Report: Chiefs G Brian Waters Hires an Agent
"I know a lot of people want to fall in love with the idea of wanting to be faithful to the team until you die because there’s a lot of that hometown feeling. This is a business, and as soon as they think you don’t fit, you are gone. So you have to make sure you maintain your business angle to it." -Brian Waters, June 5th, 2009
Kansas City Chiefs guard Brian Waters has hired Athletes First to represent him according to Liz Mullen of the Sports Business Journal.
Previously, Waters had represented himself.
This move is interesting to me. Many times when a player switches agents, it's because they want a new contract. Agents usually don't get paid unless they negotiate a contract for a player so, unless Athletes First plans on working for free, or Waters has some other financial agreement set up with them, I imagine they would be seeking a new contract for Waters.
That's just a hunch on my part.
He currently has three years remaining at base salaries of $3.6 million, $2.9 million and $3.9 million on a six year, $26.5 million deal signed in January of 2006.
In the past, I've wondered whether Waters being his own agent represented a liability.
I raised this question in light of the reported run-in between Waters and Todd Haley in February of this year and Scott Pioli's reported refusal to meet with the player absent an appointment.
A player generally operates on emotion. An agent will bring a level of reason and objectivity to the table, while at the same time fighting for the player. The relationship between management and player is different than management and agent. Your agent is there to speak for you and do what's in your best interest, usually from a financial standpoint.
And how difficult is it for the Chiefs to distinguish between Brian Waters the player and Brian Waters the agent?
Of course, I'm not going to act like I'm privy to the relationship and/or financial dealings between the Chiefs and Waters. It's just that previous history had indicated that when a player hires a new agent, it's usually for good reason.
According to NFLPA records, Athletes first has a stable of five agents including David Dunn (Matt Cassel), Joby Branion, Mark Humenik, Andrew Kessler and Justin Schulman.
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Pioli will bodyslam them into the ground!
I dare any one of those slimy greedy heartless agents to approach Pioli about a new contract….he will go all Sopranos on them…..
"Hell yes I love my truck, but I want you to know, honey I love your love the most" - Eric Church
by Matt_Grbac on Sep 9, 2009 5:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Pioli actually worked well and quietly this season in signing picks, FA's and roster upgrades
Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying
by Steve_Chiefs on Sep 9, 2009 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know
I just like to think of Pioli, in my mind, as this hard ass GM who takes nothing from nobody…the kind of guy who will make you cry just by his angry stare.
"Hell yes I love my truck, but I want you to know, honey I love your love the most" - Eric Church
by Matt_Grbac on Sep 9, 2009 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Pen is the weapon
Mightier than the Tommy-Gun. Ask Al Capone
Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying
by Steve_Chiefs on Sep 9, 2009 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Heck Yeah
The agent signs the big contract and gives the pen to Pioli, who takes the pen to the agents forehead in a stabbing motion…..lol
"Hell yes I love my truck, but I want you to know, honey I love your love the most" - Eric Church
by Matt_Grbac on Sep 9, 2009 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well maybe Waters is really smart as the Agent takes it not him:)
Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying
by Steve_Chiefs on Sep 9, 2009 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
isn't that
what they said about peterson ala. jerod allen trade? which i mostly think was a good trade (got albert)
by E.C. on Sep 9, 2009 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Waters is smart
Maybe nothing to do withe current situation just for future reference as the Pioli way is not the Peterson way.
Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying
by Steve_Chiefs on Sep 9, 2009 5:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't like it...
Hopefully Waters isn’t going to pull some stunt before the season starts. He might considering he’d have the Chiefs brass by the balls. He’s really important to our o-line being just plain bad (instead of completely terrible) and there is no denying it.
If he tries some shit after the season I say get rid of him.
by chicks_love_chiefs on Sep 9, 2009 5:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah trade him for Anquan Boldin....yipppeeee
Cause without him Cassel will have to say a prayer in the huddle and throw the ball while running backwards every time
"Hell yes I love my truck, but I want you to know, honey I love your love the most" - Eric Church
by Matt_Grbac on Sep 9, 2009 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Balls seems to be the theme of the week.
Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying
by Steve_Chiefs on Sep 9, 2009 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Proverbially speaking...
"Hell yes I love my truck, but I want you to know, honey I love your love the most" - Eric Church
by Matt_Grbac on Sep 9, 2009 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmmmm...
could have saved himself a lot of time and money (by not having to pay an agent) by picking up the phone and calling first.
by bansky on Sep 9, 2009 5:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think that Brian Waters learned his leason back in Feb., and doesn't want to repeat it.
Come the offseason watch for him to be traded or ask to be traded.
by ravenhawk on Sep 9, 2009 5:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Good another 2nd round pick maybe
"Hell yes I love my truck, but I want you to know, honey I love your love the most" - Eric Church
by Matt_Grbac on Sep 9, 2009 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brian Waters will see downward progression next season(if not this season).
A 2nd rounder would be great compensation.
by ravenhawk on Sep 9, 2009 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dude
If we had….1st round pick and 3 2nd round picks…..haha…we would clean up at the draft
"Hell yes I love my truck, but I want you to know, honey I love your love the most" - Eric Church
by Matt_Grbac on Sep 9, 2009 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He can say "extension"
or get some guy off the street.
by NJ Chiefs Fan on Sep 9, 2009 5:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Back to Action NJ?
Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying
by Steve_Chiefs on Sep 9, 2009 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good time to go for an extension...
Although strange at the same time with so much time left. He has a little bit of leverage because he represents once less hole on a offensive line where the revolving door of players hasnt represented a solution where as keeping him solidifies the line. But like i said with so much time left on the contract id be surprised to see that.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Sep 9, 2009 6:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
This is really interesting
you don’t just hire an agent with three years left on your current contract for no reason. One way or another something is up
I don't want no Yo-Yos
by AK_47 on Sep 9, 2009 6:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I wonder
Could it be possible that the team has contacted HIM and said they would like to rework the contract? He has stepped up and been with the program since camp started (errr…well since he got off his bike), and we could throw some more money onto him this year to help bring the cap up and save money in the future. Maybe he needs the agent to make sure he gets a good deal on a rework.
Chiefs go 9-7. LJ makes 1400 yards. DBowe makes 1200 yards. Defense #18.
by Zodeman on Sep 9, 2009 6:44 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
+1 on reading the situation
makes the most sense anyway :)
Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying
by Steve_Chiefs on Sep 9, 2009 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope you are right
It does make sense they have to do something with all that money.
Herm is gone things are better with that one move!!
by bringbacktheglory on Sep 9, 2009 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is a very good thing
Agents provide a buffer between the team and the player and helps things be less personal and in that he negotiated himself a crappy deal I could see a reworking an extension.
by FrankPitts on Sep 9, 2009 8:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Maybe he's just posturing, because Haley wants Alleman at G and Waters at C.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
by hmills110 on Sep 9, 2009 8:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
why should we rework his contract? he is old, on the downward slope of his career and he is already getting a fair compensation. he is not a fa and i dont see a reason why we should throw money at him.
i think he is looking to get traded after the season or even during it.
by pmwz on Sep 10, 2009 2:57 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

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