Just How Good is Charles?
by Red N Gold Beast on Oct 22, 2010 6:57 PM CDT
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PrintAs it usually goes, some spirited debate here got me talking about and researching a subject. I made the statement that there isn't a running back in the NFL that I would take over Charles. Some members challenged me on that so I had to get to looking at it. Just how good is Jamaal Charles? Where does he stand when compared to the other running backs in the NFL? So I got digging through NFL.com's stats for the 2010 season and started looking at where Charles sits in the stat book... And all I can say is that this is freaking insane:
The number one thing that I looked at was yards per game average. That gives a good barometer to look at when talking about leading rushers up to this point because some teams have had bye weeks, others have not... Here's a list of the top 10 running backs, and their stats:
| Rk | Player | Team | Pos | Att | Att/G | Yds | Avg | Yds/G | TD | Lng | 1st | 1st% | 20+ | 40+ | FUM |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Adrian Peterson | MIN | RB | 112 | 22.4 | 553 | 4.9 | 110.6 | 4 | 80T | 25 | 22.3 | 3 | 1 | 0 |
| 2 | Arian Foster | HOU | RB | 115 | 19.2 | 635 | 5.5 | 105.8 | 6 | 74T | 36 | 31.3 | 6 | 2 | 1 |
| 3 | Chris Johnson | TEN | RB | 139 | 23.2 | 596 | 4.3 | 99.3 | 7 | 76T | 25 | 18.0 | 5 | 3 | 2 |
| 4 | Rashard Mendenhall | PIT | RB | 116 | 23.2 | 495 | 4.3 | 99.0 | 5 | 50T | 25 | 21.6 | 4 | 1 | 0 |
| 5 | Darren McFadden | OAK | RB | 85 | 21.2 | 392 | 4.6 | 98.0 | 1 | 33 | 19 | 22.4 | 3 | 0 | 1 |
| 6 | Ahmad Bradshaw | NYG | RB | 110 | 18.3 | 582 | 5.3 | 97.0 | 3 | 45 | 29 | 26.4 | 8 | 1 | 3 |
| 7 | Steven Jackson | STL | RB | 127 | 21.2 | 507 | 4.0 | 84.5 | 2 | 42T | 26 | 20.5 | 2 | 1 | 0 |
| 8 | Jamaal Charles | KC | RB | 66 | 13.2 | 418 | 6.3 | 83.6 | 1 | 56T | 19 | 28.8 | 4 | 1 | 1 |
| 9 | LaDainian Tomlinson | NYJ | RB | 92 | 15.3 | 490 | 5.3 | 81.7 | 5 | 31 | 26 | 28.3 | 5 | 0 | 1 |
| 10 | Cedric Benson | CIN | RB | 103 | 20.6 | 406 | 3.9 | 81.2 | 2 | 22 | 24 | 23.3 | 1 | 0 | 2 |
Boom. Number 8 in the NFL for rushing yds/G. That in and of itself would be pretty impressive, but look closer. He's done it in 66 carries. Look at his peers' carries... 112, 115, 139... Darren McFadden is the closest to Charles, and he's still got 19 more carries... that's about a full game for most featured backs. And McFadden was out for a game (he's only played in 4 games). That's impressive... but not nearly as impressive as when you break this down even further.
Let's figure out an average number of carries for the other top 10 running backs. Add up the other 9's carries and divide it by that. We get: 999/9 = 111. 111 carry average for the other top 10 backs. That's a 45 carry difference to Charles!!! Let that sit for a minute. Charles has made top 10 status for NFL RBs in 45 fewer carries than it took the others! That's incredible. But it doesn't end there.
Move your attention to the 3rd and 2nd from last columns, "20+" and "40+" yard runs. Let's just consolidate these into 20+, so for instance, Adrian Peterson would have four 20+ yard runs. Reorder the chart and you have Charles tied for 4th place for most 20+ yard runs, with 5. That puts him 4 behind Bradshaw's 9 and 3 behind Chris Johnson and Arian Foster's 8. Pretty impressive, but again, keep in mind the carries. Charles has 5 long runs on about 50 fewer carries than the guys ahead of him... but wait... let's look at that in a percentage based way. Let's figure out what percentage of the time these backs are busting off long runs per carry:
|
PLAYER |
20+ YRD RUNS |
CARRIES |
LONG RUN % |
|
9 |
110 |
8.2% |
|
|
Jamaal Charles |
5 |
66 |
7.6% |
|
Arian Foster |
8 |
115 |
7.0% |
|
Chris Johnson |
8 |
139 |
5.8% |
|
Ladainian Tomlinson |
5 |
92 |
5.4% |
|
5 |
116 |
4.3% |
|
|
Adrian Peterson |
4 |
112 |
3.6% |
|
Darren McFadden |
3 |
85 |
3.5% |
|
Steven Jackson |
3 |
127 |
2.4% |
|
1 |
103 |
1.0% |
Not too shabby, huh? Charles isn't leading the pack, but he is way up there. 7.6% of the time he carries the ball he picks up a big chunk of yardage. Just out of curiosity I looked back at 2009 and did the same thing with some of the top rusher's stats and found these numbers to be pretty consistent. Johnson lead the league in long runs per carry last year with about 8%. So I think the numbers listed above while may not be conclusive to who ends with what, are about on par with what happens season to season. The top rushers make about 4%-8% of their touches count in a big way.
Bottom line is that Charles is having a killer year, and he's doing it without taking the strain of a 400 carry season. The Chiefs are on pace right now to run the 528 ball times. The Jets led the NFL last year with 607 rushing attempts, so 528 sounds about on par for the top rushing team. Charles himself is on pace to finish the year with 1338 yards, on 211 carries.
Just for fun though, let's look at what Charles' season stats would be if we extrapolate them so that he's the premiere RB. He currently has a 6.3 ypc average, but lets bump that down to his career average, 5.9 ypc. And let's say he would carry the ball 350 times, instead of the full 528, to account for breathers and what not. CJ ran the ball 358 times last year, so I think this is a reasonable number to use. Assuming that there is no injury or big drop off in his career ypc average, he'd run the ball for.... 2205 yards. That would be enough to bust Eric Dickerson's single season record of 2105 yards. Too bad the Chiefs are looking for wins and prolonged production rather than records. It would be kind of fun to take a crack at a record that hasn't been broken in 26 years.
So, that's where Jamaal Charles stands through 5 games. I don't think we're going to see much of a change, the guy has been producing big every time he touches the ball since he got here. That said... let's add a poll here:
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Nice information. I agree. I think Charles is awesome. I watched Johnson some last
week and he and Charles are very similar. Both great backs.
great post rec'd
a stat I looked at a while back was——-look at his the only games in his career that he has had at least 20+ carries in a game. It’s only 4 and it was the last 4 of last year but a if i remember right (which I think I do) without looking back at stats, it’s 658….WOW!!. And when you look at it, amazingly his ypc goes up the more carries he gets. If he ran consistently like that he would get 2605 yards in a year.
Rec'd
How good is Charles? Too good and the Chiefs are reaping all the benefits!
Jamaal Charles...Enough said.
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55-35
This is obviously a little biased...
Since the large majority of people here are Chiefs fans… but come on. Even trying to look at this from an outsiders view I would take Charles over any back in the NFL right now… he’s producing record breaking numbers. He’s going to break 1200 yards on 200 carries!!! That’s nuts man.
"Reach for new elevation; and see just how high we can go. Full blown determination; will take us further than we know. My own anticipation; keeps the fire from burning out, It's time for domination... no one can ever take us down" - Pillar - "For the Love of the Game"
by Red N Gold Beast on Oct 22, 2010 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions
I try not to be biased
but I’m right there with you I believe Charles is 1 of maybe 3 that constantly fight for the best back in the league.
Jamaal Charles...Enough said.
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55-35
if I had to take a running back and I could not pick JC
without looking at age I would have to take L. Tomlinson. He is the most complete back in nfl right now if you look at the hole aspect….running ball, blocking, and catching.
Yes, LT is back from the dead.
I’m glad he’s out of the AFC West.
"Reach for new elevation; and see just how high we can go. Full blown determination; will take us further than we know. My own anticipation; keeps the fire from burning out, It's time for domination... no one can ever take us down" - Pillar - "For the Love of the Game"
by Red N Gold Beast on Oct 22, 2010 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions
LOL
I like how Adrian Peterson has 2 votes..the guy if a fumble machine. Even with his production, I think he proved last year that his fumbles ARE a problem, and WILL cost them games.
Even though we know Charles has had issues holding the ball, its obviously not hurting us much. 1 fumble lost for the year, 3 fumbles lost last year. AP fumbled 7 times, losing 6 last year, not counting playoffs. He fumbled NINE times the season before! Luckily only lost 4.
Id rather have Charles on anyday, and thats based on NUMBERS, not from being a homer. Okay, maybe a LITTLE..
In the last 3 years, Adrian Peterson has lost 10 fumbles on 789 carries.
That’s one fumble every 78.9 carries
In the last 3 years, Jamaal Charles has lost 6 fumbles on 323 carries. That’s one fumble every 58 carries.
The reason AP fumbles more, he carries the rock more.
by craig in calgary on Oct 22, 2010 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions
thats false
some of his fumbles were off kick returns. not carries
his fumble/carry ratio will get better by a good amount now that he’s not doing returns.
thank you good bye
by chiefnation on Oct 22, 2010 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
and Emmitt Smith had 19 fumbles his first 3 years
Sanders also had 19 while Okoye had 14 fumbles. Does that make them any worse than Charles or AP? Even good players fumble ;)
Jamaal Charles...Enough said.
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55-35
The original poster called AP a "fumble machine"
I was just pointing out Jamaal fumbled more than AP per touch.
Also when you have a player as dynamic as AP, JC or Barry Sanders, you can “forgive” some of the fumbles because the next time they touch the ball, they have the ability to go 80 and a touch.
Good RB’s fumble, good QB’s throw picks and good WR’s drop balls. It’s part of football.
by craig in calgary on Oct 22, 2010 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions
And Peterson has 0 fumbles so far this year.
That’s impressive.
"Reach for new elevation; and see just how high we can go. Full blown determination; will take us further than we know. My own anticipation; keeps the fire from burning out, It's time for domination... no one can ever take us down" - Pillar - "For the Love of the Game"
by Red N Gold Beast on Oct 22, 2010 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Ball security may've cost KC a 1st down, even though it wasn't a fumble.
JC has some work to do on his technique. No way a guy should be able to knock it loose by putting a finger on it, like happened to JC last Sunday.
He's thinking too much about beating the guys in front of him, and unmindful of the guy coming behind.
Nothing wrong with mapping out your route, but better ball habits (without thinking about them) are in order, with this guy. He IS a little loose with it.
if charles plays consistently like he has
then by the end of this year or the end of next year he will be considered one of the best rb’s of all time…
I like splitting carries like this and when Jones retiers I think we should split them with charles/battle
I agree
Maybe some body other than Battle/or not but to keep the weapon sharp we should keep it sheathed some. Another issue for Haley to keep an eye on.
He will lead us from the Wilderness and then fade away when we are in the Promised Land.
by Steve_Chiefs on Oct 22, 2010 7:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Really? One of the best of all time? After 2-3 years?
I would agree that he has the ability to get there some day, but nobody gets that recognition that quick…..
yeah I know that was a little too soon
it will take longer
by chiefnation on Oct 22, 2010 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions
If he ends next year with a 5.6 ypc or higher for his career,
Then I think it would be time to start throwing his name in there.
"Reach for new elevation; and see just how high we can go. Full blown determination; will take us further than we know. My own anticipation; keeps the fire from burning out, It's time for domination... no one can ever take us down" - Pillar - "For the Love of the Game"
by Red N Gold Beast on Oct 22, 2010 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Could be, but I really think it takes longer than that....
Maybe a 2500 yard season could do it……But that would really only be 2.5 seasons of productivity. If that’s the case I think Bo Jackson would have to be up there (btw I think he would’ve been the best ever) but he isn’t in the conversation in my opinion. As a Bronco fan I would love to say TD is up there (and his 2k season and 2 super bowls make a good argument), but I might even hesitate there. I wish he could’ve stuck around another few years and left no doubt.
I guess I don’t think any player at any position becomes a part of that conversation without at least 5-6 years of great productivity. You look at Walter Payton, Jim Brown, Barry Sanders, and want to put JC up there? Maybe some day, but not yet.
Okay
Name Dropper :)
He will lead us from the Wilderness and then fade away when we are in the Promised Land.
by Steve_Chiefs on Oct 22, 2010 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Haha....maybe I'm just getting old....
But it takes quite a bit to put a player in the ‘best of all time’ conversation. I could probably boil it down to about 12-15 players who are currently in the league who I might put in that conversation.
I really like Jamaal Charles.
But Adrian Peterson is rediculous. You can’t take him down with arm tackles and he can still turn the corner as fast as anyone. I don’t think there is any doubt he’s the best RB in the game.
by craig in calgary on Oct 22, 2010 8:25 PM CDT reply actions
he's verry good at running the ball
but when you say best in the game you have to consider the all around game…running the ball, catching screens, running routes, blocking.
when you consider all that he is not but I would say still top 3. He’s great at running the ball but needs to work on the others. If he was as good at the others as he is at runnig the ball, then I would say maybe.
I dont know that Charles is a better blocker than Peterson
Charles may be the better receiver, but I don’t believe AP has any problems catching screens, and AP is a better all around runner. He probably accelerates as fast as any other back in the league, including CJ and JC… His top-end speed isn’t too far off, and his power/balance is unmatched.
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by ArrowSpread on Oct 23, 2010 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions
True...
But JC is probably the best open field runner in the game. He gets hard to stop at the second level because of his shiftiness. And I’m really impressed with his vision. He seems to find holes when it doesn’t seem like there should be any.
"Reach for new elevation; and see just how high we can go. Full blown determination; will take us further than we know. My own anticipation; keeps the fire from burning out, It's time for domination... no one can ever take us down" - Pillar - "For the Love of the Game"
by Red N Gold Beast on Oct 23, 2010 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions
AP can't mess with moves like this!
Jamaal Charles...Enough said.
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by Chiefsfan85 on Oct 22, 2010 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
is he dribbling an imaginary basketball?
by chiefnation on Oct 22, 2010 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions
by chiefnation
It is call swag surfing !
by 65tosspowertrap on Oct 28, 2010 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions
I voted
AP also,Power and speed is such a deadly combo.Again I would rather have Jones(20)Charles(10) anyday.(touches)
#25 J.C.
After all he is already a Chief & my homeboy !
by 65tosspowertrap on Oct 28, 2010 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Ed Podolak
He will lead us from the Wilderness and then fade away when we are in the Promised Land.
by Steve_Chiefs on Oct 22, 2010 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
The reverse-of-field IS reminiscent of Podolak. Marcus Allen, also.
And he LOOKED a lot more like a young Marcus on that one he busted out Sunday, than the Polack I admired as a lad. There’s a body-type and movement resemblance to Marcus that was almost uncanny.
I think it no coincidence that both PIT and KAN get good blocking from their WRs.
That’s why they’re both league leaders in big runs. I think Thomas Jones busted off a 20-yarder last week, didn’t he?
I bet Jones is not far off the bottom of that list, and he actually gained on Jamaal last week.
18th in ypg average.
1 20+ yard run. 3.9 ypc average.
If Jones was a premiere back he’d be a top 10 rusher too. Our backfield is just flat out sick. We should attempt to break the single season team rushing record. I bet we can…
"Reach for new elevation; and see just how high we can go. Full blown determination; will take us further than we know. My own anticipation; keeps the fire from burning out, It's time for domination... no one can ever take us down" - Pillar - "For the Love of the Game"
by Red N Gold Beast on Oct 22, 2010 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Tell Haley
I am sure that would not hurt his feelings :)
He will lead us from the Wilderness and then fade away when we are in the Promised Land.
by Steve_Chiefs on Oct 22, 2010 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions
We can do it... lol...
Have you seen our next 5 opponents? We might come out of the next 5 game stretch with a 250 rushing ypg average.
"Reach for new elevation; and see just how high we can go. Full blown determination; will take us further than we know. My own anticipation; keeps the fire from burning out, It's time for domination... no one can ever take us down" - Pillar - "For the Love of the Game"
by Red N Gold Beast on Oct 22, 2010 11:35 PM CDT up reply actions
chiefnation italicized my thread...
Thanks a lot.
"Reach for new elevation; and see just how high we can go. Full blown determination; will take us further than we know. My own anticipation; keeps the fire from burning out, It's time for domination... no one can ever take us down" - Pillar - "For the Love of the Game"
by Red N Gold Beast on Oct 22, 2010 10:38 PM CDT reply actions
Woah... I fixed it.
"Reach for new elevation; and see just how high we can go. Full blown determination; will take us further than we know. My own anticipation; keeps the fire from burning out, It's time for domination... no one can ever take us down" - Pillar - "For the Love of the Game"
by Red N Gold Beast on Oct 22, 2010 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions
hey anytime man....im here
I did sarcasm font on one comment….didn’t know it would do it to everything?
by chiefnation on Oct 22, 2010 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions
hahahah
Pee Wee Hermann word of the Day
Italicize
He will lead us from the Wilderness and then fade away when we are in the Promised Land.
As of right now
I think Jamaal is the 3rd best in the league. I would still put Peterson at 1 and Johnson at 2, followed by Jamaal. And if anybody is thinking that saying he is the 3rd best is a huge insult is probably being a little ridiculous(no offense).
Adrian Peterson’s career pretty much talk for themselves. The big argument against him has been the fumbles, but he has lost zero so far this year.
Chris Johnson is coming off a 2000 yard season. I know people are going to say about how he got a lot of carries to get it, but he also went 9 people in the box every game. Chris Johnson is still a very good back, and reminds me a lot of Jamaal, except he has to be the guy and teams know it and are crowding the box.
Saying Jamaal is the the 3rd best is a very high compliment to him. i would hope nobody would be angry at me for saying that, I’m just going off what I see. I just think he is behind two future HOF, and maybe Jamaal is too :). I just think there is a big from being the guy and running a duel back system, so the stats are going to be in Jamaal’s favor.
Great post, Red!
Good post Porkchop. Rec'd
What’s even better is that he’s doing it in a controlled way. I really like the Jones pickup, and it’s working out just like I’d hoped it would. Jones still has enough in the tank to run well, and JC is otherworldly.
There will always be the question of “can Jamaal handle the full load” until he has a 300 carry season. But to be honest, I hope we never learn the answer. I hope we manage to keep a 2nd good RB here after Jones leaves (Battle, you feel like stepping up with Dex?) and keep JC at around 225-250 carries a year for an 8 year career (forever for a RB).
Like you said, they’re concerned with winning games, and JC can be part of the long term solution.
Speaking of which, isn’t it odd to see stars being made before our eyes? Flowers is starting to gain the rep of one of the best CB’s in the league. JC’s getting lots of attention. I’ve heard people start to mention how Brandon Albert has yet to give up a sack this year. Even Dorsey is getting talked about as a very very good 3-4 DE.
We’ve been waiting for this, and it’s awesome to see it happening!
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
Jeeze, I almost forgot to mention Hali
Who is getting mentioned with upper-tier pass rushers now.
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
Yep, and thanks MN... even though I'm not porkchop ;-)
All I really wanted last year was to see the emergence of our stars… we kind of got that in Hali, flowers and Charles, but couldn’t make it work. It’s good to see the stars that we have continue to develop and perfect their game. The blossoming of Dorsey and Albert are big this year. It’s an exciting time to be a Chiefs fan, for sure.
"Reach for new elevation; and see just how high we can go. Full blown determination; will take us further than we know. My own anticipation; keeps the fire from burning out, It's time for domination... no one can ever take us down" - Pillar - "For the Love of the Game"
by Red N Gold Beast on Oct 23, 2010 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, sorry about the name thing...
I have no idea where that came from… It was very late and I’m kind of stupid :)
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
Great article beast...
I have followed JC’s career for a years now and his MO is he has to carry the ball to be productive…and to think these defenses know whats about to happen"he will touch the ball" when he comes in is really unbelieveable…I’m not going to get in a cuss and discuss about JC and TJ…but I believe Jamaal is biting his tongue and being a team player,which is great…..but knowing the kinda guy he is and what and how he wants his future to be,dont be surprised if he plays for another team next year,but we shall worry about that next year!…I think he feels and he has shown he can play football like the other great backs his size…and if that means moving on,I think he will….he has accepted the fact that he is not the featured back in our offense,and he knows it will probably stay that way this year…Again Beast,fantastik piece on Jamaal,keep up the good work….
Thanks Dandy.... I knew you'd like this post :)
The only argument I have with you is that Charles isn’t going to play for another team next year. He’ll be a restricted free agent, so he’s not getting away. And on top of that… if the Chiefs make the playoffs I don’t think Charles is going to want to go anywhere. This is a guy that has seen the transformation this team has gone through, from the ground up. If the Chiefs make the playoffs, then that’s proof positive of what this coaching staff has been telling the team. He’ll know that they’re doing things right and want to stay here. The chance for the big game is far more alluring than breaking records.
And, Charles is going to get paid. The Chiefs aren’t going to let this guy get away, I can promise you that. Charles will be here for a long time, I think.
"Reach for new elevation; and see just how high we can go. Full blown determination; will take us further than we know. My own anticipation; keeps the fire from burning out, It's time for domination... no one can ever take us down" - Pillar - "For the Love of the Game"
by Red N Gold Beast on Oct 23, 2010 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Agreed and rec'd as well RGB
I like Charles a lot. I think your stats point out that he is more than what meets the eye. I also agree with mills that he does need to hold onto the ball no matter what that takes. Charles will be a Chief for a long time I think. Here’s to seeing him in about 8-10 playoff games!
"You gonna pull them pistols...or whistle Dixie?"
I think it depends on what he wants. Somebody else might want to break the bank for his services. Pioli won't, imo.
I think there’s plenty of bargaining room, here. A deal that keeps Jamaal happy and doesn’t break the bank is the right answer, if I read Jamaal’s character correctly. Short-term, Jamaal gives them a better chance of winning, but the long-term answer for production @ RB is to keep upgrading OL. It’s the surer way to victory.
What none of us want is a statistical phenom on a poor team, and that’s my knee-jerk reaction during HB negotiations. If someone wants to give up a 1st or a 2nd for my RFA, that gives me another shot at top-tier RT/LT, and I’ll churn roster at HB, where there’s probably more underrated talent in the pool than at ‘most any other position, other than LB (especially with an eye to converting DEs to OLBs). Let everyone else pursue mad measurables at those positions and fight over a few players who lit up the combine, and I’ll pick thru the leavings and overlookeds for tough guys with versatility and intangibles.
Something I noticed in the Texans game was, on that first drive, when JC was given those same “probing carries” that Jones has been getting, JC was held to minimal gains, same as Jones. And when Jones came in off the bench, he got some good yards. What I’m saying is I think some of JC’s average is the result of getting carries that are set up by intelligence obtained from those tough, early carries.
I don’t see much difference between Jones and Charles on that first series. And the guy off the bench, if he’s Charles, can bust that 8-yarder for 20+ more often than Jones will. So I really like Jones getting that first couple of carries, and JC bringing a spark off the bench. Neither guy is vying for top rushing yards in the NFL. Both are doing a very good job at keeping KC at the top in rushing yards, and neither one is being overworked.
I don’t see this situation as a “KC won’t let him get away” deal, though. It’s all up to JC and his attitude. Chiefs are still team-building and even after that, they’ll be in team-build mode, and selfish players don’t fit. Much as I respect Terrell Davis, I see a strong correlation between his cashing-in and the OL in Denver disintegrating. Denver needed to retool OL when that SB squad attrited, RIGHT when the HB got the big money. And it’s no coincidence that they WON those championships withOUT paying the big money to the HB.
In my best of all worlds, I’d be partners with my star HB, and if he’s the right sort of guy, he’s helping me get better OL and helping me pay for the best. Playoff success is where I want my players seeking success and power.
Charles isn't selfish
we seen that against the Broncos last season where he sat himself to give the other RB’s some runs…so we will see what happens.
Jamaal Charles...Enough said.
Picks
55-35
by Chiefsfan85 on Oct 23, 2010 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
We shall see.....
Beast, Hopefully you are right!!
Great read and rec'd man
I think JC has the potential to be elite, but I really do like the treatment that Haley has. It almost seems as if Charles knows that he can carry the load, but he doesnt have to and by Haley not abusing him like that, JC will have a longer lasting career. Plus the other thing to do is when players get older and their speed seems to decrease, the big benefit they get is their time of play and learing to be patient. The only problem with that is, I think JC is already patient. So I hope his speed stays with him for a LONG time.
And I would not take anyone else in the league right now. Not only is JC one of the very best. I think that he has the best head on his shoulders.
P.S. Has anyone else noticed that it seems like Chris Johnson has some type of wierd ass nervous twitch or something?
Johnson is a weird dude...
I’m sorry, but he doesn’t seem all that bright. Great runner, but his head just doesn’t seem to be on right.
"Reach for new elevation; and see just how high we can go. Full blown determination; will take us further than we know. My own anticipation; keeps the fire from burning out, It's time for domination... no one can ever take us down" - Pillar - "For the Love of the Game"
by Red N Gold Beast on Oct 23, 2010 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Have you ever heard a Jamaal interview?
by Royals Time on Oct 23, 2010 1:23 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
lol... yeah...
But Jamaal sounds more like he’s shy. I heard him last Monday on Chiefs Kingdom with Mitch Holthus on 610, he sounded really reserved.
"Reach for new elevation; and see just how high we can go. Full blown determination; will take us further than we know. My own anticipation; keeps the fire from burning out, It's time for domination... no one can ever take us down" - Pillar - "For the Love of the Game"
by Red N Gold Beast on Oct 23, 2010 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Peterson
Thats all folks,I love charles but hes just a scatback.Peterson is whole package.He run hard,smart and with power.He is a step above all others from what I have seen.Johnson wont last long in the leauge cause he touches the ball way to much.With that being said I would rather have Jones/Charles as a 1,2 punch then have to feed the ball to one overpayed player.I love this team as we are truly a team.We may not have the best at any one postion but we are good all the way around.I would rather have the right 53 than a bunch of overpaid crybaby superstars.
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