Raiders' Richard Seymour 'Was A Problem For Us', Chiefs Coach Says

by Joel Thorman on Nov 8, 2010 8:31 PM CST in 2010 Kansas City Chiefs Season

On Sept. 6, 2009 the Oakland Raiders sent the New England Patriots a first round pick in exchange for DT Richard Seymour. It was one of those out-of-nowhere trades that caught everyone by surprise. As a fan of the Kansas City Chiefs, another AFC West team, I liked the trade because I thought it favored the Patriots by a wide margin.

I'm still not so sure that's a great trade for Oakland but Seymour showed up in a big way against the Chiefs. His full impact can't be seen in the box score (although he lead everyone in tackles) but he was a big, big part of how the Raiders held the Chiefs to 104 yards on the ground.

"In the run game," Todd Haley told reporters on Monday, "the Oakland Raiders did a very good job inside, specifically [Richard] Seymour. I know I don't talk about other players a whole bunch but he really was a problem for us yesterday. Richard Seymour, he's a great player. That's one of those things that we need to learn form.

"We can't allow a top player to disrupt our game plan as much as he was able to do that. It was throughout the game and it caused us problems even late in the game when we were trying to run out the clock."

Seymour was a significant factor on Sunday. It seemed that the announcers were consistently calling his name as he disrupted the backfield. Haley referenced Seymour's tackle behind the line of scrimmage late in the game as a critical play, even suggesting the Chiefs were lucky that Seymour didn't steal the hand off.

Richard Seymour was the leader of a defense that slowed down the Chiefs. The good thing for the Chiefs is that, while the Raiders created a blueprint of sorts to beat the Chiefs, not every team has a Richard Seymour to help them out.

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I think that’s what KC hopes for Tyson Jackson.

by kc571 on Nov 8, 2010 8:33 PM CST reply actions

Chiefs Oline was god awful blocking the run all game long

at least from what i saw…pass pro was decent, but the run blocking was piss-poor against a bigger, more physical raider front 7, & it wasnt just Seymour… Kelly was giving us the bizness too. We were just dominated.

and the Chiefs put the HAMMER DOWN!!!!

by reedeasy on Nov 8, 2010 8:35 PM CST reply actions

Kelly was all over the flag farce

Just try to STOP US

by Steve_Chiefs on Nov 8, 2010 8:38 PM CST up reply actions

I'm still glad the Raiders made that trade

But for the next two years or so while Seymour is very effective it will be tough.

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by Joel Thorman on Nov 8, 2010 8:36 PM CST reply actions

that was the best front 7 the Chiefs have faced all year

they just straight couldn’t hang.

and the Chiefs put the HAMMER DOWN!!!!

by reedeasy on Nov 8, 2010 8:40 PM CST up reply actions

Waters

Is still trying to figure out WTF happened.

by BucktheFroncos on Nov 8, 2010 8:37 PM CST via mobile reply actions

he got manhandled

couldnt stick a block for shit yesterday

and the Chiefs put the HAMMER DOWN!!!!

by reedeasy on Nov 8, 2010 8:38 PM CST up reply actions

Bewsaf's post should be interesting this week

It's all about the gameplan

by stagdsp on Nov 8, 2010 8:40 PM CST up reply actions

indeed

and the Chiefs put the HAMMER DOWN!!!!

by reedeasy on Nov 8, 2010 8:42 PM CST up reply actions

Seymour owned Waters

by ChiefDJ on Nov 8, 2010 8:40 PM CST reply actions

agreeð

They even showed replays of Waters getting his ass kicked.

by Larryemcdaniel on Nov 8, 2010 8:44 PM CST via mobile up reply actions

I remember one play where Water's pulled, and Seymour came right through the hole and sacked Cassel.

Can anyone tell I"m impressed? I don’t need any damn KoolAid. Reality is just as sweet!

by rwalke10 on Nov 8, 2010 8:44 PM CST reply actions

That was messed up

Just try to STOP US

by Steve_Chiefs on Nov 8, 2010 8:46 PM CST up reply actions

shit like that happened the whole game

our finesse-oriented zone blocking schemes were no match for the much bigger & stronger Raider D line.

and the Chiefs put the HAMMER DOWN!!!!

by reedeasy on Nov 8, 2010 8:47 PM CST up reply actions

Finesse-Oriented

Is the key word. That’s exactly why we have troubles converting short yardage, especially yesterday.

by Larryemcdaniel on Nov 8, 2010 8:54 PM CST via mobile up reply actions

I watched Weigmann jump to the 2nd level several times, completely ignoring the D-lineman in front of him.

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by Falcon58 on Nov 8, 2010 9:15 PM CST up reply actions

I wonder whose fault that was.

Doesn’t make sense that it was Waters’, though he got beat plenty of other times. Albert? Wiegs? The running back?

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by Brsrkr on Nov 9, 2010 3:24 AM CST up reply actions

it was the back's fault

He was too far outside, looking for a blitzer, when I am sure his first responsibility was the B gap.

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by PVChiefsfan on Nov 9, 2010 6:12 AM CST up reply actions

So can we put Ocally in at guard lol....

Seriously we have an improved line and up until this game we were on a roll…so maybe Lilja was a little off with the injury and Seymour killed us..we won’t let it happen again…sounds like they underestimated the Dline. We still moved the ball just could’t get the 3rd downs converted…what an ugly game.

by KEANEKONG on Nov 8, 2010 9:21 PM CST reply actions

On a different note...

It will be interesting to see if the Chiefs make a run for Al Harris…I saw he was released from the Packers. Seems like a veteran leader for our young secondary.

by groundedchevy on Nov 8, 2010 9:34 PM CST reply actions

Really?

I wonder if he’d play safety? We’re pretty thin there with injuries lately.

by Brsrkr on Nov 9, 2010 3:26 AM CST up reply actions

My thoughts excatly

Pro Bowl CB that has lost a step moved to Safety…doesn’t sound bad too me

by groundedchevy on Nov 9, 2010 9:15 AM CST up reply actions

mccluster

I really believe he would have been the difference in this game. He is exactly what we needed. He needs to get the all more when he is back. He is a great variable.

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by casselreadychiefs on Nov 8, 2010 9:36 PM CST via mobile reply actions

no q we missed him

small & quick & shifty enough to neutralize the straight line speed of the raiders backers & secondary

and the Chiefs put the HAMMER DOWN!!!!

by reedeasy on Nov 8, 2010 9:44 PM CST up reply actions

In related news...

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by craig in calgary on Nov 8, 2010 10:05 PM CST reply actions

Where's DEX?

I know he was questionable going into Oakland….but will he finally play this week. Our receivers are getting no separation whatsoever and our only play maker is Charles, who is not even a wide receiver. Everyone saw Jacoby Ford run by Flowers….McCluster can do the same and from the running back position, and also special teams. Matt Cassel can throw a short pass (like always) and more times than not McCluster will make the first guy miss…..and then it’s off to the races.

by KC_CZAR on Nov 8, 2010 10:26 PM CST reply actions

So, what are the chances we pick him up next season?

I’m pretty much over Tyson

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by R2J_24 on Nov 8, 2010 10:41 PM CST reply actions

really?

after a season and a half?

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by MountainManMike on Nov 8, 2010 11:44 PM CST up reply actions

Really?

Because he’s been way, way, way better this season, even with the limited snaps coming back from his injury.

Like night and day. I want to keep a guy that’s improving that quickly.

I learned from Dorsey that if a young D-lineman is improving, stick with him.

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by MNchiefsfan on Nov 9, 2010 7:47 AM CST up reply actions

can Tyson becomes the next Seymour?

does he have the strength and quickness like him?

by 72chiefs on Nov 9, 2010 12:18 AM CST reply actions

They play different positions.

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by skunk420 on Nov 9, 2010 9:09 PM CST up reply actions

Even with the O-line issues, the ST screw-ups, DMC out, the defensive errors,

the Chiefs penalties, the failure to turn Raider errors into points….
the one play that cost the Chiefs the win was the 3rd and long at 2:3~ to go with the Chiefs up by 3 – Weis/Haley decided to THROW on 3rd and the incompletion stopped the clock. That gave the Raiders at least 2-3 plays (don’t recall for sure how many) BEFORE the 2 min warning AND a freebie time-out. Without the extra plays, they don’t make it into field goal range…no tie and Chiefs win. Very poor game and time management. Worst part is that it’s at least the 3rd time we’ve seen it this season and they keep on doing it.

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by WorL4Chiefs on Nov 9, 2010 1:12 AM CST reply actions

They got away with it by the skin of their teeth before, but this time it cost them the game

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by WorL4Chiefs on Nov 9, 2010 1:13 AM CST up reply actions

That play was there to be had.

So I’d blame the execution more than the call, that time. But there were plenty of other calls that I thought sucked.

by Brsrkr on Nov 9, 2010 3:38 AM CST up reply actions

Our running game succeeds mostly because of our backs, not the line.

In the Houston game, I thought it was a pretty stark difference – you could tell their running game was good because of their oline, and ours was good because of our talented backs. I think that might be a big reason we got Jones, because Pioli & co. knew the backs would have to carry a huge load for a season or three until they could refresh the oline.

There’s a downside to being dependent on one or two good backs for our offense, and that got exposed on Sunday.

by Brsrkr on Nov 9, 2010 3:33 AM CST reply actions

It could have all been irrelevant

Just over 2 minutes, Raiders out of time outs, 3rd , and 12. Cassell with a perfect back shoulder throw hits Bowe right in the hands and the game is OVER! 3 kneel downs and all of this conversation is moot. Instead, it’s just one more critical drop by Bowenigma. We really need reliable receivers who can get separation nexrt year.

by MarylandChief on Nov 9, 2010 4:49 AM CST via mobile reply actions

Even Moeaki

Had a crucial drop on 3rd down.

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by MNchiefsfan on Nov 9, 2010 7:48 AM CST up reply actions

Regardless of Seymour they had the game won

by FrankPitts on Nov 9, 2010 7:46 AM CST reply actions

...similar to regardless to Freeny

by FrankPitts on Nov 9, 2010 7:47 AM CST reply actions

That's like saying

the iceberg was “a bit of a problem” for the Titanic…

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by MNchiefsfan on Nov 9, 2010 7:49 AM CST reply actions

just a wee bit, eh?

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by upamtn on Nov 9, 2010 9:02 AM CST up reply actions

They key is the passing game...

…you have to dedicate a lot to stop KC’s run and they need to be able make you pay for it. That will come. I remember watching the Pats play I think it was Dallas but I’m not sure when Weis was there. In the first quarter they ran every play and did fairly well. Second quarter they passed EVERY down. It was a sweet machine that had you always on your heels.

by FrankPitts on Nov 9, 2010 7:55 AM CST reply actions