Chiefs to pick up a cut QB
by Goldzone on Sep 4, 2009 3:36 PM CDT
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Inside scoop says the Chiefs will pick up a released QB from another team in the next few days. Prediction... Thigpen traded for 5th rounder; Guttierez to practice squad; Croyle to compete with new pick up for backup to Cassell; Croyle to start vs. Ravens. Take these to the bank!
Also, Savage and Battle will make the team with the absence of Smith. Lawrence and Savage will return kicks. The Chiefs are on the right track, however next Sunday against the Ravens could get ugly. Any chance they have is with the defense pulling a couple fo turnovers.
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Thigpen traded for a 5th? I thought that ship had sailed.
Who is the QB? Cmon I need to know now.
by Chiefsfan1970 on Sep 4, 2009 3:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
still a prayer
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
by stagdsp on Sep 4, 2009 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trent Green
"Hell yes I love my truck, but I want you to know, honey I love your love the most" - Eric Church
by Matt_Grbac on Sep 4, 2009 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey the irony of it all is that...
Grback predicts Green to come back….that’s actually pretty funny to me…but I’m stoned so ..
by krayfish on Sep 5, 2009 7:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nobody is giving us anything for Thigpen.
by saskwatch on Sep 4, 2009 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1...
His last performance…2 completions to Chiefs, 2 to Rams…will never bring a fifth…
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by woodman212 on Sep 4, 2009 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
C'mon Woodman!
That’s 4 of 7. 57% completion isn’t horrible!
by Reno_Chief on Sep 4, 2009 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe thiggy forgot to...
look for arrowheads on the helmets!
he hasnt had a chance in camp….lol
"The receivers are an integral part of the passing game." - Hank Stram
by kcfansinceakid on Sep 4, 2009 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
should have taken it when we could get it….
by rich04 on Sep 4, 2009 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That doesnt work.
Gut is no longer eligible for the practice squad. He’s been active on an NFL roster for 6 games making him inelgible. Also long term he’s probably better then the other two guys we have as far as potential is concerned.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Sep 4, 2009 3:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Not to mention...
Id bet my lunch that Cassel starts on Sunday.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Sep 4, 2009 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No way GB.....take it to the bank bro!!
"Hell yes I love my truck, but I want you to know, honey I love your love the most" - Eric Church
by Matt_Grbac on Sep 4, 2009 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes sir...
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Sep 4, 2009 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lawrence and Battle returning kicks...
They both have to make the team first…especially Lawrence
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by Matt_Grbac on Sep 4, 2009 3:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't give a 5th.........
of cheap gin for Thigpen.
Can't wait to put my pads on a Raider, My Helmet on a Hater. I'm the Arrowhead Gladiator!!
by ArrowheadGladiator on Sep 4, 2009 4:01 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
me neither
Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying
by Steve_Chiefs on Sep 4, 2009 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
BS rumor
We aren’t getting anything for Thigpen, and Gut can’t be a practice squad guy. Also what QB in the league that’s going to be cut (besides maybe Jackson from Minnesota) could possibly help us?
"The spirit, the will to win, and the will to excel are the things that endure. These qualities are so much more important than the events that occur." - Vince Lombardi
by Shawn on Sep 4, 2009 4:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Jackson... Now that's interesting.
He’s pretty damn good IMO. I doubt that’s happening though.
by Chiefsfan1970 on Sep 4, 2009 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The second coming of Tyer Thigpen
Dauntlessly Matriculating
by SoCalChief on Sep 4, 2009 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OH GOD NO!!
I take it back I take it back!
by Chiefsfan1970 on Sep 4, 2009 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
espn insider
says jeff garcia might get cut. which i find pretty unlikely. but he’s still better than our backups if he does get cut.
by jared_calhoun on Sep 4, 2009 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jeff Garcia is a very good QB...
I live in Florida…he’s a really solid QB….just a little old…but who isn’t? Seriously WHO?? WHHOOOOOOOOO?? Answer me!
by krayfish on Sep 5, 2009 7:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll take backup NFL Quarter Backs with hot wives for 800$ please Alex....
Brodie Croyle, Matt Cassel, and this newly signed third string, former Eagle QB, form the holy trinity of hot wives?
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Sep 4, 2009 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How come sex hasn't posted pics yet?
Negative Ghost Rider the pattern is full...
by cpa913 on Sep 4, 2009 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
because...
he’s still busy with them…he’ll post when he’s “finished” (giggle)
by HeatherChiefsLvr on Sep 4, 2009 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
Good one Shaggy
rec’d
Negative Ghost Rider the pattern is full...
by cpa913 on Sep 4, 2009 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And the ref takes a point away.
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.
by BigRedChief on Sep 4, 2009 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who giggles anymore?
+1
Thank You Carl Peterson for drafting Dustin Colquitt
by KansasCityShuffle on Sep 4, 2009 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Females...lol
(Sorry Steve…)
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by woodman212 on Sep 4, 2009 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
High-five
if in fact you’re referring to Steve as a female.
Thank You Carl Peterson for drafting Dustin Colquitt
by KansasCityShuffle on Sep 4, 2009 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Touche :)
Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying
by Steve_Chiefs on Sep 4, 2009 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
When's the 3rd shift post going up?
or when is the 3rd shift post coming down?
Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying
by Steve_Chiefs on Sep 4, 2009 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
of which...
the last time I checked…I am one :) In reality, I laugh pretty friggin loudly. I only giggle when I’m being flirty
by HeatherChiefsLvr on Sep 4, 2009 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jackson doesn't fit Haley's offense; So scratch that one... Sorry!
by Goldzone on Sep 4, 2009 4:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
How doesn't he?
traditional pocket QB is what Haley’s offense is all about, I doubt Jackson will be released anyways.
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by Shawn on Sep 4, 2009 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dude...just take it to the bank bro!
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by woodman212 on Sep 4, 2009 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jackson is not a traditional pocket QB!
If Haley liked Jackson, he would also like Thigpen; And that is not the case!
by Goldzone on Sep 4, 2009 4:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Jackson isn't a scrambling QB!
He is a pocket QB, he only has 95 rushing attempts with the team in 3 years! Thats compare to his 524 passing attempts in the same time period, once again he IS a traditional style QB. Where is your logic on this?
"The spirit, the will to win, and the will to excel are the things that endure. These qualities are so much more important than the events that occur." - Vince Lombardi
by Shawn on Sep 4, 2009 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also I do agree Feely could have a chance at a backup QB spot with us
"The spirit, the will to win, and the will to excel are the things that endure. These qualities are so much more important than the events that occur." - Vince Lombardi
by Shawn on Sep 4, 2009 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Care to speculate on the QB in question Goldzone?
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.
by BigRedChief on Sep 4, 2009 4:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Jackson plays in Chilly's system
His comfort zone is passing outside of the pocket. Minnesota has discouraged that with him, and that is why his running totals are down. Haley wants another type such as Warner. Do any of you think Jackson is anything like Warner? Case rested.
by Goldzone on Sep 4, 2009 4:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
There is no merit to your argument
I have the unfortunate luxury to see Jackson play every sunday being that I live near Minnesota and Jackson is not like Warner because he isn’t as good as Warner, but is a genuine pocket QB. I would much rather have Jackson on this team than Feely. Neither of which in my mind will happen.
"The spirit, the will to win, and the will to excel are the things that endure. These qualities are so much more important than the events that occur." - Vince Lombardi
by Shawn on Sep 4, 2009 4:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
No argument. Simply stating facts!
Jackson likes to throw on the run and Haley is against any of that improvisation! Hence the demoting of Thigpen. It’s real simple. He alos doesn’t want to latch onto players that have not had success!
by Goldzone on Sep 4, 2009 4:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
So A.J. Feeley
who has a 55.9 percent completion percentage for his career is successful? Not to mention he is an interception machine.
"The spirit, the will to win, and the will to excel are the things that endure. These qualities are so much more important than the events that occur." - Vince Lombardi
by Shawn on Sep 4, 2009 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Keep in Mind; We're talking backup to Cassel here.
by Goldzone on Sep 4, 2009 4:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I do agree that Feeley could be a servicable backup and even a great 3rd QB
I also still stand that Jackson would be a better option if available, even in our system.
"The spirit, the will to win, and the will to excel are the things that endure. These qualities are so much more important than the events that occur." - Vince Lombardi
by Shawn on Sep 4, 2009 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Click "Reply"
Then type…that organizes the conversation…
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by woodman212 on Sep 4, 2009 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Keep in mind; Feeley has had some success and some wins
That is really the key here. A spot starter that can possibly pull out a win if needed. I don’t believe anyone is confident that Croyle can do that?
by Goldzone on Sep 4, 2009 5:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
If thats all we're looking for then bring back Huard.
Hes a champ coming off the bench. Actually I really wouldnt be against that pick up at all.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Sep 4, 2009 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cassel, Huard, Gut.
Trade Thigpen and Croyle for some oreos and some milk to dunk them in.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Sep 4, 2009 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So you want to trade them to the DSRL?
http://www.nabiscoworld.com/oreo/dsrl/home.aspx
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.
by BigRedChief on Sep 4, 2009 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Some Merit to Huard; However we need someone who can stay up on their feet.
Keep Guessing
by Goldzone on Sep 4, 2009 5:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
"Reply" function, please...
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by woodman212 on Sep 4, 2009 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Staying on your feet has little to do with the QB.
Especially since its already been established that Haley isnt interested in mobile QBs.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Sep 4, 2009 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
HUH? I said Haley doesn't like QB's that improvise on their own!
I believe Todd would tell you he wants his QB upright! Where’s my Excedrin? Ha!
by Goldzone on Sep 4, 2009 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Too many holes in the story already but keep trying.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Sep 4, 2009 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No Holes! I said Cut QB; They will land one off the waiver wire.
Start the speculation. I have a clue. Double up on my Excedrin I guess!
by Goldzone on Sep 4, 2009 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And what happens to Gut since he's not eligible for PS again?
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Sep 4, 2009 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Look deeper!
GM’s cut behind the scenes deals all the time. (especially Pioli); they can hide Gut on another teams PS. Believe it or not, it has happened before. They then trade for him back if so desired. It’s not collusion, it’s just poker. Although, they might cut him outright. Thigpen has more value, even if they can’t trade him.
by Goldzone on Sep 4, 2009 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're not understanding.
Gut isnt eligible for anyones PS. A player not eligble for one teams PS means he isnt eligible for any.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Sep 4, 2009 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If they don't keep Gutierrez
after what we saw yesterday, I have to question the objectivity here.
Granted, I’m not saying Gutierrez is the only answer, but he’s head and shoulders better than those two. Especially that clown running the circus in the 3rd quarter.
by jcru on Sep 4, 2009 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There is REAL NFL game tape on both Thigpen and Croyle. They are both effective NFL QB’s in REAL NFL games. Stop being so over-reactive to 1 or 2 games in the exhibition season.
by dablueguy on Sep 4, 2009 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You mean last year?
I have the game tape from game one. You have an entire season of watching Thigpen. Does any of it impress you?
by jcru on Sep 4, 2009 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Absolutely. Thigpen improved a ton from beginning to end, and had some outstanding games. He’s a young QB with upside. I’m not going to let 2 games in exhibitions, where he’s playing with 2 broken ribs overturn what he did last year. And Croyle looked good also, when he played, so again, I’m not going to let 1 crappy game in the exhibition season overturn what he showed in real NFL games.
by dablueguy on Sep 4, 2009 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wrong! He can be traded and then moved to a PS. It's been done.
Check with Mr. Poker Pioli
by Goldzone on Sep 4, 2009 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There are specific rules for practice squad eligibility. You’re either eligible or you’re not. I believe Gutierrez was on NE’s active squad for 15 games last year backing up Cassel.
by dablueguy on Sep 4, 2009 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Guys! Quality GM's find a way around issues!
It was also illegal for the Pats to video tape the opponents practices and games, but they did it. I’m not saying that Pioli is a cheater, only that he knows how to work the system and get around page 502 of the NFL rulebook! With IR’s, PUP’s, PS’s, etc.., A quality GM can find ways to make it happen. Trust me, Pioli will be doing all of these things as he did in New England. You will just need time to see all of this play out! If he wants to keep a player, he will find creative ways to do it. Period!
by Goldzone on Sep 4, 2009 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok you just keep believing that the league wont notice a team putting a non-eligible on the PS.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Sep 4, 2009 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm saying there are ways around it!
First of all, I’d have to see the nuances of the rule. Injuries play a part in all eligibility rules. He can come down with a mystery ankle spain and end up on PUP. Stay tuned, you’re gonna see a lot of stuff with Pioli!
by Goldzone on Sep 4, 2009 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
PuP list and PS two completely different things.
PS eligibility is black and white if youve been active on an NFL roster for 6 or more weeks you are no longer eligible for any PS. Gut was active for 5 games the season before last and one game after Brady was injured last year. Pioli may be able to bend the rules but math is math and 5+1= 6.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Sep 4, 2009 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pioli is great for a reason! Trust me, you'll see!
by Goldzone on Sep 4, 2009 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No doubt he’s great, but he can’t put a non eligible practice squad player on the practice squad.
by dablueguy on Sep 4, 2009 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You can take that to the bank!
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Sep 4, 2009 7:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe he hires G as a QB coach?
Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying
by Steve_Chiefs on Sep 4, 2009 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Len Dawson
says that if Favre can keep coming out of retirement, so can he!
Blame my wife!
Waiting until August!
by sir eccles on Sep 4, 2009 5:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
+1
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by woodman212 on Sep 4, 2009 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So since your Bill Gates, can I borrow a few bucks? Just a million or two would do it.
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.
by BigRedChief on Sep 4, 2009 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sure! But a dollar is not worth a dime these days!
by Goldzone on Sep 4, 2009 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Even so, I would take a milion or two dimes!
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.
by BigRedChief on Sep 4, 2009 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Should keep Gutierrez
Haley talks about situation football. Look at the situations this guy was placed in. I would argue he played them exactly how Matt Cassel would have.
If you are starting a game, or even the 2nd half, that’s one thing. But, this guy is put in with less than a quarter left and expected to wrestle victory from the jaws of defeat.
When you are put in, down 8 with minutes on the clock, you have to be a gun slinger. You attempt low percentage passes that you wouldn’t normally attempt because you’re trying to do anything to win, not the norm.
Not to mention, look at what he had to work with for receivers, he’d never been given the benefit of throwing to the starters in a game situation. He’s a bargain, and he has balls to sit there in the pocket and take it, just like Cassel, that’s got to be better than the other two options.
by jcru on Sep 4, 2009 6:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
He would have to have live in-season game action to be properly evaluated
I am in favor of him sticking around as well. Personally, I like him over Croyle, he’s a lot more durable and it seems brighter! But it’s not gonna happen at this time. Croyle will start at Baltimore. Let’s hope he does well!
by Goldzone on Sep 4, 2009 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You don't think Cassel will be ready for Baltimore?
I think he’ll be playing. He won’t be 100% but I’d be shocked if Matt doesn’t play.
by jcru on Sep 4, 2009 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If he's not 100%, he won't play against that defense!
Remember, Haley knows that this is going to take a long time to clean up Herm’s mess, so he’s not going to blow up the franchise QB in game one against a stout defense, unless he’s sure it won’t aggravate the injury! It’s too soon!
by Goldzone on Sep 4, 2009 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
MCL sprain isn't that bad of an injury.
I’ve had that same injury, same leg, same tendon. Like I said, I’d be really shocked if he wasn’t out there next weekend.
by jcru on Sep 4, 2009 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd be equally shocked if he does play!
A different opponent would make the difference.
by Goldzone on Sep 4, 2009 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess one of us is going to be shocked then.
I’m hoping it’s you.
by jcru on Sep 4, 2009 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Two Words...
knee brace
The future is ours KC Chiefs fans!!!!!
N. Gift
by giftedchiefsfan on Sep 4, 2009 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
BTW, this is the NFL
Matt’s a professional, it doesn’t matter who the opponent is.
If you can play against the #32 ranked Defense, you can play against the #1 ranked Defense (or #2 in this case).
I’m positive Haley doesn’t think like your theory there, any head coach worth his job wouldn’t.
by jcru on Sep 4, 2009 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
?? Serious??
With all due respect to your take, Haley is not going to jeopardize his whole coaching career over his first game! Especially since they will be heavy underdogs! A healthier Cassel in week two against the Raiders at home makes too much sense! I’m not saying he should’nt play if he’s 100%, but if not ,you simply can’t put the whole season on the line in game one! Especially with the Chiefs back up QB situation. Haley is worth his job, and that’s why he would’nt do it. (By the way, your opponent and how you game plan for them means everything week to week. #2 ranked defenses do make a difference in how you game plan. If not anyone could be a head coach!).
by Goldzone on Sep 4, 2009 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Umm the Chiefs D ended Tom Brady's season
It can happen anywhere at any time. The opponent won’t factor into the decision at all. If he’s healthy…he plays, period.
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by KCSatchmo on Sep 4, 2009 7:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If he's a 100% he plays! If he's not, he doesn't, period!
And do a poll of head coaches, the opponents ALWAYS factor into coaches decisions on players. As well as envirornment, weather, etc,, Come on guys, this isn’t that tough! I’m with you in saying I’d like to see him healthy and play, but if not, so be it!
by Goldzone on Sep 4, 2009 7:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That kid from Philly
Demicheals or something like that. Did he get cut?
he was injured. injured bad.
by troy145 on Sep 4, 2009 6:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Take that to the bank!
(Whatever the answer may be.)
Rectal Froth
by The Donger on Sep 4, 2009 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Adam DeMichele*
14/22 with a TD in one appearance this preseason with the Eagles. Like Thiggy but good.
he was injured. injured bad.
by troy145 on Sep 5, 2009 1:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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