S prospects (pre workouts)
by kcchiefstd on Jan 16, 2010 4:34 AM CST
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FS/SS we need to bring one in to start. With No salary cap we are going to have to draft a Saftety. Witch is not a bad thing this year as the class is very deep.
The prosspects.
1.* Eric Berry, 5'11'' 203, Tenn (JR) SS/FS - An amazing athlete, Excellent playmaker, Solid tackler with great Ball skills. (early 1st rd)
2.** Earl Thomas, 5'10'' 200, Texas (Red Shirt So) SS/FS/CB - Very similar to Eric Berry. Maybe better in coverage. (1st - 2nd)
3. Chad Jones, 6'3'' 214, LSU, (JR) FS/SS - SEC Second Team (coaches) 66 Tackles and 3 Ints in 2009. Big athlete with playmaking ability. (1st - 2nd )
4. Taylor Mays, 6'3'' 235, USC (4.47) SS/FS - Rare size and athletic ability. Big Hitter and Playmaker in the secondary. (1st - 2nd rd)
5. Morgan Burnett, 6'1'' 210, GT (JR) FS/SS - 235 carear tackles and 14 Ints in his carear. A good Safety. (1st - 2nd)
6. Nate Allen, 6'1'' 206, South Florida, (4.5) FS/SS - 4Ints in 2009. a really solid safety prospect who stands out on the field. (2nd rd)
7.* Major Wright, 6'0'' 204, Florida (JR) FS/SS - 3 Ints in 2009. This is a very good player who most years would be a #1 or #2 prospect at the position. (1st - 3rd rd)
8.** Reshad Jones, 6'2'' 212, Georgia (JR) SS/FS - 73 tackles and 4 Ints in 2009. An Excellent all around Safety. (1st - 3rd rd)
9. TJ Ward, 5'10'' 201, Oregon (4.56) SS/FS - A walk on at Oregon had 101 tackles in 2008. One of the key peices to the Defense. The #1 senior SS prospect. But I'm one of those people who feel Safety is a position that needs to be interchangable so he is #9 overall safety. (2nd -3rd)
10. Kam Chancellor, 6'3'' 230, VT (4.58) FS/SS - Big Safety more of the in the Box type. (3rd - 4th rd)
11.** Darrell Stuckey, 5'11'' 205, KU (4.5) SS/FS - Big 12 Honerable Mention (coaches), From Kansas City Kansas. 93 tackles in 2009, and 98 tackles in 2008. A solid performer. ( 3rd rd)
12. Harry Coleman, 6'2'' 206, LSU (4.53) SS/FS - Played Strong side LB in 2009. Will be drafted to play SS. (3rd - 4th)
13.*** Robert Johnson, 6'2'' 200, Utah (4.52) FS/SS - First Team Mountain West. An Excellent playmaker who constantly gets his hands on the ball. Multiple games with 2 or more INTs.
14. Kyle McCarthy, 6'0'' 210, ND (4.58) SS/FS - Captain for ND 59 tackles and 5 Ints in 2009. If we draft a ND player other than Golden Tate this is who I would take. (4th - 5th rd)
15. Terrell Skinner, 6'2'' 214, Maryland (4.59) FS/SS - Played on a Maryland D that flat out sucked this year. Not a player high on my list. (4th - 5th rd)
16. Kurt Coleman, 5'10'' 195, Ohio St (4.57) SS/FS - First Team All Big Ten. Team MVP and ball hawk. Good prospect somewhat undersized for safety, could play CB in the NFL. (4th rd)
17.* Myron Rolle, 6'2'' 223, Florida St, (4.67) SS/FS - Alot of where this player goes in the draft depends on his workouts at the combine. After taking a year off while in Oxford on his Rhodes Scholarship. He needs to show scouts that he is in shape. (4th - 6th)
18.** Barry Church, 6'1'' 219, Toledo (4.56) SS/FS - MAC First Team for the FOURTH time. In addition to being a good safey he had 8 1/2 TFL and 6 QB hurries along with 3 blocked kicks this year. (5th rd)
19. Nick Polk, 5'11'' 219, Indiana (4.54) FS/SS - Has battled injury in his carear but still a solid prospect. (5th rd)
20. Robert Vaugn, 6'0'' 200, UConn (4.59) - FS/SS - A solid prospect. (5th - 6th rd)
21. ** Larry Asante, 6'0'' 215, Neb (4.56) SS/FS - Big 12 First Team, 70 tackles 2 Ints in 2009. A very good prospect. (6th - 7th rd)
22. Justin Woodall, 6'1'' 220, Alabama (4.64) SS/FS - 45 tackles and 3 Ints with 13 passes defended in 2009. A Big Very physical Safety. ? is does he have the speed to cover. (6th rd)
23. Van Eskridge, 6'0'' 195, East Car (4.65) FS/SS - A very good player. 40 time is no great but always seems to be in the right place. (6th rd)
24. Brad Phillips, 6'2'' 215, NW (4.65) FS/SS - First Team Big Ten (coaches), 84 tackles 4 forced fumbles 3 sacks and 1 Int in 2009. a very good player. (6th - 7th rd)
25. Kendrick Lewis, 5'11'' 195, Ole Miss ( 4.59) FS/SS - ? (7th rd)
26. Darion Stewart, 5'11'' 216, SC (4.6) SS/FS - Solid prospect, interested to see if he can improve his 40 time. (7th)
27. Aaron Webster, 6'2'' 211, Cincy (4.54) SS/FS - Big East First Team. An inderrated player in my opinion. 62 tackles, 4 Ints in 2009. a really good prospect. (7th - FA)
28. Randy Phillips, 6'0'' 210, Miami (4.59) FS/SS - 46 tackles and 2 Ints in 9 games. a solid prospect. (7th - FA)
29. Jerome Miles, 6'2'' 215, UMass (4.57) FS/SS - FCS First Team All American, 62 tackles and 2 Ints in 2009. a good prospect. (7th - FA)
30. Justin Thornton, 6'1'' 204, KU (4.59) FS/SS - Solid player. Played both Safety and CB for KU. a solid prospect for the FS position.
31. Cody Grimm, 5'11'' 210, VT (4.68) SS - Third Team All American, A playmaker but not sure where he will line up at in the NFL. Not sure he has the speed for Safety in the NFL.
Those are the prospects now the players I would like the Chiefs to look at after the Jump.
1 * Eric Berry,
2. ** Earl Thomas
3. * Major Wright
4. ** Reshad Jones
5. ** Darrell Stuckey
6. *** Robert Johnson
7. * Myron Rolle
8. ** Barry Church
9. * Larry Asante
Now for a DREAM draft senario. We trade our 1st rd 5th pick and our last 5th rd pick for a 2nd 3rd and 4th rd pick.
We get
2a. Golden Tate WR
2b. Perish Cox CB
2c. J.D Walton OC
3a. Darrell Stuckey SS
3b. Mitch Petrus OG
4a. Robert Johnson FS
4b. Dexter Davis OLB
5a. Perry Riley ILB
5b. Cam Thomas NT
I love it 7 starters and 9 potential day 1 starters. Cant do much better than that maybe add some Pickett, Taylor and Watson to it in FA.
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Thanks for all your work on these posts...
I look forward to your position posts and the discussion on possible future Chiefs they bring. Rec’d
I’m not sure about your mock…. our 5th and last 5th rounder are equal to 1733 trade value points, an average (16th) 2nd, 3rd and 4th would be equal to 680 trade value points.
It is definately a good year to be looking for a safety or two….
Wow
So many very good safeties! We could probably land a starter in any round…
"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden
by Matt_Grbac on Jan 16, 2010 9:29 AM CST via mobile reply actions
My dream draft (for right now anyway) would be...
Rolando McClain in the first and then Earl Thomas in the second
What the world needs is more geniuses with humility, there are so few of us left.
I really, really doubt Thomas makes it that far
McClain is more likely.
Really, I’d still be up for trading up for Thomas or standing pat for Mays, Stuckey (I think he’s top-50 material), or maybe Burnett or Jones.
by burntorangehorn on Jan 16, 2010 10:33 AM CST up reply actions
McClain and Nate Allen would be fantastic
You're either growing or you're dying, there ain't no third direction
-Big Tom Callahan
I'm with u stag!
Let’s tell Pioli!
"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden
by Matt_Grbac on Jan 16, 2010 12:48 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I'm with u stag!
Let’s tell Pioli!
"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden
by Matt_Grbac on Jan 16, 2010 12:49 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Reshard Langford
He’s allready here, and now with Crennel here as well, I think alot of people will be surprised at what a steal of a deal we got in this guy. I know I keep saying it but I really believe this guy is gonna be a playmaker.
I 100% agree with that but still think Stucky makes good competition at the SS position
With Langford. I feel Langford and Morgan would be adequate for the 2010 season at SS. FS is where I feel we need the sure starter. I also feel we need to get Competition for Carr at the #2 CB position if for no other reason then to push him to be better.
Also have to include FAs, Frankilin or Pickett at NT, Chester Taylor at HB, and Watson or McMichael at TE for my true dream offseason.
Robert Johnson is my favorite FS in the draft and expected to be a 4th rd pick. My favorite OLB in this years draft is Dexter Davis out of Ariz St also expected to be a 4th rd pick. J.D Walton is who I want at Center. I would love to find a trade that would allow us to get into the 4th rd one more time if that said trade could also include a 3rd, and 5th rd pick it would really make it better. I don’t know how to work the trade points out but what about trading our 5th pick in the draft and a 5th rd pick for a 2nd, 3rd, and 4th rd pick this year and a contingency pick in next years draft depending on what the players we get at such and such position accomplish next year. The points would probably still be lopsided to the team we would be tradig with but in this years draft I feel the quality of player we could get at #5 compared to a player in the second or even third rd is not going to buch less if any. I think it is a great option and we should really try to move down or completly out of the first rd with a valuable trade such as the one mentioned.
I just feel the more picks we have in the top 4 rds this year the better not neccesarily one towards the top I would rather stock pile picks then have the 5th pick and after 2 back to back top 5 picks it might be best money wise to trade down.
I like the idea but all I keep hearing is...
…that this draft is deep so why would a team trade all their early round picks for 1 pick? Sounds cute but its fantasy land.
Regarding safeties, I’m assuming we grab one in the draft. Not so sure what is out there in free agency. I wouldnt be surprised if we grabbed one in any rd- round 1 (berry), round 2 (Mays, Thomas or Allen), etc. Page is our FS. Taylor Mays would play SS. If we draft Berry is he our FS? Then what happens to Page? I personally like Nate Allen. But what happens to Page?
Mr J
KC Chiefs Fan
Deep draft at safety
Which is why we will go with Rolando McClain in the first.
No Larry Asante!
Larry can lay the wood to somebody for sure but he is a converted (small) linebacker and boy does he play saftey that way. He is constantly taking bad angles. Seriously the dude has major coverage issues, the Brothers Pelini did what they could for him to make him a resonable starter but make no mistake his coverage, or lack there of, was covered up by the pressure that defense put on the QB. If Asante could continue to get better he would have to play closer to the line, like Harrison did for Romeo, but he would get picked on A LOT. If he ever got it to “click” he would be scary because when he does take a good angle it’s gonna hurt when he hits you.
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