Weis on Chiefs: 'This is Todd's ship, I'm just here to help guide it'
by Joel Thorman on Jan 8, 2010 12:21 PM CST
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PrintThe Kansas City Chiefs made official today what we've known since the middle of the week: Charlie Weis will be the new offensive coordinator.
Weis met with the media this afternoon and calmed some fears out there on his ability to work with Chiefs head coach Todd Haley.
One concern Jason Whitlock of the Kansas City Star brought up was the ability for these two to work together. Last time they were together, Weis was the upper level coach and Haley was just a scouting assistant causing some to wonder how the relationship would work when the tables are turned.
According to Weis, they've hashed out any potential problems they might have. "That was the first issue we had to get settled," Weis said according to Kent Babb of the Kansas City Star. "Ten years ago, it might have been a different situation."
Another question mark entering this marriage was whether Weis was using the Chiefs coordinator job as a stepping stone to potentially becoming the head coach if Haley flames out. Not so, says Weis.
"That's the furthest thing from my mind right now. I want to help the Kansas City Chiefs get better," he said.
Haley and Weis both cited "fit" as the biggest reason this thing got worked out. Haley said it was "so right on the money" while Weis said he knew in early December that Kansas City would be "one of the teams on his radar." However, the two sides did not speak about joining the Chiefs until after the Denver game.
"It's Todd's ship, and I just want to be there to help guide it."
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fantastic
that’s exactly what you want to hear.
Now, let’s see what they can DO
You're either growing or you're dying, there ain't no third direction
-Big Tom Callahan
Good.
Now please sit down Mr. Whitlock. This is after all a professional organization. They know better than anyone in the media what’s-what. They were obviously on top of this long before Whitlock had an iota of an idea about this.
My sentiments are likely to be summed up with one of these 2 quotes:
"Shut the f--- up."- Matt Cassel
"WHAT THE F---?!?!"- Todd Haley
R.I.P. C.H., #15
by Red N Gold Beast on Jan 8, 2010 12:28 PM CST reply actions
"Fit"
There’s a word you don’t see thrown around Weis’ name
D.J. #56 - Pay The Man & Play The Man
by KansasCityShuffle on Jan 8, 2010 12:30 PM CST reply actions
not until ...
he’s runner gassers this Summer!!!!!!!
Who tied the other end of my rope? I wanna move on, I wanna have hope!
Runner. Gassers.
Yes.
D.J. #56 - Pay The Man & Play The Man
by KansasCityShuffle on Jan 8, 2010 12:33 PM CST up reply actions
im fine with his weight, I dont want him to be the biggest loser
Haley is the right coach who just needs good people around him, much like Cassel
Vince Wilfork will be Scott Pioli's top offseason priority and will be a Chief.
Jamaal "Do it All" Charles
My main concern about hiring Weiss is how all the ego's would work together
Could Weiss, who has a history of being an accomplished Offensive Coordinator, get along with Haley, who is very hands on on the offense?
If they are able to find a way to work together, this can only be a good thing for both Todd Haley and the Chiefs.
Didn't they answer that question in the press conference?
Bask in the glory that is Kwame Harris. Poor Alex...
Saying and doing are two different things
I would think anyone that pays attention to football would know that.
I'm just saying
we don’t really have any evidence to show it won’t work. Weis has made every attempt to defer his ego to Haley’s. Not to mention, these guys are friends. They’ve shared an office and remained in contact for years with Haley asking advice from Weis at times as recently as this season. Neither of these men will be surprised by the others’ behavior on the field.
Nothing about this whole situation, other than Fatlock, says there will be any problem between the two.
Bask in the glory that is Kwame Harris. Poor Alex...
Has nothing to do with Whitlock
Weiss is well known to have a very healthy ego. In a year we have seen Haley ditch his offensive coordinator throwing out an entire offseason of work because he wanted more control of the offense.
Not saying there WILL be a problem, but there could be. But as I said, if they can work it out, the Chiefs will be better off for it.
interpretation says a lot about bias
I’d categorize the Chan “demotion” as Haley realizing its better to install his offense now better than later – a logical conclusion IMHO. Not a grab for power/control. But then again, maybe that speaks about my bias.
by VermeilLikesToCry on Jan 8, 2010 12:57 PM CST up reply actions
Yes
Maybe I’m biased also, but that’s the vibe I got. I think Haley realized that Chan wasn’t going to run (or wasn’t able to run) the kind of offense that the Chiefs would inevitably be using under Haley. Therefore, he decided that it would be better to get rolling in the right direction this season, rather than next.
Yes, he probably could have made that decision a lot earlier than he did, but I think it was the right decision. Essentially, the Chiefs aren’t starting over. They’re going to be running the same system, which Cassel and the entire offense now have a year of experience under thier belts. I think that, more than anything else, validates that 2009 wasn’t just a wasted season. There was progress made for the future.
by TheScootness on Jan 8, 2010 2:06 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
In my opinion DJ
I beleive that the reason that Haley removed Galey was for that very reason. They had opposing opinions on how the offense should have been ran. Haley was hired as the head coach and as such his vision of what should be done was going to stand. Haley got rid of Galey to avoid just such blow ups between them.
Yeah, let's just keep matriculatin' the ball down the field, boys! ...
by oldchiefsfan on Jan 8, 2010 12:58 PM CST up reply actions
Wow, you mean there may be a reasonable explanation on why two people can't work together
that doesn’t involve going around screaming “EGO”? I agree with you oldchiefsfan. I think the issue was a difference in philosophies, not egos.
"If at first you don't succeed, try, try again. Then give up. There's no use in being a damn fool about it." ---W.C. Fields
The last time we saw this happen
Herm didn’t ditch Gunther despite diametrically opposed defensive mindsets. As a result we ended up watching them try to force a square peg into a round hole for Herm’s entire tenure here.
Haley firing Chan was less related to ego and more a result of the Head Coach enacting his vision of where the team will go on his assistant(s). That’s his job.
Bask in the glory that is Kwame Harris. Poor Alex...
by JHWK on Jan 8, 2010 1:05 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
The fact that Haley went and hired an OC
To me, is telling that he can and will put his ego aside to run a more efficient ship.
Ego should probably not even be at the forefront of this coversation. Above all, the philosophies have to mesh. That’s what we should be talking about, and the indication is that the transition should be seamless.
We’ve seen what happens when opposing philosphies try to do business together.
"The first step to penetration... must not be lateral"
-Confucius, in contrary to Glenn Dorsey lining up in the 2-tech
Yes, Like Al Davis' philosophy and that of anyone rooted in reality
"If at first you don't succeed, try, try again. Then give up. There's no use in being a damn fool about it." ---W.C. Fields
by Big Chief on Jan 8, 2010 1:22 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
All of these guys have big egos.
Ambitious people usually do. Belichick has a pretty big ego and Weis apparently got along fine with him. At the end of the day these guys all want to win.
Toby is in HR, which technically means he works for corporate, so he's really not a part of our family. Also, he's divorced, so he's really not a part of his family.
Exactly
Slappy gets it.
Everyone else acts like if you dare to impune the integrity of anyone in the Chiefs front office you’re just a negative nancy.
The truth is ALL of these guys have good sized egos. They probably wouldn’t be in the positions they are in if they didn’t.
This particular matching of established Offensive Coordinator with control freak younger O.C. is one that in particular could potentially cause problems.
But that DOES NOT MEAN thy can’t work together. Just that they will have to find a WAY to work together.
As does everybody else in this league.
So what’s the real point here? It’s like saying one team has to be concerned about preparing to defeat another team on Sunday. Why make it bigger than it really is? The whole ego argument is tired and overblown.
You've had your mind poisoned by Whitlocks's psychobabble
FREE YOUR MIND!!! It’s all nonsense. This stuff happens every year. Whitlock is mental.
"If at first you don't succeed, try, try again. Then give up. There's no use in being a damn fool about it." ---W.C. Fields
I wasn't saying you got your opinion from Whitlock
just the “Ego” nonsense. Whitlock keeps pulling out Ego. It’s not a term I use very often, and certainly not to explain why things happen the way they do. But Whitlock uses it about as often as “the”. If you normally go around talking about ego’s, my apology.
"If at first you don't succeed, try, try again. Then give up. There's no use in being a damn fool about it." ---W.C. Fields
Ego does have something to do with it
Just because Whitlock said it doesn’t automatically make it a lie.
I’ve been pointing out the potential clash of ego’s if Weiss were brought in for as long as its been brought up.
All I was saying from the very beginning is they are going to have to find a way to work together. Its not going to be all peaches and creame as some seem to think since they shared an office nearly a decade ago when Haley was a low level scout.
correction
Its not going to It may not be all peaches and creame as some seem to think since they shared an office nearly a decade ago when Haley was a low level scout.
And don't NFL coaches (most of whom have big egos) find ways to work together efficiently?
This really is a non-issue.
My sentiments are likely to be summed up with one of these 2 quotes:
"Shut the f--- up."- Matt Cassel
"WHAT THE F---?!?!"- Todd Haley
R.I.P. C.H., #15
by Red N Gold Beast on Jan 8, 2010 12:41 PM CST up reply actions
what ego?
You do realize the Haley “ego” thing was completely fabricated by the media, right? He’s actually rather humble for a head coach, especially compared to recent history, e.g. Herm “flawless human” Edwards
by VermeilLikesToCry on Jan 8, 2010 12:47 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
i agree...
Todd has been very humble with the media
You're either growing or you're dying, there ain't no third direction
-Big Tom Callahan
Thanks for this comment
Haley is a good guy from everything I have seen
"I’d go to battle with him every day of the week." Todd Haley on Matt Cassel
This statement is why I am on the Cassel train, drinkin the Kool-Aid!
Stop it, just stop it. Your going to give Stag a big ego.... ooopppss to late : )
Yeah, let's just keep matriculatin' the ball down the field, boys! ...
hey
I have been very humble with the media too :)
except whitlock, I hate that guy
You're either growing or you're dying, there ain't no third direction
-Big Tom Callahan
That's because you and Whitlock have such big egos! : )
"If at first you don't succeed, try, try again. Then give up. There's no use in being a damn fool about it." ---W.C. Fields
I was replying to Vermeil's comment
But I agree with stag most of the time!
"I’d go to battle with him every day of the week." Todd Haley on Matt Cassel
This statement is why I am on the Cassel train, drinkin the Kool-Aid!
yeah, plus he had stated he will get an OC, he obviously had a person like weis in mind
he has more pride than anything, and he wont turn his offense over to just anyone…im content
Haley is the right coach who just needs good people around him, much like Cassel
Vince Wilfork will be Scott Pioli's top offseason priority and will be a Chief.
Jamaal "Do it All" Charles
Wow
This Offseason is awesome. Not only will we be active in trying to better our team in all areas but we can go to training camp without leaving state. That’s where my vacation will be this year whoo hoo…now I just have to convince the mrs. That St. Joe is awesome
by BiiG_C on Jan 8, 2010 12:38 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Yessir.
I might need to skip a day or two of work and make the 60 minute drive out to the camp.
My sentiments are likely to be summed up with one of these 2 quotes:
"Shut the f--- up."- Matt Cassel
"WHAT THE F---?!?!"- Todd Haley
R.I.P. C.H., #15
by Red N Gold Beast on Jan 8, 2010 12:43 PM CST up reply actions
Just wait, it's going to get even better
Yeah, let's just keep matriculatin' the ball down the field, boys! ...
by oldchiefsfan on Jan 8, 2010 12:44 PM CST up reply actions
I'll see you there
training camp’s gonna be fun this year
Bask in the glory that is Kwame Harris. Poor Alex...
Yea, just awsomesauce that we can even think about driving up to St. Joe to watch.
Yeah, let's just keep matriculatin' the ball down the field, boys! ...
One down
one to go! And Schefter, who is performing a media blitz on Sportscenter today, is still calling the Chiefs the most likely landing spot for Romeo.
Bask in the glory that is Kwame Harris. Poor Alex...
I sure hope so, the family environment is huge if that happens
Haley is the right coach who just needs good people around him, much like Cassel
Vince Wilfork will be Scott Pioli's top offseason priority and will be a Chief.
Jamaal "Do it All" Charles
Haha
We need to open a restaraunt.
Weis, Crennel, A NT.
We Need more food :)
"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli
Haven't watched the press conference yet.
Was JW there and did he ask that question, or did someone else, or did they address it on their own?
My long, drawn-out predictions that no one cares about, nor will bother to remember:
1. Todd Haley will still be the Chiefs Head Coach up to the 2011 season.
2. Clancy Pendergast won't make it to the 2010 season and was never intended to. Last-minute hire for a position that needed to be filled.
3. Todd Haley will not be the OC at the start of the 2010 season.
Really think the offense can be special next year,
With Weis on board and if we get another go to receiver and one more good o-lineman.
Agree, with modest acquisitions
If we can re-sign Chambers and Wade Smith, add at least one talent at OL and one pass catcher (WR or TE), backup RB, I think this offense can be pretty good. Those are very attainable acquisition goals, i think. Spend the rest of the effort on defense.
by VermeilLikesToCry on Jan 8, 2010 1:05 PM CST up reply actions
I agree, you could get by with that, I would prefer 2 OL in the first 5 rounds though on top of a starter
Haley is the right coach who just needs good people around him, much like Cassel
Vince Wilfork will be Scott Pioli's top offseason priority and will be a Chief.
Jamaal "Do it All" Charles
In a fanshot I just put up (hint, hint)
Adam Tiecher has a article that has some statements from Weis like….
But there is s mutual fit in my relationship with Todd and my relationship with (general manager Scott Pioli) and several other people in the organization, That made Kansas City look like one of the prime landing spots for me.
Yeah, let's just keep matriculatin' the ball down the field, boys! ...
Can anyone tell me
if Weis is such an accomplished OC, why was he coaching at a college level?
No sarcasm intended…I’m honestly wondering.
Predictions:
1) Fans will feel just scads better from mid-to-end of the 2010 season.
2) During the 2021 season, Ryan Succop will become the Chiefs’ all-time leading scorer with 1469 points.
I think being the head coach at ND is a pretty lofty job.
Better than being a coordinator in the NFL, IMO
by mightykc on Jan 8, 2010 1:12 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Well,
For one thing, he was wanting to get into head coaching. The college level offered him an avenue towards that goal.
Another reason is because he was a Notre Dame grad. Getting offered a HC job at your alma mater would be hard to pass up.
My sentiments are likely to be summed up with one of these 2 quotes:
"Shut the f--- up."- Matt Cassel
"WHAT THE F---?!?!"- Todd Haley
R.I.P. C.H., #15
by Red N Gold Beast on Jan 8, 2010 1:12 PM CST up reply actions
coaching for notre dame is VERY VERY prestigious...usually they dont even
take another job afterwards because it was considered one of the top jobs in all of football…
he is just NOT a head coach in my honest opinion…there are so many GREAT coordinators…he is one of them…some guys just cant do it…Weis is obviously better at running an offense and leaving the rest to someone else….
Haley is the right coach who just needs good people around him, much like Cassel
Vince Wilfork will be Scott Pioli's top offseason priority and will be a Chief.
Jamaal "Do it All" Charles
I'm not so sure Weis couldn't do a good job as a HC in the NFL
HC at the college level and NFL level are so very different. If the Chiefs offense progresses like I hope he could get a crack at being an NFL HC in a year or two.
"If at first you don't succeed, try, try again. Then give up. There's no use in being a damn fool about it." ---W.C. Fields
it would take at LEAST
3-4 years to rebuild his reputation again.
Bask in the glory that is Kwame Harris. Poor Alex...
If the Chiefs were to become a top 10 team next year, I think it could be quicker.
"If at first you don't succeed, try, try again. Then give up. There's no use in being a damn fool about it." ---W.C. Fields
I'm as big an optimist as the next guy but
a top 10 team next year? Really?
Bask in the glory that is Kwame Harris. Poor Alex...
I'm saying "IF", not "When"
It is possible, but unlikely. But if it did Weis would instantly get a lot of attention and starting getting consideration for a shot at HC.
"If at first you don't succeed, try, try again. Then give up. There's no use in being a damn fool about it." ---W.C. Fields
By what team?
I just can’t see any way he’d be in consideration for a HC position anywhere in just a year or two.
Bask in the glory that is Kwame Harris. Poor Alex...
By about any NFL team
I don’t think his “failure” at ND will count for much of anything in the NFL. College HC and NFL HC are far too different.
"If at first you don't succeed, try, try again. Then give up. There's no use in being a damn fool about it." ---W.C. Fields
That's a cop out answer and you know it
I’m asking you for ONE example of an owner/front office that would risk tens of millions of dollars on a guy that outright failed as a college HC simply because he showed he’s a good NFL OC for one or two seasons and you can’t even pick a single team out of the 32 you say would be on the market?
Bask in the glory that is Kwame Harris. Poor Alex...
Don't be ridiculous, he would be considered by most teams.
I don’t know what teams will be looking for HCs in a year or two, and neither do you.
But to the rest of your comment. Weis – One or two seasons? What, a bad stint at ND and his prior years as a successful NFL OC are eliminated? Give me a break. He’s got a big track record and was being considered for NFL HC jobs before he took the job at ND. Like I said before, his stint at ND isn’t going to hurt him. I still say if the Chiefs have a big offense he’ll be back on the radar in a year or two unless HE says he’s not interested.
If you disagree, fine. But since OUR HC was selected after just a couple of years as an OC (and was a hot ticket throughout the league) you tell me why Weis’ situation is different.
"If at first you don't succeed, try, try again. Then give up. There's no use in being a damn fool about it." ---W.C. Fields
Because he just spent 5 years
playing with a deck stacked with 5 star recruits and NFL prospects and managed to only win 35 games due to his inability to successfully handle more than the duties of an OC. His offenses were great, but that was all he could pull off.
What makes anyone think that after 1-2 years of proving exactly what we all knew, he’s a great OC, he’ll suddenly become a popular HC candidate? He went 35 and 27 while vastly outmatching most of his opponents athletically, what makes you think he’d be able to effectively coach all sides of the ball at the NFL level?
Bask in the glory that is Kwame Harris. Poor Alex...
Who cares
I just don’t see the point in this argument. One flaw I would point out is that ND has the highest academic requirements that I am aware of. That puts a lot of top prospects out of contention to go to ND.
"I’d go to battle with him every day of the week." Todd Haley on Matt Cassel
This statement is why I am on the Cassel train, drinkin the Kool-Aid!
???
Harvard, Yale??? Pretty stringent academic requirements there.
Now Duke is probably pretty close to ND…..
WE lost to WHO?
by Cowboynchrist on Jan 8, 2010 6:02 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
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Ok thats a dumb reply…sorry should have read whole comment….
WE lost to WHO?
by Cowboynchrist on Jan 8, 2010 6:03 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Not a dumb reply
I just mean of the competing division 1 schools. I always here people talk about how many prospects ND doesn’t even attempt to get because of the academic requirements
"I’d go to battle with him every day of the week." Todd Haley on Matt Cassel
This statement is why I am on the Cassel train, drinkin the Kool-Aid!
I think Oakland will take anyone they can get
since nobody established wants to go there. Only someone desparate for the chance.
Air Cassel - approved for takeoff
Always in motion is the future.
-- Yoda
depends
It looks like our offense might already be on the upswing. If we have a spectacular offense suddenly (1-2 years), he could get all the credit for it, by some.
by VermeilLikesToCry on Jan 8, 2010 1:37 PM CST up reply actions
And that still isn't grounds
for escalating him above other potential HC candidates across the league in the next few years. Only Al Davis is truly crazy enough to pull something like that and even he wouldn’t hire a KC coordinator as his HC.
Bask in the glory that is Kwame Harris. Poor Alex...
i'm not saying i'd hire him based on that
but some people might
by VermeilLikesToCry on Jan 8, 2010 1:42 PM CST up reply actions
If you wouldn't hire him hypothetically
then why would anyone risk tens of millions of dollars on him?
Bask in the glory that is Kwame Harris. Poor Alex...
because
in the nfl you can also afford to pay a top DC a fat salary. At ND Weis had a good offense, he just couldn’t get the D going. Let’s say a team like Atlanta or Miami (whose GMs both have ties to Weis) miss the playoffs next year again and their offenses are struggling, meanwhile Weis does wonders for Cassel and along with Charles the offense takes off. One of those teams might consider him if they thought they had a DC that could handle that side of the ball on his own.
Feeling "The Love" and "Drinking the Kool AId"
The way I see it is....
….He could go to an NFL team and maybe have some sucess and maybe become known as a good head coach. Or he could go to a prestigous college, that he attended, and if everything goes well, he becomes a LEGEND. That is what a big time college program can make you, a legend. It’s hard to do that in the NFL.
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.
by BigRedChief on Jan 8, 2010 1:27 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
This train has officially left the station
Pioli is sitting in his nice suit with Clark smoking pipes while Haley the conductor is pulling on the horn….they just picked up Weis to shovel coals….this thing is picking up major steam….gotta get thy DC on board with some nice FA and Draft Picks and this train will be full steam ahead with no stopping for badwagon fans!!!
All aboard!!!
"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden
by Matt_Grbac on Jan 8, 2010 1:26 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Yep....
…I think we have just scratched the surface of this thing. This is probably going to be the most pivotal offseason any of us have seen from this franchise.
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.
Fully agree
I’m so amped for it. I mean the win (the flogging) we gave the Donks (and oh man did that feel good!) gave the players that all necessary confidence going into the offseason – and I have been saying that for a while, better to win, then to vie for Draft position by losing. Anyway, the players get the momentum from the win, the team adds momentum with Weis’s hiring. We add a few other key FA’s and draftees, and get a key DC. And lookout we have a full on quantum avalanche (sorry that’s my geeky physics side coming out). Quantum avalanches produce nuclear reactions and lasers…. both kick ass. :)
by Eastcoastransplant on Jan 8, 2010 7:34 PM CST up reply actions
I'm sure they'll hire someone
and Weis will have input
by VermeilLikesToCry on Jan 8, 2010 1:32 PM CST up reply actions
Yes he is....
….He knows how to mentor a young QB better than most. (cough) Brady Quinn.
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.
Quinn's success as a Brown
is hardly Weis’ fault, it’s Cleveland’s. Fact of the matter is, every QB Weis has coached in the last 10 years has put up gawdy numbers and experienced a lot of success.
Bask in the glory that is Kwame Harris. Poor Alex...
I am in agreement with you about Weis being a good QB coach....
….I think it hurt Brady when he didn’t have Charlie to turn to and tell him what he was doing wrong. I think Brady’s sucess was a product of a Weis.
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.
i'm sure weis would still be very active coaching QBs
but that’s no reason not to hire a young coach to assist
by VermeilLikesToCry on Jan 8, 2010 1:41 PM CST up reply actions
I think that happened as soon as they named an OC
If they don’t get a separate QB coach, I think Weis will pick up those duties. I hope they do get a QB position coach, though.
"If at first you don't succeed, try, try again. Then give up. There's no use in being a damn fool about it." ---W.C. Fields
Weis is a better QBs coach
than we could probably find elsewhere.
Bask in the glory that is Kwame Harris. Poor Alex...
Weis will be coaching Cassel, so both were done at the same time.
Yeah, let's just keep matriculatin' the ball down the field, boys! ...
Haley and Weis interview is up at KC Chiefs website.
"If at first you don't succeed, try, try again. Then give up. There's no use in being a damn fool about it." ---W.C. Fields
Sounds like they’re in love.
If someone asks you if you want extra mayonnaise you have to say yes, cus that's part of it.
-Jared Allen
Fine with me
as long as they get us out of the toilet and into to the Super Bowl as soon as possible.
Weis assistants
Ron Powlus was QB Coach at ND from 07-09 with Weis, he tutored Clauson from a Freshman.
Bernie Parmalee was TE/ST coach at ND from 05-09, from the beginning of Weis at ND. He coached the likes of John Carleson and others.
I would bet atleast one of these guys makes it on with the Chiefs….my money is on Bernie to take over TE. He has history by playing for the Jets with Weis and Haley.
"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden
by Matt_Grbac on Jan 8, 2010 2:04 PM CST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
cool, I remember Ron as a QB for ND, and I remember Bernie on the Fins...cool stuff
Haley is the right coach who just needs good people around him, much like Cassel
Vince Wilfork will be Scott Pioli's top offseason priority and will be a Chief.
Jamaal "Do it All" Charles
So sweet
I bet heavy on the denver game and won enough money to pay for my season tickets. Now we get WEIS and maybe CRENNEL . this kool aid sure has a kick to it.
by Charles # 1 chiefs fan on Jan 8, 2010 3:03 PM CST reply actions
good bet, I NEVER gamble or bet or anything, but if I could, that was the ONE game I would have...people wrote us off for no good reason
Haley is the right coach who just needs good people around him, much like Cassel
Vince Wilfork will be Scott Pioli's top offseason priority and will be a Chief.
Jamaal "Do it All" Charles
he also said
the job in KC was very “intriguing.”
I think that says a lot about how he feels about Pioli and Haley’s “process,” and where the team is headed…
Just like novocaine. give it time; always works..
The greater the fall, the grander the ascention..
he has a lot to prove, obviously he feels he can do that in KC
Haley is the right coach who just needs good people around him, much like Cassel
Vince Wilfork will be Scott Pioli's top offseason priority and will be a Chief.
Jamaal "Do it All" Charles
its all coach speak
the season will show how it really goes… all this preseason political talk is meaningless.
I think they will be fine though.
Just A thought
We almost had Brady Quinn fall in our laps we were drafting @ 23, the Dallas Cowboys traded with Browns——-fast forward—2010. Charlie Weis OC—will we be trading for Quinn? Im not saying he is better than Cassel. IS he the right FIT?
by BBell78 on Jan 8, 2010 7:58 PM CST via mobile reply actions
One of the main points was that the offenses that Haley and Weis run are no different. Cassel was brought in because he “fits” the Haley system, which is the same as the Weis system. I think we’ll start to see things settle down and those in charge will start to focus more on getting guys more familiar with each other after FA and the draft.
If someone asks you if you want extra mayonnaise you have to say yes, cus that's part of it.
-Jared Allen
for me to approve of this...
it would have to be something ridiculous like Quinn and Cribbs for our 1 and 4, or something totally in our favor.
People please
Weiss and Haley not going to have problems. Those guys respect each other so it want be any clashing. NOt to say those to guys want have a disagreement but who always agrees with their supervisor on jobs or vice versa. As for us bring in Quinn. Heck no. It want happen at all. We’ve just invested 60 million in Cassel so that was too an off the wall question or thought.
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