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Kansas City Chiefs Release Bernard Pollard, 12 Others

The Kansas City Chiefs have just announced the final round of cuts to get down to the league mandated 53 man roster.

Biggest shocker?  Bernard Pollard.  Wow.

Offense Defense
TE Tom Crabtree CB Jackie Bates
G Darryl Harris DE Dion Gales
WR Taurus Johnson DE Bobby Greenwood
WR Ashley Lelie DT Derek Lokey
RB Javarris Williams S Bernard Pollard
WR Rodney Wright LB Zach Thomas
G Colin Brown (IR) S Ricky Price

After the jump, we take a look at the circumstances surrounding each of the cuts.

Star-divide

The following were released:

S Bernard Pollard

Wow.  There were trade rumors recently and apparently they had some legs.  This is far and away the most shocking move by the Chiefs.

Frankly, I don't understand this move.  This leaves DaJuan Morgan, who was injured for much of last season as a rookie, and Mike Brown, who has been injured much of the last five years, as your strong safeties.

CB Jackie Bates

This shouldn't be much of a surprise.  The Chiefs decided to keep five cornerbacks and it was down to Bates or Ricardo Colclough.  Colclough has been a return man in the past and provides a little more experience.

TE Tom Crabree

It's not surprising, either.  This leaves three tight ends on the Chiefs roster (Sean Ryan, Brad Cottam and Jake O'Connell).  Crabtree had a couple of nice plays in last week's game against the Rams but ultimately it came down to a numbers game.  Remember, the Chiefs gave up a draft pick in a trade to get O'Connell.

DE Dion Gales

A little surprised here.  Gales didn't necessarily separate himself but the Chiefs will be a little low on defensive ends.

DE Bobby Greenwood

See above.

G Darryl Harris

I thought about the best chance he had to make the team was due to the low number of offensive linemen.  Harris' name was rarely mentioned and ultimately proved to be expendable.

WR Taurus Johnson

Chiefs had a lot of wide receivers and, for a position where they needed playmakers, he apparently couldn't cut it.  It doesn't help that he didn't return kicks and/or punts as well.

WR Ashley Lelie

A little surprising considering he showed a little promise and is one of the few Chiefs receivers with some experience.  He's a fast receiver and the Chiefs don't really have that right now.

DT Derek Lokey

He was playing nose tackle behind Tank Tyler and Ron Edwards.  It was going to be tough to beat out one of those guys.

S Ricky Price

Again, a numbers game.  He couldn't beat out Jon McGraw and starter Jarrad Page.

LB Zach Thomas

Rumored to be injured and looking at retirement.  Apparently he was healthy enough for the Chiefs to part ways with him without an injury settlement.

RB Javarris Williams

The Chiefs 7th round draft pick and the only draftee released.  He's certainly eligible for the practice squad.

WR Rodney Wright

29 year old player who hasn't shown much thus far.

Placed on Injured Reserve

G Colin Brown

When did he have an injury?  Behind Pollard, this is the second most surprising move.  There were no indications he was injured.  He was the team's fifth round draft pick.

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Pollard

Must have been a negative player all summer.

I can’t believe he had no trade value.

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by Peterman700 on Sep 5, 2009 5:57 PM CDT reply actions  

This is such shit!!!!

Four EFFING QB’s but POLLARD has to go….

Bullshit!!!

by texaschief on Sep 5, 2009 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

I just Hope

like hell he doesnt end up in the AFC West! He’ll be playing for blood.

by JohnNdallas on Sep 5, 2009 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

COME ON!

I agree about the 4 QBs but that won’t last beyond a few weeks. Which Berand Pollard was you watchng for the last 2 years? The one that was out of position 90% of the time or the one that could not tackle 90% of the time.
The tackles he made were a product of bad DL and LB play. It hurts to be exposed to the truth but this move will have no impact on the Chiefs…unless Bernard changes the way he plays.

by NFL season ticket holder on Sep 5, 2009 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

No

Nice job completely making up those numbers. It’s not Pollard’s fault the DL and LB play were terrible last season. This is a horrible mistake by the Chiefs. Even if they benched him, or just used him on special teams.

by T-Rich on Sep 5, 2009 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

+1 on special teams

remember what he did on punt blocks? those were the days…

by TDubb on Sep 5, 2009 11:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

NOOOOO

i miss Pollard already

by Stan13ag on Sep 5, 2009 5:57 PM CDT reply actions  

So Drew...

doesnt get paid? LMAO

"But what do I know, I'm AP's new assclown and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"

by Lanier63 on Sep 5, 2009 5:57 PM CDT reply actions  

Interesting.

I have a feeling cutting Pollard is a big mistake. I do believe another team is going to jump on him fast and he will have a BIG year….

by Chiefsfan85 on Sep 5, 2009 5:57 PM CDT reply actions  

Bullshit.

You can’t tell me we couldn’t get a single draft pick for Pollard. What a fucking waste.

And…do we have any freaking O Linemen left now?

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by DThomasReigns on Sep 5, 2009 5:58 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm telling you EXACTLY that.

There were no takers, apparently.

No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.

by hmills110 on Sep 5, 2009 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly

Why not cut a guy like Copper that no one is going to pick up anyway and try to work Pollard for a trade?

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by ChiefDJ on Sep 5, 2009 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

DT Reigns you said it.....that's horseshit!!

How in the hell are they gonna tell us they couldn’t get a single thing for him anywhere? I am in disbelief here. How could this happen?? I don’t care he’s gone I just can’t believe we just cut him…they gotta have someone in mind … please God tell me they do!

by krayfish on Sep 5, 2009 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Many changes

between now and midweek. Hoping that O-Line is on it’s way. Damn, I sure liked “Bonecrusher” Though.

Can't wait to put my pads on a Raider, My Helmet on a Hater. I'm the Arrowhead Gladiator!!

by ArrowheadGladiator on Sep 5, 2009 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

+1000

Can’t fn believe it. Another reason to hate some personnel in KC.

I don’t know if I’ll get over this like TG. BP had lot of value, he was the leader of one of the best secondaries in the league.

"Larry Fitzgerald, move over because there's another young gun, and his name is Dwayne Bowe from Kansas City" - 2009 Cris Carter Hall of Fame WR

In Pioli We Trust! Right?

by KC Nate on Sep 5, 2009 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Right move

Which Berand Pollard was you watchng for the last 2 years? The one that was out of position 90% of the time or the one that could not tackle 90% of the time.
The tackles he made were a product of bad DL and LB play. It hurts to be exposed to the truth but this move will have no impact on the Chiefs…unless Bernard changes the way he plays.

by NFL season ticket holder on Sep 5, 2009 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, you should really

quit making shit up. There was absolutely no reason, from my viewpoint, to keep both Morgan and Brown over Pollard.

by Seth_C on Sep 5, 2009 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

I am speechless here

Not that I loved Pollard, but I can’t believe the just cut him

by mushin on Sep 5, 2009 5:58 PM CDT reply actions  

Smart move to put brown on the IR

he would of never made it past waivers
HE IS NOT HURT

"Whenever you go to a live sporting event, always bring a seeing eye dog and cane, just incase the refs forgot their's at home."

by Chiefsuntilidie on Sep 5, 2009 5:58 PM CDT reply actions  

Kinda how I'm thinking, too.

No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.

by hmills110 on Sep 5, 2009 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

how the hell can you keep a guy like terrence copper

and just keep 5 safeties – with pollard. the hell is the matter with pioli.

by CHIEFER on Sep 5, 2009 5:58 PM CDT reply actions  

dang

I will miss pollard Im kinda suprised Lelie didnt make it either

by tomahawk44 on Sep 5, 2009 5:58 PM CDT reply actions  

Just remember, Pioli did this before with Lawyer Milloy in NE

The fans there were outraged too. It worked out. I’m not happy, but I’ll wait and see

by mushin on Sep 5, 2009 5:59 PM CDT reply actions  

Sorry for jumping the gun Joel

Just wanted Ap to have the news ASAP

is it me? or isn't about time the Lamar Hunt trophy belonged to His team?

I’m a Chiefs fan Dammit and I’m damn proud of it!

by KC Fanatic on Sep 5, 2009 5:59 PM CDT reply actions  

I for one am starting to wonder about these guys.

Copper stays and Pollard’s gone? WTF is that???

Lelie too?

Pioli is a dumbass…Sorry.

by Chiefsfan1970 on Sep 5, 2009 5:59 PM CDT reply actions  

Did you see all of Training Camp? Did you see how Pollard reacted in Team meetings?

The players will do it the Haley / Pioli way. Pollard apparently wasn’t on the same page as the coach and GM.

by WesternChief on Sep 5, 2009 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Argument

He also was the mouthiest guy in camp… He also got in the DC face… You think that was going to fly with Haley?

by flyin_squirl on Sep 5, 2009 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Drops

Dont forget that if we pick someone up through waivers we have to drop someone right away… Cooper is not going to be on the roster long…

by flyin_squirl on Sep 5, 2009 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pioli is the new King

Which Berand Pollard was you watchng for the last 2 years? The one that was out of position 90% of the time or the one that could not tackle 90% of the time.
The tackles he made were a product of bad DL and LB play. It hurts to be exposed to the truth but this move will have no impact on the Chiefs…unless Bernard changes the way he plays.

by NFL season ticket holder on Sep 5, 2009 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

seriously

are you related to “hermstehman” on the star’s website? he posts the same way you do. Nonsensical copy and paste….

by TDubb on Sep 5, 2009 11:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

which NFLsth is this?

the one who makes up stuff 90% of the time, or the one who didn’t tell the truth 90% of the time?

Admiti it: you hate Pollard for other reasons than performance, since you cannot quote facts.

Cassel vs. Thigpen in Camp should improve the play of both.
Linebackers: looking better
D-lineL slight improvement
O-line: WTF?!?

by Bleedingredandgold on Sep 6, 2009 3:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

I agree...

this guys copy and paste is mindless. But, I have to agree that Pollard has never been a good player for us. He was a poor man’s Roy Williams and that is saying a lot considering Roy sucks. It was the right move and 31 other teams agree with my opinion considering he hasn’t been picked up.

by I_Bleed_Red. on Sep 7, 2009 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

You dont cut Pollard.

You trade him at worst case scenario. You even cut someone else to hold on to him to buy yourself time to trade him

"Success is never ending, failure is never final."

by GenericBrand on Sep 5, 2009 5:59 PM CDT reply actions  

our deep threat""

lelie was supposed to be – bowe, bradley, engram, copper, lawrence…thats who were flying with? we;ve GOT to be bringing some other people in what the hell.

by CHIEFER on Sep 5, 2009 5:59 PM CDT reply actions  

lol!

Yeah, we keep Dropper and release a decent vet Lelie. HAHA!

by Chiefsfan85 on Sep 5, 2009 5:59 PM CDT reply actions  

wow

good way to think about it – if that was the case i would lose all respect for the regime.

by CHIEFER on Sep 5, 2009 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tomorrows headlines

Pioli resigns as Chiefs General Manager, Haley gone too.

"Larry Fitzgerald, move over because there's another young gun, and his name is Dwayne Bowe from Kansas City" - 2009 Cris Carter Hall of Fame WR

In Pioli We Trust! Right?

by KC Nate on Sep 5, 2009 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ball skills.

No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.

by hmills110 on Sep 5, 2009 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

ball skills

dajuan morgan made 1 interception dude. and pollard had a handful, he proved it last year he can be a ball hawk.

by CHIEFER on Sep 5, 2009 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

non-coverage

Looking to make the big hit, he constantly got burnt in coverage!

by ttownmikey on Sep 5, 2009 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why are you baffled

Which Berand Pollard was you watchng for the last 2 years? The one that was out of position 90% of the time or the one that could not tackle 90% of the time.
The tackles he made were a product of bad DL and LB play. It hurts to be exposed to the truth but this move will have no impact on the Chiefs…unless Bernard changes the way he plays.

by NFL season ticket holder on Sep 5, 2009 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Did you

seriously just copy/paste that same comment several times throughout this post? WE GOT IT!

by Petey14 on Sep 5, 2009 9:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes. Yes he did.

Bask in the glory that is Kwame Harris. Poor Alex...

by JHWK on Sep 5, 2009 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

he's just a hater

Cassel vs. Thigpen in Camp should improve the play of both.
Linebackers: looking better
D-lineL slight improvement
O-line: WTF?!?

by Bleedingredandgold on Sep 6, 2009 3:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

seriously

this is like the 4th time I have read this same dang comment, we get it already! Hermstheman is that you?

"You can't polish a turd", old guy, Christine
"Let your anger be, like a monkey in a pinata, hiding amongst the candy, hoping the kids don't break through with their sticks!" Master Payne, King Pow

by mugglemage on Sep 5, 2009 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

+1

i made the comment earlier in the thread and then saw yours….lol

by TDubb on Sep 5, 2009 11:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think Pioli just lost some credibility.

If we release Copper, even if we want him, he’ll still be sitting there tomorrow. Pollard will be gone before dinner.

"Success is never ending, failure is never final."

by GenericBrand on Sep 5, 2009 6:00 PM CDT reply actions  

Detroit

will be blowing up pollard’s phone

by SillyHatDay on Sep 5, 2009 6:00 PM CDT reply actions  

they probably already signed him

"Whenever you go to a live sporting event, always bring a seeing eye dog and cane, just incase the refs forgot their's at home."

by Chiefsuntilidie on Sep 5, 2009 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

maybe it was a

hey detroit…we’ll release pollard…and you let this guy through the waiver wire without claiming him

by KCCheeze on Sep 5, 2009 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

shocked

i really think Lelie got no chance at all to showcase himself and when he was in he di pretty good but pollard was the shocker….. no trade at all …..

How the hell did that happen? I am Trailblazer fan to the core but I love me some OKC THunder!!! Must be the Hometown pride I feel.

I'll Say it now so you guys can know I'm a true follower: "In Pioli I Trust"
Go Chiefs!!!!!

by bouzi on Sep 5, 2009 6:00 PM CDT reply actions  

Don't panic

Pollard was

weak in coverage
constantly out of position
didn’t wrap up

They clearly wanted to send a message, the whole “no sacred cows” thing. I really don’t think we’ll miss him, but I know I’m in the minority. I’m actually more bummed about Lelie.

The Good: Hiring Pioli and Haley, Drafting Tyson Jackson
The Bad: The Offensive Line Play
The Ugly: Thigpen Trying to Play QB

by KCporkchop on Sep 5, 2009 6:00 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

^This

Holy Shit!!!...Peterson resigned...Am I dead?...Is This Heaven?

by RoyalsFanStuckInCardsLand on Sep 5, 2009 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

But he was worth at least a 7th rounder

I can’t believe we couldn’t get even a 7th for him. Maybe there was more to him mouthing off and the argument with Pendy than we realize.

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Future Mrs. DTR

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by DThomasReigns on Sep 5, 2009 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

hmmm.

He was weak in coverage but a big hitter. He missed a few tackles but what chief didn’t? Wasn’t too bad in position.

by Chiefsfan85 on Sep 5, 2009 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

agreed

Lelie is who we should be bummed about ….. Copper better become Fitz by week 10

How the hell did that happen? I am Trailblazer fan to the core but I love me some OKC THunder!!! Must be the Hometown pride I feel.

I'll Say it now so you guys can know I'm a true follower: "In Pioli I Trust"
Go Chiefs!!!!!

by bouzi on Sep 5, 2009 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

our WRS

Dwayne Bowe, Mark Bradley, Bobby Engram, Terrence Copper, Quinten Lawrence

by CHIEFER on Sep 5, 2009 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

hilarious ….. was that a joke….. oh it wasn’t

thats our WR corps ….. ok sorry bud

How the hell did that happen? I am Trailblazer fan to the core but I love me some OKC THunder!!! Must be the Hometown pride I feel.

I'll Say it now so you guys can know I'm a true follower: "In Pioli I Trust"
Go Chiefs!!!!!

by bouzi on Sep 5, 2009 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'll buy that.

I am more bummed about Lelie too.

by Chiefsfan1970 on Sep 5, 2009 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

you arent convincing me

that releasing pollard was the best thing for this team. no way- idc how bad in coverage he was this pre-season he was a starter all year last year and had over 100 tackles. thats saying something.

by CHIEFER on Sep 5, 2009 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

he shouldn't have had that many tackles

the front 7 should have been taking care of them. and they didn’t. The only thing I can think of is Pollard wasn’t getting with the program.

by TDubb on Sep 5, 2009 11:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bummed about Lelie?

A guy who hasn’t been able to stick with a team for years?

B.S.

Just because you’re fast doesn’t make you good and he’s not that good.

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by ChiefDJ on Sep 5, 2009 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not that good???

Better than Terrence fucking Copper!!!!

by Chiefsfan1970 on Sep 5, 2009 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

PLUSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS ONEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

"Whenever you go to a live sporting event, always bring a seeing eye dog and cane, just incase the refs forgot their's at home."

by Chiefsuntilidie on Sep 5, 2009 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

In KC's estimation, yes, Copper's better than Lelie.

No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.

by hmills110 on Sep 5, 2009 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Did he even catch a pass in the preseason?

I don’t remember ever actually seeing Copper on the field and I only missed about a half’s worth of the preseason…

Bask in the glory that is Kwame Harris. Poor Alex...

by JHWK on Sep 5, 2009 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

maybe

cooper should be “mysteriously” on IR instead of Brown?

by TDubb on Sep 5, 2009 11:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's a bullshit excuse

At minimum we should have traded him. Just giving him up for ABSOLUTELY NOTHING is retarded.

Bask in the glory that is Kwame Harris. Poor Alex...

by JHWK on Sep 5, 2009 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

They shopped him. Nobody took 'em up on it.

This says more about the safeties they kept and urgent needs, elsewhere.

No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.

by hmills110 on Sep 5, 2009 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Retarded was keeping him

Which Berand Pollard was you watchng for the last 2 years? The one that was out of position 90% of the time or the one that could not tackle 90% of the time.
The tackles he made were a product of bad DL and LB play. It hurts to be exposed to the truth but this move will have no impact on the Chiefs…unless Bernard changes the way he plays.

by NFL season ticket holder on Sep 5, 2009 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

NFL season ticket holder

which NFL season ticket holder hae you been wathing the last two days, the one who made shit up 90% of the time, or the one who pasted the same shit 90% of the time?

Grow a pair, and have something to day besides repeating the same shit.

Cassel vs. Thigpen in Camp should improve the play of both.
Linebackers: looking better
D-lineL slight improvement
O-line: WTF?!?

by Bleedingredandgold on Sep 6, 2009 3:21 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

You're not alone, porkchop.

No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.

by hmills110 on Sep 5, 2009 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Finally somebody that has been paying attention.

Everybody is blinded by those couple punt blocks his first year.

by Justin Bopp on Sep 5, 2009 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's a cop out to try and make those of us arguing in his favor

seem like idiots.

We’ve got every right to pissed that we literally just gave away a 4 year starter in exchange for a 2nd year player that had ONE good game against the 3rd stringers of the only team to be worse than us last year not named Detriot and a guy that has had more injuries the last few years than Brodie.

Yeah, sounds like I’m just blinded by homerism!

Bask in the glory that is Kwame Harris. Poor Alex...

by JHWK on Sep 5, 2009 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's not just homerism

The thing I think I see everyone missing here is something that Looney said early on today. It’s about who fits the 3-4 far more than it is the names. This is why a lot of the D line was cut and Pollard as well. Period.

There has been a bit of discussion on here about whether or not our backfield would be able to adjust to a 3-4 instead of the Tampon 2. This is a major answer to those debates we have had. Obviously most of the guys were able to make the transition. Pollard could not. They tried to move him and could not. So now he is gone. Doesn’t mean anyone here is a blind homer…just means Pollard didn’t fit the scheme. And yes, he will likely be playing elsewhere.

Chiefs go 9-7. LJ makes 1400 yards. DBowe makes 1200 yards. Defense #18.

by Zodeman on Sep 5, 2009 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

if he will be plaing elsewhere,,,

he has /some/ trade value. If that value wasn’t extracted, it’s a ding on Pioli, unless SP’s gonna grab critical talent, and fast, and needed the space.

Cassel vs. Thigpen in Camp should improve the play of both.
Linebackers: looking better
D-lineL slight improvement
O-line: WTF?!?

by Bleedingredandgold on Sep 6, 2009 3:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

so

keep him and put him back on special teams. we need the help

by TDubb on Sep 5, 2009 11:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

weak in coverage; constantly out of position; didn’t wrap up

Agreed. He could lay some monster hits, but he is kind of a one-trick-pony.

Rectal Froth

by The Donger on Sep 5, 2009 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Very disapointed

in losing Pollard and Lelie. Should have kept Lelie over Copper. They better be making this right soon with some good signings

by MTCHIEF on Sep 5, 2009 6:01 PM CDT reply actions  

why

Would you think that

by hock57 on Sep 5, 2009 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

hmm

We hope he is fine…

by Chiefsfan85 on Sep 5, 2009 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

because they are trying to off load croyle, thigy, to anyone they can for dp's

"Whenever you go to a live sporting event, always bring a seeing eye dog and cane, just incase the refs forgot their's at home."

by Chiefsuntilidie on Sep 5, 2009 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

maybe they haven;t decided

who to cut yet? and maybe we’ll sign 3 solid vets(including 1 QB) and cut croyle, thigpen and copper

by TDubb on Sep 5, 2009 11:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

If history has taught us anything

Pollard will sign with a team and have a ring at the end of the season.

by NJ Chiefs Fan on Sep 5, 2009 6:02 PM CDT reply actions  

Waived and doubt he'll clear waivers.

Hello Detroit.

"Success is never ending, failure is never final."

by GenericBrand on Sep 5, 2009 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pollard will be a Detroit Lion within a couple hrs.

No way Gunther passes up on him.

"Success is never ending, failure is never final."

by GenericBrand on Sep 5, 2009 6:02 PM CDT reply actions  

i dont get it

why not just keep 5 safeties- cut one mid season, atleast entertain trade talks. a 7th atleast! what the hell.

by CHIEFER on Sep 5, 2009 6:02 PM CDT reply actions  

Urgent needs elsewhere. Have no use for a veteran that isn't AHEAD of the learning curve.

Just throwing out ideas.

No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.

by hmills110 on Sep 5, 2009 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know about you guys

But after this… I Need A Beer!

is it me? or isn't about time the Lamar Hunt trophy belonged to His team?

I’m a Chiefs fan Dammit and I’m damn proud of it!

by KC Fanatic on Sep 5, 2009 6:03 PM CDT reply actions  

All I have is rum

Can't wait to put my pads on a Raider, My Helmet on a Hater. I'm the Arrowhead Gladiator!!

by ArrowheadGladiator on Sep 5, 2009 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rum beer Whiskey It will all work

is it me? or isn't about time the Lamar Hunt trophy belonged to His team?

I’m a Chiefs fan Dammit and I’m damn proud of it!

by KC Fanatic on Sep 5, 2009 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

1 bourban 1 scotch 1 beer please

Len Dawson:

"Lamar Hunt had a dream and, the thing is, we had dreams, too. Just imagine the number of people that he has touched because he said, 'I'm going after this dream."'

by smokin iowa chief on Sep 5, 2009 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Speaking of which

I am trying, for my first time as I type this, some stuff called “Wild Turkey American Honey”.

The bottle says: “Exceptionally Smooth Liqueur Blended With Pure Honey And Bourbon Whiskey”. 71 Proof

Good shizzle. I am mixing it with 7 Up (cuz it’s all I have), but I bet it would be awesome with Cream Soda.

The Donger recommends (they should put THAT on the bottle).

Rectal Froth

by The Donger on Sep 5, 2009 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

what does it say about our team

when last year’s top tackler gets cut?

by ChiefsDude on Sep 5, 2009 6:03 PM CDT reply actions  

It says last years linebackers all sucked !

"But what do I know, I'm AP's new assclown and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"

by Lanier63 on Sep 5, 2009 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

lol

Our front 7… our defensive scheme…

by ChiefsDude on Sep 5, 2009 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Top miss tackler as well

Which Berand Pollard was you watchng for the last 2 years? The one that was out of position 90% of the time or the one that could not tackle 90% of the time.
The tackles he made were a product of bad DL and LB play. It hurts to be exposed to the truth but this move will have no impact on the Chiefs…unless Bernard changes the way he plays.

by NFL season ticket holder on Sep 5, 2009 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol

You can’t tell me that Keeping Copper was a better move than cutting Pollard?

by Chiefsfan85 on Sep 5, 2009 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Big damn deal

He also was one of our top tacklers and in on a lot of turnovers and played harder than about anyone else on the field.

If thats not a Pioli guy, I don’t know what is. Maybe our great coach should TEACH him how to tackle better.

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by ChiefDJ on Sep 5, 2009 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

john mcgraw is a pioli guy

a guy who made 3 big hits against a arena football team;’s backups.

by CHIEFER on Sep 5, 2009 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

because I'm sure they didn't TRY

same with Edwards and his staff. Uncoachable? Pollard is a hot head who tries to go for the big hit too often and often comes up short. He said himself during the beginning of this off season that him and Haley had had disagreements about how aggressive he wanted him to play. This really isn’t and should not be a big suprise

I don't want no Yo-Yos

by AK_47 on Sep 5, 2009 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

The surprise, and this should give Pollard man-love victims pause, ...

… is that, when shopped, Pollard elicited zero trade interest in 31 other teams.

No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.

by hmills110 on Sep 5, 2009 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

unable to adjust to the 3-4

I think this is an example of a D-back who could play tampa 2 but did not adjust to a 3-4 scheme. Not to mention mouthy as hell.

Chiefs go 9-7. LJ makes 1400 yards. DBowe makes 1200 yards. Defense #18.

by Zodeman on Sep 5, 2009 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pollard

was miscast in the tampa 2. Pollard is a traditional hard-hitting, run supporting Strong Safety. BUT you are right partially because he was unable to adjust to the 3-4.

SS’s in the 3-4 are used somewhat like the Cover 2. Not quite the same, but somewhat identical. Because there are 4 LB’s in the 3-4, theres less need for support by a SSafety, so the SSafety tends to be in coverage more often. This is why I think Brown and Morgan fit the position better. Morgan is also a hard hitter but he showed hes decent in coverage. Sure, theres the arguement that he played good in only one game, but I’m sure hes been making plays when he has been practicing.

Morgan was on the verge of being cut because he was injured through so much of training camp. But he got healthy, got on the field and made an impact. He got into a game and made an impact. Hes only a 2nd year player, so I think he deserves to be looked at. Brown is a balanced guy (hitter, coverage) and Morgan will benefit him more than Pollard.

BUT…I dont think you cut Pollard in the process. Not quite yet. But, in all fairness, hes better fit for a traditional 4-3 defense as a SS. Something that would fit in Gunthers system (the Cover 2 that Gunther ran under Herm is NOT his system)

Pollard to the Lions. Out of the division, out of the conference. No problem to us.

by Petey14 on Sep 5, 2009 10:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Morgan

will benefit FROM him (Brown) more than Pollard***

by Petey14 on Sep 5, 2009 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Beautiful

Classic thanks for sharing… Every Pollard fan needs to watch this….LOL

by NFL season ticket holder on Sep 5, 2009 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Prediction;

Aaron Francisco will take Pollards spot!

by jrpjr421 on Sep 5, 2009 6:04 PM CDT reply actions  

Could be.

Theyre the same type of player. More of a guy up on the line to stop the run and not a very good coverage guy. Difference is Francisco is a ST beast.

"Success is never ending, failure is never final."

by GenericBrand on Sep 5, 2009 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think Antigo Montoya will fill the spot

Some 6 fingered man killed his father. He got vengenace and is now looking for work. Be a good signing for us

by mushin on Sep 5, 2009 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Inigo...

Inigo Montoya

"The first step to penetration... must not be lateral"
-Confucius, in contrary to Glenn Dorsey lining up in the 2-tech

by ArrowSpread on Sep 5, 2009 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Prepare to

Die

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by ArrowheadGladiator on Sep 5, 2009 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

was he cut?

Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.

by 808NaNz808 on Sep 5, 2009 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ya yesterday francisco cut.

"Success is never ending, failure is never final."

by GenericBrand on Sep 5, 2009 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pollard?

Pollard? No seriously Pollard. Sure there wasnt a typo?

by BRONCO_BUSTER on Sep 5, 2009 6:04 PM CDT reply actions  

+1

He had to be worth something. I would guess minimum a 5th.

"Success is never ending, failure is never final."

by GenericBrand on Sep 5, 2009 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have never cussed on this site

but this is fucking bullshit. You can’t convince me that cutting Pollard makes ANY sense. Fuck you Pioli and Haley. You just dropped about 20 points for me. Pollard is AT LEAST a special teams stud. But hey, go out and pick up Tyree instead. Fucking ignorant. I’ve been on the Haley and Pioli bandwagon from day one, but fuck these guys. I’m out. You get rid of a fan favorite in Tony, but you get some worth out of him, that’s one thing. CUT a guy who makes nothing, go to hell.

by KCMizzou on Sep 5, 2009 6:05 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

How the hell would you know that?

He played Special Teams his first year here despite being a 2nd round pick. That was just a couple years ago.

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by ChiefDJ on Sep 5, 2009 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cocky guys, which pollard is

tend not to like being demoted to let an old man or a young kid take his spot. Locker room cancer? He sure does like to talk…and dance

I don't want no Yo-Yos

by AK_47 on Sep 5, 2009 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good points.

And the next team that hires him, he’ll be ALL eager to play STs for ‘em, to help secure employment, even if it would’ve been tough to get that to happen in KC, where I think he felt he was entitled to things he wasn’t.

No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.

by hmills110 on Sep 5, 2009 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

college starter

to ST in the NFL is a promotion.

by TDubb on Sep 5, 2009 11:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

wow.....

You act like hes adrian peterson……. calm the fuck down

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by SuperTurtle on Sep 5, 2009 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

hahaha

How the hell did that happen? I am Trailblazer fan to the core but I love me some OKC THunder!!! Must be the Hometown pride I feel.

I'll Say it now so you guys can know I'm a true follower: "In Pioli I Trust"
Go Chiefs!!!!!

by bouzi on Sep 5, 2009 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm sorry,

I was under the impression this regime wanted football guys. You can’t tell me Pollard isn’t a player.

by KCMizzou on Sep 5, 2009 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

he can play football

Great in a 4-3 tampa 2 but not a guy who fit in a 3-4. We were warned there would be surprises because of guys not making the switch well. He can and will play but not here…and apparently other teams weren’t too keen on him either…except for free.

Chiefs go 9-7. LJ makes 1400 yards. DBowe makes 1200 yards. Defense #18.

by Zodeman on Sep 5, 2009 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Your Wrong...

Clancies system calls for safeties to blitz and play up close. They also play zone too. t6his had nothing to do with this play. It has everything to do with the arguements which im sure Haley was at fault for. i would say pollard but who doesnt haley argue with. Haley puts his pride in front of his job, but it doesnt matter I wouldnt be surprised if he is gone in 2 years. Hey I got an Idea lets release Albert why were at it. Or maybe all the safties. GO HALEY. Awesome proven coach. Fuck give me McDaniels over haley, lol , well not mc d but anyone else.

by dougritchey on Sep 5, 2009 11:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

AP

if that was ap being cut. holy hell watch out.

"Larry Fitzgerald, move over because there's another young gun, and his name is Dwayne Bowe from Kansas City" - 2009 Cris Carter Hall of Fame WR

In Pioli We Trust! Right?

by KC Nate on Sep 5, 2009 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

LOL

Nothing better than a meltdown.

by Justin Bopp on Sep 5, 2009 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm calm now...

sorta. I was already not please when there was trade talk, but I understood it. But to just flat out cut the guy? It blew my mind. And yes, for a moment the sky was falling. But this team is BAD. I just can’t understand how a baller like Pollard doesn’t make the team.

by KCMizzou on Sep 5, 2009 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

20 points out of...?

just curious about what sort of scale we’re talking here.

by ExtraMetal on Sep 5, 2009 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'll miss Pollard

But I’m glad it wasn’t DJ.

Cantaloupe? More like wontaloupe. Lazy ass melons.

by cucuybird on Sep 5, 2009 6:06 PM CDT reply actions  

"top" tackler

He had the most tackles cuz we sucked and he was the last line of “defense” ..I Don’t know why everyones upset about this Pioli LOVES draft picks so OBVIOUSLY nobody wanted to trade for him….and I’m gonna keep saying this hes NOT A GOOD SAFETY…should’ve tried him out as a pass rushing LB in the 3-4 I thought he’d do better there…oh well…we bitch when Herm just gave him the job…we bitch cuz he can’t cover…and now we’re bitching cuz we just cut em? OH WELL

by KCinIL on Sep 5, 2009 6:06 PM CDT reply actions  

Cover 2

Doesn’t that give him alot of opportunity last season to ring up tackles?

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by ArrowheadGladiator on Sep 5, 2009 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not terrible IMO

Not great but not terrible.

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by Chris Thorman on Sep 5, 2009 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

I noticed I wasn't cringing any more when I saw #47 on the field.

Saw some good stuff from him on the regular D – better than just a guy counting on STs to guarantee him a job, no matter how shitty he was in regular D, which was what he looked like to me in ’08.

No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.

by hmills110 on Sep 5, 2009 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

just goes to show

you can NEVER expect to be right with predictting hte way this team will fluctuate. i hope we have some stuff cooking in the oven..thats all im sayin

by CHIEFER on Sep 5, 2009 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

it has a lot to do with him not doing things their way and cussing clancy out in practice.

by jrpjr421 on Sep 5, 2009 6:06 PM CDT reply actions  

This was not expected but

I’m not going to write off the season just yet. The shy is not falling (God I hope it isn’t)

is it me? or isn't about time the Lamar Hunt trophy belonged to His team?

I’m a Chiefs fan Dammit and I’m damn proud of it!

by KC Fanatic on Sep 5, 2009 6:06 PM CDT reply actions  

Oh yea McBride is stil around :)

"Success is never ending, failure is never final."

by GenericBrand on Sep 5, 2009 6:07 PM CDT reply actions  

really why

smart moves all around …. C brown on IR cut a locker room detractions in Pollard

How the hell did that happen? I am Trailblazer fan to the core but I love me some OKC THunder!!! Must be the Hometown pride I feel.

I'll Say it now so you guys can know I'm a true follower: "In Pioli I Trust"
Go Chiefs!!!!!

by bouzi on Sep 5, 2009 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

He was that, Remeber him dancing on Hard Knocks that made us look great last year

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by 90,32,58,31,16 on Sep 5, 2009 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

hard to agree

it was “smart” to give up pollard for anything less than a bag of footballs

by Stan13ag on Sep 5, 2009 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

well it seems we did try to trade him

from the rumors we read …no trade=cut ….

How the hell did that happen? I am Trailblazer fan to the core but I love me some OKC THunder!!! Must be the Hometown pride I feel.

I'll Say it now so you guys can know I'm a true follower: "In Pioli I Trust"
Go Chiefs!!!!!

by bouzi on Sep 5, 2009 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

you cant ignore the fact

that its months away from the trade deadline and we weren’t forced to cut him.

by Stan13ag on Sep 5, 2009 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

No one gave anything for him

because we tried move him days before he’d be floating free on the market for anyone to sign.

Bask in the glory that is Kwame Harris. Poor Alex...

by JHWK on Sep 5, 2009 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bouzi

How do you know he was a locker room distraction? Just because others are saying he is? If LJ isnt a cancer in the locker room anymore, idk how pollard could be…

by Wrestler189s on Sep 5, 2009 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

You may be cut next Thorman!:)

Now hopefully this team is fun to watch again! Thanks Scott, Clark!!

by Eric Allen on Sep 5, 2009 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pioli and Brady

Not to sound like a conspiracy theorist but I wonder as close as Brady and Pioli are if he was dead set against getting rid of Pollard after losing his star Quarterback Last year and still had the bad taste left in his mouth.. Either wasy this was a mistake.

by bradvan on Sep 5, 2009 6:08 PM CDT reply actions  

that makes no sesne, Pollard will still end up one someone's roster

If that was the case Pioli would keep Pollard on the bench and not cut him so he can go somewhere else and take out Cassel

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1. Chiefs will win ATLEAST 6 games, which is a big improvement over 6 wins in 2 seasons
2. Succop will bring stability to the K position for the first time in years
3. Chiefs D will atleast double the number of sacks form last season
4. Cassel will be a top 15 QB
5. Todd Haley won't make a poster and jump around holding it up welcoming the Chiefs players to summer camp, I mean TRAINING camp

by Chiefs_KC on Sep 5, 2009 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

MCBRIDE IS STILL HERE I JUST FORGOT

GREAT! Pollard could be a hell of a better option at linebacker than fucking mcbride. we shouldve atleast tried bernard there. what the fuck.

by CHIEFER on Sep 5, 2009 6:08 PM CDT reply actions  

Pollard's tackling skills (or lack thereof)

Always tries to go for the big hit and whiffs completely sometimes

2009-10 Predictions:
1. Chiefs will win ATLEAST 6 games, which is a big improvement over 6 wins in 2 seasons
2. Succop will bring stability to the K position for the first time in years
3. Chiefs D will atleast double the number of sacks form last season
4. Cassel will be a top 15 QB
5. Todd Haley won't make a poster and jump around holding it up welcoming the Chiefs players to summer camp, I mean TRAINING camp

by Chiefs_KC on Sep 5, 2009 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

one of each

gets cut

How the hell did that happen? I am Trailblazer fan to the core but I love me some OKC THunder!!! Must be the Hometown pride I feel.

I'll Say it now so you guys can know I'm a true follower: "In Pioli I Trust"
Go Chiefs!!!!!

by bouzi on Sep 5, 2009 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Most teams carry 3 TEs

But yea a Qb will go eventrually.

"Success is never ending, failure is never final."

by GenericBrand on Sep 5, 2009 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pollard Had a Blow up in the Face of the Defensive Cord not even a couple of weeks ago!!! What do you Expect???? Pioli and Haley wont put up with crap like that no matter who you are!! Pollard wasnt good in coverage either sloppy tackler..

by RedBowe82 on Sep 5, 2009 6:08 PM CDT reply actions  

problem is

there’s NO FUCKING DEPTH now because Morgan may as well be a rook considering his experience last year and Brown is going to be injured before week 8.

Bask in the glory that is Kwame Harris. Poor Alex...

by JHWK on Sep 5, 2009 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

4 safties, that is depth

The quality of the depth is the great unknown, but they are keeping an average number of safties

by mushin on Sep 5, 2009 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

read my explanation

I don’t care what the number is, if half of that depth is inexperienced and the other half is always injured, what kind of depth does that provide?

Bask in the glory that is Kwame Harris. Poor Alex...

by JHWK on Sep 5, 2009 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

...

What Chief didn’t miss tackles? lol

by Chiefsfan85 on Sep 5, 2009 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol

Next move: Keeping Cox and getting rid of all the other RB’s.

by Chiefsfan85 on Sep 5, 2009 6:09 PM CDT reply actions  

Pollard released

I doubt there will be any other players trying to show up a coach any time soon. There’s a new Sheriff in town and the days of players shooting their mouths off are over.

by ChiefConcern on Sep 5, 2009 6:09 PM CDT reply actions  

agreed

good player but…..

How the hell did that happen? I am Trailblazer fan to the core but I love me some OKC THunder!!! Must be the Hometown pride I feel.

I'll Say it now so you guys can know I'm a true follower: "In Pioli I Trust"
Go Chiefs!!!!!

by bouzi on Sep 5, 2009 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah because

Robots following a rookie head coach that doesn’t know what he’s doing yet is much better than passionate, hard working players.

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by ChiefDJ on Sep 5, 2009 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good point.

I don’t think it’s the blowup, per se. I think the blowup may’ve been a symptom of the negative undercurrent.

Remember the Boldin blowup. If the player’s passionate about winning football, I think he can look Haley in the eye and disagree with him, and remain in his good graces. My sense was that the blowup was more about Pollard and less about winning football.

No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.

by hmills110 on Sep 5, 2009 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Report

I seen said after he had the yelling match, he pleaded with Haley, and Haley waived him off. Sounds more like Pollard may have wanted it HIS way rather than something that could have been worked out with the coach. Sounds like Haley agreed with Pender. Hard to say. Its all speculation. It’s not the end of this team or the world.

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by ArrowheadGladiator on Sep 5, 2009 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pollard will land in Detroit

and suck there too.

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by KCSatchmo on Sep 5, 2009 6:10 PM CDT reply actions  

pollard

had potential – just needed some coaching. he had the credentials in becoming a solid ball-hawk safety for god sakes he showed it at Purdue and was a 3rd round pick! – like what the fuck man. guy can tackle, thats atleast a very good thing for special teams AT BEST. what the fuck.

by CHIEFER on Sep 5, 2009 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

ummm

I’m sorry. Did you say he could tackle?

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by ArrowheadGladiator on Sep 5, 2009 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

i'm telling you

Pioli cut him to make detroit waste their waiver pick on him….so the guy Pioli wants slips through

by KCCheeze on Sep 5, 2009 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Detroit

already used their waiver pick

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by KCSatchmo on Sep 5, 2009 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

O'Connell

This is my signature line. It is full of awesome and win.

by KCSatchmo on Sep 5, 2009 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

This isn't a fantasy league, guys

Detroit doesn’t drop to the bottom of the waiver queue after they claim someone. Waivers go by record. As such, Detroit will always have the first opportunity to claim a player.

If we put in a waiver claim on 10 guys and Detroit claims the same 10 guys, the Lions are going to get them.

And we claimed Guiterrez from the Patriots, remember? If it worked like you’re suggesting, we’d be right down near the bottom anyway.

by SlipperyPete on Sep 6, 2009 2:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

Now THAT's devious!!!

But it makes sense that maybe he’s gearing-up for a guy that’s in his sights.

No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.

by hmills110 on Sep 5, 2009 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think this is the last of the cuts

We ARE going to sign a few players and someone else will have to go. Remember this is just the beginning of things yet to come. We are not at the RIGHT 53 yet. Hold on to your hats, it’s going to be a dark and bumpy ride.

is it me? or isn't about time the Lamar Hunt trophy belonged to His team?

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by KC Fanatic on Sep 5, 2009 6:10 PM CDT reply actions  

LJ is next

He left for vegas right after the rams game…they are pissed.

by bonesjackson on Sep 5, 2009 6:11 PM CDT reply actions  

Ok UC...

"Success is never ending, failure is never final."

by GenericBrand on Sep 5, 2009 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

why is that bad ?

How the hell did that happen? I am Trailblazer fan to the core but I love me some OKC THunder!!! Must be the Hometown pride I feel.

I'll Say it now so you guys can know I'm a true follower: "In Pioli I Trust"
Go Chiefs!!!!!

by bouzi on Sep 5, 2009 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pollard

I’m glad they cut him. All you wanta be coaches don’t know jack

by Aejfan on Sep 5, 2009 6:11 PM CDT reply actions  

is it possible

maybe 24 hours from now we will all know why these cuts were made and be VERY happy about it? because thats what im hoping. Scott Pioli needs to have a few tricks up his sleeve i mean this is just way too dubious for me.

by CHIEFER on Sep 5, 2009 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah right

you obviously dont know football my friend.

by CHIEFER on Sep 5, 2009 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Both you guys please settle down.

We can disagree about Pollard without disparaging one another.

I’m on Aejfan’s side on the Pollard issue, just based on what I see on the field. Other good fans see things differently than me all the time, even though I always – I mean ALWAYS – come out on top (except for a few thousand incidents that were marred by bad weather).

No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.

by hmills110 on Sep 5, 2009 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol

I guarantee you that whoever starts in place of Pollard doesn’t have a better year than he did last year with us.

by Chiefsfan85 on Sep 5, 2009 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Your reasoning is astounding

Bask in the glory that is Kwame Harris. Poor Alex...

by JHWK on Sep 5, 2009 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Ridiculous

Gutierrez would have cleared waivers and could have been placed on the practice squad. One good preseason game by Morgan and suddenly he’s kept over a guy who has 4 years of starting experience and is only 24 years old? What about every other game Morgan’s ever played and been terrible?

Horrible move. I don’t like it whatsoever.

by Yashi on Sep 5, 2009 6:11 PM CDT reply actions  

No way Gut clears waivers

Josh McDaniels would have started fondling himself as soon as he saw that cut

by mushin on Sep 5, 2009 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed

McDaniels dont even have a starting QB for next week.

by bonesjackson on Sep 5, 2009 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Who knows

WHAT…he is doing under that Belihoodie!

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by ArrowheadGladiator on Sep 5, 2009 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Gut is no longer

eligible for the practice squad. EIther keep him, or he is a free agent

by Fourstrike89 on Sep 5, 2009 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

4 years...

starting experience? He only started the last two years. Its Morgan’s time to shine. I like this kid a lot.

by I_Bleed_Red. on Sep 7, 2009 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

I dont really care who got cut.

But I dont see how we keep a guy like Copper or the value in that. Unless he’s the first to go if we find someone else.

"Success is never ending, failure is never final."

by GenericBrand on Sep 5, 2009 6:13 PM CDT reply actions  

NOOOOOOOOOO!!!

We could have gotten something for him! I cant believe we let him go. I hope our SS now is SHIT and they wished they had him back. HORRIBLE HORRIBLE HORRIBLE MOVE!!!!!

by Wrestler189s on Sep 5, 2009 6:13 PM CDT reply actions  

hoping out SS now is shit?

sounds like your playing for the other team

by KCCheeze on Sep 5, 2009 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ok i didnt mean it, really

But pollard was one of my fav players…I just dont see why/ how they couldnt get any trade value for him…And if this was over the fight that him and clancy had then its pretty damn lame…

by Wrestler189s on Sep 5, 2009 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

i liked Pollard too

sad to see ihm go..but I have faith in Pioli…something good will come

by KCCheeze on Sep 5, 2009 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes; after that, who cares?! He's a mile away and you've got his shoes!

by SuperTurtle on Sep 5, 2009 6:13 PM CDT reply actions  

What happened to the Loli-Pop Man?

He didn’t make the team?

I don't want no Yo-Yos

by AK_47 on Sep 5, 2009 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

+1

That sir, made me laugh.
I hope that’s not worse than your scenario.

"Larry Fitzgerald, move over because there's another young gun, and his name is Dwayne Bowe from Kansas City" - 2009 Cris Carter Hall of Fame WR

In Pioli We Trust! Right?

by KC Nate on Sep 5, 2009 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow thats terrible

but it makes me lmao

Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes; after that, who cares?! He's a mile away and you've got his shoes!

by SuperTurtle on Sep 5, 2009 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

my problem is

pollard had trade value. I think a cut was the wrong way to get rid of him

by SillyHatDay on Sep 5, 2009 6:15 PM CDT reply actions  

I’m sure the tried, and no one wanted him

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by 90,32,58,31,16 on Sep 5, 2009 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

ZACH THOMAS

turns out he did have an injury settlement of some sort – so much for that fucking bullshit. ADAM SCHEFTER IS ALWAYS RIGHT.

by CHIEFER on Sep 5, 2009 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yup.

It went counter to my hopes for Thomas, but I think he was a big help in gettin’ OTAs off to a fast start.

No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.

by hmills110 on Sep 5, 2009 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

We probobly did try,,,

Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes; after that, who cares?! He's a mile away and you've got his shoes!

by SuperTurtle on Sep 5, 2009 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Which is probably the thing that confuses me the most

We tried shipping Morgan. We tried to ship Pollard. Morgan has ONE good game (don’t get me wrong, I like the kid a lot) and suddenly a 2nd year kid with one solid preseason4 game under his belt and a perennially-injured over the hill import are more valuable than a 4 year starter who’s only 24 and one of the most passionate leaders on the defense gets cut for absolutely NO RETURN?

Makes no sense with the info we’ve got.

Bask in the glory that is Kwame Harris. Poor Alex...

by JHWK on Sep 5, 2009 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm glad they found a way to keep Brown even if its a mystery and very convinient "injury"

Maybe he has a case of Boneitis.

"Success is never ending, failure is never final."

by GenericBrand on Sep 5, 2009 6:16 PM CDT reply actions  

Before I start reading all the comments

I’d like to take a moment to thank everyone involved here for being so on top of things. I’ve been reading the site for a while and just decided to sign up last night.

It’s a little hectic trying to keep up at times when a post is active but I’ll get used to it. Keep up the great work.

by bh13 on Sep 5, 2009 6:16 PM CDT reply actions  

welcome

came in ata busy time huh?

How the hell did that happen? I am Trailblazer fan to the core but I love me some OKC THunder!!! Must be the Hometown pride I feel.

I'll Say it now so you guys can know I'm a true follower: "In Pioli I Trust"
Go Chiefs!!!!!

by bouzi on Sep 5, 2009 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep

You’ll have to get used to it! :)

Welcome aboard, bh!

by Joel Thorman on Sep 5, 2009 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Welcome

Thanks for stopping in.

"Success is never ending, failure is never final."

by GenericBrand on Sep 5, 2009 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Glad to have ya

Now pick a side lol.

Touchdown
Kan..Sa...CITY
-Mitch Holthus

by 90,32,58,31,16 on Sep 5, 2009 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Welcome Aboard BH

Always great to have a new face in the crowd

"Every day is an evaluation and if you’re not out there how can we depend on you? If you’re out there and you don’t know what to do, how can we depend on you?" Accountability -- Haley-style...

by Chief_Elmo on Sep 5, 2009 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Refresh this page

For a quick sentence or two about each player…

by Joel Thorman on Sep 5, 2009 6:17 PM CDT reply actions  

Sooooooo

No word on Turtle then?

Can't wait to put my pads on a Raider, My Helmet on a Hater. I'm the Arrowhead Gladiator!!

by ArrowheadGladiator on Sep 5, 2009 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I think my biggest suprise was that London Fryar made the team

I don’t remember hearing anything about him through camp

I don't want no Yo-Yos

by AK_47 on Sep 5, 2009 6:18 PM CDT reply actions  

oh nvm, he was cut the day before

obviously thats part of me never hearing anything about him

I don't want no Yo-Yos

by AK_47 on Sep 5, 2009 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

safeties who can't tackle

don’t belong in the NFL

VICTORY IS MINE!

by bfett81 on Sep 5, 2009 6:18 PM CDT reply actions  

Welcome to AP bh13

is it me? or isn't about time the Lamar Hunt trophy belonged to His team?

I’m a Chiefs fan Dammit and I’m damn proud of it!

by KC Fanatic on Sep 5, 2009 6:18 PM CDT reply actions  

Now dont get me wrong

I don’t like this move, but theres no reason to act like the sky is falling over it, which is frankly what im seeing from a few people

Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes; after that, who cares?! He's a mile away and you've got his shoes!

by SuperTurtle on Sep 5, 2009 6:19 PM CDT reply actions  

The anger is really over the top

This is my signature line. It is full of awesome and win.

by KCSatchmo on Sep 5, 2009 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

I mean seriously

is there anyone who should be completely safe after the last 2 seasons?

This is my signature line. It is full of awesome and win.

by KCSatchmo on Sep 5, 2009 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

The sky has been falling all offseason.

To think connor barth got this much “sky is falling” response too.

"Success is never ending, failure is never final."

by GenericBrand on Sep 5, 2009 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow, I was JUST thinking the same thing

It’s really not that deep. Pollard was a for REAL yo-yo player.

"The first step to penetration... must not be lateral"
-Confucius, in contrary to Glenn Dorsey lining up in the 2-tech

by ArrowSpread on Sep 5, 2009 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

I guess he wasnt a sacred cow.

"Success is never ending, failure is never final."

by GenericBrand on Sep 5, 2009 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

The sky isnt falling...yet, but my roof collapsed.

Hopefully our replacement is better and or we get a big surprise soon..

by Wrestler189s on Sep 5, 2009 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jamall Lee needs a workout

Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.

by 808NaNz808 on Sep 5, 2009 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

All of a sudden

Taylor mays and Eric Berry dont seem like such illogical choices

Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes; after that, who cares?! He's a mile away and you've got his shoes!

by SuperTurtle on Sep 5, 2009 6:21 PM CDT reply actions  

I guess Pollard makes sense

He was made an example of. I would prefer he still be on the team but at least he’s going to Detroit where it will be hard for him to bite us in the ass

Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.

by 808NaNz808 on Sep 5, 2009 6:21 PM CDT reply actions  

If Detroit passes then the Rams wont.

"Success is never ending, failure is never final."

by GenericBrand on Sep 5, 2009 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

agreed

if SD gets their hands on him were screwed. Even better is if Detroit passes on him St Lois wont, both are in the NFC

Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.

by 808NaNz808 on Sep 5, 2009 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

I just hope!

mike brown could stay healthy, my friend is a long time bears fan and he said if mike brown is our starting strong safety he is bound to get hurt..

by albuquerquechiefsfan on Sep 5, 2009 6:22 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm thinking Donald Washington moves to SS

and stays a reserve for corner

Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.

by 808NaNz808 on Sep 5, 2009 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Get your best athletes on the field, he sez...

That thought’s been percolating in the back of my mind, too. I think it’s great to have a rookie CB with the measurables, AND ball skills AND field awareness.

No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.

by hmills110 on Sep 5, 2009 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think he splits time with morgan...

or maybe we see someone new like francisco like somone else suggested.

"Success is never ending, failure is never final."

by GenericBrand on Sep 5, 2009 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

thinking Colin Brown

was put on IR just to avoid waivers

by SillyHatDay on Sep 5, 2009 6:23 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

+1

He has a case of Boneitis

"Success is never ending, failure is never final."

by GenericBrand on Sep 5, 2009 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

I am just happy my question is answered

You CANNOT, after all “Milk” a sacred cow. Hmm. Who knew.

Can't wait to put my pads on a Raider, My Helmet on a Hater. I'm the Arrowhead Gladiator!!

by ArrowheadGladiator on Sep 5, 2009 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

I thought that was a sacred bull.

At least it didn’t work when I tried it

by mushin on Sep 5, 2009 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Glad he didn't try

and milk a BULL…he would have had a handful of…….
NO, resist.
Only “men” on the “sea”, can answer this.

Can't wait to put my pads on a Raider, My Helmet on a Hater. I'm the Arrowhead Gladiator!!

by ArrowheadGladiator on Sep 5, 2009 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pollard gone is a huge meh

Dude was a wannbe big hitter, a frequent big whiffer, and a safety who couldn’t cover. He won’t be missed.

Aint got a beach and I see no mountains, landlocked loungin' in the City of Fountains.

by HIV 2 Elway on Sep 5, 2009 6:24 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

exactly

This is my signature line. It is full of awesome and win.

by KCSatchmo on Sep 5, 2009 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, quit yer damn sugar-coating everything, Elway!!!

No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.

by hmills110 on Sep 5, 2009 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

why does david tyree excite you guys? hes a good special teamer AT BEST – i live in the metropolitan area and the giants have a bunch of average recievers and he couildnt even make that team.

by CHIEFER on Sep 5, 2009 6:26 PM CDT reply actions  

i guess your right

i just want our WR corps to get better- im also heated because of hte pollard release and all thats surrounding it. forgive me. i do like tyree-

by CHIEFER on Sep 5, 2009 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hes an upgrade on Copper.

hardly excited though.

"Success is never ending, failure is never final."

by GenericBrand on Sep 5, 2009 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

if he can hold onto the ball and run really fast in a straight line hes better than anything we got

Savage and Charles are fumblers and I don’t like risking our only nickel back, Legget, in return duties

I don't want no Yo-Yos

by AK_47 on Sep 5, 2009 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Site meter must be going nuts today

is it me? or isn't about time the Lamar Hunt trophy belonged to His team?

I’m a Chiefs fan Dammit and I’m damn proud of it!

by KC Fanatic on Sep 5, 2009 6:29 PM CDT reply actions  

Great Ida.

Same day sign and cut.

Cantaloupe? More like wontaloupe. Lazy ass melons.

by cucuybird on Sep 5, 2009 6:32 PM CDT reply actions  

Great Idea.

Same day sign and cut of McIntosh.

Cantaloupe? More like wontaloupe. Lazy ass melons.

by cucuybird on Sep 5, 2009 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bottom Line

Pioli’s job is on the line, our entertainment is on the line. He sees a lot of stuff that we don’t see. We bring in the best GM in the biz and the second he makes a controversial decision he is suddenly a hack? He wants locker room chemistry…why waste that for an average safety? This guy has been doing this for years and we’re supposed to trust him to build a winner for us.

by 1kmilesfromkc on Sep 5, 2009 6:32 PM CDT reply actions  

I dont mind that he's gone.

But theres absolutely no way this guy has zero trade value. Thats the only thing that I question.

"Success is never ending, failure is never final."

by GenericBrand on Sep 5, 2009 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree with you, but still think we can question

There is no track record here and brilliant men have done stupid things before. See Bellicheck’s Cleveland stint. I scratch my head on this one. Not because we cut him, but because we let him go for free.

I can’t believe that there wasn’t a 7th rounder out there at least, but Pioli does wheel and deal with the best so I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt

by mushin on Sep 5, 2009 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

So you think Pioli got offered a pick

and decided he’d just rather cut the guy?

We got no offers for him. Lets try to deal with teh reality that the rest of the league didn’t want him enough to give us a pick.

This is my signature line. It is full of awesome and win.

by KCSatchmo on Sep 5, 2009 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

I keep hearing that we had limited time

BUT…based on everything else our new management does, we find out, days after the fact exactly how long it has been brewing. Who knows. Pollard may have been out there a bit. BUT….with his name being obviously WELL connected with the injury of one of the leagues BEST QB’s, I find it hard to swallow that someone did NOT jump on Bernard if given the chance. Maybe the “professional” evaluaters of football talent did not see anything in him to warrant any kind of a transaction. Just my opinion. I could be wrong.

Can't wait to put my pads on a Raider, My Helmet on a Hater. I'm the Arrowhead Gladiator!!

by ArrowheadGladiator on Sep 5, 2009 7:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Look at the Moll deal to the Ravens today.

They get a serviceable RT out of the Packers for a nothing DB.

"Success is never ending, failure is never final."

by GenericBrand on Sep 5, 2009 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

There will be more cuts comming

We have to cut to add from now on, and I think we will be actively trying to add all the way til the trade dead line. I really don’t think we have the “Right 53” yet

is it me? or isn't about time the Lamar Hunt trophy belonged to His team?

I’m a Chiefs fan Dammit and I’m damn proud of it!

by KC Fanatic on Sep 5, 2009 6:36 PM CDT reply actions  

Yeah, and McBride's still on that "cut to add" bubble.

No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.

by hmills110 on Sep 5, 2009 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

i feel like

Pioli wants to sign all of them

by Stan13ag on Sep 5, 2009 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Alex Smith

Cantaloupe? More like wontaloupe. Lazy ass melons.

by cucuybird on Sep 5, 2009 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wasn't O'callaghan a RT?

Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.

by 808NaNz808 on Sep 5, 2009 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

lenoerd pope TE

i think we should take a look at him he is a good run blocker and still young..

by albuquerquechiefsfan on Sep 5, 2009 6:37 PM CDT reply actions  

bernaaaaarrrddddd..........

He was a great hitter but i think his coverage wasn’t that good. Lets not start hatin Pioli…. If Mike Brown can stay healthy then we have no problem.

by njchiefs on Sep 5, 2009 6:38 PM CDT reply actions  

Francisco will be a Chief by tomorrow

Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.

by 808NaNz808 on Sep 5, 2009 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

of course

pollard was our lead tackler…our lb’s were playing with crisco on their hands! he had tons of guys get through to the second tier where he was waiting for them

by 1kmilesfromkc on Sep 5, 2009 6:39 PM CDT reply actions  

+1 nicely done

"Success is never ending, failure is never final."

by GenericBrand on Sep 5, 2009 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

haha

Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.

by 808NaNz808 on Sep 5, 2009 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

TELL IT TO THE HAND

No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.

by hmills110 on Sep 5, 2009 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

he's like

STOP

I’M WORKING

"What we do in life, echoes in eternity!"

by Justin Bopp on Sep 5, 2009 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Move on

You ain’t got nuttin’ comin’ Bernard.

Can't wait to put my pads on a Raider, My Helmet on a Hater. I'm the Arrowhead Gladiator!!

by ArrowheadGladiator on Sep 5, 2009 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wonder how much the threat of an uncapped year affected this

Pollard would get locked up for 2 more years if next year goes uncapped and his salary would escalate. I wonder if there were no trade takers because of it.

by mushin on Sep 5, 2009 6:41 PM CDT reply actions  

I wander if were still gonna get a fictional depth chart....

It would be nice to see were people are actually gonna play. But I’m sure they’ll hide that so no one can know who to practice for.

"Whenever you go to a live sporting event, always bring a seeing eye dog and cane, just incase the refs forgot their's at home."

by Chiefsuntilidie on Sep 5, 2009 6:42 PM CDT reply actions  

I think On Monday or Tuesday

Depth comes out for the games. But with last min moves it may be longer? Anyone know for sure?

Can't wait to put my pads on a Raider, My Helmet on a Hater. I'm the Arrowhead Gladiator!!

by ArrowheadGladiator on Sep 5, 2009 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

tight end

garrett mills of vikes (nice receiver, hasnt reached his potential yet) was cut…maybe we’ll grab him

by 1kmilesfromkc on Sep 5, 2009 6:43 PM CDT reply actions  

NO YO YO PLAYERS~

Ok settle down~ its ok, POLLARD is gone~ HE WAS A YO YO PLAYER~ negative, and to be on this team you must be a TEAM PLAYER, not a ME PLAYER!

IT WAS SAID from the get go, and you could see the writing on the wall~ to be upset because of such a move, is not needed~

YO YO PLAYERS NEED NOT APPLY , no matter if your a starter or not!

GOOD MOVES by the NEW REGIME~
get use to it my fellow CHIEFS FANS!

What do LAWYERS and SPERM have in common?
One in TEN MILLION make a HUMAN!

by Kansan_Chief on Sep 5, 2009 6:43 PM CDT reply actions  

You're out of your mind

if you think Pollard wasn’t a team player.

by KCMizzou on Sep 5, 2009 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Was he

not the only one that took offense against a coach? Did he not practice hard one day and not the next ( from what I read, he didnt! ) This is a yo yo player~ one that gives it his all one day ( when he sees fit ) and doesnt the other~ Coach went on record way before his yelling at a coach, and said that exact thing

NO YO YO PLAYERS~ yes POLLARD was a yo yo player, not in skill but in giving to the TEAM what coach wanted DAY IN AND DAY OUT!

sorry, but i am NOT out of my mind, and im not going to yo yo with you on the subject!
POLLARD is and was a yo yo player in the chiefs mindset~ if he wasnt, he
would still be a chief!

What do LAWYERS and SPERM have in common?
One in TEN MILLION make a HUMAN!

by Kansan_Chief on Sep 6, 2009 12:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

Haley has said

Very clearly. They want players who are consistent day in and day out. He even said once if they are only “ok”, he wants consistency. Yo-Yo is NOT that in any way. Just my Opinion.

Can't wait to put my pads on a Raider, My Helmet on a Hater. I'm the Arrowhead Gladiator!!

by ArrowheadGladiator on Sep 5, 2009 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

If you really sit and think about it

yeah I still don’t like the move but there’s enough there for it to make sense. Especially if Fransico signs with us

Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.

by 808NaNz808 on Sep 5, 2009 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pashos signs with the Chiefs...

Is a headline I’d like to see.

"Success is never ending, failure is never final."

by GenericBrand on Sep 5, 2009 6:44 PM CDT reply actions  

WOW

Would’nt Colin Brown have been a perfect canidate for the practice squad??? Pollard – they must have been so negative shopping him that people were like let’s just wait and get him for nothing………………He’ll be picked up in 48 hrs…..

by SeeNred on Sep 5, 2009 6:44 PM CDT reply actions  

No way Brown clears waivers to get to the PS

"Success is never ending, failure is never final."

by GenericBrand on Sep 5, 2009 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pollard will be a starter for the Lions by week 1

Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.

by 808NaNz808 on Sep 5, 2009 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

QBs

They should have gotten rid of Thigpen.I can pass the ball better than he can, How do you underthrow a 4yd pass?They need to trade him for a good right tackle, if hes worth that much.

by joshtaylor1020 on Sep 5, 2009 6:48 PM CDT reply actions  

Cut Thigpen sign JT1020

Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.

by 808NaNz808 on Sep 5, 2009 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

I see your point, but I remember last spring kinda scratchin' my head at all the Pollard man-love

here and in mainstream articles. I think this might be a lot of “I want to believe” with regard to Pollard.

No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.

by hmills110 on Sep 5, 2009 7:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

I remember

earlier this off-season there was a national media article bashing our secondary & there were a lot on here who really criticized them for it & I wondered then what I was missing. I always thought that some of us held Pollard in much higher esteem than what the rest of the NFL did.

by ttownmikey on Sep 5, 2009 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

I am highly unimpressed with the moves to cut Pollard and Lelie.

Pioli/Haley better find someone worth replacing Pollard—right now, I don’t think we have that player. I feel they created another hole.

Lelie proved himself more than Copper. Cutting Pollard or Lelie over Thigpen is just assinine to me.

by SupremeChief on Sep 5, 2009 6:50 PM CDT reply actions  

No, it doesn't.

But Morgan prob’ly has better coverage skills. With the front 7 playin’ stout, I want more coverage skills and anticipation from safety, and not just a durable guy who will reduce the level of embarrassment on a bad team. I want somebody to stick a fork in the opposition on a GOOD team. A real “resistance is futile” kind of guy.

No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.

by hmills110 on Sep 5, 2009 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

what happens if morgan does pan out

i can use the same argument you used. just beacuse he has one good game doesn’t mean that he’s not going to have any more.

by Leaf on Sep 5, 2009 11:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Haha this is funny....

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=NFL&id=3949

“Patriots waived OT Ryan O’Callaghan and S/WR Ray Ventrone.

O’Callaghan didn’t have a bad camp, but second-round pick Sebastian Vollmer passed him to be New England’s No. 3 offensive tackle. O’Callaghan could probably start for the Chiefs right away. Ventrone was a special teamer."

"Success is never ending, failure is never final."

by GenericBrand on Sep 5, 2009 6:51 PM CDT reply actions  

totally

its funny that Rhodes and Thomas were bigger cuts to NFLN than a safety in his prime with nice stats….

I know, he took bad angles, ok, ill move on, but still, hes a nice waiver pick up

by SDChief on Sep 5, 2009 6:52 PM CDT reply actions  

Bernards Missed Tackles in Seattle Game

Warpaint Illustrated has a nice article posted about why Pollard got demoted to second string do to missed tackles (5) in the Seahawks game.

by Novyarbat on Sep 5, 2009 6:52 PM CDT reply actions  

Bernard missed tackles in every game

He either laid a dude out or bounced off and asked for an autograph as they ran past

by mushin on Sep 5, 2009 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Should we sign Jeff Garcia?

Cantaloupe? More like wontaloupe. Lazy ass melons.

by cucuybird on Sep 5, 2009 6:53 PM CDT reply actions  

Fair enough

Cantaloupe? More like wontaloupe. Lazy ass melons.

by cucuybird on Sep 5, 2009 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, because I guess you would rather see Thigpen or Guit throw incompletion or picks as a third QB…

by Tomahawk_Chop on Sep 5, 2009 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

For a week to get the play book...no never mind. We know that

Al: GO DEEP damnit

Cable: Uh Al, we’re on defense

Al: YOU’RE FIRED!!!! Where’s my damn projector?

by mushin on Sep 5, 2009 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

That was just a wet Willy

NO!

Can't wait to put my pads on a Raider, My Helmet on a Hater. I'm the Arrowhead Gladiator!!

by ArrowheadGladiator on Sep 5, 2009 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

might as well

unless they see a future for thig development-wise, he’s pretty much played himself outta trade value this preseason.

by ExtraMetal on Sep 5, 2009 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Today's cuts - a summary
  1. CB Jackie Bates – NO SURPRISE
  2. TE Tom Crabree – NO SURPRISE
  3. DE Dion Gales – NO SURPRISE
  4. DE Bobby Greenwood – NO SURPRISE
  5. G Darryl Harris – NO SURPRISE
  6. WR Taurus Johnson – NO SURPRISE – though I was rootin’ for ’im. Still might make PS.
  7. WR Ashley Lelie – a surprise. Probably mentality and learning curve make him a liability?
  8. DT Derek Lokey – NO SURPRISE
  9. S Bernard Pollard – NO SURPRISE – although I hoped there’d be some trade value.
  10. S Ricky Price – NO SURPRISE
  11. LB Zach Thomas – NO SURPRISE – but I was holding out hope that they were just trying to keep him healthy.
  12. RB Javarris Williams – NO SURPRISE – wasn’t gettin’ touches.
  13. WR Rodney Wright – NO SURPRISE

Placed on Injured Reserve

  1. G Colin Brown – As others have said, this is probably to hide a not-yet-ready-for-primetime player of the future. They prob’ly would’ve kept him if they weren’t so desperate to get as many looks at as many linemen as possible.

No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.

by hmills110 on Sep 5, 2009 6:58 PM CDT reply actions  

All in all, some of the most heated arguing I've done, lately,

has borne fruit. Gales gone. Pollard gone. McBride and Studebaker making it (so far). Lelie was about the only surprise. If they think he’s not good enough, MAYbe these professional talent evaluators are saying they have something significantly better, which is cool with me.

No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.

by hmills110 on Sep 5, 2009 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

+1

No reported injury on Brown and all of the sudden he’s on IR not even PuP. Thats fishy.

"Success is never ending, failure is never final."

by GenericBrand on Sep 5, 2009 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Neither one makes a difference

Pollard has been overrated since he was drafted. Lelie just didn’t get it I guess I wanted him so suceed but didn’t happen. Really this makes us a better TEAM.

As in a WHOLE UNIT

by chefclaytor on Sep 5, 2009 7:03 PM CDT reply actions  

in reality

with the 53 we have as of this minute…we are fighting for 3rd in the AFC West…6 wins would be a stretch…

Now i know there will be some moves before opening dat and this roster will look much different…but as of now…our team is horrible…sadly

by KCCheeze on Sep 5, 2009 7:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

What did you expect? Going from 2-14 to the Superbowl in a year?

That’s totally unrealistic. Pioli isn’t going to mortgage the future. He is building a 53 man team that is built to win in January. You can’t get that done in one season. And there is no doubt this team is better than last year’s.

Toby is in HR, which technically means he works for corporate, so he's really not a part of our family. Also, he's divorced, so he's really not a part of his family.

by Rev. Slappy on Sep 5, 2009 7:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm shocked!

I thought we were Super Bowl contenders for the last 5 years.

Sackoff (McIntosh,Goff) like Brangelina.

by DaChefs on Sep 5, 2009 7:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rosenhaus still saying Thomas wants to play even after the release.

But he probably has to to even apply for an injury grievance.

"Success is never ending, failure is never final."

by GenericBrand on Sep 5, 2009 7:05 PM CDT reply actions  

at least were not a packers fan

who cut their round 2 pick from last year and placed harrell (1st round) on the IR in three out of three seasons

by KC Masterpiece on Sep 5, 2009 7:09 PM CDT reply actions  

Mike Brown

will not play a full season. Our house is a Chiefs/Bears house and I have been watching him for years. He is an exciting player for sure. He will miss games. This is not an endorsement for Pollard.

by Ripley on Sep 5, 2009 7:29 PM CDT reply actions  

Yup

If they think Morgan can play like he did in the preseason every game that Brown misses then they are in for a surprise….

by Wrestler189s on Sep 5, 2009 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Whoa

“This is like those people at the town hall mettings argueing on behalf of insurance companies,”

I was agreeing with you until you started the crap about politics.

by Aejfan on Sep 5, 2009 7:40 PM CDT reply actions  

in other news

the Raiders cut their only good QB.

by ExtraMetal on Sep 5, 2009 7:48 PM CDT reply actions  

Is this a possibility with the waivers....

that IF he makes it past detroit and st louis we can resign him….like what haley did to bowe, just EXTREME?

by xfatdannx on Sep 5, 2009 8:31 PM CDT reply actions  

That be an even more colossal waste

of time and effort than cutting him in the first place.

Bask in the glory that is Kwame Harris. Poor Alex...

by JHWK on Sep 5, 2009 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Also....

At least this makes the JA trade better value to us in the end…keeping morgan, a pick from that trade.

by xfatdannx on Sep 5, 2009 8:34 PM CDT reply actions  

You know...

Lately, the way we have performed in preseason, I really don’t see the chiefs doing well, not even average. Honestly things have worried me, including not scoring any TDs against 1st team defenses. I wouldn’t be suprised to see us picking top 5 again.

Hey good thing there is Mizzou football.

"Larry Fitzgerald, move over because there's another young gun, and his name is Dwayne Bowe from Kansas City" - 2009 Cris Carter Hall of Fame WR

In Pioli We Trust! Right?

by KC Nate on Sep 5, 2009 9:06 PM CDT reply actions  

REALLY F'ING PISSED AT THIS!

Did anyone watch the games last year????

Pollard was the most exciting player we had on defense!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He’s one of the hardest hitters I’ve seen since Steve Atwater!!!!!!!!!!!!

AND WE CUT HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?????

This makes no sense! Complete stupidity!

WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!??????????

by mr_dizzy_dean on Sep 5, 2009 9:08 PM CDT reply actions  

Missed the most tackles

What part of “I’m not a yo-yo coach and I don’t want yo-yo players” did you miss?

Negative Ghost Rider the pattern is full...

by cpa913 on Sep 6, 2009 12:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

Bad Move

Pollard isn’t a cocky player he’s an intense guy that isn’t afraid of anyone including the head coach, Haley is just to head strong and couldn’t handle him. It’s funny reading everyones comments about Pollard not being able to tackle, he was hands down the best tackler on the team, if you really want to see someone who can’t tackle watch film of how many tackles Page missed over the last 2 seasons. The sad part is the Chiefs not only get nothing in return for Pollard but they also lose one of the only players who actually played with some passion and heart over the last few shitty seasons. Think about it, how many guys have the Chiefs had on defense in the last 2 or 3 years that flew around hitting people like Pollard? I can only think of one Jared Allen, and sure he was out of position alot but he made plays and gave the fans something to cheer about. If Derrick Johnson played with the passion Pollard did he’d be playing in Pro Bowls. Well at least they still have Flowers and Carr in the secondary…………

by Rollo80 on Sep 5, 2009 9:46 PM CDT reply actions  

Come on everyone, Pollard was the best of the worst (as Chef Ramsey would say). Obviously they see something in morgan that pollard didn’t have. To be honest pollard was basically playing a deep linebacker. He hits hard but how many recievers got open behind him, it seemd he forgot he was the LAST LINE OF DEFENSE. Don’t get me wrong I’m a bit shocked, but I prepared myself for this as soon as I heard he was on the trading block. I just went through the list of most notable cuts and there are a couple safeties we could look at, as for keeping four qb’s, well I think we’re gunna try to showcase one of them for a pick. In my opinion about Lelie though, that is kind of dissapointing. I thought we needed help at reciever since Darling went down on the IR. Lelie caught basically everything thrown his way over the preseason so what gives!? he’s fast and he caught the football!! WHAT DO YOU WANT TODD HALEY!!!?? WHAT THE HECK DO YOU WANT!!!???

by seipher77 on Sep 5, 2009 10:28 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm not pissed that we kept Morgan

I’m pissed that we A) gave Pollard up for nothing, and B) kept Mike “I need an exo-skeleton” Brown instead of Pollard.

Bask in the glory that is Kwame Harris. Poor Alex...

by JHWK on Sep 5, 2009 11:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

HAHAHA

Some of you are still so attached to “hype” rather than “performance”.
Why are you mad that Pollard is gone? Because he hit someone really hard once and the CBS announcers told you that he was the “Bonecrusher” (oooooooohh)??? And because Herm told you he was good for 2 years? (Just like the rest of the team was gonna be good (“Get over it”))……. Pollard gave up WAY more big plays than he stopped. It is clear that this organization doesn’t give a **** about hype. I absolutely love it. Carl Peterson would have kept Pollard based on the presumption that he was “The Bonecrusher” and a shut down safety that everyone said “He could have been”….Just like Peterson signed Ty Law based on what he did 8 years earlier in his career…. clearly when he was past his prime. Listen. Pollard was a safety on a team that ACCIDENTALLY made the playoffs once, and went 6-26 for 2 seasons after. I don’t get why everyone is so attached to BAD players. I don’t care if he hits hard. He never had a concept of coverage, ALWAYS got made a fool of on play action, and frankly did nothing for a defense that finished in the basement of the league. FORGET ABOUT HIM. CLEARLY NOBODY IN THE NFL CARES ABOUT HIM…. or he would have had trade value.

by LClarkson on Sep 5, 2009 11:18 PM CDT reply actions  

almost 100 tackles is bad play,

Your so stupid, He was 3rd in the league in tacklesfor safeties last year. This just goes to show Todd Haley isnt a good coach. He let his personal feeling or Clancies get in the way of The Right 53. You cant be honestly happy that our starting safeties are going to be Page who is remarkably worse then Pollard, and Mike brown who gets injured every year. I dont care how much you dont like a guy, You dont just release him. I know one thing Im not buying any tickets to the Chiefs 3-13 season……By the way hell be on another team in a few days, probably the lions. Because they are 1st in the waiver order.

by dougritchey on Sep 5, 2009 11:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

how do you know he's the right 53?

are you the coach? just because you like the guy doesn’t mean he was the right fit for the team.

by Leaf on Sep 5, 2009 11:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

its so funny because you guys have been sucking this regimes dick for 6 mths. I hoe you feel like you just got raped in an ally behing an IHOP

by dougritchey on Sep 5, 2009 11:29 PM CDT reply actions  

Dude that is way out of bounds

Hey they are not going to sit back, and be content with bs like the previous regime. There will be moves to make this team better.

Now hopefully this team is fun to watch again! Thanks Scott, Clark!!

by Eric Allen on Sep 5, 2009 11:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why are you jocking their nuts like this dude. What makes you7 think their proven. Pioli is from the belcheck tree and none of them were succesful. This is a dumb move to cut a guy who is in the top 10 safties in the league, Atleast keep him til the end of the year when his contract exspires then dont resign him if you dont want him. This was all because of the argue,ment. Haley put his emotions and pride in front of putting toegteher a talented football team. You keep on riding their nuts dude, Im not buying any tickets this year though. They got 1700 bucks out of me last year, They wont get a dime this year. Thanks cott oh thanks clark, your clueless dude. Hey maybe they will get on here and read your qoute man. This was a bad move for the Chiefs, exspecially when theier still trying to sell out the stadium.

by dougritchey on Sep 5, 2009 11:55 PM CDT reply actions  

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