Former Chiefs Coach Herm Edwards Being Linked to the USC Job
by Joel Thorman on Jan 9, 2010 12:49 PM CST
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We've said before that former Kansas City Chiefs head coach Herm Edwards has the necessary qualities to be a helluva recruiter as a college football head coach.
Well, one college job has unofficially opened and Herm's being linked.
It's been reported by just about every major sports media outlet that Pete Carroll will be making his way to the Seattle Seahawks as their head coach. And with the opening that will create at Southern Cal, Herm Edwards could be a candidate for the position.
I just caught Shelley Smith link Herm's name to the SC job (assuming it becomes available) as a candidate. Chris Mortensen also said on ESPN Radio today that a source tells him USC will take a look at Herm.
You could make a decent argument that the USC job is better than a handful of NFL jobs (including, at the present, the Chiefs job).
It's the unofficial (non-)professional franchise in the country's second biggest media market so the exposure is there. Heck, Carroll is reportedly signing a $35 million contract with the Seahawks because of his work at USC.
The beach is close. California is one of the top three recruiting states for college football. The money is good (Carroll was reportedly getting $4.5 million per year, which is is more than Herm was getting in Kansas City).
As of now, it's just speculation and conjecture on the part of the media folks but he does make sense as a college head coach.
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I think Herm would be a lot better in college. He’s got an eye for talent and could build a team at USC I think. Would he be a good fit for USC? I think so, if Pete indeed does go to Seattle. Now it just depends if we wants to leave the studio.
"Charles In Charge"
"Defense Wins Championships"
Not "no"
“Hell No! "
I’m not a huge SC fan (I do like Carroll) but why ya wanna ruin a steady pipeline of well coached talent to the NFL?
Coaching is a little overrated in College Football...
Pete Carrol runs some of the most Vanilla offenses and defenses in the game, he just has superior talent… So if Herm can recruit as well as Pete then it stands to believe that he will do well there.
And you can not honestly tell me that there are many more stand up respectable people that can go into a kids house and guarantee parents that he will take their kids and turn them into men.
"Readin's don't never not dun nuthin' for not nobody!" ---Early Cuyler
by averagegatsby on Jan 9, 2010 1:14 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
I agree
Carroll can coach defense but apart from that he’s not that good of a head coach. He’s been blessed with ridiculous talent and I think he’ll flop in the pros. He was mediocre his first time around and I don’t see him much different and in fact, might be worse since Seattle is old and is on the verge of undergoing a major rebuild.
"and guarantee parents that he will take their kids and turn them into men."
That’s the folks of the kids job. A football coaches main function is to turn them in to football players.
Sick to death of hearin what a stand up guy herm is…Sooo F’n what???
Well, it's relevant in this situation
Whether you want to believe it or not (apparently you don’t), the parents of these kids are a large part of the equation and many parents will feel comfortable putting their kids in Herm’s hands because he’s a good guy.
some
but more would want their kid to be as well coached as possible to get a shot at the NFL.
herm never has been and never will be a good head coach, he could help a college team as a position coach, that is his limits.
Except Carrol isn't that great a coach, he's a really good coach, but not great
USC wins on talent not scheme. Carrol wouldn’t have the same success at a school where he couldn’t recruit like that.
"Readin's don't never not dun nuthin' for not nobody!" ---Early Cuyler
by averagegatsby on Jan 9, 2010 1:42 PM CST up reply actions
still beats herm
herm’s not even average. Carroll will be workin as a coach long after herms run outta cliches to spew.
Carrol was a terrible NFL coach...
What makes you think Herm couldn’t follow the same career path
"Readin's don't never not dun nuthin' for not nobody!" ---Early Cuyler
by averagegatsby on Jan 9, 2010 1:48 PM CST up reply actions
excellent analysis there
Im sure they were saying the same thing about Pete 8 years ago or so
"Readin's don't never not dun nuthin' for not nobody!" ---Early Cuyler
by averagegatsby on Jan 9, 2010 1:49 PM CST up reply actions
what?
Fact isn’t convincing enough for you?
You made the statement that Herm is dumb...
that is opinion, not fact
"Readin's don't never not dun nuthin' for not nobody!" ---Early Cuyler
by averagegatsby on Jan 9, 2010 1:53 PM CST up reply actions
it's a fact
if one is not to dumb to see evidence in a what 6-7 yr head coaching career. FAILED he won’t be at SC no way in hell, not as head coach!!
Uhh
Herm failed in the NFL so he would be a bad coach for SC.
Carroll failed in the NFL but he is a great coach for SC.
See why we’re confused about your statements? You’re using your personal opinion of Herm, with no factual basis, against him.
"factual basis"
herm’s record as a Coach in the NFL, 54-74, Win % .422, Post Season 2- 4 , Win % .333
Carroll’s Record, 33- 31, Win % .516, Post Season 1 -2 Win % .333
Add this… Patriots owner Robert Kraft said firing Carroll was one of the toughest decisions he has had to make since buying the team, stating “A lot of things were going on that made it difficult for him to stay, some of which were out of his control. And it began with following a legend.”
And this needs to be remembered too, The Jets got off to a 6–4 start under Carroll, but in week 12, he was the victim of Dan Marino’s “clock play” that led to a Miami Dolphins game winning touchdown, Jets lost there remaining games.That could have happened to any Coach
Exactly...
Carrol took over for a legend who left him a great team, and they slowly got worse.
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by averagegatsby on Jan 9, 2010 4:57 PM CST up reply actions
you're saying that ANY coach would have allowed his team to lose ...
SIX games in a row … because of ONE play?
no … I don’t think so … not even close
not even Herm
and if you look at Carroll’s records at NE they got progressively worse each year … not sure how you can use that as a “claim” that Carroll was a better NFL coach … but you go right ahead in your delusional thinking and enjoy it while you can
hi, Mo!
5 minutes!!!
sorry, johhny ... but "name calling" at a sophomoric level has nothing to do with "facts"
hi, Mo!
5 minutes!!!
John, your attitude in this thread is exactly what the site admins advise against. If you have a point to argue, argue it. But this whole snarky thing you’ve got going here doesn’t tend to fly here for long.
by Tadpui on Jan 9, 2010 7:48 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
you ... referring to Herm Edwards as "dumb"
my name here is … up a mountain … abbreviated
as for using “johnny” in reference to you, simply using lower case to show my eminent respect, as I can only assume you do with Herm Edwards (personally, I prefer to use caps for proper names … I learned that in English class)
hi, Mo!
5 minutes!!!
upamtn, nice to see you back posting.
You know, as much as I detested Herm’s non-coaching at this level, I think his personality strengths make him a good fit for the NFL. Plus, he’s a Cali boy by birth…
I don’t see much of a change in SC’s schemes either (Cover-2 with blitzes on D, a watered down “West Coast” on O). Once SC lost Norm Chow they seemed to go away from being a “downfield” team…
Herm could have success there.
"You've only got 10 fingers to stick in the dike. Is there a breaking point that pushes you over the edge?...Where's the limit?"
-Marty Schottenheimer
"good fit for the NCAA"
Not NFL. Ugh.
"You've only got 10 fingers to stick in the dike. Is there a breaking point that pushes you over the edge?...Where's the limit?"
-Marty Schottenheimer
thanks, go ... you're a good man and I both respect and appreciate your posts
even if/when we disagree … you’re the epitome of class
(don’t tell kray I said that, he’ll get all jealous)
hi, Mo!
5 minutes!!!
would you like to compare Carrol's pro career
to herms?
I didn’t think so!
As a matter of fact I would...
Carrol inherits a team in NE takes them to playoffs first year they spiral downward after…
Herm inherits a team in KC takes them to playoffs first year they spiral downward after…
You are totally right, no comparison there
"Readin's don't never not dun nuthin' for not nobody!" ---Early Cuyler
by averagegatsby on Jan 9, 2010 2:42 PM CST up reply actions
Carroll was an average NFL coach
33-31 overall; 6-10 with the Jets and 27-21 with the Pats.
Herm on the other hand was 54-74 overall. 39-41 with the Jets and 15-33 with the Chiefs.
Carroll might be doing jail time before he coaches again ...
USC is so corrupt I’ll be shocked if they aren’t on probabtion ny NCAA before next fall … Reggie Bush and all he did, and others … and all sanctioned by Carroll
*U*niversity of
*S*poiled
*C*hildren
hi, Mo!
5 minutes!!!
Except...
Breaking NCAA rules isn’t breaking the Law. He may actually be leaving the coaching game before he loses his job.
"Readin's don't never not dun nuthin' for not nobody!" ---Early Cuyler
by averagegatsby on Jan 9, 2010 1:50 PM CST up reply actions
Agree with that gats!
I didn’t know there were any recruiting issues at SC, other than the Bush thing.
My thought is he realizes he can’t keep a team together long enough now to repeat his past successes, too many underclassmen leaving early now for the NFL. Either way he smart enough to know when to move on.
Its not just that..
there is a certain amount of arrogance that comes with being such a highly touted recruit. And when you have a lot of those types at USC there is going to be a sort of pack mentality, kinda like Miami, the difference is that LA is much more laid back than Miami.
Just about any coach is going to have problems corralling such a group of people.
"Readin's don't never not dun nuthin' for not nobody!" ---Early Cuyler
by averagegatsby on Jan 9, 2010 2:44 PM CST up reply actions
I could see this as being something Herm sees as a challenge.
Honestly, with Bush, the basketball team, and the McKnight situation there USC is looking at some cold water. I could see a guy like Herm wanting to/feeling like it’s his duty to come in and help save a storied program.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
Well
Herm took the Jets to the playoffs 3 out of 5 years and took us 1 of 3….then started a rebuild. Herm is a pretty decent coach! He made the best with what he had.
"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden
by Matt_Grbac on Jan 9, 2010 1:49 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
oh god
at least be mildly interesting in your argument, that one is wore plumb smooth. It’ was a FLUKE, other coaches leftovers that got him there.
johnny, your insight is as refreshing as spoiled milk on a hot day
hi, Mo!
5 minutes!!!
by upamtn on Jan 9, 2010 1:52 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
yeah, pam glad we agree
much like your herm took other teams to da pwayosfs.
Oh sorry
Cuz Herm is dumb is really interesting!
"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden
by Matt_Grbac on Jan 9, 2010 1:53 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Whatever works
I’m sure he’ll be great anywhere outside of Arrowhead. I could survive without Seeing his “analytical” advice on ESPN. Ever. Again.
by CO_ChiefJordan on Jan 9, 2010 1:45 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Whatever works
I’m sure he’ll be great anywhere outside of Arrowhead. I could survive without Seeing his “analytical” advice on ESPN. Ever. Again.
by CO_ChiefJordan on Jan 9, 2010 1:45 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Three piece
His suit and ties I will admit have definitely been above average as his tenure on ESPN has progressed. That’s about all he had going though.
by CO_ChiefJordan on Jan 9, 2010 1:47 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
so f'n what is that the kids are KIDS ... who play football ...
the job of a college coach isn’t to turn them into football players, johnny … they do that already, play football
you seem to think the function of a universtiy football program is to churn out NFL players … no, dude, less than a handfull will every make it to the pros … but 100% of those kids WILL leave that university, that sheltered setting, and be involved in what we call LIFE
so, johnny, you might be
Sick to death of hearin what a stand up guy herm isbut any parent who cares about his/her kid would jump at the chance to have their kid mentored and coached by Herm Edwards
see, it really IS more than just football … it’s LIFE, dude … deal with it!
hi, Mo!
5 minutes!!!
some truth there Pam
but the top recruits wanna win, and their Folks want them to win
You are confusing good recruiting with good coaching...
My argument is that Herm is a likeable guy (Like Pete) and that Parents will trust him, USC is a hotbed of athletic talent, so its not that inconceivable to think he could be a lights out recruiter. And since most college teams win on talent and not scheme, if Herm can recruit he will win.
"Readin's don't never not dun nuthin' for not nobody!" ---Early Cuyler
by averagegatsby on Jan 9, 2010 1:52 PM CST up reply actions
LSU is in the SEC
where you need both, that isn’t the case in the Pac 10
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by averagegatsby on Jan 10, 2010 10:47 AM CST up reply actions
good coaching
not sure that carroll is a much better gameday coach than herm was/is… plenty of Pac-10 letdowns and bonehead calls to his credit. if SC had a decent coach with all that player talent i don’t think they’d lose more than once every two years.
hell of a recruiter, but i guess we’ll see how much of that was pete and how much was USC throwing money cars and “companionship” at recruits. if SC gets penalized i guess herm would be a good “character” guy to clean house?
"see, it really IS more than just football … it’s LIFE, dude … "
I think some of it would be positional.
For example, if my son is a promising CB, I have no problem with Herm.
But, if I think my son has a legitimate shot at being an NFL starting QB, there is no way Herm would be my choice.
Predictions:
1) Fans will feel just scads better from mid-to-end of the 2010 season.
2) During the 2021 season, Ryan Succop will become the Chiefs’ all-time leading scorer with 1469 points.
Dove - are you saying football is more important than character?
just wondering about the prioities … and not being judgemental (yet)
hi, Mo!
5 minutes!!!
Instilling character is the parents’ job
And character should be in place prior to starting college. If it isn’t, good luck trying to get it there at that point, no matter who his freaking college football coach is. And oh yeah…he’s a FOOTBALL COACH.
Predictions:
1) Fans will feel just scads better from mid-to-end of the 2010 season.
2) During the 2021 season, Ryan Succop will become the Chiefs’ all-time leading scorer with 1469 points.
I think Carroll will flop (again) in the NFL.
In recent years, the college head coaches signed as NFL head coaches have been busts of extraordinary magnitude.
Toby is in HR, which technically means he works for corporate, so he's really not a part of our family. Also, he's divorced, so he's really not a part of his family.
I agree...
but for different reasons. Carrol unlike Spurrier, Patrino, and some of the other guys has an NFL coaching background.
Like I said previously the biggest reason why Pete won at USC is because he is in the middle of a hotbed of recruiting talent, and he is a really charismatic likable guy. Pete won on talent not schemes.
"Readin's don't never not dun nuthin' for not nobody!" ---Early Cuyler
by averagegatsby on Jan 9, 2010 2:46 PM CST up reply actions
I've met Pete twice and I can attest to what you say: He came off as a great guy.
Toby is in HR, which technically means he works for corporate, so he's really not a part of our family. Also, he's divorced, so he's really not a part of his family.
well said, gats, and rec'd ... Herm Edwards is one of the most "stand up" guys around
hi, Mo!
5 minutes!!!
You are agreeing with me WAAAAY to much today
"Readin's don't never not dun nuthin' for not nobody!" ---Early Cuyler
by averagegatsby on Jan 9, 2010 1:42 PM CST up reply actions
I haven't agreed this much with upamtn in...ever.
But we’re on the same page here.
"You've only got 10 fingers to stick in the dike. Is there a breaking point that pushes you over the edge?...Where's the limit?"
-Marty Schottenheimer
Herm would be great with young kids..
He is a good motivator and can connect with kids….I just think that in the NFL, with older veterans, some of the off the wall shit that comes out of his mouth , guys look at him like he is nuts.
Who knows
Herm’s heart seems to be in the NFL where he played for and coached in for years.
I think if the money is right and he could develop a relationship with the AD, it could work.
Herm obviously likes young players…he would be in heaven with the talent he could recruit to USC. What young player wouldn’t want to play for the ultimate players coach?
I really like Herm, always have….I wish him all the best in whatever he chooses.
"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden
by Matt_Grbac on Jan 9, 2010 1:25 PM CST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
Well put; you took the words right out of my mouth.
"You've only got 10 fingers to stick in the dike. Is there a breaking point that pushes you over the edge?...Where's the limit?"
-Marty Schottenheimer
LOL--just not so fast I choke.
Gotta make sure that life insurance is paid up :P
"You've only got 10 fingers to stick in the dike. Is there a breaking point that pushes you over the edge?...Where's the limit?"
-Marty Schottenheimer
by go_saleaumua on Jan 9, 2010 11:48 PM CST up reply actions
Heh. Judging by his comments, Herm expects 2 wins a year from college players.
Prediction for '09: Chiefs are looking like a .500 team, especially considering Denver's inattention to D-Line, Chokeland's disarray, and a San Diego team that looks like it's on the decline. With a weak schedule, Chiefs steal a few and win between 7 and 9 games, and if .500 or better, will contend for supremacy in a weak division.
Sorry to all you USC Fans, but I'm all for him coaching there.
Or anywhere for that matter, as it’ll get him off the television talking about KC.
well damn ... I did NOT mean to vote no there ... meant to look at poll results, actually
but I think Herm would be a good HC at USC or any university
hi, Mo!
5 minutes!!!
My Cal alum brother was hoping Herm would replace Tedford...
Herm would be a perfect college coach. Parents would love him and he could identify with California’s black youths. He’d have no trouble maintaining the pipeline of California talent that runs into SC.
by HIV 2 Elway on Jan 9, 2010 1:43 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
Herm is great with developing character in young adults, and in spotting talent.
I am a Chief’s fan, and , of course wasn’t pleased with Herm’s overall performance at KC. I don’t see him as a real good game day coach, but he is one of the best at working with young people, developing character, and spotting talent. The corps group of the Chiefs are still his draft choices, and who will be built around, as the team progresses. I think the Chief’s needed a disciplinarian, but coaches like Dungy, who never hardly raises his voice, but demands respect, also can be very effective. If Herm surrounds himself with good coordinators, to handle the X’s and O’s, and he focuses more on recruiting and developing the players, he could be very succesfull at USC, and the parents of the kids will love him, as he will stress personal responsibility, on and off the field, and also college being also to get a degree.
Racy - I agree Herm was a lousy game manager
wish he’d stayed on, but with a gameday assistant … he really is excellent at spotting talent (especially on D side) and working with kids
should he have been “tougher” with them? maybe …
hi, Mo!
5 minutes!!!
I'll say without a doubt if this scenario were to happen...
Herm will have more success at USC then Carroll will have in Seattle.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
This whole thing of Seattle
hiring a Coach before a GM makes no sense to me any way, so that’s not really a risky prediction. In fact when I first heard this, I figured Seattle was gonna give Carroll a shot at a GM position, but….
yeah it kinda shows how much control the GM is really going to have doesnt it
I mean if he doesnt even get to choose who he wants as head coach, I dont think the GM is going to have control over anything there, unless they are going to offer Carroll both HC and GM positions.
They may not have a GM specifically
But maybe more of a position like Pioli was in New England. I thought I heard(and maybe heard wrong) that Carroll would be coach and have control over personel decisions.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
Carroll's destined to be Team President and HC, if profootballtalk.com is correct.
Hmm. We’ll see if the “rah rah” thing works on the West Coast, like it did in the Northeast….
/chuckles
"You've only got 10 fingers to stick in the dike. Is there a breaking point that pushes you over the edge?...Where's the limit?"
-Marty Schottenheimer
Christ man!
Chiefs fans have a fit over Haley being the HC, OC and QBC can’t imagine being GM and HC! Didn’t work out to well for Holmgren, wouldn’t think they’d wanna try that again but maybe.
Looks like Paul Allen has a hard time learning lessons, because that's EXACTLY what he gave to Holmgren in the late 90's...
…and it’s happening again, with a potentially less qualified candidate.
Carroll should’ve stayed in college.
"You've only got 10 fingers to stick in the dike. Is there a breaking point that pushes you over the edge?...Where's the limit?"
-Marty Schottenheimer
Parcells?
"Readin's don't never not dun nuthin' for not nobody!" ---Early Cuyler
by averagegatsby on Jan 9, 2010 2:47 PM CST up reply actions
Jets
I think he had full control there and a pretty good handful of seasons.
He left NE because he didn’t have enough to in personnel (which is here the famous line comes from: “If they want you to cook the dinner, at least they ought to let you shop for some of the groceries.”)…then I’m pretty sure he had control in New York.
I think he was also the unofficial GM in Dallas.
Most of the guys that were brought in were Parcells guys, and not Jerry Guys
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by averagegatsby on Jan 9, 2010 4:58 PM CST up reply actions
I agree--that's a good example.
But there’s a hundred others that show that HC/GM’s run into trouble, too. Not every coach has the head for personnel that Parcells had.
I wonder if Carroll’s going to be the evaluator he needs to be….and I still suspect that his routine may wear thin quickly on NFL players. But I could be wrong here.
"You've only got 10 fingers to stick in the dike. Is there a breaking point that pushes you over the edge?...Where's the limit?"
-Marty Schottenheimer
by go_saleaumua on Jan 9, 2010 11:51 PM CST up reply actions
This may be a good fit for Herm.
God knows the guy can talk. He’s a sharp looking, well spoken person that would probably be able to work the living room like nobody’s business. However, he will have to be a much stricter disciplinarian with college kids (the USC campus is in a not so great area of the city) than he was with the Chiefs.
Toby is in HR, which technically means he works for corporate, so he's really not a part of our family. Also, he's divorced, so he's really not a part of his family.
I don't claim to be a college football aficionado or anything
But after three years here he basically had a college team that had no QB and a defense setting an NFL record in the wrong direction. I’m not sure last year’s Chiefs would have been that great even at a college level.
I will say that Herm is good at coaching teams assembled by previous coaches (kinda like Norv Turner at the moment).
I think he has a better chance for success than he did in the NFL, but I’d still put his odds of success at maybe 50/50.
Predictions:
1) Fans will feel just scads better from mid-to-end of the 2010 season.
2) During the 2021 season, Ryan Succop will become the Chiefs’ all-time leading scorer with 1469 points.
I, like a number of people here apparently, decide a couple of years ago that Herm would be a good college coach
I don’t know if he will be great or not. Herm only real strength in the NFL was motivation. In college he can both recruit and motivate. I don’t think he is the great talent evaluator that a number of people have stated they think he is. Secondary sure. Beyond that, probably passable. His real strengths will be that he will probably run a pro style offense, has connections to the pros, will get players to play hard, and recruit just about anyone he wants. However, if I was USC . . . I wouldn’t hire him. I would hire a college coach that has had success. Herm should have to start at a little lower profile place to see if he really can do it at the college level.
I have always believed
Herm would make a much better college coach. The message he preaches about pererverance, staying positive…all things to help young men become grown men. Who better than Herm could turn a dirty program into a clean one? Not sure if SC is the place for him but he should be a college coach somewhere, for sure.
Just like novocaine. give it time; always works..
The greater the fall, the grander the ascention..
by be cee on Jan 9, 2010 3:41 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Makes a lot of sense
I think Herm would be a fantastic college coach where recruiting is more important than coaching abillity
I don't want no Yo-Yos
I actually like it
I think it’s where he needs to be.
Braccae illae virides cum subucula rosea et tunica Caledonia-quam elenganter concinnatur!
Death Knell for USC.
Not that there’s anything wrong with that.
Air Cassel - approved for takeoff
Always in motion is the future.
-- Yoda
Herm would have to....
run the Tampa Two defense and hire Chan Galey as OC to run the Pistol offense.
Hey, it might work.
Brodie's better than Cassel
In the colegiate ranks
I think it would
Braccae illae virides cum subucula rosea et tunica Caledonia-quam elenganter concinnatur!
So he'd keep the current SC defense...
And go back to what Chow was running for Carson Palmer, right? A little bit?
Again—Herm to SC could work. In fact he might do better at USC than Carroll in Seattle.
"You've only got 10 fingers to stick in the dike. Is there a breaking point that pushes you over the edge?...Where's the limit?"
-Marty Schottenheimer
by go_saleaumua on Jan 9, 2010 11:53 PM CST up reply actions
Herms actually the first guy I thought of
I think he could do very well in the NCAA.. The Tampa two would work well given the wealth of talent SC has at LB year in and year out
KRRRAKATAWAA
I voted no.
Herm might be a good guy, and could be an excellent recruiter, but keep in mind Charlie Weis pulled some great recruiting classes at Notre Dame. We all saw how that turned out. It’s not all about the talent you bring in…you still have to be able to coach it to success.
Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha!
Every fan in the PAC-10 must be rooting for this right now.
Evaluator of talent? You are kidding, right? Medlock over Crosby…start there.
Neuheisel must be sending buckets of money to Mike Garrett. Sarkisian is giving him rave reviews. Harbaugh can’t wait for the game. And who is going to send his kid to play for this guy? Hello?
What a joke.
He has reached his peak on TV.
Surprised nobody mentioned it yet,
but when I first heard Carroll leaving my first thought was Mike Leach. Though like I said earlier, Carroll might be leaving at the right time knowing some type of sanctions/overview are coming and that’s a situation that would fit a guy like Herm.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
I think Mike Leach has the potential for being a dumpster fire...
At Texas Tech with his C level recruits he has much more the upperhand, but at SC with the elite of the elite would they put up with his Shenanigans?
Dedicating my life to bankrupting HP, and running their name into the ground... FUCK HP!!!
by averagegatsby on Jan 10, 2010 10:49 AM CST up reply actions
NOOOOoooOOoo......
He’s wrecked every team he’s touched!
If Herms going back to coaching let him coach is Alma Mater….San Diego St., before considering him for a Pac 10 team. Especially my Trojans!
Opinions are like A--holes, everyones got one.
Class A loser
Herm is a class A loser. Every team he has coached has gotten worse. If USC wants to become a loser and the laughing stock of the NCAA DIV I football by all means hire him. He will more than adequately do the job of making USC a loser with class and dignity.
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