A Look at the Prospects (pre workouts QB)
by kcchiefstd on Jan 8, 2010 4:11 PM CST
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I am going to give a look at the prospects this year at every position one per day starting today with QB.
This is MY watch list and order I have players ranked. Will put where they are EXPECTED to go as far as rd.
1 Tim Tebow, 6'3'' 245, Florida - Doubters can say what they want but Tebow has proven he is a winner and will be succesful in the NFL. (mid 1st)
2 Dan Lefevour, 6'3'' 238, Cent Mich - My #2 ranked QB can do it all, has good arm strength and accuracy, (Great Stats), good athlete who can make plays with his legs. Has the ability to make plays when nothing is there or atleast get rid of the ball. (rd 2 - 4 )
3 Jimmy Clausen, 6'2'' 223, ND - A solid pocket QB with average NFL ability. Will be a first rd pick.
4 Hiller, 6'4'' 234, West Mich - Could be a steal in the draft or move up boards rapidly once workouts begin. Very Smart, Owns ALL of Western Michigans passing records. (4th - 7th rd unless workouts move him up)
5 Sam Bradford, 6'4'' 223, Okl - DURABILITY, I have only seen him get hit a few times and he could not handle it. (Croyle) (1st - 3rd rd.)
6 Colt McCoy 6'2'' 212, Tex - Avg Arm strength accurate passer, Good athlete. Average starter material or Drew Brees type is ?, (Late 1st - Mid 2nd)
7 Tony Pike, 6'6'' 226, Cincy - Good pocket passer ala Flacco with durability ?. falls because of that. (2nd-4th)
8. Perrilloux, 6'2'' 228, Jax St - At one point would of been 1st rd prospect, before the LSU incident. MAJOR upside could be a solid NFL starter maybe even great. Someone will take a chance on him in the later rds. (6th or 7th rd pick with first day ability)
9 Webb, 6'4'' 220, UAB - Only player in NCAA history at the top level to throw for 2,000 yds and rush for 1,000 yds in consecutive seasons. could be a late rd stud.
10 Armanti Edwards, 5'11'' 185, App St - Duel Position player, Undersized for the QB position, but has adequate skill, can also be used as WR/KR/PR or Wildcat/Situational QB. Will be an assett to whoever gets him.
11 John Skelton, 6'5'' 256, Fordham - ? Prototypical Size with good stats. (projected 4th-7th rd pick up).
The rest I see as carear backups or not in the NFL at all.
12 Crompton, 6'3'' 228, Tenn
13 Brown, 6'3'' 223, WV
14 Max Hall, 6'1'' 202, BYU
15. Stull, 6'3'' 215, Pitt
16. Canfield, 6'4'' 215, Ore St
17. Kafka, 6'3'' 220, Northwestern.
I know QB is not a need for us and with potential of Croyle being here as backup pretty high we are not in the market for a QB. I would still like input on this years QB class who is going to be good that sort of discussion. Wether you agree with my rankings more or some of the experts.
To me the most interesting positions will be WR, O-Line(OG/C), OLB, CB, and S. but lets keep this one focused on QBs.
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Im sorry
But I highly doubt Tebow goes in the first round.
No way he is the #1 QB on any teams first round
"I’d go to battle with him every day of the week." Todd Haley on Matt Cassel
This statement is why I am on the Cassel train, drinkin the Kool-Aid!
I approve of this list :)
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by craig in calgary on Jan 8, 2010 4:18 PM CST via mobile reply actions
thx, ALOT of study and watching football went into it.
reading player profiles looking at stats, games I watched, I put all that into consideration.
Clausen will most likely be the first QB taken and should be
If Tebow gets the right system I can seem him being moderately successful but not a superstar
What the world needs is more geniuses with humility, there are so few of us left.
I agree he is the closest to a lock there is this year to be a solid starter.
But if Risk/Reward comes into play he may not go first.
No love for Todd Reesing?
"The way this works is you string together some good games, some good practices and you get momentum and you gain confidence," linebacker Mike Vrabel said. "It can be a real positive for your team. It builds on itself."
No just like Chase Daniel last year his senior year he went backwards
already fighting the size issue I doubt he gets drafted but could add him directly to the bottom of the list.
That's OK
I’m sure he’ll go undrafted. He had a great year when they won the Orange Bowl though.
"The way this works is you string together some good games, some good practices and you get momentum and you gain confidence," linebacker Mike Vrabel said. "It can be a real positive for your team. It builds on itself."
It would be interesting to see more than a one line opinion on these guys
Especially the ones from the smaller schools that I’ve never heard of, like Central Michagan, Eastern Michagan, West Canaan High School, etc.
"The way this works is you string together some good games, some good practices and you get momentum and you gain confidence," linebacker Mike Vrabel said. "It can be a real positive for your team. It builds on itself."
As for the smaller schoold guys
Skelton, Webb, and Hiller I don’t know a whole lot about just going off of what I know witch is the stats and scouting reports. I am waiting myself to see these guys workout.
Armanti Edwards i made a complete post about on here awhile ago, because I am a fan of his.
Tebow, Clausen, McCoy and Bradford. Most people I would assume have their own opinions about these players and have heard all the talk about them already.
Lefevour
Well I could go on and on about him but the Chiefs are not in the market for a QB so I will not say a whole lot except if I was looking for a QB in this draft Lefevour is who I would take.
Wait for the draft to end
At least ONE of these guys will go unsigned. Bring em in for a workout and see where it goes. Not worth using a point on the QB position when we have a decent starter and backup
Jimmy Clausen - I think Jimmy will be given the most chances to suceed but mostly won't.
Clot McCoy – I don’t know why I but I get this feeling that Colt McCoy is not going anywhere. Dude is a gamer and seems to make plays alot. I think he will catch on with a team that can utilize his skilld fully. Felt bad for him in the National Championship game.
Sam Bradford – I think Sam is getting a bad rap for being injury prone. He had a pretty severe injury the first time he was out and the second time he just tried to rush back to soon. Other than that he has been a pretty dependable QB. That said, I don’t think he his pro career will be as spectacular as his college career was.
Perrilloux – I’m sorry but I see Ryan as JaMarcus Russell without the weight and the brain. He is destined to be out of football in 2 years.
Kafka – I like Kafka if he can reel in the decision making, he threw way to many pick in his bowl game, 78 attempts or not. He has solid size and he attended Northwestern so he does have the ability to learn.
Dan Lefevour – The Underdog. I want to see Dan suceed, I really do but I just don’t see it happening. A guy like Dan comes around every couple of years and nothing seems to come from it. This is one case that I hope I am wrong.
Everyone else is destined to backup status and practice squad in my opinion.
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.
Tony Pike.
If this guy’s 6’6’’ and you’re comparing him to Flacco, then I’m impressed, right there. Thing is, Flacco’s a pretty complete package. He can make all the throws and he has feet So, a 6’6" guy with feet is a franchise player.
Funny thing, though, I think you’re kind of puttin’ the guy down, by sayin’ he’s only a Flacco.
You give Flacco Fitzgerald and Boldin, and you have a world-beater offense. Nothin’ against Derrick Mason, but yeah, somethin’ against Mason, who’s a guy very close to the irrelevancy of a post-49ers-Jerry-Rice. (As I duck). I don’t know if y’all realize it, but Flacco is one of the best QBs to come down the pike (Heh) in quite a while. Heh. Mark my words I sez,in my most pomous and portentous voice. Pair him up with some great young wideouts, keep buildin’ on whatcha started with Oher, and get somebody half as good as Ray-Ray to take his place, and you have a legit contendah.
Prediction for '09: Chiefs are looking like a .500 team, especially considering Denver's inattention to D-Line, Chokeland's disarray, and a San Diego team that looks like it's on the decline. With a weak schedule, Chiefs steal a few and win between 7 and 9 games, and if .500 or better, will contend for supremacy in a weak division.
Heh. "pomous" = "pompous"
The perfect, most fitting word to spell wrong, right when you’re tryin’ ta be emphatic. Grade: F.
Prediction for '09: Chiefs are looking like a .500 team, especially considering Denver's inattention to D-Line, Chokeland's disarray, and a San Diego team that looks like it's on the decline. With a weak schedule, Chiefs steal a few and win between 7 and 9 games, and if .500 or better, will contend for supremacy in a weak division.
Pike has ALL the tools Flacco does
But he has BROKEN his left forearm twice already. He looks alot like Flacco when he plays to. The guy does have Franchise QB potential but is an injury risk.
OK.
Prediction for '09: Chiefs are looking like a .500 team, especially considering Denver's inattention to D-Line, Chokeland's disarray, and a San Diego team that looks like it's on the decline. With a weak schedule, Chiefs steal a few and win between 7 and 9 games, and if .500 or better, will contend for supremacy in a weak division.
I would like a developemental QB
Weis will decide on if what he has is what he wants. I like Pike for that but Snead could be a good one too. Who knows
"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli
No respect
For my boy Daryll Clark from Penn St?
He is the definition of a true leader. This guy will make it in the league, maybe as a backup but he will make it and I would love to have him….
Here is a little story on him…
http://archives.chicagotribune.com/2009/dec/06/sports/chi-06-silver-football-dec06
"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden
by Matt_Grbac on Jan 9, 2010 9:17 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Daryll Clark
He is definatly a leader. Avg Arm strength, avg accuracy, Those two combined he doesn’t get drafted. The chance comes with his athletic ability, alot like Thigpen. If he gets a shot in the NFL it will probably be at RB, or WR.
I am a Daryll Clark fan, that is not a bashing comment.
Clark = Reesing = Brown = Max Hall. All right on the bubble could be brought on as developmental guys, nothing jumps out and say they will be succesful at the next level.
I beg to differ
Daryll Clark is a poor mans Tim Tebow….
Just watch this video…..its a great testiment to Daryll Clark the player and the man.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tm_0vZURFKQ
"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden
If you want a great sleeper QB
then look up University of South Dakota QB Noah Shepard. He has NFL size at 6’2’’ and about 230 lbs (although he is listed at 215) and has a very low body fat percentage. Shepard completed 188 of 297 (63.3%) for 21 TD’s and 10 Int’s with a QB efficiency rating of 149.2. He also ran 114 times for 500 yards and 13 TD’s. I can confirm that several NFL scouts have been looking at him.
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