Chiefs Depth Chart with Additions and Subtractions
by Joel Thorman on Sep 7, 2009 10:36 AM CDT
in 2009 Kansas City Chiefs Training Camp
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PrintThe Kansas City Chiefs will likely release the real depth chart for week one at the Baltimore Ravens sometime later today but for now I've taken the most recent one they've made available (last week before the final preseason game) and made the appropriate additions and subtractions over the last week.
hmills110 did the same thing a couple days ago so this is essentially an extension of what he did. Of course, I'm using the famous TheQ table.
Basically, what I've done is taken the old depth chart, removed the players who were released from the 53 man active roster, added the players we've signed and moved everyone up if there was a player in front of them cut. This is not necessarily a reflection of how I think, or the Chiefs think, the current depth chart stands. It's just moving names up and down according to the recent cuts and additions.
This doesn't necessarily mean this is the way things will shake out. In fact, it definitely doesn't mean this is the way things will shake out.
You can take a look at the chart after the jump, but here's one of the most glaring weaknesses that jump out at me:
Defensive End
Glenn Dorsey and Tyson Jackson are on the first team. Wallace Gilberry and Alex Magee are backing up Dorsey.
There's no one listed behind Jackson which means one of three things:
- Another player will be signed
- Bobby Greenwood and/or Dion Gales will be promoted to the active roster from the practice squad
- Gilberry or Magee will slide over and back up Jackson
There are certainly other weaknesses (wide receiver) and strengths (secondary) but this is the way things stand right now. This will probably change later today with the release of the latest depth chart.
As you look at this, keep in mind the following are on the practice squad and could be promoted to the active roster: CB Jackie Bates, TE Tom Crabtree, DE Dion Gales, DE Bobby Greenwood, G Darryl Harris, RB Javarris Williams and WR Rodney Wright. We're also expecting to hear that Barry Richardson will be added to the practice squad.
| J. Page | D. Morgan | |||||||||
| J. McGraw | M. Brown | |||||||||
| Free Safety | Strong Safety | |||||||||
| P. Walters | ||||||||||
| T. McBride | D.Johnson | A. Studebaker | ||||||||
| T. Hali | M. Beisel | J. Belcher | M. Vrabel | |||||||
| OLB | D. Williams |
C. Mays | OLB | |||||||
| ILB | ILB | |||||||||
| A. Magee | D. Washington | |||||||||
| R. Colclough | W. Gilberry | T. Tyler | M. Leggett | |||||||
| B. Carr | G. Dorsey | R. Edwards |
T. Jackson |
B. Flowers | ||||||
| Cornerback | Def. End | Nose Tackle | Def. End | Cornerback | ||||||
| Wide Receiver | Tackle | Guard | Center | Guard | Tackle | Tight End | Wide Receiver | |||
| M. Bradley | B. Albert | B. Waters | R. Niswanger | M. Goff | R. O'Callaghan | S. Ryan | T. Copper |
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| B. Engram | W. Smith | A. Alleman |
I. Ndukwe |
B. Cottam | D. Bowe | |||||
| Q. Lawrence | J. O'Connell | |||||||||
| Slot Receiver | ||||||||||
| B. Engram | Quarterback | |||||||||
| Q. Lawrence | Fullback | M. Cassel | Tailback | |||||||
| M. Cox | B. Croyle |
L. Johnson | ||||||||
| T. Thigpen |
J. Battle | |||||||||
| M. Gutierrez |
J. Charles | KR/PR | Punter | |||||||
| Long Snapper | Kicker | D. Savage | Q. Lawrence | D. Colquitt | ||||||
| T. Gafford |
R. Succop | D. Savage | ||||||||
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lots of changes!
I’m sure there will be more…
- Gillberry likely backs up Jackson
- DJ will start again, once the DBowe treatment is done
- Ndukwe starts at RT, until O’Callaghan learns the offense or another T is signed
- I still think they are long one LB (Pierre Walters), one QB (Thigpen) , one RB (Battle or Savage) and maybe 1 CB (Colclough)
- These guys are surely going to be cut for 1-2 OT.. (if they get 2, Indukwe goes back to G and Wade Smith or Goff gets cut)… 1 WR (as long as it’s not Wright)…. and a KR/PR (regardless of position)
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
LB
I should have said that the Chiefs are long 1 LB… McBride or Walters
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
That's where the official chart had him last week...prob will change.
Chiefs go 9-7. LJ makes 1400 yards. DBowe makes 1200 yards. Defense #18.
I see mainly two moves left
They will add OL and cut either QB (Thigpen or Guttierez) or LB (Walters). If the return game doesn’t come out ok, then Wright comes off practice squad in place of one of the three cuts i mentioned.
Chiefs go 9-7. LJ makes 1400 yards. DBowe makes 1200 yards. Defense #18.
Won't happen
now that the “real” season is upon us. This isn’t Joel’s predictions just how the depth chart played out last week before the cuts!
That's a product of the motivational demotion
from the way I’m reading it, he’s just moved things from the roster, and isn’t making judgements here
Cassel vs. Thigpen in Camp should improve the play of both.
Linebackers: looking better
D-lineL slight improvement
O-line: WTF?!?
by Bleedingredandgold on Sep 7, 2009 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions
yep...
Bowe will start, I’m sure
same with Page and DJ
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
Copper
Ensures that KC will get another top 10 pick.
:)
He will be cut before the game on Sunday. I also believe the Chiefs will sign a receiver, with experience actually catching a football.
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Was Copper even targeted in the PS?
or are they planning on melting him down into pennies?
by TDubb on Sep 7, 2009 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
We're holding onto him...
Until we pick up Matt Jones :-)
"The first step to penetration... must not be lateral"
-Confucius, in contrary to Glenn Dorsey lining up in the 2-tech
I'd rather have Marvin Harrison...
And if you disagree i’ll have Marvin shoot you in the knee.
by chicks_love_chiefs on Sep 7, 2009 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions
Lmao.
+1. But would you really want Harrison over Jones?
Personally, I dont want either one but if I had to choose…Jones is younger..a bigger target…faster..everything that a young guy has that the old guy lost.
I think Harrison’s talent has dropped ALOT since 2 seasons ago. Thats why nobody has even tried to sign him yet.
According to that chart we will have the worst strating WR's in the history of the NFL
Obviously Bowe will be starting week 1 (might not play the first down, but I gotta assume he’ll be more involved than any of our other WR’s)
by chicks_love_chiefs on Sep 7, 2009 10:54 AM CDT reply actions
Call me sentimental...
I’m glad to see that Savage seems to have made the team. He still needs polishing, but the kid’s got a lot of heart.
Cassel vs. Thigpen in Camp should improve the play of both.
Linebackers: looking better
D-lineL slight improvement
O-line: WTF?!?
by Bleedingredandgold on Sep 7, 2009 10:56 AM CDT reply actions
+1
O’Callaghan could take over at some point, just not immediately
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
As of the latest depth chart
He was a RG, which is silly since he’s been (I think) almost exclusively at RT.
by Joel Thorman on Sep 7, 2009 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions
These charts are all together silly IMO
McGraw, D. Williams, Copper, and Sean Ryan shouldn’t be starting for any team in the league. Hopefully they won’t really be starting for the Chiefs.
by chicks_love_chiefs on Sep 7, 2009 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions
Add Rudy and Goff to that list also...
but we really don’t have anything better so we’re screwed there, for now.
by chicks_love_chiefs on Sep 7, 2009 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions
And OL...
Maybe slightly better at best, obviously going to be our biggest stain on the season.
by chicks_love_chiefs on Sep 7, 2009 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions
and RB
WR, FB, KR/PR, CB, FS, SS, and P.
by NJ Chiefs Fan on Sep 7, 2009 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions
WR might be better
P will be healthy, everyone’s a year more experienced, but no real upgrades.
Downgrade at TE > Upgrades at positions listed above.
by NJ Chiefs Fan on Sep 7, 2009 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah so much for everyone's prediction about the WR
Alot of people were jazzed about Too-mah and some dude named Ashley. Turns out they will probably be about the same as last year.
by chicks_love_chiefs on Sep 7, 2009 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions
OL should be somewhat better, still with room for improvement obviously.
Albert – not a rookie and in better shape
Waters – maybe in better shape
Niswanger – more experience and in better shape
Goff – should at least be a little better
Ndukwe (O’Callaghan) – has to be an improvement
In fact, overall, this is a better unit than last Spring.
Now they just need to work together
DE's
We may cover that hole by moving to the 2-5 and blitzing Some of our OLB’s are really stand up DE’s
I think the D will be fine
Touchdown
Kan..Sa...CITY
-Mitch Holthus
Nice chart.
Beats mine by a mile, just for readability. Having problems with table to this medium.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
I think Gilberry's behind Jackson, too.
McBride had a nice TFL from SOLB, too.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
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