WR Prospects watch list. (Pre Workouts)
by kcchiefstd on Jan 9, 2010 9:39 PM CST
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PrintProb the deepest and hardest position to scout due to the # of players at the position. So the way I go about it is first look at Speed, then into scouting reports/stats, Then I refer to Height and weight.
This is what I came up with my 39 top WR prospects. This will be a pretty long post. Look through it and give me some imput on my picks. will put 40 times in () following school name.
1. Dez Bryant, 6'2'' 220, Okl St - Excellent hands and body control. Will fight for the ball. Most likely the first WR of the board. (rd 1)
2. Golden Tate, 5'11'' 195, ND - All around football STAR. I tried several ways to move him down atleast to #5 on the board no luck and there is a better chance he moves ahead of Bryant as the #1 WR prospect. (1st - 2nd rd)
3. Branden Lafell, 6'3'' 206, LSU (4.5 40 yd) - Good tall WR, excellent athletic ability, and good hands. (1st -2nd rd)
4. Jeremy Williams, 6'1'' 205, Tulane (4.5) - This is a WR i feel will be drafted higher than his true value. I see Williams as an average posession WR. (expected 1st - 2nd rd) I feel he is a 3rd - 4th rd talent.
5. D Thomas, 6'3'' 229, GT - If this JR runs a good 40 at the combine he could easily move into 1st rd consideration. I see him as a future STUD in the NFL at the WR position. Has all the tools. (2nd - 3rd rd prediction)
6. M. Gillyard, 6'0'' 187, Cincy (4.5) - Big play style WR I ? his ability agains bump and run coverage at the next level, however he is a good KR/PR option with alot of upside at WR. (2nd rd)
7. D Williams, 6'1'' 195, USC - His 40 time will effect draft status, good hands and route running ability. seen as a dependable possesion WR. (1st - 3rd rd)
8. A. Benn, 6'2'' 220, Illinois - Appears to have all the tools, some ? about drops and effort but should be a solid to good NFL player. (1st - 3rd rd)
9. Denario Alexander, 6'4'' 215, MU (4.5) - Some ?s about his durability hurt his stock, otherwise would be 1st rd consideration. Was arguably the best WR in college this year. If he stays healthy will be a game changing player. (2nd - 4th rd)
10. Riley Cooper, 6'3'' 215, Florida (4.49) - Could of come out last year. A solid all around WR with good hands. Could be a top performing rookie next year. (2nd - 4th rd)
11. Jordan Shipley, 6'0'' 190, Texas (4.45) - Excellent in the return game, great hands. Looks to me to be a good ST player and posession WR. Needs to run a good 40. (2nd - 3rd rd)
12. Jacoby Ford, 5'9'' 185, Clemson (4.37) - An electrifying player who could be an excellent KR/PR and slot WR. NFL comparison Bess of Miami. (2nd - 4th rd)
13. Eric Decker, 6'3'' 215, Minn (4.5) - An excellent route runner with good hands. Has struggled with injuries throughout his carear. If he can kick the injury bug will be a solid NFL WR. (2nd - 4th rd)
14. Blair White, 6'2'' 205, Mich St (4.5) - Academic All American with 3.89 GPA. 64 reception, 876 receiving yds and 8 TDs this season. (3rd - 5th rd)
15. Freddie Barnes, 6'1'' 206, Bowl Green (4.5) - Amazing senior season, 155 receptions 19TDs and 1770 receiving yds. (looks to be a 4th - 6th rd selection but would not be surprised if he goes as high as the 2nd rd.)
16. Taylor Price, 6'1'' 212, Ohio (4.36) - Ohio All Time receptions leader. 52 receptions, 735 yds, and 5 TDs this year. Looks like a solid prospect. (4th - 6th rd)
17. Andre Roberts, 5'11'' 190, Citadel (4.49) - 2009 Walter Payton Award Finalist. 77 receptions 792 yds, and 8 TDs. Expected to be one of the first sub division players off the board. (3rd - 5th rd)
18. Marcus Easley, 6'2'' 216, UConn (4.4) Led UConn in receptions this year but only had 1 carear reception going into 2009. could get picked late in the draft. (4th - 6th rd)
19. Chris Carter, 6'0'' 195, UC Davis (4.49) - First Team All-Great West in 2008. Had 18 receptions and 190 yds vs Montana this year. (5th - 7th rd)
20. Chris McGaha 6'1'' 193, Ariz St (4.5) - All Pac Ten Second Team 2009, (Coaches), 48 receptions 596 yds and 4 TDs. Looks to be a solid posesion WR. (4th - 6th rd)
The rest after the jump.
21. Aric Arnett, 6'2'' 190, WV ( 4.49) - Big Play potential. played in over 775 plays in 2008. can't find much about 2009 on him. (6th - 7th rd)
22. Emanual Sanders, 5'11'' 182, SMU (4.47) - Holds almost every receiving record at SMU, had 91 receptions, 1215 yds this year both school records. His YAC ability is his #1 attribute and shows the ability to get deep. A player I could see us going for. (5th - 7th rd)
23. Pat Simmonds, 6'6'' 222, Colgate (4.55) - 66 receptions, 1012 yds, and 14 TDs, third WR in school history to place back to back 1,000 receiving yard seasons. First Team All Patriot League. (6th - 7th rd)
24. Shay Hodge, 6'0'' 207, Ole Miss (4.59) - 63 receptions, 1023 yds, 8 TDs. First in the SEC in receiving yds per game at 82.25. Seems to be a really solid player but lacks speed. His 40 time will really effect his draft position. (4th - 7th rd)
25. D. Briscoe 6'3'' 200, KU - Good Hands and solid all around game. Lacks break away speed and would benefit greatly by staying in school one more year. (3rd - 6th rd)
26 T Tolliver, 6'4'' 206, LSU - Repeat the Briscoe statement and add that both these players would be near the top of the 2011 draft and would be better served to stay in school. (3rd - 6th rd)
27. S. Williams, 6'5'' 200, Toledo (4.5) - All MAC First Team. 79 receptions, 1065 yds. Toledos carear receptions and receiving yards leader with 229 receptions and 3102 receiving yds. Could be a steal in the draft. (6th - URFA)
28. B. Banks 5'7'' 154, K State (4.28) - Amazing speed and good return skills off the feild issues hurt stock. (6th - URFA)
29. T. Holliday, 5'5'' 168, LSU (4.27) - Possibly the fastest player in this years draft. Will get drafted to play ST. (5th - 7th rd)
30. D. Reed, 6'0'' 190, Utah, (4.5) 75 receptions 1085 yds, 5 TDs in 2009. This could be a solid pick up for someone late in the draft. (6th - 7th rd)
31. Ajirotutu, 6'3'' 210, Fresno St (4.55) - All WAC Second Team, (Coaches) 48 receptions 671 yds, 7 TDs. Could be a solid posesion WR I don't see him being more than that. (6th - 7th rd)
32. D.Jones, 6'1'' 210, Youngstown St (4.55) - 77 receptions 790 yds, 6 TDs. First Team All MVFC selection. could be a good late rd pick up (6th - 7th rd)
33. K. Tindal, 6'2'' 198, Newberry (4.28) - Amazing speed 2008 First Team All South Atlantic. Not sure what he did in 2009, but has the tools to be agood player. (7th - URFA)
34. D Calhoun, 6'4'' 200, Memphis (4.46) - 2009 All Conferance USA Second Team, and Team MVP. 68 receptions, 923 yds 5 TDs. 49 consecutive games with a reception. School records with 2981 receiving yds carear and 212 receptions. ( 7th - URFA)
35. J. Moturi, 6'0'' 190, UTEP (4.47) - 2007 First Team All Conferance, 2008 and 2009 honerable mention. Consistant performer who could be a solid player. (7th - URFA)
36. M. Marianni, 6'0'' 185, Montana (4.5) - 2009 First Team FCS All American. 5,263 carear all purpose yds, 2,840 receiving yds. 1301 receiving yds this year. This is a solid football player. Will get more out of him then expected. (7th - URFA)
37. E. King, 5'9'' 178, Delta St (4.34) Fast WR who more than likely will not be drafted a good option to bring in for workouts post draft. (URFA)
38. D. Gettis, 6'4'' 215, Baylor (4.47) 2009 Big 12 Honerable mention, (Coaches). Former Track Athlete totaled 52 receptions, 675 yds, and 3 TDs. Had 6 receptions of 40 yds or longer on the season and led the Big 12 with 13 yds per reception. (6th - URFA)
39. J. Stewart, 6'1'' 196, Southern (4.55) - FCS Third Team All American, 2008 First Team All SWAC. 81 receptions, 1028 yds, 11 TDs could be a steal. Stock value could rise with good workouts. (7th - URFA)
There are the Players on my watch list hope that gives you some insight.
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Options I Like as Chief WRs
1 Golden Tate – Weis conection if we trade down or somehow Tate falls to the second rd.
2. D Thomas, GT – Would be worth one of our 2nd rd picks, but not the way I go.
3. Alexander – Is an option with the 3rd rd pick. If he falls all the way to the 4th I take him without a doubt worth the risk.
4. Riley Cooper – I see him a one of the surest picks in the draft as far aas knowing what your going to get. a solid 3rd rd selection bu tworth our 4th rd pick if still on the board.
5. Jordan Shipley – A probable 2nd rd selection. The only way he is worth that pick is if he shows enough speed in his 40 to make me believe he can be a GREAT KR/PR guy ontop of solid slot WR.
6. Freddie Barnes – If he is still on the board come the 5th rd he would be a great pick., but should be gone by the end of the 4th.
7. Andre Roberts, Citadel – Could be a late round GEM, was a Walter Payton Award Finalist.
8. Chris Carter, UC Davis – 18 receptions against Montana who has one of the best Ds in the FBS.
9. Emanual Sanders, SMU – I really like this WR. known for his YAC ability and can get deep. I see him as a good option as he is expected to go somewhere in the 5th – 7th range.
10. Taylor Price – 6’1’’ 212 with 4.3 speed, good hands to go with it. Would really like to se this player in a Chief uniform. If he is on the board in the 5th I take him.
11. Pat Simmonds – 6’6’’ Very Big WR who has produced throughout his college carear could be this years version of Marcus Colston.
12. S. Williams – 6’5’’ All MAC First Teamer and a record breaking WR. Another possible late rd GEM.
13. T. Holliday – 4.2 40 speed on 5’5’’ frame. Only real use is as a returner but will be good at it.
14. K. Tindal – extremly fast player with 6’2’’ height thats about what I know about him.
15. Duke Calhoun – 6’4’’ 200 lbs 4.46 40 speed. Team MVP with school records in receiving yds and receptions. could be a good pick up.
16. J. Moturi – solid performer who fits the mold (consistant)
17. M. Mariani – 2009 FCS First Team All American, Amazing carear stats and a consistant performer.
Personally would like to see Taylor Price first 5th rd pick and one of these three drafted with our last pick. Pat Simmons, S. Williams, or Duke Calhoun.
No Terrell Hudgins?
6’3 235 Elon college
395 career receptions
5250 career rec yards
Dude is a beast!
"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden
by Matt_Grbac on Jan 9, 2010 10:26 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Good addition no missed him you know how many WRs there are to sift through
Terrell Hudgins looks like another late rounder who could have potential. I am sure there are a few more at this point who got left out.
The main thing I was wanting to get out of this is the amount of talanted players out there at WR and that I would rather wait until rd 5 to target WR and hope our scouts are good and pick the right pieces. Every year good WRs come out of the later rds and smaller schools I would rather we target them instead of using one of our top picks on the WR position when we have so many other needs that are not as easily filled. I would much rather a 2nd rd TE or O-Line, NT, S, CB, – WR is the deepest position hardest to nail down locks with and easy to get quality players late. Much harder to get late rd quality at a few other positions.
how many of these are you going too do in one day?
Hate Larry Johnson.
Strong year
for receivers. Maybe one of the top guys will fall to us with our 3rd rd. pick given how much talent there is.
3rd rd is a great place to look for WR help this year, IMO
Really, I think Dez Bryant is the only first-round lock. After him, Gilyard, Tate, Shipley, Thomas, and possibly LaFell and Benn (both overrated, IMO, but big potential players) all look like good bets to at least make runs at the first round. I know some disagree, but I think Briscoe could be a candidate as well. But not all those guys will go in the first, or possibly even the second, leaving maybe a couple of them plus potential steals like Ford, B. White, Decker, Alexander, and Barnes in the third round.
by burntorangehorn on Jan 10, 2010 8:33 PM CST up reply actions
Freddie Barnes would be a steal in the 4th
Kid was the number one option all yr. Every team knew the ball was going to him and could not contain him. He broke the NCAA record in catches….didnt just break it, shattered it. 4.5 speed is not that bad and the kid just gets open. Had an outstanding Bowl game too. 17 catches for 200+ yrds and a couple TDs…..
Who ever the WR. is..... he's got to be a combo...... WR/KR
I may be trippin’ but did Bobby wade ever run back any Punts, or is the only thing he can do is FAIL CATCH.
my list
Tate/Gillyard in the 2nd
OR
Ford/Shipley in the 3rd
OR
Barnes/Price in the 5th
I think you can get a steal with those last 2 in the 5th, if they are there… OR you can have a real “blue chip” player like Tate/Gillyard, but you gotta move in the 2nd.
will be interesting to see how Pioli’s board looks
You're either growing or you're dying, there ain't no third direction
-Big Tom Callahan
If we go WR in the 2nd I push for D. Thomas from GT
then in the 5th or Emanuel Sanders as I think Sanders has potential as a returner.
but would rather Price, Simmonds, Hudgins, Calhoun or Williams to go with him in the 5th. Price with his speed could also be a good KR/PR guy. Any of those five will make an impact in the NFL.
Thanks for the info
The class looks deep. Whoever we draft at WR IMO should have topend speed and be able to return kicks. I voted depending on who is availible in the third. It also makes me glad we have Pioli and his scouts to make this and many other decisions.
David Logue
Shipley!!
I love this kid. He would come in with already the best hands on our team and would make an ideal sure handed, quick slot reciever for cassel. Not to mention he could fill our KR/PR opening. \m/
I like Shipley as a slot as well
But I like Golden Tate better.
Who needs Shipley
when you’ve got Lance Long
Predictions:
Kansas City will not win more than four games in 2009
Kansas City will have a new OC and DC in 2010
Kansas City will win at least seven games in 2010
I think that will ultimately become a fair comparison.
Everyone believes black or white. It's the gray area we argue about.
Is that a good thing or a bad thing?
I want to like Lance, but other than his toughness he hasn’t done anything to impress me.
Predictions:
Kansas City will not win more than four games in 2009
Kansas City will have a new OC and DC in 2010
Kansas City will win at least seven games in 2010
Exactly...
…but (and probably cause I like the dude) I’m not ready to give up on Lance yet. He is one of those players you want to hang on to but you don’t know why.
Everyone believes black or white. It's the gray area we argue about.
I'm not giving up on him, either!
Haley loves him, he’s got a great attitude, and is quick and fast…
he could develop… give him time
You're either growing or you're dying, there ain't no third direction
-Big Tom Callahan
I hoped I was done couting but here we go...
9,676,983 mock drafts. LEMME guess, this isn’t even close to the last one of these is it?
rec’d
this isn't a mock, it's a discussion of the college players available:)
You're either growing or you're dying, there ain't no third direction
-Big Tom Callahan
Don't go talking dipping your finger
When you don’t even know the flavor!! This isn’t a mock draft!! Haha get it together KRAY!!
"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden
by Matt_Grbac on Jan 10, 2010 12:49 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
It depends on if we keep Chambers.
If we retain Chambres then we need to look at a slot receiver, and keep Long on the practice squad. That being said I would love Tate at 2A and Shipley at 3 and maybe even 2B depending on the All Star games and combine.
We need a slot receiver regardless of if we keep Chambers
I think Chambers has played well enough to earn another contract with us and should be our #1 WR unless Bowe really shows improvement over the offseason or grows new hands.
Down the road, we definitely need a #1 WR, but I think we can get by with Chambers, Bowe, and a reliable slot receiver (hoping for Golden Tate).
How many of these players have you personally watched?
I don’t really speculate on players unless I have seen them play with in live-action with my own eyes.
That being said, a receiver I see us most likely to draft has to be Golden Tate if he falls to our first pick in the 2nd round.
At this point, my mock draft is looking like:
1. Rolando McClain – ILB – Alabama
2. Golden Tate – WR – Notre Dame
2. Best interior OL available (OG or C)
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McClain has the Pioli connection with Nick Saban, and I have been speculating for months that that is the way I think Pioli will go. Tate obviously has the Weis connection. And I think both Saban and Weis think very highly of those respective players.
that's a pretty good bet, Nick
I’ve seen a few of these guys, and yeah, I try not to speculate unless I have.
I like McClain, Tate, OL…
I’d also have to take a look at Nate Allen, FS in the 2nd
You're either growing or you're dying, there ain't no third direction
-Big Tom Callahan
I don't know
McClain in first then I would go Norwood and Nate Allen in 2nd. I think Tate is good but I can’t see taking offense in the 1st 3 picks unless it’s oline.
"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden
by Matt_Grbac on Jan 10, 2010 6:11 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I've watched most of them play.
A few I have not but the ones I said I would like to have. I have watched atleast two games that those players were in and effective in.
What
Where do you get all of that footage to watch?
"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden
by Matt_Grbac on Jan 10, 2010 6:26 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
For one I have Tevo and watch as much football as possible I trully love it.
Second the smaller school guys I have seen maybe one or two games total with them in it. I watch all the football I can stand and I NEVER get burned out on FOOTBALL so yes I get yelled at alot for wanting to watch Football 24/7 365 and look up stats whenever I’m not watching it. BUT still I did mention I have not seen ALL of the prospects play.
Wow
Kelton Tindal WR from Newberry College is gonna break Deion Sanders 40yrd dash record at the combine…..this is definately a Raider guy!
"I think with some training and better conditions I could run a 4.15." said Tindal. "If I could run on a track with track shoes I believe I could clock in the low 4.1s."
"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden
by Matt_Grbac on Jan 10, 2010 6:38 PM CST via mobile reply actions
wait a minute
What about Kerry Meier? He’s fairly good at getting open, has a 4.65 40, and he doesn’t drop the freakin’ ball when it’s thrown his way.
226 receptions 2309 yards as a wide receiver in two full years of service
The good thing about hope is that its well never runs dry.
I don't think he has the separation ability for the NFL
could be a situational guy or a 3rd WR/ blocking style WR but that was never his strength. I really don’t see him getting drafted. could be really good in the CFL. wider field he could work the middle and be effective in the CFL. Could be a surprise I guess seems to run fairly good routes that can compensate some for lack of speed.
It's possible he might not be drafted
But really, is he all that different from Brandon Stokely?
I think he’s a pretty good candidate to make the transition to TE, and I think he’d be solid as the second guy in an ace 2-TE set. Meier’s not Dallas Clark, but he’s similar in terms of style of play.
by burntorangehorn on Jan 11, 2010 7:27 AM CST up reply actions
I do see similarities to Clarks game with Meier
But I do not think he has th eblocking ability to run that type of position.
Haley used Urban alot in Arizona.......
….Urban is not a very good blocking TE and with the scheme, he doesn’t have to be. Meier, I think, would translate well into that kind a position but definatly a situational guy. At the worst I think Meier would be a really good special teamer.
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.
by BigRedChief on Jan 11, 2010 11:43 AM CST up reply actions
I can actually agree with that Meier is
a dtermined athlete although his skills are not neccesarily top notched his drive will make him a good ST guy.
Absolutely
I think that even if he’s not drafted, he’s extremely likely to stick on a roster. That’s really all a guy can ask, after all, and he has enough physical ability and drive to do it.
by burntorangehorn on Jan 11, 2010 1:06 PM CST up reply actions
Wait! Stop talking him up cause then someone will draft him and....
….we won’t be able to sign him as an undrafted free agent!
Hey ya know that Kerry Meier? That guy sucks! Someone would have to be a fool to draft him.
Everyone believes black or white. It's the gray area we argue about.
While we're at it, let's talk down Eric Berry and Ndamukong Suh
by burntorangehorn on Jan 11, 2010 1:29 PM CST up reply actions
Who? Those guys must suck cause I've never heard of them.
Everyone believes black or white. It's the gray area we argue about.
I heard they smoked crack with Rolando McClain
by burntorangehorn on Jan 11, 2010 1:41 PM CST up reply actions
Rolando McClain?......
…Didn’t he hold up a liquor store with Golden Tate, Myron Rolle and Russell Okrug?
Everyone believes black or white. It's the gray area we argue about.
With Welkers injury and Moss getting older
There is no way NE lets Edelman go.
Yeah I know, I was just dreaming. Edelman looks like he is a good one though....
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.
by BigRedChief on Jan 11, 2010 11:44 AM CST up reply actions
I understand that....
…but he is a gamer from what I have seen and he does play WR and that is what we are talking about here isn’t it?
Everyone believes black or white. It's the gray area we argue about.
Yeah
I like him alright but just wanted to point it out since Pioli has shown he likes ex-pats that he drafted himself
Like Chris Chambers? Or Lance Long? Or Bobby Wade?
Everyone believes black or white. It's the gray area we argue about.
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