JOHNSON
by R2J_24 on Jan 28, 2010 8:06 PM CST
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Do we really want Larry Johnson back in KC?
No.
OH! DERRICK Johnson... YEAH! RE-SIGN HIM NOW!! .... Right?
Right?
No. Not talking about him either.
I am talking about the forgotten Johnson. In all the hoopla of the Senior Bowl and upcoming draft, people have really only been talking about a few guys that have become household names (assuming your household is a football home). Yes, Suh, Tebow, McClain, Tate, Okung, Mays, Berry and Bryant have been the talk of this years draft class... As they should... And as a Chiefs fan, I'm thinking "BIG PICTURE". Lots of people focus on "Ok! Let's see who my team's #1 draft pick will be this year..." Not I my fellow Chiefs fans. Not I. I, R2J (Formerly known as ROC 27) am most looking forward to Round #2 and 3. Why? Because not only do we have 3 picks there, but that means we're closer to drafting the "forgotten Johnson"...
With Jamaal Charles emerging as a prime back in this league, the Chiefs now need to implement a little of the 2008 New York Giants. There you had Derrick Ward, Brandon Jacobs, and Ahmad Bradshaw. The New York Giants were able to contain Earth, Wind, and Fire on a single football field every Sunday.... There was no question that the 2009 Chiefs were short-manned when it came to the RB position. Which, put Charles in a position to carry the entire load. We couldnt depend on Savage to make plays or stay healthy and the same went for Williams, Battle, and Smith. And we just let go of the only RB this teams has come to know in the last 5 years in Larry Johnson.
So, what now? There is absolutely no way that we head into next season putting the same pressure and responsibility on Jamaal Charles. We need to learn from our mistakes (i.e. Larry Johnson's NFL record for Most Carries)... We have our "Wind" with Charles and we NOW have a GREAT opportunity to get our "Fire".
Stafon Johnson. People have forgotten about this young man since his horrible in unfortunate accident in the USC weight room. But if you remember correctly, Stafon Johnson was a force to be reckoned with. With a rare combination of speed, power, and elusiveness, Johnson has what it takes to not only play in this league, but succeed. Personally he reminds me of an Ahmad Bradshaw. How do we come up on this kid? Easy. The Chiefs are carrying the #36th and 50th picks (that's the 4th and 18th pick in the 2nd Round, for the slow person). We have a HUGE chance to pick up a position of need. I don't know about you guys, but I consider RB a position of need. I know we have many needs, but some of those CAN and will be addressed through Free Agency.
Stafon Johnson's stock dropped after the accident, but is he missing a leg? Or a hand? No. Johnson's stock will rise and rise fast after both the Senior Bowl, Combine, and USC Workouts. He is and will be a great player in this league and I can only hope that Scott Pioli, Todd Haley and Charlie Weis will see it my way.
This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Arrowhead Pride's writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Arrowhead Pride writers or editors.
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We need a RB
I would prefer a similar back to Charles, I would presume Fire is similar :)
"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli
what was "the incident" ?
You're either growing or you're dying, there ain't no third direction
-Big Tom Callahan
not to steal the thunder...
he dropped the bar on his throat and crushed everything, almost died….and still barely has a voice.
yikes
that’s scary… has he recovered?
You're either growing or you're dying, there ain't no third direction
-Big Tom Callahan
ahhhh
the sound of that story always makes me not wanna ever work out again haha
You're a goddamn quarterback! You know what that means? It's the top spot, kid. It's the guy who takes the fall. It's the guy everybody's looking at first - the leader of a team - who will support you when they understand you. Who will break their ribs and their noses and their necks for you, because they believe. 'Cause you make them believe. That's a quarterback.
--- Any given sunday
Cassel can lead us.
I like the thought of another young RB...
look at Carolina with Williams and Stewart. Kolby Smith had nice flashes, but either he wants to be let go, or he was a product of our O-line at the time. Weis might not be a running guy, so a veteran could fill the position. I hope they grab the best availables on either side of the ball….we could use them all.
Johnson
seems too similar to jamal running style…….we need a big back like brandon jacobs…..or legarrette blount in the later rounds
Bradshaw didnt seem to get much action when ward was still there…….I think it was more just jacobs and ward then when ward left bradshaw filled his role…..soo we need a big bruiser similar in stature too jacobs
Rise?
To the second, NO. He got in a life threatining injury and teams will look for other answers at RB. He will be there in the 4th and 5th rounds. Which is exactly where I would like to pick him up. Another RB I would like to get is either Joique Bell or Legarrete Blount. Both are good all around backs with some power.
Blount would be great
But I think Johnson has more upside. And just watch… The kid’s stock will rise when it’s all said and done.
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
Exactly
My point his stocks gonna rise and I’d rather pick up another need like NT,SS,ILB,OLB,OT,C,OG,Slot Receiver,and KR. Those are who we should target this year. Another RB is just to much of a luxury that we can’t afford as a “rebuilding” franchise. I think that as long as Kolby is just getting 5 carries a game that he shouldn’t get injured to badly although he does Croyle-syndrome so who knows.
by Green-Monster on Jan 29, 2010 4:03 AM CST up reply actions
Pass on a RB this year
Keep Williams and savage as our backups. Draft Bradford out of USC next year. Incredibly fast and powerful. RB isn’t exactly a position that needs to be addressed through this seasons draft.
by SoCalChief17 on Jan 28, 2010 8:33 PM CST via mobile reply actions
We don't want to kill Charles
and I am not sure we have that guy on the roster to keep Charles from every down duty
"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli
by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 28, 2010 8:38 PM CST up reply actions
Agreed on not killing JC
I don’t see where having another running back with a similar style is a problem. I don’t have a problem with 2 backs playing with each averaging 5+ yards a carry. If you need a 1 yard back it is time for the current fullback or Dorsey, Jackson, Hali, etc. to step up to the plate and learn how to take a hand off and let the laws of physics run their course.
Yeah...but we beat the donkeys like a rented mule.
or get cody....
i heard he was a physics major…
agreed.
back in the day we would put the team on preist’s back or larry’s and they always ended up with a serious injury
You're a goddamn quarterback! You know what that means? It's the top spot, kid. It's the guy who takes the fall. It's the guy everybody's looking at first - the leader of a team - who will support you when they understand you. Who will break their ribs and their noses and their necks for you, because they believe. 'Cause you make them believe. That's a quarterback.
--- Any given sunday
Cassel can lead us.
I don't like 3 Back Committees.
Basically, because it can a) upset someone of the 3. b) it takes away from 1 or 2 of the others. and c) because it takes away the numbers and productivity from jc. I know winning is important but it’s also nice to have nice/big numbers and stats and be the best there is. that’s simply because i like numbers. and of course we need a back to supplement charles and take some carries for jc to get a breather and such.
"Charles In Charge"
"Defense Wins Championships"
Jamal Charles won't last
Ideally Charles would get 15-20 touches a game. I think Kolby Smith can spell Charles for an addition 5-10 carries a game and we would have a a decent running game.
don't we still have jackie battle?
or is he another one of those IR kinda guys?
Braccae illae virides cum subucula rosea et tunica Caledonia-quam elenganter concinnatur!
Jackie Battle sucks.
Williams is rank and Savage is a GREAT RB…. On the 3rd string. I love Kolby Smith, but the kid just can’t stay healthy.
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
I do love Savage
I more or less feel the same way about Kolby Smith as you do Battle. I thought Haley was pretty high on him (Battle) early in the year but he got hurt or something. Or did he just end up sucking so bad we cut him loose? I dunno. :-\
Braccae illae virides cum subucula rosea et tunica Caledonia-quam elenganter concinnatur!
No Battle got hurt.
Savage got hurt, but he was tugged to the bench during the game in Oakland for not making the plays he needed to. And again, Kolby Smith got hurt. I think Kolby could be a complementary back, but god damnit, he can’t stay off the injury list.
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
I know it
The few times he’s been in there at full strength he runs strong. Has decent vision and hits the hole with authority. But he’s as brittle as Croyle.
I still have hope for savage. I love that guy. Give him the right opportunities and I think we can have our own home grown version of Sproles. Little dude runs mean!
Braccae illae virides cum subucula rosea et tunica Caledonia-quam elenganter concinnatur!
I think we all agree we need someone
to spell Charles whether it is a Feature or a complementary (similar) type back. He is still a needed guy on the Chiefs.
"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli
The type of running back that we need is one like Kolby Smith...
unfortunately ever since he has been injured at Louisville he has had reoccurring knee injuries.
I personally would rather us grab LenDale White in free agency than grab another running back late in the draft. It is good to highlight guys like this that are available, as it is nice to see whom ‘might’ be the next star in the NFL.
Go Chiefs!!!!
Positives i hear about Stafon Johnson are
He is good between the tackles and has a knack at the the goal line and short yardage, also great in pass protection and good hands catching.
Stafon Johnson has all the talent in the world
The fact is, though, that he wasn’t exactly tearing it up for USC prior to his accident. He was sort of lost in the logjam of a zillion running backs for the Trojans, and didn’t produce anywhere near the level that Reggie Bush or Lendale White did. If his injury checks out, terrific. He’s a great kid with great talent. But I wouldn’t draft him in the second round, as the OP seems to suggest. I guess I wouldn’t gripe too loudly if he were the pick in the third, but I personally wouldn’t feel very tempted until the fourth or later.
by burntorangehorn on Jan 29, 2010 7:57 AM CST reply actions
adding to the stable
Good. I agree, we need another RB to protect JC. If I had my druthers, it’d be Ryan Matthews, FSU, ‘cause he’s a local boy. I’d get to see more Chiefs’ stuff on local TV. However, since Maycok has Matthews as his #1 RB, he’ll be long gaone by the 2nd round. I could live with your guy.
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