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Chiefs GM Pioli Confirms Haley Will be Back in 2010

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There was never really a question in my mind but plenty of reports and/or speculation have arisen with a four win team that Todd Haley could be one-and-done with the Kansas City Chiefs.

Not so, says GM Scott Pioli.

"Todd made tremendous progress this year," Pioli said to Adam Teicher of the Kansas City Star. "Our whole team made progress this year. Todd coached well under some difficult circumstances."

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Those difficult circumstances include firing an offensive coordinator (Chan Gailey) and hiring an offensive coordinator (himself) before the season started.  Pioli says that while Haley's current roles as coach, offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach is "a lot on his plate", he handled things well.

"Being a first-time head coach, coordinating the offense, calling the plays and having the set of circumstances we all walked into that we all knew was a lot to overcome … he handled it well."

Pioli called the Chiefs head coach "self-aware" and said he was fully cognizant of the development that needs to come from the team.

Haley said simply of his first season, "Until you have that experience, you just don’t know."

Well, now he knows.

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Good.

One year is not enough. I keep hearing something about a new D-Cord but then I had to miss what was said about it. Like last night the news was going to talk about a new D-Cord… then this morning 610 Sports was talking about how Romeo Carnell was going to be the next D-Cord but I had to get out of my car so I missed what was said about it.

by SwimCoach on Jan 4, 2010 8:05 AM CST reply actions  

Yah I don't care if u like him or not...another merry go round change would only serve

to hurt this team again. We can’t have this next year. We need some continuity and some consistency at all positions. this constant influx and outflux of players and coaches every week is not good for any team. Haley stays. We got our new D and O coordinators and shuffle some coaches around BEFORE the season starts so they can get it going early instead of late this year.

by krayfish on Jan 4, 2010 8:14 AM CST reply actions  

If we really want to follow the Patriot way...

Romeo Carnell – D Cord
Charlie Weis – O Cord

+ need a new D-Line coach.

by SwimCoach on Jan 4, 2010 8:16 AM CST reply actions  

gotta agree

I really like Krumrie, but for some reason, his linemen aren’t playing up to their potential.

by ChiefsDude on Jan 4, 2010 8:25 AM CST up reply actions  

me too...

I like Krumrie too… but it’s not working and it needs to with 2 1st round picks on that line…

by SwimCoach on Jan 4, 2010 8:38 AM CST up reply actions  

Not even Knute Rockne could have won with this bunch...

…which is not the same thing as saying Todd Haley is a good coach. But unless the head coach is an alchoholic, wife-beating sociopath – or clearly, unmistakably incompetent – there’s no reason to fire him after one season. Haley deserves at least one more season, and probably another after that, to get things turned around.

by Obliterati on Jan 4, 2010 8:18 AM CST reply actions  

D Coordinator

Is anyone else listening to 610 right now? I’m almost positive they just said that the Chiefs had hired Crennel. It was during the sports update with Leon Leavle (sp)

by staticz on Jan 4, 2010 8:40 AM CST reply actions  

ESPN

Reporting that Crennel will “likely be hired” by the Chiefs in a “role to be determined”.

by Scott B. on Jan 4, 2010 8:57 AM CST up reply actions  

That's what I was hearing this morning

but then i left my car for work so i didn’t get to hear the rest.

by SwimCoach on Jan 4, 2010 9:04 AM CST up reply actions  

Meh

Moderator - Arrowhead Pride

by UCrawford on Jan 4, 2010 8:41 AM CST reply actions  

oh, the disappointment

The only players I hurt with my words are the ones who have an inflated opinion of their ability. I can't worry about that.
Bill Parcells

Knowledge is confidence. And confidence lets you play fast.
Bill Parcells

by kcguy on Jan 4, 2010 9:23 AM CST up reply actions  

"He handled it well"?

I’d say yes, he handled it. But, “handled it well” is going a little too far.

by Scott B. on Jan 4, 2010 8:42 AM CST reply actions  

Maybe Jim Zorn as a QB's coach?

I saw he was fired already, and he had some good years when he was in Seattle. Any thoughts on that?

Cry Havoc! And let slip the Chiefs Defense of War!!!

by nateforchiefs on Jan 4, 2010 8:45 AM CST reply actions  

I'd be down.

My long, drawn-out predictions that no one cares about, nor will bother to remember:

1. Todd Haley will still be the Chiefs Head Coach up to the 2011 season.
2. Clancy Pendergast won't make it to the 2010 season and was never intended to. Last-minute hire for a position that needed to be filled.
3. Todd Haley will not be the OC at the start of the 2010 season.

by jbj8609 on Jan 4, 2010 8:51 AM CST up reply actions  

no surprise that he's returning

Not to the rational mind, anyway. I can think of a few APers who said it’s his job to win games, period, and that he should be fired. They expected immediate results and wins, apparently. I predicted five wins, but I still consider the four-win season to be a decent start, considering the amount of demolition than needed to be done. Heck, there’s still a lot of turnover to be done this coming off-season.

by burntorangehorn on Jan 4, 2010 8:46 AM CST reply actions  

That's A Blatant Misrepresentation Of Most Of The Arguments Against Him

And frankly, I think most of the people who thought Haley was doing a bad job made their gripes with him quite clear. The problems weren’t just with the lack of wins, it was also with his problems with the players, his game management, the motivations behind his roster lineups, his choices for his coaching staff, and an oft-displayed inability to control his temper on the sidelines that undermined his performance as head coach.

If you disagree with people who think Haley’s not a good coach, that’s fine. But if your primary defense of Haley is to mischaracterize and misrepresent their arguments, then you’re not the rational mind in the debate.

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by UCrawford on Jan 4, 2010 9:02 AM CST up reply actions  

I seem to remember your arguments

You said he wasn’t winning, period, and that he deserved to be fired. Laughable.

by burntorangehorn on Jan 4, 2010 9:43 AM CST up reply actions  

Great

How about pulling up every other argument I’ve made.

Cherrypicking comments is also a misrepresentation.

Moderator - Arrowhead Pride

by UCrawford on Jan 4, 2010 10:18 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm not sure that posting links to the threads is "cherrypicking comments"

But as for every other argument you’ve made, that’s not particularly realistic. I don’t follow you around message boards hanging on your every word.

Anyway, let’s drop it, if it’s such a disturbing topic that you’re willing to ban for it.

by burntorangehorn on Jan 5, 2010 11:06 AM CST up reply actions  

As someone who has said Haley's job is to win games - period

I would like to say that never – not once – have I also said that Haley should be fired at the end of this season. In fact, I have said just the opposite a number of times.

John

"Gentlemen! You can't fight in here. This is the War Room!"

by RDOGuy on Jan 4, 2010 10:23 AM CST up reply actions  

It's definitely his job to win games

It just takes time to build the foundation for sustained success, especially in an organization that was as dysfunctional as the Chiefs were when Pioli and Haley came to town.

I don’t like seeing KC lose, but I see the direction since the firing of Peterson as a generally positive one.

by burntorangehorn on Jan 5, 2010 12:00 PM CST up reply actions  

That picture above...

is that from this last @ Denver game?

My long, drawn-out predictions that no one cares about, nor will bother to remember:

1. Todd Haley will still be the Chiefs Head Coach up to the 2011 season.
2. Clancy Pendergast won't make it to the 2010 season and was never intended to. Last-minute hire for a position that needed to be filled.
3. Todd Haley will not be the OC at the start of the 2010 season.

by jbj8609 on Jan 4, 2010 9:09 AM CST reply actions  

We played harder than the Broncos

We really had nothing to play for, and Denver had their season on the line, but we played like we wanted it more. That’s really something positive for Haley.

Haley made some mistakes this year, but he was a rookie coach learning on the job, and he’ll be better going forward. At the end of the year, he still had the team fighting, which bodes very well for the future.

by Offense of the 70s on Jan 4, 2010 9:39 AM CST reply actions  

If you really want to gauge the progress...

Look at yesterday’s game then, look at the last game of last year vs Cincy. That Chiefs team gave up. Hell, they didn’t even look like they wanted to be there. This team is much tougher and has at the very least shown that they will fight to the end…even when there is nothing to play for.

Big difference.

by Chiefsfan1970 on Jan 4, 2010 9:44 AM CST reply actions  

Agreed!

People talk about how this team “Never gave up on Herm” which I always thought was complete BS. Look what they did on Sunday and tell me that Haley is a poor motivator, or that his players don’t want to play for him. Hugs from a guy he benched? yep, that’s a sign of a terrible motivator.

If you only knew...

by IISaiNtII on Jan 4, 2010 10:22 AM CST up reply actions  

hugs from Bowe and DJ...

Sackoff (McIntosh,Goff) like Brangelina.

by DaChefs on Jan 4, 2010 10:29 AM CST up reply actions  

All I got to say is...

Is it August Yet? LOL!!! Great way to start football in 2010. I am pumped. Can’t wait for next month when the free agency moves start up! GO CHIEFS!!!

by crashman6 on Jan 4, 2010 12:16 PM CST reply actions  

Despite all the adversity...

The players did not give up on their coach and played their asses off every game down the stretch. That says more about Haley then any win/loss.

"Success is never ending, failure is never final."

by GenericBrand on Jan 4, 2010 12:57 PM CST reply actions  

Wake Up....

Haley deserves at least one more year. He has made some mistakes in all areas but that is expected in a rookie head coach. He appears to be solid on the fundamentals of building a team, honest, and acts with integrity. The Chiefs will be an 8-8 team next year and will improve in all areas of the game, which is why it is called re-building. All of the ill informed so called fans that are calling for his job after one season based on half the information need to shut up and give the team time to build. I am sure that Clark, and Scott have a better perspective, more information, & more experience than us to make these decisions. Sit back and enjoy the game for what it is…a game. and let the people hired to do the job do it….and for all you folks that know everything about rebuilding a professional football team you need to get off the computes and get a coaching job in the nfl….the hiring window is now open….

by cczack on Jan 4, 2010 1:17 PM CST reply actions  

I'm glad to hear Pioli endorse him, and not surprised by it.

I know there are people who don’t like Haley, and those who do. He’s had some issues. UCrawford called it right in saying he would have some problems with his staff. That’s certainly been true. And he still has to show that he can do all the things this team needs. But I do get frustrated by some of the complaints made about him, especially that he’s too harsh and yells at his players, or that he loses his temper too quickly. I’ve not seen him become unable to function and I’ve never seen that he’s lost this team, despite there being ample opportunity (and reason if the naysayers were right) to quit on him. And I’m much happier seeing Haley pissed off on the sidelines than I was watching Herm just stoically accept it.

There are two big reasons that I like Haley and am very glad to have him back. The first is his game philosophy. He seems to like an attacking offense and defense. I’m sick of having coaches who seem to want to win every game 13-7 (Marv, Marty, and Herm) or offense only coaches who just want to score points (Mackovic and Vermeil). Haley is the first coach we’ve had since Hank Stram who seems like he wants to win games 50-0. I think we have a coach who’s got the attitude needed to win championships. We’ll see if he has the other talents. The second thing is that he requires his players to be in shape and doing their jobs on the field.

I also think that Pioli is right and Haley has made strides this season. I think it’s a very good sign that he asked Charles what plays he wanted to run, and then ran them. That may be the best thing about the last game. I’m still a “Show Me” guy, but I like the direction that Haley is going.

-"A man may be a fool and not know it, but not if he is married." - H.L. Mencken

by Big Chief on Jan 4, 2010 1:38 PM CST reply actions  

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