Kansas City Chiefs Release Bernard Pollard, 12 Others
by Joel Thorman on Sep 5, 2009 5:56 PM CDT
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PrintThe Kansas City Chiefs have just announced the final round of cuts to get down to the league mandated 53 man roster.
Biggest shocker? Bernard Pollard. Wow.
| Offense | Defense |
| TE Tom Crabtree | CB Jackie Bates |
| G Darryl Harris | DE Dion Gales |
| WR Taurus Johnson | DE Bobby Greenwood |
| WR Ashley Lelie | DT Derek Lokey |
| RB Javarris Williams | S Bernard Pollard |
| WR Rodney Wright | LB Zach Thomas |
| G Colin Brown (IR) | S Ricky Price |
After the jump, we take a look at the circumstances surrounding each of the cuts.
The following were released:
S Bernard Pollard Wow. There were trade rumors recently and apparently they had some legs. This is far and away the most shocking move by the Chiefs. Frankly, I don't understand this move. This leaves DaJuan Morgan, who was injured for much of last season as a rookie, and Mike Brown, who has been injured much of the last five years, as your strong safeties.
CB Jackie Bates This shouldn't be much of a surprise. The Chiefs decided to keep five cornerbacks and it was down to Bates or Ricardo Colclough. Colclough has been a return man in the past and provides a little more experience. TE Tom Crabree It's not surprising, either. This leaves three tight ends on the Chiefs roster (Sean Ryan, Brad Cottam and Jake O'Connell). Crabtree had a couple of nice plays in last week's game against the Rams but ultimately it came down to a numbers game. Remember, the Chiefs gave up a draft pick in a trade to get O'Connell. DE Dion Gales A little surprised here. Gales didn't necessarily separate himself but the Chiefs will be a little low on defensive ends. DE Bobby Greenwood See above. I thought about the best chance he had to make the team was due to the low number of offensive linemen. Harris' name was rarely mentioned and ultimately proved to be expendable. WR Taurus Johnson Chiefs had a lot of wide receivers and, for a position where they needed playmakers, he apparently couldn't cut it. It doesn't help that he didn't return kicks and/or punts as well. WR Ashley Lelie A little surprising considering he showed a little promise and is one of the few Chiefs receivers with some experience. He's a fast receiver and the Chiefs don't really have that right now. DT Derek Lokey He was playing nose tackle behind Tank Tyler and Ron Edwards. It was going to be tough to beat out one of those guys. Again, a numbers game. He couldn't beat out Jon McGraw and starter Jarrad Page. LB Zach Thomas Rumored to be injured and looking at retirement. Apparently he was healthy enough for the Chiefs to part ways with him without an injury settlement. RB Javarris Williams The Chiefs 7th round draft pick and the only draftee released. He's certainly eligible for the practice squad. WR Rodney Wright 29 year old player who hasn't shown much thus far. Placed on Injured Reserve When did he have an injury? Behind Pollard, this is the second most surprising move. There were no indications he was injured. He was the team's fifth round draft pick.
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Pollard
Must have been a negative player all summer.
I can’t believe he had no trade value.
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I just Hope
like hell he doesnt end up in the AFC West! He’ll be playing for blood.
COME ON!
I agree about the 4 QBs but that won’t last beyond a few weeks. Which Berand Pollard was you watchng for the last 2 years? The one that was out of position 90% of the time or the one that could not tackle 90% of the time.
The tackles he made were a product of bad DL and LB play. It hurts to be exposed to the truth but this move will have no impact on the Chiefs…unless Bernard changes the way he plays.
by NFL season ticket holder on Sep 5, 2009 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions
No
Nice job completely making up those numbers. It’s not Pollard’s fault the DL and LB play were terrible last season. This is a horrible mistake by the Chiefs. Even if they benched him, or just used him on special teams.
So Drew...
doesnt get paid? LMAO
"But what do I know, I'm AP's new assclown and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
Interesting.
I have a feeling cutting Pollard is a big mistake. I do believe another team is going to jump on him fast and he will have a BIG year….
Maybe he's just sorta dinged up and they know he ain't startin' and they want another crack at developing him.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
Bullshit.
You can’t tell me we couldn’t get a single draft pick for Pollard. What a fucking waste.
And…do we have any freaking O Linemen left now?
I'm telling you EXACTLY that.
There were no takers, apparently.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
Exactly
Why not cut a guy like Copper that no one is going to pick up anyway and try to work Pollard for a trade?
http://ajax-dj.mybrute.com
5th round rumors for thuggy
and nothing for BP? I doubt that…this seems like a HUGE mistake if you ask me.
DT Reigns you said it.....that's horseshit!!
How in the hell are they gonna tell us they couldn’t get a single thing for him anywhere? I am in disbelief here. How could this happen?? I don’t care he’s gone I just can’t believe we just cut him…they gotta have someone in mind … please God tell me they do!
Many changes
between now and midweek. Hoping that O-Line is on it’s way. Damn, I sure liked “Bonecrusher” Though.
Can't wait to put my pads on a Raider, My Helmet on a Hater. I'm the Arrowhead Gladiator!!
by ArrowheadGladiator on Sep 5, 2009 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions
+1000
Can’t fn believe it. Another reason to hate some personnel in KC.
I don’t know if I’ll get over this like TG. BP had lot of value, he was the leader of one of the best secondaries in the league.
"Larry Fitzgerald, move over because there's another young gun, and his name is Dwayne Bowe from Kansas City" - 2009 Cris Carter Hall of Fame WR
In Pioli We Trust! Right?
Right move
Which Berand Pollard was you watchng for the last 2 years? The one that was out of position 90% of the time or the one that could not tackle 90% of the time.
The tackles he made were a product of bad DL and LB play. It hurts to be exposed to the truth but this move will have no impact on the Chiefs…unless Bernard changes the way he plays.
by NFL season ticket holder on Sep 5, 2009 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, you should really
quit making shit up. There was absolutely no reason, from my viewpoint, to keep both Morgan and Brown over Pollard.
Smart move to put brown on the IR
he would of never made it past waivers
HE IS NOT HURT
"Whenever you go to a live sporting event, always bring a seeing eye dog and cane, just incase the refs forgot their's at home."
how the hell can you keep a guy like terrence copper
and just keep 5 safeties – with pollard. the hell is the matter with pioli.
Maybe your blocking is going to be more important than your receiving?
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
Just remember, Pioli did this before with Lawyer Milloy in NE
The fans there were outraged too. It worked out. I’m not happy, but I’ll wait and see
Sorry for jumping the gun Joel
Just wanted Ap to have the news ASAP
is it me? or isn't about time the Lamar Hunt trophy belonged to His team?
I’m a Chiefs fan Dammit and I’m damn proud of it!
I for one am starting to wonder about these guys.
Copper stays and Pollard’s gone? WTF is that???
Lelie too?
Pioli is a dumbass…Sorry.
Did you see all of Training Camp? Did you see how Pollard reacted in Team meetings?
The players will do it the Haley / Pioli way. Pollard apparently wasn’t on the same page as the coach and GM.
Argument
He also was the mouthiest guy in camp… He also got in the DC face… You think that was going to fly with Haley?
Drops
Dont forget that if we pick someone up through waivers we have to drop someone right away… Cooper is not going to be on the roster long…
Pioli is the new King
Which Berand Pollard was you watchng for the last 2 years? The one that was out of position 90% of the time or the one that could not tackle 90% of the time.
The tackles he made were a product of bad DL and LB play. It hurts to be exposed to the truth but this move will have no impact on the Chiefs…unless Bernard changes the way he plays.
by NFL season ticket holder on Sep 5, 2009 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions
which NFLsth is this?
the one who makes up stuff 90% of the time, or the one who didn’t tell the truth 90% of the time?
Admiti it: you hate Pollard for other reasons than performance, since you cannot quote facts.
Cassel vs. Thigpen in Camp should improve the play of both.
Linebackers: looking better
D-lineL slight improvement
O-line: WTF?!?
by Bleedingredandgold on Sep 6, 2009 3:10 AM CDT up reply actions
I agree...
this guys copy and paste is mindless. But, I have to agree that Pollard has never been a good player for us. He was a poor man’s Roy Williams and that is saying a lot considering Roy sucks. It was the right move and 31 other teams agree with my opinion considering he hasn’t been picked up.
You dont cut Pollard.
You trade him at worst case scenario. You even cut someone else to hold on to him to buy yourself time to trade him
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
our deep threat""
lelie was supposed to be – bowe, bradley, engram, copper, lawrence…thats who were flying with? we;ve GOT to be bringing some other people in what the hell.
Pollard was cut
As revenge for Tom Brady
by bonesjackson on Sep 5, 2009 6:00 PM CDT reply actions 4 recs
Tomorrows headlines
Pioli resigns as Chiefs General Manager, Haley gone too.
"Larry Fitzgerald, move over because there's another young gun, and his name is Dwayne Bowe from Kansas City" - 2009 Cris Carter Hall of Fame WR
In Pioli We Trust! Right?
ball skills
dajuan morgan made 1 interception dude. and pollard had a handful, he proved it last year he can be a ball hawk.
Why are you baffled
Which Berand Pollard was you watchng for the last 2 years? The one that was out of position 90% of the time or the one that could not tackle 90% of the time.
The tackles he made were a product of bad DL and LB play. It hurts to be exposed to the truth but this move will have no impact on the Chiefs…unless Bernard changes the way he plays.
by NFL season ticket holder on Sep 5, 2009 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Did you
seriously just copy/paste that same comment several times throughout this post? WE GOT IT!
he's just a hater
Cassel vs. Thigpen in Camp should improve the play of both.
Linebackers: looking better
D-lineL slight improvement
O-line: WTF?!?
by Bleedingredandgold on Sep 6, 2009 3:13 AM CDT up reply actions
seriously
this is like the 4th time I have read this same dang comment, we get it already! Hermstheman is that you?
"You can't polish a turd", old guy, Christine
"Let your anger be, like a monkey in a pinata, hiding amongst the candy, hoping the kids don't break through with their sticks!" Master Payne, King Pow
I think Pioli just lost some credibility.
If we release Copper, even if we want him, he’ll still be sitting there tomorrow. Pollard will be gone before dinner.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
they probably already signed him
"Whenever you go to a live sporting event, always bring a seeing eye dog and cane, just incase the refs forgot their's at home."
by Chiefsuntilidie on Sep 5, 2009 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions
maybe it was a
hey detroit…we’ll release pollard…and you let this guy through the waiver wire without claiming him
shocked
i really think Lelie got no chance at all to showcase himself and when he was in he di pretty good but pollard was the shocker….. no trade at all …..
How the hell did that happen? I am Trailblazer fan to the core but I love me some OKC THunder!!! Must be the Hometown pride I feel.
I'll Say it now so you guys can know I'm a true follower: "In Pioli I Trust"
Go Chiefs!!!!!
Don't panic
Pollard was
weak in coverage
constantly out of position
didn’t wrap up
They clearly wanted to send a message, the whole “no sacred cows” thing. I really don’t think we’ll miss him, but I know I’m in the minority. I’m actually more bummed about Lelie.
The Good: Hiring Pioli and Haley, Drafting Tyson Jackson
The Bad: The Offensive Line Play
The Ugly: Thigpen Trying to Play QB
by KCporkchop on Sep 5, 2009 6:00 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
^This
Holy Shit!!!...Peterson resigned...Am I dead?...Is This Heaven?
by RoyalsFanStuckInCardsLand on Sep 5, 2009 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions
But he was worth at least a 7th rounder
I can’t believe we couldn’t get even a 7th for him. Maybe there was more to him mouthing off and the argument with Pendy than we realize.
by DThomasReigns on Sep 5, 2009 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions
i keep hearing this but if that were true than i think he would have been traded.
we have no idea what goes on behind the seens
hmmm.
He was weak in coverage but a big hitter. He missed a few tackles but what chief didn’t? Wasn’t too bad in position.
agreed
Lelie is who we should be bummed about ….. Copper better become Fitz by week 10
How the hell did that happen? I am Trailblazer fan to the core but I love me some OKC THunder!!! Must be the Hometown pride I feel.
I'll Say it now so you guys can know I'm a true follower: "In Pioli I Trust"
Go Chiefs!!!!!
hilarious ….. was that a joke….. oh it wasn’t
thats our WR corps ….. ok sorry bud
How the hell did that happen? I am Trailblazer fan to the core but I love me some OKC THunder!!! Must be the Hometown pride I feel.
I'll Say it now so you guys can know I'm a true follower: "In Pioli I Trust"
Go Chiefs!!!!!
I'll buy that.
I am more bummed about Lelie too.
by Chiefsfan1970 on Sep 5, 2009 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions
you arent convincing me
that releasing pollard was the best thing for this team. no way- idc how bad in coverage he was this pre-season he was a starter all year last year and had over 100 tackles. thats saying something.
he shouldn't have had that many tackles
the front 7 should have been taking care of them. and they didn’t. The only thing I can think of is Pollard wasn’t getting with the program.
Bummed about Lelie?
A guy who hasn’t been able to stick with a team for years?
B.S.
Just because you’re fast doesn’t make you good and he’s not that good.
http://ajax-dj.mybrute.com
Not that good???
Better than Terrence fucking Copper!!!!
by Chiefsfan1970 on Sep 5, 2009 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions
PLUSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS ONEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
"Whenever you go to a live sporting event, always bring a seeing eye dog and cane, just incase the refs forgot their's at home."
by Chiefsuntilidie on Sep 5, 2009 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions
In KC's estimation, yes, Copper's better than Lelie.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
Did he even catch a pass in the preseason?
I don’t remember ever actually seeing Copper on the field and I only missed about a half’s worth of the preseason…
Bask in the glory that is Kwame Harris. Poor Alex...
That's a bullshit excuse
At minimum we should have traded him. Just giving him up for ABSOLUTELY NOTHING is retarded.
Bask in the glory that is Kwame Harris. Poor Alex...
They shopped him. Nobody took 'em up on it.
This says more about the safeties they kept and urgent needs, elsewhere.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
Retarded was keeping him
Which Berand Pollard was you watchng for the last 2 years? The one that was out of position 90% of the time or the one that could not tackle 90% of the time.
The tackles he made were a product of bad DL and LB play. It hurts to be exposed to the truth but this move will have no impact on the Chiefs…unless Bernard changes the way he plays.
by NFL season ticket holder on Sep 5, 2009 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions
NFL season ticket holder
which NFL season ticket holder hae you been wathing the last two days, the one who made shit up 90% of the time, or the one who pasted the same shit 90% of the time?
Grow a pair, and have something to day besides repeating the same shit.
Cassel vs. Thigpen in Camp should improve the play of both.
Linebackers: looking better
D-lineL slight improvement
O-line: WTF?!?
by Bleedingredandgold on Sep 6, 2009 3:21 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Finally somebody that has been paying attention.
Everybody is blinded by those couple punt blocks his first year.
That's a cop out to try and make those of us arguing in his favor
seem like idiots.
We’ve got every right to pissed that we literally just gave away a 4 year starter in exchange for a 2nd year player that had ONE good game against the 3rd stringers of the only team to be worse than us last year not named Detriot and a guy that has had more injuries the last few years than Brodie.
Yeah, sounds like I’m just blinded by homerism!
Bask in the glory that is Kwame Harris. Poor Alex...
It's not just homerism
The thing I think I see everyone missing here is something that Looney said early on today. It’s about who fits the 3-4 far more than it is the names. This is why a lot of the D line was cut and Pollard as well. Period.
There has been a bit of discussion on here about whether or not our backfield would be able to adjust to a 3-4 instead of the Tampon 2. This is a major answer to those debates we have had. Obviously most of the guys were able to make the transition. Pollard could not. They tried to move him and could not. So now he is gone. Doesn’t mean anyone here is a blind homer…just means Pollard didn’t fit the scheme. And yes, he will likely be playing elsewhere.
Chiefs go 9-7. LJ makes 1400 yards. DBowe makes 1200 yards. Defense #18.
if he will be plaing elsewhere,,,
he has /some/ trade value. If that value wasn’t extracted, it’s a ding on Pioli, unless SP’s gonna grab critical talent, and fast, and needed the space.
Cassel vs. Thigpen in Camp should improve the play of both.
Linebackers: looking better
D-lineL slight improvement
O-line: WTF?!?
by Bleedingredandgold on Sep 6, 2009 3:25 AM CDT up reply actions
weak in coverage; constantly out of position; didn’t wrap up
Agreed. He could lay some monster hits, but he is kind of a one-trick-pony.
Rectal Froth
Very disapointed
in losing Pollard and Lelie. Should have kept Lelie over Copper. They better be making this right soon with some good signings
because they are trying to off load croyle, thigy, to anyone they can for dp's
"Whenever you go to a live sporting event, always bring a seeing eye dog and cane, just incase the refs forgot their's at home."
by Chiefsuntilidie on Sep 5, 2009 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions
maybe they haven;t decided
who to cut yet? and maybe we’ll sign 3 solid vets(including 1 QB) and cut croyle, thigpen and copper
If history has taught us anything
Pollard will sign with a team and have a ring at the end of the season.
Waived and doubt he'll clear waivers.
Hello Detroit.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
Pollard will be a Detroit Lion within a couple hrs.
No way Gunther passes up on him.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
i dont get it
why not just keep 5 safeties- cut one mid season, atleast entertain trade talks. a 7th atleast! what the hell.
Urgent needs elsewhere. Have no use for a veteran that isn't AHEAD of the learning curve.
Just throwing out ideas.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
I don't know about you guys
But after this… I Need A Beer!
is it me? or isn't about time the Lamar Hunt trophy belonged to His team?
I’m a Chiefs fan Dammit and I’m damn proud of it!
All I have is rum
Can't wait to put my pads on a Raider, My Helmet on a Hater. I'm the Arrowhead Gladiator!!
by ArrowheadGladiator on Sep 5, 2009 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Rum beer Whiskey It will all work
is it me? or isn't about time the Lamar Hunt trophy belonged to His team?
I’m a Chiefs fan Dammit and I’m damn proud of it!
1 bourban 1 scotch 1 beer please
Len Dawson:
"Lamar Hunt had a dream and, the thing is, we had dreams, too. Just imagine the number of people that he has touched because he said, 'I'm going after this dream."'
by smokin iowa chief on Sep 5, 2009 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Speaking of which
I am trying, for my first time as I type this, some stuff called “Wild Turkey American Honey”.
The bottle says: “Exceptionally Smooth Liqueur Blended With Pure Honey And Bourbon Whiskey”. 71 Proof
Good shizzle. I am mixing it with 7 Up (cuz it’s all I have), but I bet it would be awesome with Cream Soda.
The Donger recommends (they should put THAT on the bottle).
Rectal Froth
It says last years linebackers all sucked !
"But what do I know, I'm AP's new assclown and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
by Lanier63 on Sep 5, 2009 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Top miss tackler as well
Which Berand Pollard was you watchng for the last 2 years? The one that was out of position 90% of the time or the one that could not tackle 90% of the time.
The tackles he made were a product of bad DL and LB play. It hurts to be exposed to the truth but this move will have no impact on the Chiefs…unless Bernard changes the way he plays.
by NFL season ticket holder on Sep 5, 2009 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions
a small part of the reason pollard was cut:
http://www.nfl.com/videos/kansas-city-chiefs/09000d5d8123fcaf/Seahawks-14-Chiefs-10
go to 2:49 and 3:58 to see a small sample for why Pollard was cut
I don't want no Yo-Yos
by AK_47 on Sep 5, 2009 6:03 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Big damn deal
He also was one of our top tacklers and in on a lot of turnovers and played harder than about anyone else on the field.
If thats not a Pioli guy, I don’t know what is. Maybe our great coach should TEACH him how to tackle better.
http://ajax-dj.mybrute.com
by ChiefDJ on Sep 5, 2009 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
because I'm sure they didn't TRY
same with Edwards and his staff. Uncoachable? Pollard is a hot head who tries to go for the big hit too often and often comes up short. He said himself during the beginning of this off season that him and Haley had had disagreements about how aggressive he wanted him to play. This really isn’t and should not be a big suprise
I don't want no Yo-Yos
The surprise, and this should give Pollard man-love victims pause, ...
… is that, when shopped, Pollard elicited zero trade interest in 31 other teams.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
unable to adjust to the 3-4
I think this is an example of a D-back who could play tampa 2 but did not adjust to a 3-4 scheme. Not to mention mouthy as hell.
Chiefs go 9-7. LJ makes 1400 yards. DBowe makes 1200 yards. Defense #18.
Pollard
was miscast in the tampa 2. Pollard is a traditional hard-hitting, run supporting Strong Safety. BUT you are right partially because he was unable to adjust to the 3-4.
SS’s in the 3-4 are used somewhat like the Cover 2. Not quite the same, but somewhat identical. Because there are 4 LB’s in the 3-4, theres less need for support by a SSafety, so the SSafety tends to be in coverage more often. This is why I think Brown and Morgan fit the position better. Morgan is also a hard hitter but he showed hes decent in coverage. Sure, theres the arguement that he played good in only one game, but I’m sure hes been making plays when he has been practicing.
Morgan was on the verge of being cut because he was injured through so much of training camp. But he got healthy, got on the field and made an impact. He got into a game and made an impact. Hes only a 2nd year player, so I think he deserves to be looked at. Brown is a balanced guy (hitter, coverage) and Morgan will benefit him more than Pollard.
BUT…I dont think you cut Pollard in the process. Not quite yet. But, in all fairness, hes better fit for a traditional 4-3 defense as a SS. Something that would fit in Gunthers system (the Cover 2 that Gunther ran under Herm is NOT his system)
Pollard to the Lions. Out of the division, out of the conference. No problem to us.
Beautiful
Classic thanks for sharing… Every Pollard fan needs to watch this….LOL
by NFL season ticket holder on Sep 5, 2009 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Prediction;
Aaron Francisco will take Pollards spot!
Could be.
Theyre the same type of player. More of a guy up on the line to stop the run and not a very good coverage guy. Difference is Francisco is a ST beast.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
I think Antigo Montoya will fill the spot
Some 6 fingered man killed his father. He got vengenace and is now looking for work. Be a good signing for us
Inigo...
Inigo Montoya
"The first step to penetration... must not be lateral"
-Confucius, in contrary to Glenn Dorsey lining up in the 2-tech
Prepare to
Die
Can't wait to put my pads on a Raider, My Helmet on a Hater. I'm the Arrowhead Gladiator!!
by ArrowheadGladiator on Sep 5, 2009 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions
+1
He had to be worth something. I would guess minimum a 5th.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
I have never cussed on this site
but this is fucking bullshit. You can’t convince me that cutting Pollard makes ANY sense. Fuck you Pioli and Haley. You just dropped about 20 points for me. Pollard is AT LEAST a special teams stud. But hey, go out and pick up Tyree instead. Fucking ignorant. I’ve been on the Haley and Pioli bandwagon from day one, but fuck these guys. I’m out. You get rid of a fan favorite in Tony, but you get some worth out of him, that’s one thing. CUT a guy who makes nothing, go to hell.
by KCMizzou on Sep 5, 2009 6:05 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Pollard is not the type of guy that will take a demotion and play special teams
I don't want no Yo-Yos
How the hell would you know that?
He played Special Teams his first year here despite being a 2nd round pick. That was just a couple years ago.
http://ajax-dj.mybrute.com
Cocky guys, which pollard is
tend not to like being demoted to let an old man or a young kid take his spot. Locker room cancer? He sure does like to talk…and dance
I don't want no Yo-Yos
Good points.
And the next team that hires him, he’ll be ALL eager to play STs for ‘em, to help secure employment, even if it would’ve been tough to get that to happen in KC, where I think he felt he was entitled to things he wasn’t.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
wow.....
You act like hes adrian peterson……. calm the fuck down
Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes; after that, who cares?! He's a mile away and you've got his shoes!
I'm sorry,
I was under the impression this regime wanted football guys. You can’t tell me Pollard isn’t a player.
he can play football
Great in a 4-3 tampa 2 but not a guy who fit in a 3-4. We were warned there would be surprises because of guys not making the switch well. He can and will play but not here…and apparently other teams weren’t too keen on him either…except for free.
Chiefs go 9-7. LJ makes 1400 yards. DBowe makes 1200 yards. Defense #18.
Your Wrong...
Clancies system calls for safeties to blitz and play up close. They also play zone too. t6his had nothing to do with this play. It has everything to do with the arguements which im sure Haley was at fault for. i would say pollard but who doesnt haley argue with. Haley puts his pride in front of his job, but it doesnt matter I wouldnt be surprised if he is gone in 2 years. Hey I got an Idea lets release Albert why were at it. Or maybe all the safties. GO HALEY. Awesome proven coach. Fuck give me McDaniels over haley, lol , well not mc d but anyone else.
I'm calm now...
sorta. I was already not please when there was trade talk, but I understood it. But to just flat out cut the guy? It blew my mind. And yes, for a moment the sky was falling. But this team is BAD. I just can’t understand how a baller like Pollard doesn’t make the team.
watch this
http://www.nfl.com/videos/kansas-city-chiefs/09000d5d8123fcaf/Seahawks-14-Chiefs-10
249 and 358 minute marks
by NFL season ticket holder on Sep 5, 2009 10:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Did you just copy and paste that from someone ELSE's comment?
Bask in the glory that is Kwame Harris. Poor Alex...
by JHWK on Sep 5, 2009 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
"top" tackler
He had the most tackles cuz we sucked and he was the last line of “defense” ..I Don’t know why everyones upset about this Pioli LOVES draft picks so OBVIOUSLY nobody wanted to trade for him….and I’m gonna keep saying this hes NOT A GOOD SAFETY…should’ve tried him out as a pass rushing LB in the 3-4 I thought he’d do better there…oh well…we bitch when Herm just gave him the job…we bitch cuz he can’t cover…and now we’re bitching cuz we just cut em? OH WELL
Cover 2
Doesn’t that give him alot of opportunity last season to ring up tackles?
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by ArrowheadGladiator on Sep 5, 2009 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Not terrible IMO
Not great but not terrible.
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by Chris Thorman on Sep 5, 2009 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions
I noticed I wasn't cringing any more when I saw #47 on the field.
Saw some good stuff from him on the regular D – better than just a guy counting on STs to guarantee him a job, no matter how shitty he was in regular D, which was what he looked like to me in ’08.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
just goes to show
you can NEVER expect to be right with predictting hte way this team will fluctuate. i hope we have some stuff cooking in the oven..thats all im sayin
This was not expected but
I’m not going to write off the season just yet. The shy is not falling (God I hope it isn’t)
is it me? or isn't about time the Lamar Hunt trophy belonged to His team?
I’m a Chiefs fan Dammit and I’m damn proud of it!
fit or not you dont give away a player like that.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
This cut list has me...
PARANOID!
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really why
smart moves all around …. C brown on IR cut a locker room detractions in Pollard
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I'll Say it now so you guys can know I'm a true follower: "In Pioli I Trust"
Go Chiefs!!!!!
He was that, Remeber him dancing on Hard Knocks that made us look great last year
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by 90,32,58,31,16 on Sep 5, 2009 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions
hard to agree
it was “smart” to give up pollard for anything less than a bag of footballs
well it seems we did try to trade him
from the rumors we read …no trade=cut ….
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Go Chiefs!!!!!
you cant ignore the fact
that its months away from the trade deadline and we weren’t forced to cut him.
No one gave anything for him
because we tried move him days before he’d be floating free on the market for anyone to sign.
Bask in the glory that is Kwame Harris. Poor Alex...
Bouzi
How do you know he was a locker room distraction? Just because others are saying he is? If LJ isnt a cancer in the locker room anymore, idk how pollard could be…
You may be cut next Thorman!:)
Now hopefully this team is fun to watch again! Thanks Scott, Clark!!
Pioli and Brady
Not to sound like a conspiracy theorist but I wonder as close as Brady and Pioli are if he was dead set against getting rid of Pollard after losing his star Quarterback Last year and still had the bad taste left in his mouth.. Either wasy this was a mistake.
that makes no sesne, Pollard will still end up one someone's roster
If that was the case Pioli would keep Pollard on the bench and not cut him so he can go somewhere else and take out Cassel
2009-10 Predictions:
1. Chiefs will win ATLEAST 6 games, which is a big improvement over 6 wins in 2 seasons
2. Succop will bring stability to the K position for the first time in years
3. Chiefs D will atleast double the number of sacks form last season
4. Cassel will be a top 15 QB
5. Todd Haley won't make a poster and jump around holding it up welcoming the Chiefs players to summer camp, I mean TRAINING camp
MCBRIDE IS STILL HERE I JUST FORGOT
GREAT! Pollard could be a hell of a better option at linebacker than fucking mcbride. we shouldve atleast tried bernard there. what the fuck.
Pollard's tackling skills (or lack thereof)
Always tries to go for the big hit and whiffs completely sometimes
2009-10 Predictions:
1. Chiefs will win ATLEAST 6 games, which is a big improvement over 6 wins in 2 seasons
2. Succop will bring stability to the K position for the first time in years
3. Chiefs D will atleast double the number of sacks form last season
4. Cassel will be a top 15 QB
5. Todd Haley won't make a poster and jump around holding it up welcoming the Chiefs players to summer camp, I mean TRAINING camp
one of each
gets cut
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Go Chiefs!!!!!
Most teams carry 3 TEs
But yea a Qb will go eventrually.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
Pollard Had a Blow up in the Face of the Defensive Cord not even a couple of weeks ago!!! What do you Expect???? Pioli and Haley wont put up with crap like that no matter who you are!! Pollard wasnt good in coverage either sloppy tackler..
hey im fine if morgan comes in and takes over
I just feel pollard had to net a 6 or 7
problem is
there’s NO FUCKING DEPTH now because Morgan may as well be a rook considering his experience last year and Brown is going to be injured before week 8.
Bask in the glory that is Kwame Harris. Poor Alex...
4 safties, that is depth
The quality of the depth is the great unknown, but they are keeping an average number of safties
read my explanation
I don’t care what the number is, if half of that depth is inexperienced and the other half is always injured, what kind of depth does that provide?
Bask in the glory that is Kwame Harris. Poor Alex...
Okay, here we go...
As usual, some knee jerk reactions.
Yeah, let's just keep matriculatin' the ball down the field, boys! ...
by oldchiefsfan on Sep 5, 2009 6:09 PM CDT reply actions 13 recs
Pollard released
I doubt there will be any other players trying to show up a coach any time soon. There’s a new Sheriff in town and the days of players shooting their mouths off are over.
agreed
good player but…..
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Yeah because
Robots following a rookie head coach that doesn’t know what he’s doing yet is much better than passionate, hard working players.
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Good point.
I don’t think it’s the blowup, per se. I think the blowup may’ve been a symptom of the negative undercurrent.
Remember the Boldin blowup. If the player’s passionate about winning football, I think he can look Haley in the eye and disagree with him, and remain in his good graces. My sense was that the blowup was more about Pollard and less about winning football.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
Completely agree. Whatever Pollard said or did, he cut his own throat and new......
management is not putting up with that crap.
The Report
I seen said after he had the yelling match, he pleaded with Haley, and Haley waived him off. Sounds more like Pollard may have wanted it HIS way rather than something that could have been worked out with the coach. Sounds like Haley agreed with Pender. Hard to say. Its all speculation. It’s not the end of this team or the world.
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by ArrowheadGladiator on Sep 5, 2009 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Pollard will land in Detroit
and suck there too.
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by KCSatchmo on Sep 5, 2009 6:10 PM CDT reply actions
pollard
had potential – just needed some coaching. he had the credentials in becoming a solid ball-hawk safety for god sakes he showed it at Purdue and was a 3rd round pick! – like what the fuck man. guy can tackle, thats atleast a very good thing for special teams AT BEST. what the fuck.
ummm
I’m sorry. Did you say he could tackle?
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by ArrowheadGladiator on Sep 5, 2009 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions
i'm telling you
Pioli cut him to make detroit waste their waiver pick on him….so the guy Pioli wants slips through
Detroit
already used their waiver pick
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by KCSatchmo on Sep 5, 2009 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions
O'Connell
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by KCSatchmo on Sep 5, 2009 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions
This isn't a fantasy league, guys
Detroit doesn’t drop to the bottom of the waiver queue after they claim someone. Waivers go by record. As such, Detroit will always have the first opportunity to claim a player.
If we put in a waiver claim on 10 guys and Detroit claims the same 10 guys, the Lions are going to get them.
And we claimed Guiterrez from the Patriots, remember? If it worked like you’re suggesting, we’d be right down near the bottom anyway.
Now THAT's devious!!!
But it makes sense that maybe he’s gearing-up for a guy that’s in his sights.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
I don't think this is the last of the cuts
We ARE going to sign a few players and someone else will have to go. Remember this is just the beginning of things yet to come. We are not at the RIGHT 53 yet. Hold on to your hats, it’s going to be a dark and bumpy ride.
is it me? or isn't about time the Lamar Hunt trophy belonged to His team?
I’m a Chiefs fan Dammit and I’m damn proud of it!
LJ is next
He left for vegas right after the rams game…they are pissed.
why is that bad ?
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Go Chiefs!!!!!
is it possible
maybe 24 hours from now we will all know why these cuts were made and be VERY happy about it? because thats what im hoping. Scott Pioli needs to have a few tricks up his sleeve i mean this is just way too dubious for me.
Both you guys please settle down.
We can disagree about Pollard without disparaging one another.
I’m on Aejfan’s side on the Pollard issue, just based on what I see on the field. Other good fans see things differently than me all the time, even though I always – I mean ALWAYS – come out on top (except for a few thousand incidents that were marred by bad weather).
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
lol
I guarantee you that whoever starts in place of Pollard doesn’t have a better year than he did last year with us.
Your reasoning is astounding
Bask in the glory that is Kwame Harris. Poor Alex...
by JHWK on Sep 5, 2009 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ridiculous
Gutierrez would have cleared waivers and could have been placed on the practice squad. One good preseason game by Morgan and suddenly he’s kept over a guy who has 4 years of starting experience and is only 24 years old? What about every other game Morgan’s ever played and been terrible?
Horrible move. I don’t like it whatsoever.
No way Gut clears waivers
Josh McDaniels would have started fondling himself as soon as he saw that cut
Agreed
McDaniels dont even have a starting QB for next week.
Who knows
WHAT…he is doing under that Belihoodie!
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by ArrowheadGladiator on Sep 5, 2009 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions
4 years...
starting experience? He only started the last two years. Its Morgan’s time to shine. I like this kid a lot.
I dont really care who got cut.
But I dont see how we keep a guy like Copper or the value in that. Unless he’s the first to go if we find someone else.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
NOOOOOOOOOO!!!
We could have gotten something for him! I cant believe we let him go. I hope our SS now is SHIT and they wished they had him back. HORRIBLE HORRIBLE HORRIBLE MOVE!!!!!
Ok i didnt mean it, really
But pollard was one of my fav players…I just dont see why/ how they couldnt get any trade value for him…And if this was over the fight that him and clancy had then its pretty damn lame…
Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes; after that, who cares?! He's a mile away and you've got his shoes!
Oh man that was bad, I should really read these things before posting
For those offended, I say we kick the guy who posted this things ass
That's pretty tasteless, mushin. Avoid the misogynistic stuff. Stuff like this can get on the last nerve of some very good women out there.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
Yeah, I know. Thought it said calm down, or a murder will happen
Missed that little rape word until it was on the blog. Big whoops, but whoops none the less
Wow thats terrible
but it makes me lmao
Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes; after that, who cares?! He's a mile away and you've got his shoes!
I’m sure the tried, and no one wanted him
Touchdown
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by 90,32,58,31,16 on Sep 5, 2009 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions
ZACH THOMAS
turns out he did have an injury settlement of some sort – so much for that fucking bullshit. ADAM SCHEFTER IS ALWAYS RIGHT.
We probobly did try,,,
Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes; after that, who cares?! He's a mile away and you've got his shoes!
Which is probably the thing that confuses me the most
We tried shipping Morgan. We tried to ship Pollard. Morgan has ONE good game (don’t get me wrong, I like the kid a lot) and suddenly a 2nd year kid with one solid preseason4 game under his belt and a perennially-injured over the hill import are more valuable than a 4 year starter who’s only 24 and one of the most passionate leaders on the defense gets cut for absolutely NO RETURN?
Makes no sense with the info we’ve got.
Bask in the glory that is Kwame Harris. Poor Alex...
I'm glad they found a way to keep Brown even if its a mystery and very convinient "injury"
Maybe he has a case of Boneitis.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
Before I start reading all the comments
I’d like to take a moment to thank everyone involved here for being so on top of things. I’ve been reading the site for a while and just decided to sign up last night.
It’s a little hectic trying to keep up at times when a post is active but I’ll get used to it. Keep up the great work.
welcome
came in ata busy time huh?
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Go Chiefs!!!!!
Glad to have ya
Now pick a side lol.
Touchdown
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by 90,32,58,31,16 on Sep 5, 2009 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Welcome Aboard BH
Always great to have a new face in the crowd
"Every day is an evaluation and if you’re not out there how can we depend on you? If you’re out there and you don’t know what to do, how can we depend on you?" Accountability -- Haley-style...
Sooooooo
No word on Turtle then?
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by ArrowheadGladiator on Sep 5, 2009 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think my biggest suprise was that London Fryar made the team
I don’t remember hearing anything about him through camp
I don't want no Yo-Yos
oh nvm, he was cut the day before
obviously thats part of me never hearing anything about him
I don't want no Yo-Yos
Welcome to AP bh13
is it me? or isn't about time the Lamar Hunt trophy belonged to His team?
I’m a Chiefs fan Dammit and I’m damn proud of it!
I just want to say..
I knew it. At least for everyone minus Pollard…didn’t see that coming but everyone else I expected to be cut!
Now dont get me wrong
I don’t like this move, but theres no reason to act like the sky is falling over it, which is frankly what im seeing from a few people
Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes; after that, who cares?! He's a mile away and you've got his shoes!
The anger is really over the top
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by KCSatchmo on Sep 5, 2009 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions
I mean seriously
is there anyone who should be completely safe after the last 2 seasons?
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by KCSatchmo on Sep 5, 2009 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions
The sky has been falling all offseason.
To think connor barth got this much “sky is falling” response too.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
Wow, I was JUST thinking the same thing
It’s really not that deep. Pollard was a for REAL yo-yo player.
"The first step to penetration... must not be lateral"
-Confucius, in contrary to Glenn Dorsey lining up in the 2-tech
The sky isnt falling...yet, but my roof collapsed.
Hopefully our replacement is better and or we get a big surprise soon..
All of a sudden
Taylor mays and Eric Berry dont seem like such illogical choices
Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes; after that, who cares?! He's a mile away and you've got his shoes!
They do when we have no Oline and LBs are getting old.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
I guess Pollard makes sense
He was made an example of. I would prefer he still be on the team but at least he’s going to Detroit where it will be hard for him to bite us in the ass
Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.
agreed
if SD gets their hands on him were screwed. Even better is if Detroit passes on him St Lois wont, both are in the NFC
Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.
I just hope!
mike brown could stay healthy, my friend is a long time bears fan and he said if mike brown is our starting strong safety he is bound to get hurt..
by albuquerquechiefsfan on Sep 5, 2009 6:22 PM CDT reply actions
I'm thinking Donald Washington moves to SS
and stays a reserve for corner
Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.
Get your best athletes on the field, he sez...
That thought’s been percolating in the back of my mind, too. I think it’s great to have a rookie CB with the measurables, AND ball skills AND field awareness.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
I think he splits time with morgan...
or maybe we see someone new like francisco like somone else suggested.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
thinking Colin Brown
was put on IR just to avoid waivers
by SillyHatDay on Sep 5, 2009 6:23 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I am just happy my question is answered
You CANNOT, after all “Milk” a sacred cow. Hmm. Who knew.
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by ArrowheadGladiator on Sep 5, 2009 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Glad he didn't try
and milk a BULL…he would have had a handful of…….
NO, resist.
Only “men” on the “sea”, can answer this.
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by ArrowheadGladiator on Sep 5, 2009 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Pollard gone is a huge meh
Dude was a wannbe big hitter, a frequent big whiffer, and a safety who couldn’t cover. He won’t be missed.
Aint got a beach and I see no mountains, landlocked loungin' in the City of Fountains.
by HIV 2 Elway on Sep 5, 2009 6:24 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
exactly
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by KCSatchmo on Sep 5, 2009 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh, quit yer damn sugar-coating everything, Elway!!!
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
why does david tyree excite you guys? hes a good special teamer AT BEST – i live in the metropolitan area and the giants have a bunch of average recievers and he couildnt even make that team.
i guess your right
i just want our WR corps to get better- im also heated because of hte pollard release and all thats surrounding it. forgive me. i do like tyree-
if he can hold onto the ball and run really fast in a straight line hes better than anything we got
Savage and Charles are fumblers and I don’t like risking our only nickel back, Legget, in return duties
I don't want no Yo-Yos
Hes not that kind of special teams guy but I like your thinking.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
Thanks for posting these cut updates, mushin
by DThomasReigns on Sep 5, 2009 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Site meter must be going nuts today
is it me? or isn't about time the Lamar Hunt trophy belonged to His team?
I’m a Chiefs fan Dammit and I’m damn proud of it!
Its too bad no one else has cut a "Pollard" yet in the form of a RT or KR/PR
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
Bottom Line
Pioli’s job is on the line, our entertainment is on the line. He sees a lot of stuff that we don’t see. We bring in the best GM in the biz and the second he makes a controversial decision he is suddenly a hack? He wants locker room chemistry…why waste that for an average safety? This guy has been doing this for years and we’re supposed to trust him to build a winner for us.
I dont mind that he's gone.
But theres absolutely no way this guy has zero trade value. Thats the only thing that I question.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
I agree with you, but still think we can question
There is no track record here and brilliant men have done stupid things before. See Bellicheck’s Cleveland stint. I scratch my head on this one. Not because we cut him, but because we let him go for free.
I can’t believe that there wasn’t a 7th rounder out there at least, but Pioli does wheel and deal with the best so I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt
So you think Pioli got offered a pick
and decided he’d just rather cut the guy?
We got no offers for him. Lets try to deal with teh reality that the rest of the league didn’t want him enough to give us a pick.
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by KCSatchmo on Sep 5, 2009 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions
I keep hearing that we had limited time
BUT…based on everything else our new management does, we find out, days after the fact exactly how long it has been brewing. Who knows. Pollard may have been out there a bit. BUT….with his name being obviously WELL connected with the injury of one of the leagues BEST QB’s, I find it hard to swallow that someone did NOT jump on Bernard if given the chance. Maybe the “professional” evaluaters of football talent did not see anything in him to warrant any kind of a transaction. Just my opinion. I could be wrong.
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by ArrowheadGladiator on Sep 5, 2009 7:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Look at the Moll deal to the Ravens today.
They get a serviceable RT out of the Packers for a nothing DB.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
There will be more cuts comming
We have to cut to add from now on, and I think we will be actively trying to add all the way til the trade dead line. I really don’t think we have the “Right 53” yet
is it me? or isn't about time the Lamar Hunt trophy belonged to His team?
I’m a Chiefs fan Dammit and I’m damn proud of it!
Yeah, and McBride's still on that "cut to add" bubble.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
Couple olineman there that he wouldve had his hands in scouting
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
lenoerd pope TE
i think we should take a look at him he is a good run blocker and still young..
by albuquerquechiefsfan on Sep 5, 2009 6:37 PM CDT reply actions
bernaaaaarrrddddd..........
He was a great hitter but i think his coverage wasn’t that good. Lets not start hatin Pioli…. If Mike Brown can stay healthy then we have no problem.
Francisco will be a Chief by tomorrow
Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.
of course
pollard was our lead tackler…our lb’s were playing with crisco on their hands! he had tons of guys get through to the second tier where he was waiting for them
Imagine, running up to your head coach in tears, saying, "Daddy, mean ol' Clancy yelled at me!"
“You’re cut.”
Talk To the Mother F*Ckin Hand BERNARD
by njchiefs on Sep 5, 2009 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Move on
You ain’t got nuttin’ comin’ Bernard.
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by ArrowheadGladiator on Sep 5, 2009 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions
I wonder how much the threat of an uncapped year affected this
Pollard would get locked up for 2 more years if next year goes uncapped and his salary would escalate. I wonder if there were no trade takers because of it.
I wander if were still gonna get a fictional depth chart....
It would be nice to see were people are actually gonna play. But I’m sure they’ll hide that so no one can know who to practice for.
"Whenever you go to a live sporting event, always bring a seeing eye dog and cane, just incase the refs forgot their's at home."
I think On Monday or Tuesday
Depth comes out for the games. But with last min moves it may be longer? Anyone know for sure?
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by ArrowheadGladiator on Sep 5, 2009 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions
tight end
garrett mills of vikes (nice receiver, hasnt reached his potential yet) was cut…maybe we’ll grab him
NO YO YO PLAYERS~
Ok settle down~ its ok, POLLARD is gone~ HE WAS A YO YO PLAYER~ negative, and to be on this team you must be a TEAM PLAYER, not a ME PLAYER!
IT WAS SAID from the get go, and you could see the writing on the wall~ to be upset because of such a move, is not needed~
YO YO PLAYERS NEED NOT APPLY , no matter if your a starter or not!
GOOD MOVES by the NEW REGIME~
get use to it my fellow CHIEFS FANS!
What do LAWYERS and SPERM have in common?
One in TEN MILLION make a HUMAN!
You're out of your mind
if you think Pollard wasn’t a team player.
Was he
not the only one that took offense against a coach? Did he not practice hard one day and not the next ( from what I read, he didnt! ) This is a yo yo player~ one that gives it his all one day ( when he sees fit ) and doesnt the other~ Coach went on record way before his yelling at a coach, and said that exact thing
NO YO YO PLAYERS~ yes POLLARD was a yo yo player, not in skill but in giving to the TEAM what coach wanted DAY IN AND DAY OUT!
sorry, but i am NOT out of my mind, and im not going to yo yo with you on the subject!
POLLARD is and was a yo yo player in the chiefs mindset~ if he wasnt, he
would still be a chief!
What do LAWYERS and SPERM have in common?
One in TEN MILLION make a HUMAN!
by Kansan_Chief on Sep 6, 2009 12:40 AM CDT up reply actions
Haley has said
Very clearly. They want players who are consistent day in and day out. He even said once if they are only “ok”, he wants consistency. Yo-Yo is NOT that in any way. Just my Opinion.
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by ArrowheadGladiator on Sep 5, 2009 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions
If you really sit and think about it
yeah I still don’t like the move but there’s enough there for it to make sense. Especially if Fransico signs with us
Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.
Pashos signs with the Chiefs...
Is a headline I’d like to see.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
WOW
Would’nt Colin Brown have been a perfect canidate for the practice squad??? Pollard – they must have been so negative shopping him that people were like let’s just wait and get him for nothing………………He’ll be picked up in 48 hrs…..
Pollard will be a starter for the Lions by week 1
Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.
Figurs is an awesome returner
can he stay healthy is the issue
Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.
QBs
They should have gotten rid of Thigpen.I can pass the ball better than he can, How do you underthrow a 4yd pass?They need to trade him for a good right tackle, if hes worth that much.
is why we drafted one on the third
Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.
You just have to love the fact that KC cut a starting saftey and there's nothing on ESPN
While the Bills cut their #3 RB and it hit the wire in 10 minutes.
I see your point, but I remember last spring kinda scratchin' my head at all the Pollard man-love
here and in mainstream articles. I think this might be a lot of “I want to believe” with regard to Pollard.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
I had to preface every other opinion with "I respect the opinions of the majority who really like this guy, but...
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
I remember
earlier this off-season there was a national media article bashing our secondary & there were a lot on here who really criticized them for it & I wondered then what I was missing. I always thought that some of us held Pollard in much higher esteem than what the rest of the NFL did.
I am highly unimpressed with the moves to cut Pollard and Lelie.
Pioli/Haley better find someone worth replacing Pollard—right now, I don’t think we have that player. I feel they created another hole.
Lelie proved himself more than Copper. Cutting Pollard or Lelie over Thigpen is just assinine to me.
That player better be = or better than pollard or were in trouble. Just because morgan
made 1 good catch doesnt make him god.
No, it doesn't.
But Morgan prob’ly has better coverage skills. With the front 7 playin’ stout, I want more coverage skills and anticipation from safety, and not just a durable guy who will reduce the level of embarrassment on a bad team. I want somebody to stick a fork in the opposition on a GOOD team. A real “resistance is futile” kind of guy.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
what happens if morgan does pan out
i can use the same argument you used. just beacuse he has one good game doesn’t mean that he’s not going to have any more.
Haha this is funny....
http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=NFL&id=3949
“Patriots waived OT Ryan O’Callaghan and S/WR Ray Ventrone.
O’Callaghan didn’t have a bad camp, but second-round pick Sebastian Vollmer passed him to be New England’s No. 3 offensive tackle. O’Callaghan could probably start for the Chiefs right away. Ventrone was a special teamer."
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
totally
its funny that Rhodes and Thomas were bigger cuts to NFLN than a safety in his prime with nice stats….
I know, he took bad angles, ok, ill move on, but still, hes a nice waiver pick up
Bernards Missed Tackles in Seattle Game
Warpaint Illustrated has a nice article posted about why Pollard got demoted to second string do to missed tackles (5) in the Seahawks game.
Bernard missed tackles in every game
He either laid a dude out or bounced off and asked for an autograph as they ran past
Yeah, because I guess you would rather see Thigpen or Guit throw incompletion or picks as a third QB…
by Tomahawk_Chop on Sep 5, 2009 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions
For a week to get the play book...no never mind. We know that
Al: GO DEEP damnit
Cable: Uh Al, we’re on defense
Al: YOU’RE FIRED!!!! Where’s my damn projector?
by mushin on Sep 5, 2009 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
That was just a wet Willy
NO!
Can't wait to put my pads on a Raider, My Helmet on a Hater. I'm the Arrowhead Gladiator!!
by ArrowheadGladiator on Sep 5, 2009 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions
might as well
unless they see a future for thig development-wise, he’s pretty much played himself outta trade value this preseason.
Dude, until that O-Line gets fixed, 4 QBs may not be eNOUGH!!!
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
Today's cuts - a summary
- CB Jackie Bates – NO SURPRISE
- TE Tom Crabree – NO SURPRISE
- DE Dion Gales – NO SURPRISE
- DE Bobby Greenwood – NO SURPRISE
- G Darryl Harris – NO SURPRISE
- WR Taurus Johnson – NO SURPRISE – though I was rootin’ for ’im. Still might make PS.
- WR Ashley Lelie – a surprise. Probably mentality and learning curve make him a liability?
- DT Derek Lokey – NO SURPRISE
- S Bernard Pollard – NO SURPRISE – although I hoped there’d be some trade value.
- S Ricky Price – NO SURPRISE
- LB Zach Thomas – NO SURPRISE – but I was holding out hope that they were just trying to keep him healthy.
- RB Javarris Williams – NO SURPRISE – wasn’t gettin’ touches.
- WR Rodney Wright – NO SURPRISE
Placed on Injured Reserve
- G Colin Brown – As others have said, this is probably to hide a not-yet-ready-for-primetime player of the future. They prob’ly would’ve kept him if they weren’t so desperate to get as many looks at as many linemen as possible.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
All in all, some of the most heated arguing I've done, lately,
has borne fruit. Gales gone. Pollard gone. McBride and Studebaker making it (so far). Lelie was about the only surprise. If they think he’s not good enough, MAYbe these professional talent evaluators are saying they have something significantly better, which is cool with me.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
+1
No reported injury on Brown and all of the sudden he’s on IR not even PuP. Thats fishy.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
Neither one makes a difference
Pollard has been overrated since he was drafted. Lelie just didn’t get it I guess I wanted him so suceed but didn’t happen. Really this makes us a better TEAM.
As in a WHOLE UNIT
in reality
with the 53 we have as of this minute…we are fighting for 3rd in the AFC West…6 wins would be a stretch…
Now i know there will be some moves before opening dat and this roster will look much different…but as of now…our team is horrible…sadly
What did you expect? Going from 2-14 to the Superbowl in a year?
That’s totally unrealistic. Pioli isn’t going to mortgage the future. He is building a 53 man team that is built to win in January. You can’t get that done in one season. And there is no doubt this team is better than last year’s.
Toby is in HR, which technically means he works for corporate, so he's really not a part of our family. Also, he's divorced, so he's really not a part of his family.
I'm shocked!
I thought we were Super Bowl contenders for the last 5 years.
Sackoff (McIntosh,Goff) like Brangelina.
Rosenhaus still saying Thomas wants to play even after the release.
But he probably has to to even apply for an injury grievance.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
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at least were not a packers fan
who cut their round 2 pick from last year and placed harrell (1st round) on the IR in three out of three seasons
Mike Brown
will not play a full season. Our house is a Chiefs/Bears house and I have been watching him for years. He is an exciting player for sure. He will miss games. This is not an endorsement for Pollard.
Yup
If they think Morgan can play like he did in the preseason every game that Brown misses then they are in for a surprise….
Whoa
“This is like those people at the town hall mettings argueing on behalf of insurance companies,”
I was agreeing with you until you started the crap about politics.
Anyone else just catch the commercial on NFL Network for Red Zone with Pollard getting burned?
by jbj8609 on Sep 5, 2009 7:54 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Did they take that from any game he played ever?
Penn State to Kansas City...Always a winning combination.
Is this a possibility with the waivers....
that IF he makes it past detroit and st louis we can resign him….like what haley did to bowe, just EXTREME?
That be an even more colossal waste
of time and effort than cutting him in the first place.
Bask in the glory that is Kwame Harris. Poor Alex...
Also....
At least this makes the JA trade better value to us in the end…keeping morgan, a pick from that trade.
You know...
Lately, the way we have performed in preseason, I really don’t see the chiefs doing well, not even average. Honestly things have worried me, including not scoring any TDs against 1st team defenses. I wouldn’t be suprised to see us picking top 5 again.
Hey good thing there is Mizzou football.
"Larry Fitzgerald, move over because there's another young gun, and his name is Dwayne Bowe from Kansas City" - 2009 Cris Carter Hall of Fame WR
In Pioli We Trust! Right?
REALLY F'ING PISSED AT THIS!
Did anyone watch the games last year????
Pollard was the most exciting player we had on defense!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He’s one of the hardest hitters I’ve seen since Steve Atwater!!!!!!!!!!!!
AND WE CUT HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?????
This makes no sense! Complete stupidity!
WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!??????????
Missed the most tackles
What part of “I’m not a yo-yo coach and I don’t want yo-yo players” did you miss?
Negative Ghost Rider the pattern is full...
Bad Move
Pollard isn’t a cocky player he’s an intense guy that isn’t afraid of anyone including the head coach, Haley is just to head strong and couldn’t handle him. It’s funny reading everyones comments about Pollard not being able to tackle, he was hands down the best tackler on the team, if you really want to see someone who can’t tackle watch film of how many tackles Page missed over the last 2 seasons. The sad part is the Chiefs not only get nothing in return for Pollard but they also lose one of the only players who actually played with some passion and heart over the last few shitty seasons. Think about it, how many guys have the Chiefs had on defense in the last 2 or 3 years that flew around hitting people like Pollard? I can only think of one Jared Allen, and sure he was out of position alot but he made plays and gave the fans something to cheer about. If Derrick Johnson played with the passion Pollard did he’d be playing in Pro Bowls. Well at least they still have Flowers and Carr in the secondary…………
Come on everyone, Pollard was the best of the worst (as Chef Ramsey would say). Obviously they see something in morgan that pollard didn’t have. To be honest pollard was basically playing a deep linebacker. He hits hard but how many recievers got open behind him, it seemd he forgot he was the LAST LINE OF DEFENSE. Don’t get me wrong I’m a bit shocked, but I prepared myself for this as soon as I heard he was on the trading block. I just went through the list of most notable cuts and there are a couple safeties we could look at, as for keeping four qb’s, well I think we’re gunna try to showcase one of them for a pick. In my opinion about Lelie though, that is kind of dissapointing. I thought we needed help at reciever since Darling went down on the IR. Lelie caught basically everything thrown his way over the preseason so what gives!? he’s fast and he caught the football!! WHAT DO YOU WANT TODD HALEY!!!?? WHAT THE HECK DO YOU WANT!!!???
I'm not pissed that we kept Morgan
I’m pissed that we A) gave Pollard up for nothing, and B) kept Mike “I need an exo-skeleton” Brown instead of Pollard.
Bask in the glory that is Kwame Harris. Poor Alex...
HAHAHA
Some of you are still so attached to “hype” rather than “performance”.
Why are you mad that Pollard is gone? Because he hit someone really hard once and the CBS announcers told you that he was the “Bonecrusher” (oooooooohh)??? And because Herm told you he was good for 2 years? (Just like the rest of the team was gonna be good (“Get over it”))……. Pollard gave up WAY more big plays than he stopped. It is clear that this organization doesn’t give a **** about hype. I absolutely love it. Carl Peterson would have kept Pollard based on the presumption that he was “The Bonecrusher” and a shut down safety that everyone said “He could have been”….Just like Peterson signed Ty Law based on what he did 8 years earlier in his career…. clearly when he was past his prime. Listen. Pollard was a safety on a team that ACCIDENTALLY made the playoffs once, and went 6-26 for 2 seasons after. I don’t get why everyone is so attached to BAD players. I don’t care if he hits hard. He never had a concept of coverage, ALWAYS got made a fool of on play action, and frankly did nothing for a defense that finished in the basement of the league. FORGET ABOUT HIM. CLEARLY NOBODY IN THE NFL CARES ABOUT HIM…. or he would have had trade value.
almost 100 tackles is bad play,
Your so stupid, He was 3rd in the league in tacklesfor safeties last year. This just goes to show Todd Haley isnt a good coach. He let his personal feeling or Clancies get in the way of The Right 53. You cant be honestly happy that our starting safeties are going to be Page who is remarkably worse then Pollard, and Mike brown who gets injured every year. I dont care how much you dont like a guy, You dont just release him. I know one thing Im not buying any tickets to the Chiefs 3-13 season……By the way hell be on another team in a few days, probably the lions. Because they are 1st in the waiver order.
how do you know he's the right 53?
are you the coach? just because you like the guy doesn’t mean he was the right fit for the team.
its so funny because you guys have been sucking this regimes dick for 6 mths. I hoe you feel like you just got raped in an ally behing an IHOP
Dude that is way out of bounds
Hey they are not going to sit back, and be content with bs like the previous regime. There will be moves to make this team better.
Now hopefully this team is fun to watch again! Thanks Scott, Clark!!
Why are you jocking their nuts like this dude. What makes you7 think their proven. Pioli is from the belcheck tree and none of them were succesful. This is a dumb move to cut a guy who is in the top 10 safties in the league, Atleast keep him til the end of the year when his contract exspires then dont resign him if you dont want him. This was all because of the argue,ment. Haley put his emotions and pride in front of putting toegteher a talented football team. You keep on riding their nuts dude, Im not buying any tickets this year though. They got 1700 bucks out of me last year, They wont get a dime this year. Thanks cott oh thanks clark, your clueless dude. Hey maybe they will get on here and read your qoute man. This was a bad move for the Chiefs, exspecially when theier still trying to sell out the stadium.
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