Arrowheadlines: Chiefs News 1/12
by NJ Chiefs Fan on Jan 12, 2010 5:55 AM CST
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Your Kansas City Chiefs news from across the internet. Not much new on the Romeo story. My magic 8 ball says the signs are pointing to yes, though.
OK, so what philosophy do Haley and Weis agree on? Of course that ventures into territory that the current Chiefs administration does not like to reveal. The cracks in the wall that give us a glimpse come from Weis’ time as offensive coordinator of the New England Patriots, and Haley’s coordination of the Arizona Cardinals last season and the Chiefs this year.Their past provides us with this picture of their philosophy: they believe in attacking, game planning for each opponent, using all possible weapons available on the roster, and maybe even creating some new ones along the way. They will take chances, they will gamble and they will always have a trick play or three up their sleeve.
Common Offensive Ground … Tuesday Cup O’Chiefs from Bob Gretz
Todd Haley recently spent some time going over the Chiefs he considers "core players" or those he sees being part of the foundation in 2010 and beyond.
Some of the names — Jamaal Charles, Brandon Flowers, Tamba Hali — aren’t surprising. Others are.
Quarterback Brodie Croyle, who as Matt Cassel’s backup threw 40 passes in 2009, is on the list. So are wide receiver Quinten Lawrence (one catch), defensive lineman Glenn Dorsey (eighth on the Chiefs with 45 tackles), linebacker Derrick Johnson (another backup) and offensive tackle Branden Albert (fifth in the NFL in sacks allowed with nine).
Chiefs coach Haley has some surprises on his list of core players from KC Star
Jamaal Charles had a remarkable run over the last half of the 2009 season. His race to 1,120 yards is all the more remarkable given the fact that nobody with fewer than his 190 carries has ever topped 1,100 yards.
Simply put, nobody in football history gained more yards on less carries than Charles.
The Historic Season of Jamaal Charles from Bob Gretz
It may indeed come down to Perry Fewell and Romeo Crennel spurning the Giants for other openings, leaving Tom Coughlin to continue his search for a new defensive coordinator. But those two candidates aren't out of the picture just yet.
Despite reports that Crennel had agreed to run the defense in Kansas City and Fewell agreed to do the same in Chicago, neither as of last night had signed contracts.
Romeo not off Giants' radar from The New York Post
Ok. Every time I turn around there is another bit of information coming in about Romeo Crennel. We are hearing everything from that he has already signed with the Chiefs to that he may still talk with the Giants. Rather than post 8 billion different posts, I am going to compile everything here. Newest info on top.
Wherefore art thou Romeo? Arrowhead Addict Crennel Watch from Arrowhead Addict
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Media and Fans
ChiefsPR http://twitpic.com/xpq2v - The AFL's crowning achievement came 40 years ago today. Here are Lamar Hunt and Pete Rozelle at Tulane Stadium.
ChiefsPR http://twitpic.com/xpqxe - Lamar Hunt called this TD pass from QB Len Dawson to WR Otis Taylor "the signature play" in Chiefs history. Play
ChiefsPR http://twitpic.com/xprjy - Head coach Hank Stram savors the Chiefs finest hour. Super Bowl IV - January 11, 1970 - Kansas City 23, Minnesota
Aaron_Porter_is: Watching NBC run a network is like watching KC Chiefs play football. They have their moments, but it's pretty much a guide of what NOT to do
nathanfrancy: @MahagaSitepu it's gr8. i've been 2 many kansas city chiefs games. they suck right now but they didn't used to so much. just the atmosphere
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Thanks NJ Chiefs Fan
for making life so much easier in the mornings. I look to only one place every morning for my Chiefs news.
Prediction: With the #5 pick, the Kansas City Chiefs take someone we've never freakin` heard of...
This gets me excited
they believe in attacking, game planning for each opponent, using all possible weapons available on the roster, and maybe even creating some new ones along the way.
That aggressive football is something that has been missing here for a long time and I think once we get the right players in place the Chiefs will be one of the most exciting teams in the NFL.
is it me? or isn't about time the Lamar Hunt trophy belonged to His team?
This Chiefs team is closer to a new expansion team than it is a playoff contender, your expectations should match that.
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Clearly, there’s more that goes into being on Haley’s list than production. Much of it involves a player’s willingness to accept a role, however limited, and ability to buy into the coach’s team-first way of doing things.
When your defense ranks 30th in the NFL and your overall offense is 24th, the only criteria for “core players” had damn well better be talent. If Haley’s still putting that much of an emphasis on guys who don’t rock the boat but don’t have that much talent, then he hasn’t learned a thing this season. The backup QB who hasn’t won a single game in four seasons and can’t stay on the field is not a core player.
Albert failed to secure Cassel’s back side for most of the season. A guard in college, Albert has been a left tackle for the Chiefs, and though he has a spot somewhere on their offensive line, Haley hinted it might be at a different position.
Looks like Branden Albert as “Left Tackle Of The Future” might be coming to an end…yet another player who failed to improve under Haley. Guess that means the Chiefs will be going left tackle at some point in this year’s draft unless they want to see O’Callaghan on the left side.
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Of Course
I also realize that the praise for Brodie Croyle may be an attempt to pump him up to get someone to trade for him, in which case I think that’s probably a waste of time. The rest of the league’s seen the guy’s limitations as well…nobody’s giving up much of anything for him.
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Incorrect. He improved as the rest of the season went on (with his only bad game against buffalo).
I know it wasn’t good, but it’s also showing some adjustment throughout the season. He’s smaller than he’s used to being, and he showed towards the end. I’m not going to freak out about that yet.
I think that O’Callaghan will not be doing anything (unless he markedly improves in the offseason). His stats were terrible.
And take all of this for what it’s worth.. they are stats. They rate everyone for all positions, and the rest of the Chiefs seem to be spot on. The good players we have are Jamaal (3rd at HB), Flowers (5th at CB), Carr wasn’t that bad, ranked 24th in the league for corners, Colquitt (5th for punters), Succop (11th), Gilberry (19th for 3-4 DE’s), Hali (10th for 3-4 OLB), DJ (11th for 3-4 ILB)
I meant bad game towards the end on that, but you get the idea.
And the thing that worries me the most is his penalties.
That's What I Meant By "Didn't Improve"
Yes, he had a decent run at the end, but overall his season was a regression from the year before. And the penalties were a big problem…he was simply a better player in 2008 than he was in 2009. That’s an indictment of the coaching staff’s handling of him.
Moderator - Arrowhead Pride
Two Things
You dont know why Haley said this….Could be to pump up Croyle, as you mentioned, or he really believes that he could hold down a backup job. He does have some physical tools. Secondly, Albert is a talented football player. He lost weight and jumped into a different scheme. Im not sure you could ask for him to do much better. He improved towards the end of the year. Im not giving anyone a free pass, but it seems like we need to look at the big picture.
I Don't Know Why Haley Said That
But if Haley’s being honest about it, it’s a stupid evaluation. The backup to a QB with a long-term contract is never a core player unless the backup’s clearly got more talent than the starter…and that’s certainly not the case here. Not to mention that Croyle can’t be relied on to even stay on the field for multiple games in a row.
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Yeah
I would say the issues with Croyle are well documented. But I believe a core player CAN be a backup, as long as he is willing to take that roll. You cant have an abundance of talent everywhere, and as long as the drop off between starter and backup isnt to great, you can manage at a position. Thats my interpretation of what Haley meant. I think Jon McGraw could be a core player, as a backup free/strong safety and great Special Teamer.
I Would Say No On McGraw
Simply because of his age (wrong side of 30). Not that he’s not been a good player here…just that a core player is one you build around and 30 year old defensive backs aren’t that kind of player.
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UC, you really should stop being so negative ... come on, now
The backup to a QB with a long-term contract is never a core player unless the backup’s clearly got more talent than the starter
just so happens I like Croyle, kids has more talent than Cassel IMNSHO
=angelic smile=
hi, Mo!
5 minutes!!!
For The Rest Of The Players
I do agree that the ones Haley named except Croyle have talent. My only gripe was Haley including a backup QB who’s never won a game and who’s not going to start over a $60 million QB as a “core player” on that list.
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