Navigation: Jump to content areas:


Pro Quality. Fan Perspective.
Login-facebook
Around SBN: Ryder Hesjedal Wins Giro d'Italia

Matt Cassel's Appendectomy May Give Brodie Croyle Shot At First Win

The news that Kansas City Chiefs QB Matt Cassel underwent an appendectomy on Wednesday may mean he's not going to be available on Sunday against the San Diego Chargers. While the official injury report won't come out until Friday, I'm of the mindset that it will be backup QB Brodie Croyle getting the nod.

It's been well over a year before we realistically talked about Croyle as a starter for the Chiefs. We haven't seen him as a starting quarterback since Sept. 13, 2009 -- the first day of the 2009 regular season.

Star-divide

Cassel -- who had yet to ever play for the Chiefs in a regular season game at that point -- had suffered a knee injury a few weeks earlier putting Croyle into the game.

If you recall, Croyle had a decent game -- a good game even. They were very Cassel-esque numbers: Completed 16-of-24 passes for 177 yards, two touchdowns and no interceptions (he also took three sacks which is not Cassel-esque). The performance came in a 38-24 loss to the Baltimore Ravens, who ended the season with the league's third ranked defense.

That game was also Croyle's ninth attempt at winning an NFL game. Indeed, Croyle is win less in the NFL so this will be his shot at his first victory in the NFL. Assuming Cassel can't go this weekend, we're expecting to see Croyle's 10th attempt at victory.

So what should we expect? I have no freakin' idea.

We haven't seen Croyle in a situation like this before. He never had the kind of stability or confidence that this team has. He didn't have an offensive line that has proven they can run and pass block with the league's best. He hasn't had a receiver like Dwayne Bowe who in the last two months has been the best receiver in the NFL. He hasn't had the NFL's best running game and he hasn't been around a stable offensive system.

We know what we had with Croyle back in 2007 and 2008 (and one game in 2009). But we don't know what we have with him now, with this group.

More than likely, we'll find that out this weekend.

Comment 359 comments  |  0 recs  | 

Do you like this story?

More from Arrowhead Pride

Caption This

Apr 2012 by Joel Thorman - 81 comments

Comments

Display:

I have no faith in Brodie

I truly hope I eat my words next week

My bold prediction for 2010....The Chiefs win the AFC west with a 9-7 record, while the Chargers fall off, Denver remains the same, and Oakland, well enough said.

Offensive Player of the Year = J Charles
Rookie of the Year = Eric Berry

by DirtySouth Chiefs Fan on Dec 8, 2010 6:05 PM CST via mobile reply actions   1 recs

I don't know about Brodie

But I have a lot of faith in this coaching staff and team. I think they will pull out every hat trick they know this weekend—and have fun doing it. Coaches have bigger egos than players so this is a major challenge for them.

by nycchief on Dec 8, 2010 6:11 PM CST up reply actions  

If you recall from the ravens game Brodie PLAY ACTION FAKES WERE EXCELLENT

much better than Cassells. He sold the run with his fakes. Further we also know that Brodie has a much stronger arm than Matt, and generally is more accurate a passer, particularly the his LONG BALL (Matts weakness).

Additionally I seema to recall that Brodie put on some wieght (talk muscle here) which helped him be more durable. Remember when he was sacked the 1st time by the Ravens, wondering will he get up. He handled all his sacks fine. His only injury has been to his finger, which I seem to recall Trent Green had the same injury. Same way hitting a helmet on follow thru!!!!!!!

Our big concern her is can the line protect him. I am not worried about his mechanics.

ALSO REMEMBER. HE IS A FREE AGENT AT THE END OF THIS YEAR AND THIS GAME IS A SHOWCASE FOR OTHER TEAMS, LOOKING FOR A STARTING QB. GOT MOTIVATION

by Mark in Ga. on Dec 9, 2010 6:01 AM CST up reply actions  

0-9

You do make good points, but 0-9 is the only stat I need to look at to defend my lack of faith in Brodie. And like I said I hope I eat my words next week!

My bold prediction for 2010....The Chiefs win the AFC west with a 9-7 record, while the Chargers fall off, Denver remains the same, and Oakland, well enough said.

Offensive Player of the Year = J Charles
Rookie of the Year = Eric Berry

by DirtySouth Chiefs Fan on Dec 9, 2010 1:19 PM CST up reply actions  

I've had a loss penciled in on this one for a while.

Hopefully i’m wrong as usual. I really think this will be a motivator for the team.

by Chiefs_40 on Dec 8, 2010 6:06 PM CST reply actions  

I agree this is a house money game. We beat them already. And we’ve proven to NOT have a killer instinct yes.

by kc571 on Dec 8, 2010 7:50 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

tell that to Houston

and the Raiders

The only measure of true success in the NFL is the Vince Lombardi trophy. Anything less is a rationalization.

by sm7600 on Dec 8, 2010 10:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Although if the defense executes the game plan as well as they did last Sunday

and we start tackling again then maybe all Brodie will have to do is put together one or two drives.

"Success is never ending, failure is never final."

by GenericBrand on Dec 8, 2010 6:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Brodie never having a win makes me more confident

Fact is, you know this kid desperately wants to prove he can play, win, and survive in this league. This will be an epic stage for him to do so.

"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." -Gandhi.

by Sudden on Dec 8, 2010 6:15 PM CST up reply actions  

He did play well enough to win in Baltimore last year.

Unfortunately the defense didn’t help him out any late in that game. That might be the big difference this go around.

"Success is never ending, failure is never final."

by GenericBrand on Dec 8, 2010 6:17 PM CST up reply actions  

didn't have an offense, either

last year vs Balt we had and started LJ (forget blocking much less a running game) … we had a makeshift OLine that had just gotten new blocking schemes and a new playbook a couple of weeks earlier, along with new terminology … we had Mike Goff starting on the OLine … yeah, THAT Mike Goff

on the other side from Bowe we had Some Guy starting at WR … Bobby Engram? hell, I dunno who it was, or care … all I know is we dod NOT have the following:

Jamaal Charles (was riding the bench)
Thomas Jones
Dexter McCluster
Verran Tucker
Ryan Lilja
Casey Weigmann
Tony Moeaki
Leonard Pope

that’s just on the offensive side of the ball …

so yeah, one has to feel better about the surrounding cast of characters that Croyle has this time around … win or lose, it’ll be a whole lot prettier

Winner: 2009 Nostradamus of Arrowhead Pride Award (I'd like to thank my producer, my director, all of my wonderful fans ... )
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
Come back, Jason!
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Dec 8, 2010 6:35 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

you finally got your wish

What? Did you go to New Orleans and visit a witch doctor or something?

I love me some Shaun Smith!

by kabrink on Dec 8, 2010 6:55 PM CST up reply actions  

had some fried chicken and shook the box a little ...

dem bones, dem bones … amazing what you can do, really

and can you ever be SURE that light goes out out when you close the refridgerator door?

Winner: 2009 Nostradamus of Arrowhead Pride Award (I'd like to thank my producer, my director, all of my wonderful fans ... )
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
Come back, Jason!
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Dec 8, 2010 6:56 PM CST up reply actions  

the time I got IN my fridge

the light most definitely went out

I love me some Shaun Smith!

by kabrink on Dec 8, 2010 7:05 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm not even gonna ask what you were doing IN your fridge

… all I’ll say is you’d be wise to keep the beer closer to the FRONT in the future

Winner: 2009 Nostradamus of Arrowhead Pride Award (I'd like to thank my producer, my director, all of my wonderful fans ... )
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
Come back, Jason!
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Dec 8, 2010 7:06 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

I love me some Shaun Smith!

by kabrink on Dec 8, 2010 7:05 PM CST up reply actions  

He'll be out injured by 2 minutes into the 3rd quarter.

Go Palko, ha

The Powers Of Astute Observation Are Often Mistaken As Cynicism By Those That Do Not Posses Them -- G.B. Shaw

by Texas Chief on Dec 8, 2010 8:41 PM CST up reply actions  

hater

"The best way to convince a fool that he is wrong is to let him have his way" Josh Billings
Kansas City Chiefs - 2020 Team of the Decade

by skunk420 on Dec 9, 2010 8:38 AM CST up reply actions  

it's not like cassel set the world on fire with the same personnel

brodie had around him when he racked up his losses. also, cassel wasn’t playing nearly as well as he is now when we beat SD in week 1.

if Brodie doesn’t try to do too much and the D plays well, we can still grind out a win.

an exception to not doing too much—play-action pass on the first offensive play, deep to tucker or copper. they’ll expect a handoff or slant to bowe.

by nickpapagiorgio on Dec 8, 2010 7:59 PM CST up reply actions  

nor his experience

"The best way to convince a fool that he is wrong is to let him have his way" Josh Billings
Kansas City Chiefs - 2020 Team of the Decade

by skunk420 on Dec 9, 2010 8:39 AM CST up reply actions  

Seams to me he won a lot at Alabama, when he had a good supporting cast.

Also I learned some things about Brodie and the way he was raised. His father could have played in the NFL but instead started a boys home for orphans or something. He had a long talk with Bear Bryat before he did it. One of the Bears favorite players.

So Brodie greew up having to share his dad with others. Team player type guy. Great intestinal fortitude. DEFINATELY ONE OF THE RIGHT 53. Has never caused a problem been a team guy.

GET READY TO WATCH AND WOW

by Mark in Ga. on Dec 9, 2010 6:08 AM CST up reply actions  

They had a Dr on NFL network

and he said as long as Cassel feels ok, he doesnt see any reason why he wouldnt be able to play this weekend

by badassz1987 on Dec 8, 2010 6:08 PM CST reply actions  

he'll be out this Sunday, count on it

Winner: 2009 Nostradamus of Arrowhead Pride Award (I'd like to thank my producer, my director, all of my wonderful fans ... )
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
Come back, Jason!
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Dec 8, 2010 6:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Medical science improves all the time.

I’d be surprised if he played this Sunday, but not totally shocked.

I spilled spot remover on my dog... now he's gone.

by Tarkus on Dec 8, 2010 6:40 PM CST up reply actions  

Dave Hanner in 1954.

And back then they just cut you open with a saw and poured whiskey on the sauterized(sp) wound.

"Success is never ending, failure is never final."

by GenericBrand on Dec 8, 2010 6:42 PM CST up reply actions  

That's probably why it worked

"Sure, luck means a lot in football. Not having a good quarterback is bad luck."
-Don Shula

by Aero on Dec 8, 2010 6:49 PM CST up reply actions  

cauterized

unless you meant “to saute” as in cooking…

I might actually take a 100% Brodie over Cassel even if he’s physically capable of playing. Unless Cassel is at 90% or better, you gotta start Brodie imo.

Bask in the glory that is Kwame Harris. Poor Alex...

by JHWK on Dec 8, 2010 8:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Roethlisberger was out for a game

after his surgery, and they (the news), say even that is rare.

" That was a cajun run! Flew Bayou!" - Dexter McCluster

by shotty on Dec 8, 2010 6:51 PM CST up reply actions  

And when he came back he wasn't very effective at first.

One of the founding members of The Super Duper Matt Cassel Fanclub.
We all have the right to our own opinions, its just that mine are right.
My quest for soberiety is an ongoing struggle.

by nateforchiefs on Dec 8, 2010 6:54 PM CST up reply actions  

It was the beginning of the season...

and he was also recovering from him motorcycle accident, so I don’t think you should make too much of his slow start. He’d have likely started slow even without the surgery.

I spilled spot remover on my dog... now he's gone.

by Tarkus on Dec 8, 2010 6:57 PM CST up reply actions  

This is probably the best shot Brodie has ever had at a win.

This is the best team he has ever been a part of, but he also hasn’t played since the beginning of last year.

One of the founding members of The Super Duper Matt Cassel Fanclub.
We all have the right to our own opinions, its just that mine are right.
My quest for soberiety is an ongoing struggle.

by nateforchiefs on Dec 8, 2010 6:09 PM CST reply actions  

Steve

Exactly what I wanted to read. Thanks. Rec’d.

Founded Arrowhead Pride 7/26/2006

Facebook | Twitter | Chris Thorman (More info)

by Chris Thorman on Dec 8, 2010 8:24 PM CST up reply actions  

^^^ This

Chiefs will. But...will Cassel?

10 + wins in 2010. Chiefs SHOCK the NFL!!! Mark it down.

by Scott B. on Dec 8, 2010 9:26 PM CST up reply actions  

why not give the kid a shot

if our defense can hold and we pound the ball on the ground, he can;t do much worse than Cassel at the beginning of this season.

by bigbearomaha on Dec 8, 2010 9:40 PM CST up reply actions  

besides

chargers have been game planning for Cassel all this time.

They won’t know what to make of Brodie being out there.

by bigbearomaha on Dec 8, 2010 9:41 PM CST up reply actions  

yep

ever since yesterday

I love me some Shaun Smith!

by kabrink on Dec 8, 2010 9:57 PM CST up reply actions  

cassel expected to play

Nfl total access just reported that Cassel is expected to play sunday and a doctor just said there is no problem with him playing as long as he feels he can play. he also said that all this shit is overrated and he wont explode or start bleeding and shit and that he will be fine. The healing is all about the scars nothing inside.

by Arrowhead4Life on Dec 8, 2010 6:09 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

Every Situation is Indepentent

You really can’t go off of a doctor who doesn’t know the situation… I hope he’s right but…

by GracieKal on Dec 8, 2010 6:18 PM CST up reply actions  

That hasn't stopped dozens of people here. ;)

I spilled spot remover on my dog... now he's gone.

by Tarkus on Dec 8, 2010 6:41 PM CST up reply actions  

I dare say Cassel will be dresses but not start. Be like the 3rd quarterback

Haley isn’t going to show his hand and declare Matt out. Let the Chargers worry. But if there is one thing we have seen from this coaching staff, it is when a star is hurt they will not risk a long term injury, for just one weeks gain.

Was it Waters that dressed but did not play a couple of weeks agao. He has played much better since that week. Good rest and his body has recovered

by Mark in Ga. on Dec 9, 2010 6:16 AM CST up reply actions  

I fear to watch

yet cannot look away

Blame my wife!
Waiting until August 2011

by sir eccles on Dec 8, 2010 6:09 PM CST reply actions  

i expect to see Brodie get the start..

"We're making progress, that's the key thing." - Todd Haley

by chiefsfan62 on Dec 8, 2010 6:10 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

Smiles

Joel you must be having way to much fun with this. There is more comments flying around than on last game day lol.

by 78Chief on Dec 8, 2010 6:10 PM CST reply actions  

Are you accusing Joel of whoring for comments?!?

One of the founding members of The Super Duper Matt Cassel Fanclub.
We all have the right to our own opinions, its just that mine are right.
My quest for soberiety is an ongoing struggle.

by nateforchiefs on Dec 8, 2010 6:12 PM CST up reply actions  

No, just [man]whoring.

Don't blame me, I voted for content of character.

by paratrooper on Dec 8, 2010 7:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Very true ...

Appreciate the notion that you brought up with what he will have around him if he is the starting QB again (see what I did there lol). It will be mighty entertaining and truly a Cardiac Team in the making here.

by 78Chief on Dec 8, 2010 6:17 PM CST up reply actions  

I have a hard time blaming that game on Thigpen

Why did Miami suddenly decide to totally abandon the run when they had their 3rd string QB playing? That was one of the most insane decisions I’ve ever seen. It was like Mike Martz was suddenly running the offense.

The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing. If you can fake that, you've got it made. ~ Groucho Marx

by Big Chief on Dec 9, 2010 9:14 AM CST up reply actions  

Yes Joel,but

back in the chiefs super Bowl year Lenny the Cool was injured & Mike Livingston came in & played several weeks & won.We still went to the SB & won.Let’s hope this is a little de’ja vu.

John Soellner

by chiefs63 on Dec 9, 2010 7:09 AM CST up reply actions  

Maybe we can get that guy on a tractor in Minnesota.

He was pretty good.

"Success is never ending, failure is never final."

by GenericBrand on Dec 8, 2010 6:11 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

Faith

Got to keep the faith… but hoping Brodie does not get hurt as he tends to do so well when he step on the field…

by Frank Alvarado on Dec 8, 2010 6:12 PM CST reply actions  

Really!

Couldn’t you find a shot that was less scary?

by NJ Chiefs Fan on Dec 8, 2010 6:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Croyle doing his pushups 4TW

"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." -Gandhi.

by Sudden on Dec 8, 2010 6:20 PM CST up reply actions  

He should be the mascot for Oregon.

I spilled spot remover on my dog... now he's gone.

by Tarkus on Dec 8, 2010 6:42 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Would have preferred a pic showing Brodie tossing a TD

At least I’d feel a little better about him possibly starting :)

by Tyran on Dec 8, 2010 6:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Do those pics exist?

You might have to go back to the Alabama years haha

My bold prediction for 2010....The Chiefs win the AFC west with a 9-7 record, while the Chargers fall off, Denver remains the same, and Oakland, well enough said.

Offensive Player of the Year = J Charles
Rookie of the Year = Eric Berry

by DirtySouth Chiefs Fan on Dec 8, 2010 6:38 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I predict...

…that Brodie will do just fine.

We will not, nor will the Chargers, hear that Cassel is out until Sunday.

The team will prep for Brodie, and as they’ve done with the o-line, the tight end, the secondary… It is now “Next Man In”.

We haven’t been privy to practice rep reports… We can only assume that Brodie is a pro. That he has prepared like a pro. And that like the rest of the team, will be ready to go when called upon.

It is unfortunate that Matt is out, but I’m comfortable with Brodie.

TD

by Troydrake on Dec 8, 2010 6:13 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

Agreed

If Brodie plays? I have a hard time believing that we will win or lose because of him. We’ll either win as a team…or lose as a team.

And I’m no huge Brodie fan. But, I also think he’ll do just fine. The guy is a pro. He has game experience. And regardless of his reputation of being “Brittle Brodie”…I think he can hang in there.

Don’t give up the ship, gentlemen. Give the guy a chance.

Chiefs will. But...will Cassel?

10 + wins in 2010. Chiefs SHOCK the NFL!!! Mark it down.

by Scott B. on Dec 8, 2010 8:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Weiss can make this work.

No wories guys.

@RaiderHater86 on Twitter

by ExRoyalsFan on Dec 8, 2010 6:13 PM CST reply actions  

I can’t spell

@RaiderHater86 on Twitter

by ExRoyalsFan on Dec 8, 2010 6:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Ouch

I had an emergency appendectomy when I was 12 and I was out of commission for a few weeks. Granted I was 12 and it was a ruptured appendix, but either way if he plays on Sunday he’s one tough dude.

by Tyran on Dec 8, 2010 6:14 PM CST reply actions  

Tell Palko to prepare himself..

… Croyle won’t last the warm-ups

by NHSF on Dec 8, 2010 6:18 PM CST reply actions  

He's played in 9 games

He’s been injured in 6 of them.
Everyone scares me if Brokie is at the helm.

The Powers Of Astute Observation Are Often Mistaken As Cynicism By Those That Do Not Posses Them -- G.B. Shaw

by Texas Chief on Dec 8, 2010 8:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes, and he'll probably throw a couple picks before he breaks.

I have a feeling this won’t be pretty.

TOUCHDOWN! KAN-SAH-CITY!!!

by TheScootness on Dec 9, 2010 11:30 AM CST up reply actions  

Could have done without that

If croyle plays, needless to say, the pretty decent run defense of the charges will now key on the run against us. We can’t realistically expect croyle to play well enough to win this game for us. Worse news I’ve heard all week, by far

"That was a good job. It wasn't pretty and we made it tougher than it had to be but that's alright. That's alright this time." - Todd Haley
Win pretty, win ugly, win easy, win tough, it doesn't matter

by FalconMF27 on Dec 8, 2010 6:19 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

Disagree

Chargers D is going to key against our run game no matter who starts for us. I think Brodie will do fine.

by DLChiefs on Dec 8, 2010 7:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Could have done without that

If croyle plays, needless to say, the pretty decent run defense of the charges will now key on the run against us. We can’t realistically expect croyle to play well enough to win this game for us. Worse news I’ve heard all week, by far

"That was a good job. It wasn't pretty and we made it tougher than it had to be but that's alright. That's alright this time." - Todd Haley
Win pretty, win ugly, win easy, win tough, it doesn't matter

by FalconMF27 on Dec 8, 2010 6:19 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

Could have done without that

If croyle plays, needless to say, the pretty decent run defense of the charges will now key on the run against us. We can’t realistically expect croyle to play well enough to win this game for us. Worse news I’ve heard all week, by far

"That was a good job. It wasn't pretty and we made it tougher than it had to be but that's alright. That's alright this time." - Todd Haley
Win pretty, win ugly, win easy, win tough, it doesn't matter

by FalconMF27 on Dec 8, 2010 6:19 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

Well

Well hopefully we learn a lot either way not that it will change many peoples opinion about our qb’s. The timing of this stinks because Matty has been playing well and if he misses any more than just this week only going to have a 2 games to make sure everything is running smoothly if we make playoffs.

by karkz86 on Dec 8, 2010 6:24 PM CST reply actions  

NFL.com Video

Here’s the video of the NFL Network interview with a doctor about when Cassel might be back.

by NJ Chiefs Fan on Dec 8, 2010 6:26 PM CST reply actions   2 recs

Interesting video.

That doctor says there’s really no danger, and he doesn’t put any restrictions on his own patients after that type of surgery. He basically said pain is the only limitation.

I spilled spot remover on my dog... now he's gone.

by Tarkus on Dec 8, 2010 7:10 PM CST up reply actions  

hey, it's late, aren't you supposed to be sleeping or getting stuff for tormorrow's post?

I swear I read that as “interview with a witch doctor” at first

I blame kabrink

Winner: 2009 Nostradamus of Arrowhead Pride Award (I'd like to thank my producer, my director, all of my wonderful fans ... )
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
Come back, Jason!
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Dec 8, 2010 7:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Cassel has grown on me...

But ive been waiting to see what Croyle could do with THIS offense…it also give the Chiefsa chance to showcase Croyle for trades…there will be a lot of teams looking for a QB next yr……may be able to trade him for something worthwhile…many consider Croyle as one of the best back up in the NFL….

Playoffs are a REAL possibility in 2010...just need few tweeks here and there.

by KCinAZ on Dec 8, 2010 6:26 PM CST reply actions  

Just curious....

But who are those “many” that consider croyle the best backup? Hes done very little with the opportunities he’s had, I can’t see what would make him the “best” compared to guys like Kerry Collins, Kevin Kolb, and even Bruce Gradkowski.

"That was a good job. It wasn't pretty and we made it tougher than it had to be but that's alright. That's alright this time." - Todd Haley
Win pretty, win ugly, win easy, win tough, it doesn't matter

by FalconMF27 on Dec 8, 2010 6:31 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I said...ONE OF the best

Croyle has great tools….the only knock on him is he is fragile..I, for one, attribute a lot of those injuries to the shit O Line he played behind….Ive heard the guys on NFL network call him one of the better back ups in the league….he has just played on terrible teams….that is why I said I would like to see him with THIS offense….also, Todd Haley said last yr in camp, Brodie was the best QB he had in camp…

Playoffs are a REAL possibility in 2010...just need few tweeks here and there.

by KCinAZ on Dec 8, 2010 6:36 PM CST up reply actions  

He was known

for taking 11 sacks from Auburn in one game. They also weren’t hand tackles or anything, they were solid hits from 7 different players…all in one game.

by Jawookie on Dec 8, 2010 8:36 PM CST up reply actions  

You cant take the homer out of them...

some of these folks believe that Brodie has this massive pile of talent, that’s just been hiding behind horrible offensive lines since the guy was in highschool.

There;‘s never been any evidence of it, but they go on believing it anyway. But you can’t burst their bubble with a howitzer.

The Powers Of Astute Observation Are Often Mistaken As Cynicism By Those That Do Not Posses Them -- G.B. Shaw

by Texas Chief on Dec 8, 2010 8:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes.

You can’t trade a free agent.

I spilled spot remover on my dog... now he's gone.

by Tarkus on Dec 8, 2010 6:43 PM CST up reply actions  

NOW you tell us!

Winner: 2009 Nostradamus of Arrowhead Pride Award (I'd like to thank my producer, my director, all of my wonderful fans ... )
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
Come back, Jason!
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Dec 8, 2010 6:44 PM CST up reply actions  

btw, Tark ... love the new sig line

that’s Wright on!

Winner: 2009 Nostradamus of Arrowhead Pride Award (I'd like to thank my producer, my director, all of my wonderful fans ... )
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
Come back, Jason!
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Dec 8, 2010 6:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Thanks...

But my last one had the Wright stuff, too.

I spilled spot remover on my dog... now he's gone.

by Tarkus on Dec 8, 2010 6:47 PM CST up reply actions  

ahhh...my bad

i was think they just resigned him prior to this season….but i guess that was just his tender huh?

Playoffs are a REAL possibility in 2010...just need few tweeks here and there.

by KCinAZ on Dec 8, 2010 6:47 PM CST up reply actions  

*thinking*

Playoffs are a REAL possibility in 2010...just need few tweeks here and there.

by KCinAZ on Dec 8, 2010 6:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah.

I spilled spot remover on my dog... now he's gone.

by Tarkus on Dec 8, 2010 6:48 PM CST up reply actions  

ive been curious to see what croyle can do as well

but this is a suuuuuppppper risky time to be toying with a back up lol

by dt4ever on Dec 8, 2010 7:42 PM CST up reply actions  

I think we're all missing the bigger picture.

Cassel’s 27 straight starts might be broken!

"Sure, luck means a lot in football. Not having a good quarterback is bad luck."
-Don Shula

by Aero on Dec 8, 2010 6:28 PM CST reply actions  

But now he has to start all over ;)

"Sure, luck means a lot in football. Not having a good quarterback is bad luck."
-Don Shula

by Aero on Dec 8, 2010 6:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Cassel's surgeon said that Matt should be able to play in a week.

He said that IF he has no pain, no clotting, etc. he will release him from the hospital. I think it’s pretty much going to be Brodie starting at the dolts.

"Yeah, let's just keep matriculatin' the ball down the field, boys! ..." - Hank Stram

"That's what he told you? I tell my wife I take the garbage out. Sometimes I don't." - Todd Haley

"If you don't stand for anything, then you'll fall for everything." - Peter Marshall (1947)

You can buy Arrowhead Pride and our favorite teams related items here
Arrowhead Pride Shirts and Blind Mule Designs

by oldchiefsfan on Dec 8, 2010 6:29 PM CST reply actions  

Thanks OCF

spy extradonaire

Just try to STOP US

by Steve_Chiefs on Dec 8, 2010 8:08 PM CST up reply actions  

At least Cassel waited until we got our 2 game lead back!!!

So a loss hurts, but not the end of the world

Playoffs are a REAL possibility in 2010...just need few tweeks here and there.

by KCinAZ on Dec 8, 2010 6:31 PM CST reply actions  

Brodie will be ok

He’s not 206 as stated on the roster I read somewhere he’s around 218. Haley showed alot of interest in Brodie at the end of last season stating he was part of the CHIEFS core. If the strenght and conditioning coach has pumped him up a bit it might be interesting. He has a o-line, running game, receivers and a defense he didnt have before Go CHIEFS GO BRODIE

by Starick 58 on Dec 8, 2010 6:36 PM CST reply actions  

We'll see

I’m not trying to be negative, but let’s look at this objectively: croyle had bowe AND tony g. when he was tabbed to be our starter in 2008. Tony g. was light years better than any other wr. we have opposite bowe right now. And how many times has Cassel avoided sacks from throwing the ball away; not saying our o-line isn’t improved, but it still gives up some qb pressures. I don’t expect croyle to handle it as well as Cassel has this season, considering his lack of game experience the last two years. Defense is playing well, but not many have shut down rivers this year, including us in a monsoon. And like I said above, the SD defense will commit to stopping the run, making brodie beat them. Overall, not a good setup for brokie unfortunately.

"That was a good job. It wasn't pretty and we made it tougher than it had to be but that's alright. That's alright this time." - Todd Haley
Win pretty, win ugly, win easy, win tough, it doesn't matter

by FalconMF27 on Dec 8, 2010 6:54 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Croyle refresher course

Want to see him in action? Go to my Facebook page (Dave Keeler) then to profile, check out “Red Tribe Cinema”, there are a couple of clips of Croyle in action.

by Special K on Dec 8, 2010 11:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Cassel is a tough guy but really...

….expect to see Croyle. I am sure that this Coaching Staff will have a plan that covers all contingencies. If Croyle plays,Croyle has had more time to grow and learn since last start even though he has had no game reps. Plus he has so many more weapons and a much more coheisive offense that can man up around him.

 If Cassel is available, so much the better. Don’t forget the D is now better than when Croyle last played as well. A 3 and out will not mean we won’t see ball again till next quarter or 7 points. Which ever comes first.

"You talkin' to me? You TALKIN' to me ?" - Travis Bickle

by CatChief on Dec 8, 2010 6:37 PM CST reply actions  

I'm pretty sure that this is the best thing that could happen for this team right now.

I’m not really sure why, but I think I will now go consult Mr. Daniels. Jack might be able to make me understand why this is such a fortuitous turn of events.

Homers vs Haters... Will there ever be a winner?

by Idahochief on Dec 8, 2010 6:38 PM CST reply actions  

hater!

Negative Nancy!

Winner: 2009 Nostradamus of Arrowhead Pride Award (I'd like to thank my producer, my director, all of my wonderful fans ... )
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
Come back, Jason!
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Dec 8, 2010 6:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Thats Mr. Nancy to you.

Homers vs Haters... Will there ever be a winner?

by Idahochief on Dec 8, 2010 6:40 PM CST up reply actions  

aye, Sir!

Winner: 2009 Nostradamus of Arrowhead Pride Award (I'd like to thank my producer, my director, all of my wonderful fans ... )
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
Come back, Jason!
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Dec 8, 2010 6:40 PM CST up reply actions  

The Chiefs will get better overcoming adversity

like the Super Bowl winning Chiefs did once

Just try to STOP US

by Steve_Chiefs on Dec 8, 2010 8:12 PM CST up reply actions  

and remember when Len Dawson was hurt that year

Mike Livingston stepped in for what … 4 games? 8 games? and did very well indeed …

Winner: 2009 Nostradamus of Arrowhead Pride Award (I'd like to thank my producer, my director, all of my wonderful fans ... )
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
Come back, Jason!
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Dec 8, 2010 8:13 PM CST up reply actions  

We really need you Jamaal !

JC has to take over the game sunday eve…..thats all there is to it….no offense to Brodie,but it will be very hard for him to win it…we just cant have him lose it….Jamaal has to take the game over…a few passes along the way and decent defense we should be fine!!

by dandychief on Dec 8, 2010 6:38 PM CST reply actions  

How long has Cassel known he needed this?

Before I go all conspiracy theory I’d like to know if he’s known about this for a while.

by BJ Kissel on Dec 8, 2010 6:39 PM CST reply actions  

friend of mine told me last night he kid needed an emergency appendectomy the day before .... came outta the blue

you never know about some things

Winner: 2009 Nostradamus of Arrowhead Pride Award (I'd like to thank my producer, my director, all of my wonderful fans ... )
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
Come back, Jason!
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Dec 8, 2010 6:40 PM CST up reply actions  

alright

there goes all these theories i just made up :)

by BJ Kissel on Dec 8, 2010 6:44 PM CST up reply actions  

send them on to the Warren Commission anyway .... might still find someone on the Grassy Knoll

Winner: 2009 Nostradamus of Arrowhead Pride Award (I'd like to thank my producer, my director, all of my wonderful fans ... )
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
Come back, Jason!
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Dec 8, 2010 6:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Nah...

send them to Jessie “The Body” Ventura. He’ll blow the lid on this conspiracy theory…

2010 Chiefs are on the rise. This is the most excited I've been since 'Nam...

by kcchiefsfan72 on Dec 8, 2010 7:03 PM CST up reply actions  

He ain't got time to bleed.

I spilled spot remover on my dog... now he's gone.

by Tarkus on Dec 8, 2010 7:05 PM CST up reply actions  

You are probably right about this.

They could have performed the surgery in the locker room last Sunday. He will probably be practicing at full speed by tomorrow.

Homers vs Haters... Will there ever be a winner?

by Idahochief on Dec 8, 2010 6:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Aside from playing well

We need to get lucky. Both with Cassel’s injury and whatever we have to do without him.

"Catch that, Eckstein!" - Duane Kuiper

by DrDC on Dec 8, 2010 6:39 PM CST reply actions  

something tells me

that this game is going to come down to special teams and defense. Lets hope both units can get some points for us.

by Timo_112 on Dec 8, 2010 6:39 PM CST reply actions  

ummmmmmmmmmmm

off topic, disallowed :-)

Winner: 2009 Nostradamus of Arrowhead Pride Award (I'd like to thank my producer, my director, all of my wonderful fans ... )
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
Come back, Jason!
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Dec 8, 2010 6:43 PM CST up reply actions  

That wont happen,SD will score…its just a matter of how much!!

by dandychief on Dec 8, 2010 6:42 PM CST reply actions  

hate to say it, but I agree with ya

Winner: 2009 Nostradamus of Arrowhead Pride Award (I'd like to thank my producer, my director, all of my wonderful fans ... )
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
Come back, Jason!
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Dec 8, 2010 6:43 PM CST up reply actions  

i think we will have to outsore them…they are too good….we can do it…no doubt….this is when they all have to man-up….do it…this is what they want….so…lets do it!!

by dandychief on Dec 8, 2010 6:44 PM CST reply actions  

we have an Einstein amongst us!
we will have to outsore them

Winner: 2009 Nostradamus of Arrowhead Pride Award (I'd like to thank my producer, my director, all of my wonderful fans ... )
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
Come back, Jason!
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Dec 8, 2010 6:46 PM CST up reply actions  

lol…that was terrible wasn;t it?/….i think I meant “outscore”….looking for a high scoring game…they are definitely beatable!

by dandychief on Dec 8, 2010 6:50 PM CST up reply actions  

As Jeff Gordon once said over the radio....

If we can finish the race in first place, we can win!

by Chiefs_40 on Dec 8, 2010 6:46 PM CST reply actions  

Wondering about the game day threads...

Will they still be filled with Cassel sucks! comments?

I spilled spot remover on my dog... now he's gone.

by Tarkus on Dec 8, 2010 6:46 PM CST reply actions  

only if Croyle passes for 540 yds, 8 TDs, 0 INTs, 0 Sacks

Winner: 2009 Nostradamus of Arrowhead Pride Award (I'd like to thank my producer, my director, all of my wonderful fans ... )
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
Come back, Jason!
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Dec 8, 2010 6:47 PM CST up reply actions  

If we lose yes, if we win yes

In either scenario Cassel obviously didn’t want to help the team win.

"Catch that, Eckstein!" - Duane Kuiper

by DrDC on Dec 8, 2010 6:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Can flip that also to that he didn’t blow the game

by karkz86 on Dec 8, 2010 6:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes

But that would be reasonable

"Catch that, Eckstein!" - Duane Kuiper

by DrDC on Dec 8, 2010 6:50 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm not sure how much out game plan actually changes

It’s not like we had Cassel airing it out all the time. It’ll still be short-intermediate relatively simple passes once we establish the run. They might try and stack the box so Dex in the slot with some quick throws can eliminate that fairly quickly.

I put as much on the rest of the skill positions to raise their game as much as I do having Croyle play his best. As long as he doesn’t turn it over we should be in this game.

by BJ Kissel on Dec 8, 2010 6:47 PM CST reply actions  

Heres my opinion..

I think that this happening is at a very bad time no doubt. We win, we are in playoffs, we lose then comes the nasty tie potentially. We are not going to risk further injury to Cassel, just not going to happen. Croyle will be starting this Sunday. The Dolts will be preparing to stuff our run and if they do that then they will be after the QB (Brodie). If I am a believer that Brodie is a decent back up QB which I think he is ( hell of an arm) then if I were the Charlie.. I would go to that game passing first! Set the tone a bit that we aren’t afraid to pass with him, then run. Just have an awful feeling that the dolts are going to do everything to stop the run first. Just an opinion. I do agree with what someone above said as well.. time to bring the tricks out a bit.. Maybe have MCc pass a ball even. Something to throw at their defense.

Scary time. I had mine removed and yes people heal differently and the procedures are much better then back in the day. Very small incisions (3 I had) with the biggest one at 6. Just above your junk, one in about the middle between your belly button/right hip and one very small one actually in the belly button. Really not a bad deal unless it erupted, then we have issues for sure.

Anyways, Have faith I suppose. I will have my beer and food and nothing but CHIEFS in front of me. Better record than I had anticipated originally, so GO CHIEFS!!!!!!!

by SinyGuy on Dec 8, 2010 6:48 PM CST reply actions  

I REMEMBER THE COMMENTATORS IN THE RAVENS GAME TELLING HOW GOOE BRODIE SOLD HIS PLAY FAKES

If this is true and with his arm and accuraccy, could be a big day. Especially if the bolts are looking to stop the run

by Mark in Ga. on Dec 9, 2010 6:39 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, hopefully Succop can get a touchback.

I spilled spot remover on my dog... now he's gone.

by Tarkus on Dec 8, 2010 6:50 PM CST up reply actions  

so it's true ...

… you’re afraid of widths

Winner: 2009 Nostradamus of Arrowhead Pride Award (I'd like to thank my producer, my director, all of my wonderful fans ... )
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
Come back, Jason!
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Dec 8, 2010 6:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes, unlike those who are afraid of heights.

I spilled spot remover on my dog... now he's gone.

by Tarkus on Dec 8, 2010 6:59 PM CST up reply actions  

why not?

waste of a play …. going deep would mean someone getting open deep …. like that’s gonna happen? I don’t THINK so … other than Dex we got no speed

I think Weis calls the same game he would if Cassel was in

Winner: 2009 Nostradamus of Arrowhead Pride Award (I'd like to thank my producer, my director, all of my wonderful fans ... )
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
Come back, Jason!
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Dec 8, 2010 6:51 PM CST up reply actions  

agree the game plan will stay in place reguardless.

"Yeah, let's just keep matriculatin' the ball down the field, boys! ..." - Hank Stram

"That's what he told you? I tell my wife I take the garbage out. Sometimes I don't." - Todd Haley

"If you don't stand for anything, then you'll fall for everything." - Peter Marshall (1947)

You can buy Arrowhead Pride and our favorite teams related items here
Arrowhead Pride Shirts and Blind Mule Designs

by oldchiefsfan on Dec 8, 2010 6:58 PM CST up reply actions  

every good team goes deep every so often

Not going to win being ultra conservative. I’m just saying to do it out of the gate.

by VermeilLikesToCry on Dec 8, 2010 7:03 PM CST up reply actions  

we’ve already surpassed all the "analyst predictions this year (even my own) as far as what the CHIEFS would do this season. Doubt anyone in the chat room expected this so GO CHIEFS GO BRODIE

by Starick 58 on Dec 8, 2010 6:56 PM CST reply actions  

Honestly I thought they would just go 8-8 this year.

"Yeah, let's just keep matriculatin' the ball down the field, boys! ..." - Hank Stram

"That's what he told you? I tell my wife I take the garbage out. Sometimes I don't." - Todd Haley

"If you don't stand for anything, then you'll fall for everything." - Peter Marshall (1947)

You can buy Arrowhead Pride and our favorite teams related items here
Arrowhead Pride Shirts and Blind Mule Designs

by oldchiefsfan on Dec 8, 2010 6:57 PM CST up reply actions  

me too

and we’ll do at LEAST that well

ok, we’ll win another couple, I believe

Winner: 2009 Nostradamus of Arrowhead Pride Award (I'd like to thank my producer, my director, all of my wonderful fans ... )
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
Come back, Jason!
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Dec 8, 2010 6:58 PM CST up reply actions  

Me three. I would have been happy with 8. But I guess anyone’s window is small. Have to take it while you can.

by kc571 on Dec 8, 2010 8:47 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Me three. I would have been happy with 8. But I guess anyone’s window is small. Have to take it while you can.

by kc571 on Dec 8, 2010 8:48 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

This is the advantage of having a quarterback

who is as good as or nearly as good as the starter. Brodie can win with what he has around him now. As long as Brodie doesn;t get hurt, we will be just fine. I think Brodie can easily engineer a win against the Chargers.

"The Hammer"

by G.L. on Dec 8, 2010 6:56 PM CST reply actions  

yup, he CAN

question is, WILL he?

more to the point: how many do the Chargers score on us? if Rivers and Gates and Co are in tune, could be a long day for the Defense

Winner: 2009 Nostradamus of Arrowhead Pride Award (I'd like to thank my producer, my director, all of my wonderful fans ... )
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
Come back, Jason!
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Dec 8, 2010 6:58 PM CST up reply actions  

and what would lead either one of you believe that Brokie is as, or nearly as good as the starter

Obviously nothing that has every happened in teh real world of NFL football.

The Powers Of Astute Observation Are Often Mistaken As Cynicism By Those That Do Not Posses Them -- G.B. Shaw

by Texas Chief on Dec 8, 2010 9:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Then I guess Pioli and Haley are idiots for keeping him as a back-up, huh?

Chiefs will. But...will Cassel?

10 + wins in 2010. Chiefs SHOCK the NFL!!! Mark it down.

by Scott B. on Dec 8, 2010 9:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Um, no

They didn’t have anyone better.
Same reason they resigned Mike to safety.
Same reason Palko is still around.

The Powers Of Astute Observation Are Often Mistaken As Cynicism By Those That Do Not Posses Them -- G.B. Shaw

by Texas Chief on Dec 8, 2010 9:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Another advantage he has is very little pressure.

Had the Chargers not lost to the Raiders this would’ve been a must win. Although it’s still an important game it isn’t a must win for us and we have a little bit of room for error.

"Success is never ending, failure is never final."

by GenericBrand on Dec 8, 2010 7:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Brodie just needs to step in the huddle and tell Bowe, Moeaki, Tucker, Mccluster and Charles GO LONG lol

by Starick 58 on Dec 8, 2010 7:01 PM CST reply actions  

As in "I'll air it out,

you run under it."?

"The Hammer"

by G.L. on Dec 9, 2010 10:30 AM CST up reply actions  

I had the same surgery Cassel had

but I was 10 years old. I’m sure the pain tolerance is a lot different between a little kid and professional athlete. That being said, it hurt like hell the first couple of days where I could barely move. After that I didn’t have too many problems getting around.

Second, I like Croyle’s arm and release of the ball. He hasn’t played in a game for a very long time. I can see a ton of blitzes and the Chargers stacking the box to prevent the run. They will get to Croyle and make him beat them.

Jamaal Charles...Enough said.

Picks
101-62

by Chiefsfan85 on Dec 8, 2010 7:02 PM CST reply actions  

apendectomy

the biggest issue for cassel is the amount of pain he’s going to be in. that’s it. a lot of times there’s not even any incision or staples or anything….if it’s laproscopic that is.

by TCHDWN on Dec 8, 2010 7:03 PM CST reply actions  

I would, but I can't spell it.

I spilled spot remover on my dog... now he's gone.

by Tarkus on Dec 8, 2010 7:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Neither can Bajah :)

Appendectomy.

"Success is never ending, failure is never final."

by GenericBrand on Dec 8, 2010 7:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Ha!

I spilled spot remover on my dog... now he's gone.

by Tarkus on Dec 8, 2010 7:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Never thought I'd be so nervous that Cassel might actually NOT play

…as opposed to last year when I was ‘meh’ about him. But now I am hoping and praying and keeping my fingers crossed that Cassel will play. Yeah, like everyone else is saying, it’s just a matter of his pain threshold and if Haley even wants to let him go. Cassel is on a great streak and the team is clicking. I like Brodie and I think can be a good QB but for the life of me, I want to keep doing what’s working and that is Cassel back there, with HIS team, doing work. The dude has grown on me. Then again, I can totally see the team wanting to win badly for their quarterback if he does have to stand on the sidelines. I just want to WIN. Get better Matt!

by rhinosaurus92 on Dec 8, 2010 7:08 PM CST reply actions  

Defense Needs To Step It Up A Notch...

to quote Karl Mecklenburg, “Defensively, I think it’s important for us to tackle.” So basically, tackle and we win the game.

2010 Chiefs are on the rise. This is the most excited I've been since 'Nam...

by kcchiefsfan72 on Dec 8, 2010 7:09 PM CST reply actions  

THAT, Sir, is the quote of the day

or the year

Winner: 2009 Nostradamus of Arrowhead Pride Award (I'd like to thank my producer, my director, all of my wonderful fans ... )
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
Come back, Jason!
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Dec 8, 2010 7:10 PM CST up reply actions  

That would be something we didn't do last week.

I spilled spot remover on my dog... now he's gone.

by Tarkus on Dec 8, 2010 7:12 PM CST up reply actions  

so you're saying tackling IS important?

wow, what a novel concept

Winner: 2009 Nostradamus of Arrowhead Pride Award (I'd like to thank my producer, my director, all of my wonderful fans ... )
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
Come back, Jason!
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Dec 8, 2010 7:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Wasn't important against Denver, apparently.

I spilled spot remover on my dog... now he's gone.

by Tarkus on Dec 8, 2010 7:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Was cold

I think…. yes I know it is warm in San Diego :)

Just try to STOP US

by Steve_Chiefs on Dec 8, 2010 8:21 PM CST up reply actions  

hope the receivers remember to pad up their gloves for when Brodie has to thread one

by Starick 58 on Dec 8, 2010 7:11 PM CST reply actions  

So if he does play,

he likely won’t be 100%. So what do we take? Croyle at 100% but unknown? Cassel at 75%….50%…..

"What we need is......more cowbell." - C. Walken

by ChiefMedic on Dec 8, 2010 7:12 PM CST reply actions  

Cassel at 76.89%

I spilled spot remover on my dog... now he's gone.

by Tarkus on Dec 8, 2010 7:13 PM CST up reply actions  

accept nothing less than 82.47%

Winner: 2009 Nostradamus of Arrowhead Pride Award (I'd like to thank my producer, my director, all of my wonderful fans ... )
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
Come back, Jason!
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Dec 8, 2010 7:14 PM CST up reply actions  

I was hoping

to the thousandth position but okay.

"What we need is......more cowbell." - C. Walken

by ChiefMedic on Dec 8, 2010 7:16 PM CST up reply actions  

as Marie Antoinette didn't say ...

Let Them Eat Pi

Winner: 2009 Nostradamus of Arrowhead Pride Award (I'd like to thank my producer, my director, all of my wonderful fans ... )
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
Come back, Jason!
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Dec 8, 2010 7:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Wasn't that Steven Tyler?

"What we need is......more cowbell." - C. Walken

by ChiefMedic on Dec 8, 2010 7:18 PM CST up reply actions  

I thought it was Freddie Mercury.

But I guess that was cake.

I spilled spot remover on my dog... now he's gone.

by Tarkus on Dec 8, 2010 7:19 PM CST up reply actions  

disagree

Winner: 2009 Nostradamus of Arrowhead Pride Award (I'd like to thank my producer, my director, all of my wonderful fans ... )
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
Come back, Jason!
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Dec 8, 2010 7:19 PM CST up reply actions  

me too cause Cassel at 11.5% > Croyle

The Powers Of Astute Observation Are Often Mistaken As Cynicism By Those That Do Not Posses Them -- G.B. Shaw

by Texas Chief on Dec 8, 2010 9:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Bigger question....

do they tab Palko as number 2 or leave Cassel off?

by BJ Kissel on Dec 8, 2010 7:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Under the category of "Be Careful..."

Early in the season, before Cassel apparently came of age as a QB, I posited the notion that I’d like to see Croyle get a shot at starting a couple of games. Reminds me of the old adage, “Be careful what you wish for”. If Haley/Weiss don’t go totally conservative, i think Croyle can be effective. If we have a game plan similar to last week’s, we’re in for some serious hurt.

by Special K on Dec 8, 2010 7:13 PM CST reply actions  

doubt it

they still need to stop our running game … and our WRs are still slow

Winner: 2009 Nostradamus of Arrowhead Pride Award (I'd like to thank my producer, my director, all of my wonderful fans ... )
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
Come back, Jason!
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Dec 8, 2010 7:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Probably

they won’t know how to gameplan against Croyle, especially in this offense. They’ll probably stack the box and blitz the ish out of him, maybe some misdirection. But it’ll probably be the same plan for Cassel.

by ChiefWarPaint on Dec 8, 2010 7:17 PM CST up reply actions  

that'd be dumb ... Croyle (I think) would be better at reading and reacting and calling audibles for short dumps and or fast slants than Cassel

if they’re smart they play it “straight up”

Winner: 2009 Nostradamus of Arrowhead Pride Award (I'd like to thank my producer, my director, all of my wonderful fans ... )
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
Come back, Jason!
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Dec 8, 2010 7:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Why, because of all that game experience he has?

I spilled spot remover on my dog... now he's gone.

by Tarkus on Dec 8, 2010 7:20 PM CST up reply actions  

plenty of practice time, and as much game film as Cassel

Winner: 2009 Nostradamus of Arrowhead Pride Award (I'd like to thank my producer, my director, all of my wonderful fans ... )
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
Come back, Jason!
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Dec 8, 2010 7:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah practice and Film room

are definitely not the same as actual game time experience.

by ChiefWarPaint on Dec 8, 2010 7:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Croyle is rusty

he didn’t even play in the preseason, who knows how good he is at reading and reacting and calling audibles. I think that’s how they start to “shake him up” a bit, but they’ll probably pull back if it isn’t working

by ChiefWarPaint on Dec 8, 2010 7:21 PM CST up reply actions  

I doubt it.

The Chiefs might run a little more, but I think the basic gameplan will be roughly the same. Maybe they might look at some Croyle film to spot some tendencies, but I wouldn’t think they’d spend a lot of time doing so.

I spilled spot remover on my dog... now he's gone.

by Tarkus on Dec 8, 2010 7:17 PM CST up reply actions  

they've been doing about a 50/50 mix ... run and pass almost even, good balance

and I hope they continue to do that … run Jamaal, throw, run TJ, toss to Dex, run TJ, toss to Bowe, run Jamaal, toss to Moeaki … mix it up

Winner: 2009 Nostradamus of Arrowhead Pride Award (I'd like to thank my producer, my director, all of my wonderful fans ... )
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
Come back, Jason!
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Dec 8, 2010 7:35 PM CST up reply actions  

I think the run ratio will go up.

It took a long time for them to be comfortable enough with Cassel to hand him the keys, so to speak. I don’t think they’ll trust Croyle just as much, right out of the gate.

I spilled spot remover on my dog... now he's gone.

by Tarkus on Dec 8, 2010 7:38 PM CST up reply actions  

find out in a few days

Winner: 2009 Nostradamus of Arrowhead Pride Award (I'd like to thank my producer, my director, all of my wonderful fans ... )
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
Come back, Jason!
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Dec 8, 2010 7:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Maybe. :)

I spilled spot remover on my dog... now he's gone.

by Tarkus on Dec 8, 2010 7:40 PM CST up reply actions  

Croyle Bandwagoners Unite!

Nothing can stop Croyle now…except for maybe a knockdown

Jamaal Charles...Enough said.

Picks
101-62

by Chiefsfan85 on Dec 8, 2010 7:20 PM CST reply actions  

Lol...and I'm not lying.

I actually LOL’d.

Arrowhead Stadium = Football Heaven

Not everything is Matt Cassel's fault. I promise.

by GetRight on Dec 8, 2010 7:34 PM CST up reply actions  

well

I’ve wanted to stay with Cassel the whole season to see what he can do, but now that he won’t be 100% I am all in on Brodie.

I also think the Chiefs can win with Brodie. It’s situations like this that cause teams to step up their game and play lights out.

I predict Brodie’s first NFL win.

by fongKC on Dec 8, 2010 7:21 PM CST reply actions  

I'd love to agree, but ...

the Chargers are scary … I’ve been looking at this as a (probable) loss all along, regardless of our QB

Winner: 2009 Nostradamus of Arrowhead Pride Award (I'd like to thank my producer, my director, all of my wonderful fans ... )
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
Come back, Jason!
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Dec 8, 2010 7:29 PM CST up reply actions  

just wish is was a home game with not as much on the line for both teams

by Starick 58 on Dec 8, 2010 7:23 PM CST reply actions  

Disagree

I think it’s the best test this season for our guys. Let’s see what they’re made of. I’m sick of all the pundits who say the Chiefs are more pretenders than contenders.

"What we need is......more cowbell." - C. Walken

by ChiefMedic on Dec 8, 2010 7:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Haley et al theory

is that we should be able to plug the next guy in line into any position and not change what we are doing or the results. We will see.

I love me some Shaun Smith!

by kabrink on Dec 8, 2010 7:29 PM CST reply actions  

precisely

we can lose (or win) with Croyle just like we could with Cassel

… Palko, however, would be a totally different thing (and that would be REALLY getting ugly)

Winner: 2009 Nostradamus of Arrowhead Pride Award (I'd like to thank my producer, my director, all of my wonderful fans ... )
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
Come back, Jason!
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Dec 8, 2010 7:30 PM CST up reply actions  

yeah

I’m not sure why we still have Palko at all. I know we need 3 bodies but it seems like we could have found someone more promising than him.

I love me some Shaun Smith!

by kabrink on Dec 8, 2010 7:34 PM CST up reply actions  

one would think, huh

Winner: 2009 Nostradamus of Arrowhead Pride Award (I'd like to thank my producer, my director, all of my wonderful fans ... )
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
Come back, Jason!
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Dec 8, 2010 7:35 PM CST up reply actions  

I actually hoped he'd stick around.

Not because of who he is, but who he’s not.

I spilled spot remover on my dog... now he's gone.

by Tarkus on Dec 8, 2010 7:39 PM CST up reply actions  

namely: Tyler palko ;-)

Winner: 2009 Nostradamus of Arrowhead Pride Award (I'd like to thank my producer, my director, all of my wonderful fans ... )
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
Come back, Jason!
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Dec 8, 2010 7:40 PM CST up reply actions  

+2

I spilled spot remover on my dog... now he's gone.

by Tarkus on Dec 8, 2010 7:41 PM CST up reply actions  

I think most of us would agree

that if something happened to Brodie, we’d be better off just running the wildcat the rest of the game. Where’s Mark Bradley when you need him?

by rhinosaurus92 on Dec 8, 2010 7:36 PM CST up reply actions  

if something happened to Brodie they'd be best running a Fullhouse T/Veer

Dex, TJ and Jamaal in the backfield … then run the ball, every single play

hey, it worked for Stram

Winner: 2009 Nostradamus of Arrowhead Pride Award (I'd like to thank my producer, my director, all of my wonderful fans ... )
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
Come back, Jason!
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Dec 8, 2010 7:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Bring back Marv Levy to install the Wing T.

I spilled spot remover on my dog... now he's gone.

by Tarkus on Dec 8, 2010 7:40 PM CST up reply actions  

I loved that man

Winner: 2009 Nostradamus of Arrowhead Pride Award (I'd like to thank my producer, my director, all of my wonderful fans ... )
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
Come back, Jason!
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Dec 8, 2010 7:40 PM CST up reply actions  

Palko has shown just as much NFL talent as Brokie has

He has the same number of wins.
And a better reputation of health.

The Powers Of Astute Observation Are Often Mistaken As Cynicism By Those That Do Not Posses Them -- G.B. Shaw

by Texas Chief on Dec 8, 2010 9:09 PM CST up reply actions  

In that case, let's suit up Humpty Dumpty

at least we’ll have all the kings horses and all the kings men to help put him back together again.

by Chief Willie Wildcat on Dec 8, 2010 7:37 PM CST up reply actions  

At least everybody will probably be back

and at full health. All of our starters except for Cassel anyways, that’s at least better then nothing.

by ChiefWarPaint on Dec 8, 2010 7:40 PM CST reply actions  

I've learned not to take any of our DBs for granted.

I spilled spot remover on my dog... now he's gone.

by Tarkus on Dec 8, 2010 7:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Nope

but they’ll all be back, and in good health most likely. Only one that might be questionable is Lewis but he almost played last week, so he should be ready to tear it up this week. And with Flowers back at full speed, we should be good in the back.

That’s why I really liked our chances this week until this appendectomy, but oh well I’m worried but not as worried as others might be. I think we’ll be alright.

by ChiefWarPaint on Dec 8, 2010 7:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Flowers had to be carried off the field.

I know he said it was only cramps, but you never know… Hamstrings can linger.

I spilled spot remover on my dog... now he's gone.

by Tarkus on Dec 8, 2010 7:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Nick Wright just twittered

Flowers is having both legs amputated.

by Chiefs_40 on Dec 8, 2010 7:50 PM CST up reply actions  

damnit, I was afraid of that

any word on how long he might be out?

Winner: 2009 Nostradamus of Arrowhead Pride Award (I'd like to thank my producer, my director, all of my wonderful fans ... )
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
Come back, Jason!
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Dec 8, 2010 7:51 PM CST up reply actions  

tis but a flesh wound.

"What we need is......more cowbell." - C. Walken

by ChiefMedic on Dec 8, 2010 7:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Depends on how long the Robot Legs take to kick in

With modern Technology he’s 50/50 on playing today.

by ChiefWarPaint on Dec 8, 2010 7:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Well

We have the #1 run offense and their is still defense and special teams. Not all on the QB. I trust the coaching staff too. The Chiefs will still won bc they are the better “team”.

Lots of negativity on this board. I wouldn’t write off the Chiefs, Croyle, or the Coaching staff. Won’t be easy, but no divisional game is.

Time to slam the door on the Chargers and there are multiple ways to do so on Sunday.

"The greater the struggle, the more glorious the triumph"

Eric Berry counted to infinity -- twice.

by SwimCoach on Dec 8, 2010 7:42 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

SC is one of the most knowledgable guys on this board

and he’s right … even if his spelling and grammar are atrocious (and they are)

Winner: 2009 Nostradamus of Arrowhead Pride Award (I'd like to thank my producer, my director, all of my wonderful fans ... )
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
Come back, Jason!
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Dec 8, 2010 7:45 PM CST up reply actions  

ahhhhhh missed da winky, bad eyeballs here

goes with being older than dirt

Winner: 2009 Nostradamus of Arrowhead Pride Award (I'd like to thank my producer, my director, all of my wonderful fans ... )
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
Come back, Jason!
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Dec 8, 2010 7:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Just for you Ups

I’ll say JK from now on, or put it in sarcasm font.

by ChiefWarPaint on Dec 8, 2010 7:51 PM CST up reply actions  

well, thing is ...

I was there when my Dad sold the original recipe for dirt to The Almighty Hisself

Winner: 2009 Nostradamus of Arrowhead Pride Award (I'd like to thank my producer, my director, all of my wonderful fans ... )
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
Come back, Jason!
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Dec 8, 2010 7:54 PM CST up reply actions  

So you're a Titan?

Do you know Liam Neeson? Awesome

by ChiefWarPaint on Dec 8, 2010 7:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Jeff Fisher

Winner: 2009 Nostradamus of Arrowhead Pride Award (I'd like to thank my producer, my director, all of my wonderful fans ... )
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
Come back, Jason!
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Dec 8, 2010 7:56 PM CST up reply actions  

I love me some Shaun Smith!

by kabrink on Dec 8, 2010 7:58 PM CST up reply actions  

Wow

Welp. On my phone and very dyslexic but thanks.

"The greater the struggle, the more glorious the triumph"

Eric Berry counted to infinity -- twice.

by SwimCoach on Dec 8, 2010 7:48 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Also

I feel like this situation happens in the NFL where a backup QB steps in a critical game and pulls it off. His stock rises and becomes the hottest item on the market. Hopefully he rips it up and we sign him up for a couple years. Teams through players and picks for Croyle’s services (Cards, Panthers, Bills, Seahawks, etc.).

"The greater the struggle, the more glorious the triumph"

Eric Berry counted to infinity -- twice.

by SwimCoach on Dec 8, 2010 7:46 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I have lots of faith in Croyle

not so much in us winning this game, per se … but that has nothing to do with my faith in Croyle

and yeah, I do hope they keep him around … I like the guy, more talent than a lot of other guys out there right now

Winner: 2009 Nostradamus of Arrowhead Pride Award (I'd like to thank my producer, my director, all of my wonderful fans ... )
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
Come back, Jason!
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Dec 8, 2010 7:50 PM CST up reply actions  

That's right!

Why, just a couple of years ago, that exact thing happened up in New England…

by Special K on Dec 8, 2010 7:50 PM CST up reply actions  

I was texting on my phone today about Brodie

and when I typed his name, my swype thought I wanted the word “brittle”. No bullshit.

That being said, I am comfortable with Croyle starting. As a matter of fact, considering his surgery I believe we SHOULD give Cassel the week off just for safety.

by KCMizzou on Dec 8, 2010 7:43 PM CST reply actions  

MS Outlook

spell checker wants to make Nascar into mascara. Kind of fits imo.

I love me some Shaun Smith!

by kabrink on Dec 8, 2010 7:55 PM CST up reply actions  

off topic but

the picture at the top of the mothership front page is hilarious. look at leonard pope

by SillyHatDay on Dec 8, 2010 7:49 PM CST reply actions  

I'm actually a little excited about seeing Brodie out there

He has never had this balanced of a team around him. There is no question that his arm is better than Cassel’s and with the better protection I think we could see something good. Gannon-Grbac part 2 here we come

by RamX21 on Dec 8, 2010 7:51 PM CST reply actions  

NFL Network is saying that he's expected to play...

Guess we’ll find out. Still, of all the games for him to miss, it’s the one where I had his jersey picked out to wear on sunday…

by SoCalChief17 on Dec 8, 2010 7:54 PM CST reply actions  

better yet, get an Iron On Tattoo

be a REAL man

Winner: 2009 Nostradamus of Arrowhead Pride Award (I'd like to thank my producer, my director, all of my wonderful fans ... )
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
Come back, Jason!
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Dec 8, 2010 7:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Yup, just put my Bowe in the washer

Cassel will be riding in the backseat of my car though, in the slim event that he’s a go.

by SoCalChief17 on Dec 8, 2010 7:57 PM CST up reply actions  

TV 1

I spilled spot remover on my dog... now he's gone.

by Tarkus on Dec 8, 2010 8:03 PM CST up reply actions  

nice

i got it DVR’s too

by BJ Kissel on Dec 8, 2010 8:04 PM CST up reply actions  

if someone has a TIVO we can freeze time, right?

that way if Croyle tosses a pick or Charles fumbles we can undo it …

damn I love modern technology

Winner: 2009 Nostradamus of Arrowhead Pride Award (I'd like to thank my producer, my director, all of my wonderful fans ... )
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
Come back, Jason!
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Dec 8, 2010 8:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Already expecting the worst, I see.

I spilled spot remover on my dog... now he's gone.

by Tarkus on Dec 8, 2010 8:09 PM CST up reply actions  

we call it "being prepared"

Winner: 2009 Nostradamus of Arrowhead Pride Award (I'd like to thank my producer, my director, all of my wonderful fans ... )
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
Come back, Jason!
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Dec 8, 2010 8:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Damn.

I just checked and they’re showing Patriots @ Bears here. We used to get a ton of AFC West games, especially involving the Chargers and Raiders.

Looks like I’ll be doing the online thing again…

I spilled spot remover on my dog... now he's gone.

by Tarkus on Dec 8, 2010 8:08 PM CST up reply actions  

row 14, ill be the one in red

its about the 15 yard line on Chiefs side of scoreboard endzone

by BJ Kissel on Dec 8, 2010 8:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Sweet

7 is around the 35 yard line, row 4. I’ll be with 2 other guys in chiefs jerseys and a charger fan. Should be fun. Are you tailgating??

by SoCalChief17 on Dec 8, 2010 8:05 PM CST up reply actions  

yeah, headed out there around 9am

told heather we’d swing by their tailgate. It’s just me and the wife but we’re riding with some charger friends.

you live in SD?

by BJ Kissel on Dec 8, 2010 8:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Nah Inland Empire

Do you know where she’s tailgating? Ill be there around 9ish also.

by SoCalChief17 on Dec 8, 2010 8:50 PM CST up reply actions  

she made a post, should have the info

lived in riverside for a while, i know the area

by BJ Kissel on Dec 8, 2010 9:00 PM CST up reply actions  

That's pretty harsh after one 0 catch game.

I spilled spot remover on my dog... now he's gone.

by Tarkus on Dec 8, 2010 7:58 PM CST up reply actions  

I've worn my Bowe the last 2 years

I wanted to switch it up, and my 2 friends already called Flowers and Charles.

by SoCalChief17 on Dec 8, 2010 7:59 PM CST up reply actions  

go slow if you hit any speed bumps

he’ll be a bit sore after the appendectomy

Winner: 2009 Nostradamus of Arrowhead Pride Award (I'd like to thank my producer, my director, all of my wonderful fans ... )
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
Come back, Jason!
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Dec 8, 2010 7:59 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Lol

This actually made me giggle.

by SoCalChief17 on Dec 8, 2010 8:00 PM CST up reply actions  

And yes, I've considered it

The arrowhead on my left asscheek. Something is telling me to hold off for a moment though.

by SoCalChief17 on Dec 8, 2010 7:58 PM CST up reply actions  

shhhhhhhhhhh

Winner: 2009 Nostradamus of Arrowhead Pride Award (I'd like to thank my producer, my director, all of my wonderful fans ... )
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
Come back, Jason!
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Dec 8, 2010 8:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Uh, can you throw?

I say put on that jersey and show up. You go in first series.

by BCRavenJHawkfan on Dec 8, 2010 8:18 PM CST up reply actions  

This was actually my first plan

But I thought having two Bowes might be better than one Cassel.

by SoCalChief17 on Dec 8, 2010 8:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Haley said it is a goal of the mgmt to "endear" Matt to the fans

Maybe they are setting up a “oh man, do you remember when Matt Cassel took us into the playoffs three days after having surgery.” “Oh hell yeah, that was awesome!” “That was the beginning of the dynasty!”

by JaySoy on Dec 8, 2010 8:07 PM CST reply actions  

he could hand out thousand dollar bills to fans as they enter the stadium

that would endear him to a LOT of people

Winner: 2009 Nostradamus of Arrowhead Pride Award (I'd like to thank my producer, my director, all of my wonderful fans ... )
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
Come back, Jason!
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Dec 8, 2010 8:09 PM CST up reply actions  

as I remember

it was a stack of 20’s at the bus stop… but yeah 1000’s at teh stadium would do just fine

hell I was extremely happy with my monday night terrible towel

what just happened?

by ArrowheadHunter on Dec 8, 2010 8:10 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm happy with Croyle starting

He did good against Baltimore last year who were one of the top defenses. and he had absolutely no run game and our defense was horrible. yet we came awful close to winning that game. Show us what you got Brodie

Can we be the AFC West Champions in 2010. You better believe it
Hali and Flowers are Pro Bowlers, even if the NFL fails to realise it

by trentchiefsfan on Dec 8, 2010 8:10 PM CST reply actions  

I remember Croyle playing pretty well that game...

wasn’t it our safeties that gave up big yardage (Todd Heap) and essentially the game.

Go Chiefs!!!!

by ravenhawk on Dec 8, 2010 8:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Yep some clutz called Mike Brown was the key offender

Can we be the AFC West Champions in 2010. You better believe it
Hali and Flowers are Pro Bowlers, even if the NFL fails to realise it

by trentchiefsfan on Dec 8, 2010 8:39 PM CST up reply actions  

I am actually almost as confident that Croyle could win as I was that Cassel could have

We have an offensive system that is much more comfortable/supportive than anything Croyle has ever had. He may be a bit behind in the rate at which he moves through his progressions, but as long as we can run effectively and Croyle can avoid turnovers and throw it away instead of getting sacked, we will win. We may not win solidly (I don’t see Croyle being as effective against the blitz) but if we avoid penalties, this team can win on the road.

Ryan Succop will be the kicker for the AFC in the 2011 Pro Bowl

by PVChiefsfan on Dec 8, 2010 8:18 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

Avoiding turnovers is the key

As long as the game stays close and our run game is still in play we have a chance. There will be 4-6 3rd down plays that could decide this game. Croyle just needs to make the correct reads on those key plays.

by BJ Kissel on Dec 8, 2010 8:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Even if he doesn't

We may still win…I think we stop their run game, make them one-dimensional, and blitz the QB on third down (how the Raiders beat them, and how we beat Denver, another great passing offense)

Ryan Succop will be the kicker for the AFC in the 2011 Pro Bowl

by PVChiefsfan on Dec 8, 2010 8:57 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

yes

But with Jackson and Sproles not likely to play and Gates not at 100%, we should be able to overcome a few mistakes by our secondary

Ryan Succop will be the kicker for the AFC in the 2011 Pro Bowl

by PVChiefsfan on Dec 8, 2010 9:27 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

If Cassel does play

then that would show us that they have know faith in Croyle. No way Cassel should play this game if Haley thinks Croyle can do a decent job.

by bringbacktheglory on Dec 8, 2010 8:40 PM CST reply actions  

There is good news here

1. Only films of Brodie available for SD are him running Herm’s offense…ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha.

2. No pressure – Thigpen not breathing down his neck.

3. Pictures of wife will be back in the paper.

by HowSweetItIs on Dec 8, 2010 9:08 PM CST reply actions  

Mark it down.

The passing offense will be more explosive this week with Croyle at QB. He might make some mistakes and might not be as consistent as Cassel, but I think the passing offense has more explosive plays than with Cassel.

The Chiefs will play action on the first play and Croyle will chuck it deep.

The views expressed by craig in calgary do not necessarily represent the views of all Canadians.

by saskwatch on Dec 8, 2010 9:10 PM CST reply actions  

I agree

Ryan Succop will be the kicker for the AFC in the 2011 Pro Bowl

by PVChiefsfan on Dec 8, 2010 9:30 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

yes, and there will be more picks, more sacks, and more injured QB's carted off the field too

The Powers Of Astute Observation Are Often Mistaken As Cynicism By Those That Do Not Posses Them -- G.B. Shaw

by Texas Chief on Dec 8, 2010 9:31 PM CST up reply actions  

All those things are quite possible too. :)

The views expressed by craig in calgary do not necessarily represent the views of all Canadians.

by saskwatch on Dec 8, 2010 9:35 PM CST up reply actions  

First Play

Run off right tackle.

But would love to see play action / bomb.

by grid_iron on Dec 8, 2010 10:44 PM CST up reply actions  

So what should we expect?

We should expect him to lace em get on the field and lead the team to a victory.
I’m sure he expects no less of himself.

okay reality………
Should probably expect an interception and two or three sacks.
55-65% completion percentage (yds largely depends on Haley and the score)
1 or 2 TD’s – I think 2
Expect Haley to try to force the run even with eight in the box.
Expect no passes on 1st down if we are leading or the score is tied.
Expect a trick play or two (Haley will think we need it to win). we dont

by grid_iron on Dec 8, 2010 10:41 PM CST reply actions  

It's funny, I was thinking this morning that the Chiefs ought to get Brodie some playing time

here at the end of the season so they could make some decisions about him. Let’s face it, he could probably take the starting QB jobs in Arizona or Carolina tomorrow. And probably SF as well.

The good news in all of this is that it happened early in the week so Croyle gets an opportunity to work with the starting offense and has a chance to get some timing down with the receivers. It also gives Weis and Haley a chance to reshape the offensive game plan to better fit him. It will be interesting to see how this goes. I expect the Chargers to blitz the crap out of him and try to put him on the bench as well, based on his history. But I’m assuming Weis has coached him as well, so it will be interesting to see how he plays – I don’t believe there’s any chance Cassel is out there this weekend.

The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing. If you can fake that, you've got it made. ~ Groucho Marx

by Big Chief on Dec 8, 2010 11:22 PM CST reply actions  

lots of positive comments

I too be;lieve Brodie has not had a decent chance with a GOOD team. Think NFL might be in for a surprise.

by littleronbrave on Dec 9, 2010 8:44 AM CST reply actions  

Call Me Crazy, BUT I look forward to seeing Brodie play in this system...

First off let me start that I think Matt Cassel is a good quarterback with growing flares of greatness thanks to Charlie Weis.

I think Brodie has grown up alot since we seen him in action last. I think he put into this system can have a great outcome. Our line can protect him and he can throw a deep, hard ball to Tucker or Dexter. I think Moeaki and Bowe will have double coverage alot and with the right reads Brodie could destroy the Chargers defense. He the go zone he can throw the dink and dunk passes all day.

The way I look at it is the Chargers will be convinced that we will run all day because our backup QB and receivers don’t have timing and everything down. I think our passing game would surprise them better if Croyle was under center.

Outcome: Chiefs still win.

Check me out on FB, "K.C. Chiefs On the WarPath"
Predicted a 10-6 Chiefs Season on Aug. 2, 2010. Believe me now?
I am live in Donkeyville - it smells funny here!!!

by ChiefsatWar on Dec 9, 2010 10:00 AM CST reply actions  

OK, you're crazy.
Call Me Crazy, BUT I look forward to seeing Brodie play in this system…

Brodie Croyle is not this rough around the edges, heaped with talent, just never got the chance QB that I keep seeing people say he is.

Brodie Croyle on the field looks a lot like the Jay Cutler that played in weeks 1-5 for the bears. He’s a guy with a strong arm that can throw a deep ball, only he makes really really poor decisions and often counts on his arm strength to zing a ball in somewhere that he never should have thrown it in the first place. – That’s Brodie. That’s what he’s shown the vast majority of the time that he’s been on the field throughout his NFL career.

Go ahead and blame the Oline (that that wasn’t so bad as to send any other QB’s out with injury 6 out 9 games). Blame the lack of a running game…that Thigpen seems to be able to work around and still make the offense exciting (bad, but exciting). Make all the excuses you like, just remember:

The truth is that Brodie Croyle has spent his career holding a clipboard for a reason. Even at his clumsiest, Matt Cassel was still the better QB at reading the defense and not making dumb decisions. Cassel may have taken sacks holding on to the ball too long….but Croyle would have thrown the ball 55 yards down the field, off his back foot, into tripple coverage, while being hit at the same time….. A stronger arm does not make for a better QB: Just ask Tom Cable.

For the Chiefs to win Croyle will have to hand the ball off a lot, and manage the game, and take advantage of play action underneath passes, as well as having to learn how to go beyond his 1st read before he tries to force a ball into someone that isn’t open. The reason Todd Haley had to scream from the sideline “SNAP THE FUCKING BALL BRODIE”, is that Croyle is so poor at pre-snap reads of the defense.

The biggest factor in the Chief’s being able to beat the Chargers this time around will be the play of the defense, and limiting turnovers and penalities. Croyle is a back up QB, and that’s where he belongs.

The Powers Of Astute Observation Are Often Mistaken As Cynicism By Those That Do Not Posses Them -- G.B. Shaw

by Texas Chief on Dec 10, 2010 3:40 PM CST up reply actions  

Comments For This Post Are Closed


User Tools

Welcome to SB Nation's Kansas City Chiefs blog! Follow us on Facebook and on Twitter.

FanPosts

Community blog posts and discussion.

Recommended FanPosts

Small
Chiefs OTA's: Some Real Football News
Dscn3246_3_small
Worst Case Scenario
Lips-rhps_small
Translating Coachspeak (Humor & Satire)

Recent FanPosts

Supernova1007_small
What Does it Take?
Ford-mustang-gt-2011-wallpaper-02_small
Hope
New_kc_helm_small
Scott Pioli: Genuine Mastermind Part 1 - Quarterbacks
Dirtyhippy_small
The Epic Battle of Pittsburgh(Game 9 preview)
Spit_small
A Unique Look At Elite QB's and Ricky Stanzi
309look_small
Cassel, can the chiefs get a ring on his back?
Small
Trade McCluster...
Supernova1007_small
A New 3-4 team in the NFL
Supernova1007_small
Fashionistas

+ New FanPost All FanPosts >


Managers

Ct_fb_small Chris Thorman

Headshot_small Joel Thorman

Editors

288-chiefstexans0944_sp_8-15-09_jfs woodman212

Matt_ssv_pic_small_small Matt Conner

Stag_20silhouette_small stagdsp

Lips-rhps_small upamtn

Contributors

Kc_ny_small NJ Chiefs Fan

Phoenix_by_melen_small KaloPhoenix

N1358340181_30185582_5800_small Flowers24

Small Jon Yoon

Dirkness_small HisDirkness

Dscn3246_3_small MNchiefsfan

Cassel_small Steve_in_RI