Chiefs Sign Two Players, Including a Former Patriot
by Joel Thorman on Sep 30, 2009 9:00 AM CDT
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The Kansas City Chiefs have agreed to terms with two players who are expected to be at practice this afternoon.
LB David Herron is a third year player coming from Michigan State (Yay Big Ten?). He was originally an undrafted free agent with the Vikings racking up appearances in 16 games. He also spent one week on the Patriots active roster.
He takes the place of the departed Monty Beisel.
The Chiefs also signed CB Mike Richardson who is a former sixth round pick of the New England Patriots out of Notre Dame. He's entering his third season and was released by the Patriots in the middle of training camp.
He takes the place of the departed Ricardo Colclough.
Not the most exciting moves since these guys weren't on anyone's radar. There had been rumors throughout the week that the Chiefs would promote WR Lance Long from the practice squad. The Chiefs also worked out veteran RT Mark Tauscher recently.
The Chiefs had two roster spots open this morning from all the activity yesterday so now they are at the 53 man limit.
(Thanks to ICTChief for the link)
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God damnit
Don't Fuccop Succop
by chicks_love_chiefs on Sep 30, 2009 9:02 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
With Bisel gone does that leave only...
Waters and Johnson left from the glorious 03 season?
Don't Fuccop Succop
by chicks_love_chiefs on Sep 30, 2009 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
sure does...
but can you call it glorious just cuz we were 13-3…we still lost the first playoff game to the colts.
by xfatdannx on Sep 30, 2009 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's better than what we have seen since.
Cassel has something to prove 3TD's against Eagles
by bringbacktheglory on Sep 30, 2009 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Herron
14 tackles in 14 games last year. WOW!
by jmcgoblue on Sep 30, 2009 9:03 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Not really impressed.
I think there is still room for another transaction because I do not see us carrying 4 TE on the 53 man roster when none really stand out as blockers or special teams players.
by saskwatch on Sep 30, 2009 9:04 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Maybe Long and O'Connell flip flop from active to PS?
The Good: Moved the ball some, stopped the run
The Bad: penalties and not getting a FG before halftime
The Ugly: losing to J. Russel who couldn't hit the broad side of a barn from five yards away
by KCporkchop on Sep 30, 2009 9:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Only three TEs, right?
O’Connell, Ryan and now Pope? Am I forgetting someone?
by Joel Thorman on Sep 30, 2009 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Holy crap primetime forgot someone?
It’s cool afterall he is easily forgetable.
Don't Fuccop Succop
by chicks_love_chiefs on Sep 30, 2009 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
To quote Eeyore from Winnie the Pooh,
“That’s OK. I’m pretty easy to forget”.
Maybe his nickname should be Eeyore?
by Dove40 on Sep 30, 2009 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OT
I am starting to wonder if Jones, Walker and Tauscher are all in really bad shape. There are a bunch of teams in need of LT/RT’s with exp… Yet they sit on the wire!
by flyin_squirl on Sep 30, 2009 9:05 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
probably so
Or they have unrealistic salary demands.
This whole deal of rotating scrubs on & off the roster is getting old (not that there are great players available to be taken).
by jmcgoblue on Sep 30, 2009 9:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
I just wonder if they are trying to find guys that have shown little but are willing to do things the Haley way…
by flyin_squirl on Sep 30, 2009 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why Is It Getting Old?
You sift the bottom of the roster in hopes of finding a small chunk of gold. Look at it like a numbers game. If you keep bringing in some athletic guys you might find a gem. Remember Priest Holmes was an undrafted free agent once upon a time and he turned out ‘ok’.
Hell if nothing else it gives us something to read about untll Sunday.
by Ryan in Nixa on Sep 30, 2009 9:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
heh, that's true
I guess I was just hoping for an OL pickup.
Regarding Priest, was he traded or released from the Ravens? I forget the details…
by jmcgoblue on Sep 30, 2009 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He wasn’t “re-signed” he wasn’t outright released, he basically became a free agent and with Jamal Lewis they felt they didnt need him.
by Ryan in Nixa on Sep 30, 2009 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And they were right....
….Preist would never have been the player he became without the offensive system we ran.
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.
by BigRedChief on Sep 30, 2009 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's Like Saying Joe Montana Wouldnt Have Been
worth a damn in the run n’ shoot or spread. Maybe not but Montana was a hall of famer in the West Coast.
As a side note Priest Holmes ran over 1000 yards (5.0 ypc) with the Ravens, a totally different offensive system than the Chiefs ran in the early 00’s.
by Ryan in Nixa on Sep 30, 2009 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Settle down, I never said he would have been a flop....
…Your statement was that because of Lewis the wouldn’t need Priest and they were right. Lewis was one of the most productive backs in the NFL for a handfull of years. Priest has a completely different skill set and one that the Ravens failed to fully utilize. I love Priest and he was the best RB in the NFL for a while, my point was had he stayed with the Ravens he probably never would have had the carrer he did.
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.
by BigRedChief on Sep 30, 2009 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m calm, I was just making a point about systems. I agree with your sentiment about him staying with the Ravens.
by Ryan in Nixa on Sep 30, 2009 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Finding 300 Pound Guys That Have Enough Agility To block
is a lot harder than finding a 230ish pound guy that can fly around and tackle. I’m sure Pioli is looking high and low and at the local Golds Gym for anything resembling an offensive lineman. :)
by Ryan in Nixa on Sep 30, 2009 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's getting old because
an effective O-line needs time to build some sort of continuity. The players to your side need to be able to anticipate who you will block and what your weaknesses are, so they try to compensate. I’m all for improving the O-line (it needs it badly) but flinging any warm body in there is not the way to do it. The coaches should identify who has the most ability in practice and let them play the damn game, they will get better with experience.
by Chiefs4Life on Sep 30, 2009 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They all probably look good in practice...going up against Dorsey and Jackson...
Don't Fuccop Succop
by chicks_love_chiefs on Sep 30, 2009 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
Just hope they dont get Cassel killed while they work out the kinks but you are right about the cohesion…
My question is that the combo of Albert, Water and Niswanger have been letting guys go right between them… That is starting to piss me off!!!
by flyin_squirl on Sep 30, 2009 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
To be fair
The only game where the line really looked awful was against the Eagles. I thought they looked mediocre against Baltimore (as opposed to awful) and decent against Oakland. I don’t think they’ll look this bad against any of the remaining teams, even with the same guys on the line. They just seemed shell-shocked in Philly for some reason, I doubt they’d look that bad playing in Philly again since they’d know what to expect.
by jmcgoblue on Sep 30, 2009 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well at least we
can flat out blame Pioli and Haley if Cassel gets murdered from the right side. a CB and LB for depth is CLEARLY better than a OL that would help out our line….not.
by Wrestler189s on Sep 30, 2009 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ya i noticed we do not pick anyone up on our blocking assignments or they
get there to late .
FOUR F'S FIND UM FEEL UM FUGUM FORGET UM.
by sexassassin on Sep 30, 2009 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, that worked wonders last year when we kept running the same
group of crappy players out there week after week. I’m so tied of hearing that we need to leave the line alone and let them work together. We are not talking about a group of young talented rookies, learning to work together. Albert, Waters and Rudy all played together last year…So why is the left side of the line getting blown up so much? Because of lack of talent. You let 5 guys learn to work together once you have established a core group. Chiefs haven’t found those players yet. I’m sure all these guys look great in practice. How they play on gameday is the true evalutation.
by vincent2668 on Sep 30, 2009 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
add runyon
to that list…i thought the eagles would have signed him weeks ago.
by kc571 on Sep 30, 2009 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Meh
"What?!?! I aint no Obama for the weed!"
-Turk McBride
by HIV 2 Elway on Sep 30, 2009 9:08 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
meh and meh
Braccae illae virides cum subucula rosea et tunica Caledonia-quam elenganter concinnatur!
by Buck'O on Sep 30, 2009 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What a joke..
Despite the mental gaffe, I’d still rather have Beisel over Herron.
by golfbard on Sep 30, 2009 9:09 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
they seem to only want those mental gaffes to come from 3rd year FA's
don’t you know that it’s unforgivable for an experienced veteran to do that?
Braccae illae virides cum subucula rosea et tunica Caledonia-quam elenganter concinnatur!
by Buck'O on Sep 30, 2009 9:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What Monty Beisel Lacked in Range and Quickness He Made Up For
With a lack of strength and discipline.
by Ryan in Nixa on Sep 30, 2009 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
Its ST tho
Unless you are on KR/PR strength does you no good on the coverage team…
by flyin_squirl on Sep 30, 2009 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Read that Again Squirrel
:) I made a funny.
by Ryan in Nixa on Sep 30, 2009 9:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah he wasn't great
but was it worth it to swap out one warm body for another three weeks into the season? Looking at these guys, it just doesn’t feel much like an upgrade.
Braccae illae virides cum subucula rosea et tunica Caledonia-quam elenganter concinnatur!
by Buck'O on Sep 30, 2009 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Except Herron is Young and Has Upside
Beisel was old and worn out and was on the decline. If you’re a bad team that isn’t likely to do squat this season you want to have as many ascending players as possible and as few descending (IE Beisel types) as you can dump.
Herron “could” become something while with Beisel you get what you see and it can only go down from there.
by Ryan in Nixa on Sep 30, 2009 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
True
It isnt like Beisel was all of the sudden going to become a solid starter… Not saying Herron will either but at least he might have a shot(10%)
by flyin_squirl on Sep 30, 2009 9:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
All these guys have upside
but preseason is over but you wouldn’t know it by the way we’re swapping players and tinkering with the depth chart. As soon as we settle down and show the players a little stability we might actually get to see some chemistry build. Who knows, maybe we’ll even improve a little.
Braccae illae virides cum subucula rosea et tunica Caledonia-quam elenganter concinnatur!
by Buck'O on Sep 30, 2009 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey
I just did a post saying almost the same exact thing, great minds i guess. :)
Cassel has something to prove 3TD's against Eagles
by bringbacktheglory on Sep 30, 2009 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well I thought it was hilarious.
"What we do in life, echoes in eternity!"
by Justin Bopp on Sep 30, 2009 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Herron
was playing OLB for the Vikes… I havent seen this kid at all. He is 25, 6’1" 239…
ESPN: Comment: Herron is an undersized linebacker with good toughness and athleticism. He is utilized primarily as a special-teams player and shows good range and agility on coverage units. He will need to gain weight and strength as well develop his overall reads and reactions to become a solid contributor at linebacker.
by flyin_squirl on Sep 30, 2009 9:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Key Words in the ESPN Write up
“shows good range and agility on coverage units.”
Beisel on ST BLAH!!!
by flyin_squirl on Sep 30, 2009 9:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Undersized is an understatement....I'd bet half of us reading are bigger than this guy.
Don't Fuccop Succop
by chicks_love_chiefs on Sep 30, 2009 9:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes But Beer Gut High School Football Heroes
that are 240 lbs at 5’10" don’t count. Being a legitimate 230 pounds of muscle with speed and range isn’t the same thing.
by Ryan in Nixa on Sep 30, 2009 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes but 6'1" 240 linbacker seems really really small.
Don't Fuccop Succop
by chicks_love_chiefs on Sep 30, 2009 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Zach Thomas
is 5’11", 240lbs. Just sayin’
by jmcgoblue on Sep 30, 2009 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
True...though he (was) a freak athlete....the exception, not the rule.
Don't Fuccop Succop
by chicks_love_chiefs on Sep 30, 2009 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Patrick Willis (SF 49ers STAR LB)
6’1 240
by Ryan in Nixa on Sep 30, 2009 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LB's
London Fletcher 5’10 245
Curtis Lofton 6’0" 240
Keith Ellison 6’0" 229
Thomas Davis 6’0" 240
Barrett Ruud 6’ 2" 241
Those are the 5 leading tacklers in the NFl at LB right now
by flyin_squirl on Sep 30, 2009 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha point taken
Don't Fuccop Succop
by chicks_love_chiefs on Sep 30, 2009 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are they available?
We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09
And Succop will be the Key in two of them.
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram
by Steve_Chiefs on Sep 30, 2009 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You that upset about losing a 3rd string linebacker?
I’m glad because it means Belcher is going to get more playing time.
by vincent2668 on Sep 30, 2009 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Any idea what the injury settlement was all about?
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.
by BigRedChief on Sep 30, 2009 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's better than a broken wheel, wonder if he goes practice squad.
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.
by BigRedChief on Sep 30, 2009 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
From everything I have read
He is a gunner on ST only as of right now… He was burned quite a bit at ND and that was with CFB WR’s
by flyin_squirl on Sep 30, 2009 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow...what a letdown
I’m really unimpressed. This is the best we can come up with?
by HTrayne on Sep 30, 2009 9:32 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Its 4 weeks into the season
What did you realistically expect?
by Ryan in Nixa on Sep 30, 2009 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll be here all week.
Tip the waitress.
by NJ Chiefs Fan on Sep 30, 2009 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think that is what they are trying to accomplish, we certainly are not winning with what we have already.
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.
by BigRedChief on Sep 30, 2009 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I expected better than two bums off the street.
WIth Runyan, Tauscher, Walker, Jones, even Marvin Harrison available, I was hoping we’d make a splash. I don’t know that we’ve actually improved much with these acquisitions. And why not Lance Long to the 53? And 4 TE’s? Being that Pope isn’t a blocker, I don’t see the sense in carrying 4, unless we’re going to start throwing out of 2 & 3 TE sets to Ryan, Cottam, and Pope. I’ll give Haley & Pioli the benefit of the doubt. Need to bounce back with a strong game against the Giants at home.
by HTrayne on Sep 30, 2009 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll agree with the "two bums off the street"
Obviously I, like many of us, really have no idea what these players are capible of…but it doesn’t look like much. Who know, diamond in the rough, yadda yadda…it seems unlikly. I was really hoping for a trade to fill in the 2 open spots, or at least one of the RT’s you mentioned. As for the Lance Long/ 4TE deal, I wouldn’t be suprised if there are more moves today or at least before the game Sunday.
Don't Fuccop Succop
by chicks_love_chiefs on Sep 30, 2009 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You are assuming that these guys would even want to sign with the Chiefs.
Why the hell would Harrison want to come and end his time with a crappy Chiefs team? Pioli may have approached all of these guys.
by vincent2668 on Sep 30, 2009 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
At least now we have the Pope on our side.
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.
by BigRedChief on Sep 30, 2009 9:42 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Now If Only We Could Sign Jesus
…. two threads and I get to use it twice …
by Ryan in Nixa on Sep 30, 2009 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And Herron's father
is a Pastor. I really think that we are approching the situation in the right manner now by seeking help from above!! :)
by ttownmikey on Sep 30, 2009 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that may be the only thing that can save this season at this point.
by MountainManMike on Sep 30, 2009 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No one needs to worry about Monty Beisel....
….Jon McGraw showed him the perfect grocery sacking technique.
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.
by BigRedChief on Sep 30, 2009 9:50 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It’s been a time honored tradition handed down from McGraw’s forefathers to Kurt Warner and now Monty Beisel wields the ancient art.
by Ryan in Nixa on Sep 30, 2009 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Come on Pioli
I swear I am tired of seeing retread Patriots…..Pioli needs to think outside the Patriot box. Herron is the exception but Richardson was on the Patriots. Damn that is getting old!!
"Hell yes I love my truck, but I want you to know, honey I love your love the most" - Eric Church
by Matt_Grbac on Sep 30, 2009 9:50 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Seems like they only pick up former Cardinals and Pats
Don't Fuccop Succop
by chicks_love_chiefs on Sep 30, 2009 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm Going to Refer to it as Dayton Moore Syndrome
Only ex-Braves and Braves scrubs are good enough for the Royals….
by Ryan in Nixa on Sep 30, 2009 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
But only ex-Royals are good enough for other teams.
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.
by BigRedChief on Sep 30, 2009 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
at least...
at least we r not the lions and picking up past chiefs scrubs.
by MountainManMike on Sep 30, 2009 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
On the other side of that, though ...
The Lions actually have a win this season.
by JacinB on Sep 30, 2009 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like Pioli and Haley but at some point you have to let the players become a team.
And Haley has said he wants players to step up and make plays, but if the players know that if they try to make a big play and mess up they will get benched or cut. So why would they even try.
Cassel has something to prove 3TD's against Eagles
by bringbacktheglory on Sep 30, 2009 10:00 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
This Cloud of Fear
Is media created. The only time I’ve seen guys get benched or cut is when they make stupid penalties or fail to run a route deep enough to get first downs. Gilberry’s falling on JaMarcus the Hutt basically cost us the Raiders game and Haley praised him yesterday because he was giving effort.
by Ryan in Nixa on Sep 30, 2009 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Leggett got benched,
he tried to get the int, he thought he had help in the inside but Beisel took the wrong angle and they scored a TD.
Cassel has something to prove 3TD's against Eagles
by bringbacktheglory on Sep 30, 2009 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Leggett has been a “yo yo player” thus far this season. He’ll make a nice break-up of a pass and the next play he’s woefully out of position or playing too soft on a third-down giving up the yards before he even makes contact with the receiver. I’ll stand by the media created cloud of fear.
Heck the one week Haley doesnt yell at anyone and we rolled over like my dog looking to get its belly scratched.
by Ryan in Nixa on Sep 30, 2009 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He got eaten alive vs the Ravens...and burned several times against the Beagles..
IMO he really has looked bad all year.
And what happened to Carr?….he was picked on all day last week. Perhaps he’s really more of a Tampa 2 corner, than a man cover.
Don't Fuccop Succop
by chicks_love_chiefs on Sep 30, 2009 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We suck again!
but not worse than we sucked yesterday at this time…
by iachiefsfan on Sep 30, 2009 10:14 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
continuity of suckage
seems to be part of the process. =)
by NJ Chiefs Fan on Sep 30, 2009 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch.
That’s all I see anyone doing about all of this.
How about some of you who are so opposed to all these pick ups make some suggestions for who you would pick up?
I like that they are trying and with exception to the eagles game (and come on, what did you really expect) the chiefs have looked a lot better this year than last. Why is that? Haley and Pioli.
Predictions.
1. Tank Tyler will end up surprising everyone and be the anchor of our line.
"...Said he couldn't go on the American way"
by Jux on Sep 30, 2009 11:06 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The LB spot i understand because we need the Depth at it
Plus he is an ex-Patriot. But the other i would have preferred a RT to help out our line because, even though i haven’t seen O’Callaghan play he doesnt seem that he will be much better than Ndukwe. Our team does look better than last years…but it seems that they aren’t addressing our biggest problem.
Do you agree with these moves that Haley and Pioli just made?
by Wrestler189s on Sep 30, 2009 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who?
I would love a solid RT too, but who is there to pick?
We have Bill Muir coaching the line and Pioli has a feel for his lineman (hah). Give them time to gel and if there is talent available I don’t think he is going to shy away from it.
I’d like to see how these people play before making a solid judgement. Anyone they pick up right now are going to have the stats of rejects because thats what they are, but that doesn’t mean they can’t game. Hopefully they will see it as their last chance to make something happen.
So yeah i guess i agree with getting rid of people that aren’t working out and giving someone else a try.
Predictions.
1. Tank Tyler will end up surprising everyone and be the anchor of our line.
"...Said he couldn't go on the American way"
by Jux on Sep 30, 2009 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thats true..
Its not like they are any worse because of these moves. It not as though we are cutting decent players for shit players. We are cutting shit players for players who are just probably shit, but theres a chance they could not be. Might as well go with the unknown and hope you get lucky IMO.
Don't Fuccop Succop
by chicks_love_chiefs on Sep 30, 2009 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
I’ll admit I know nothing about Herron but it seems by these signings theyre trying to tweak the bottom half of the lineup. I wouldve rather seen a guy like hobson be brought in but interested to see these two new players play.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Sep 30, 2009 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would say only replace players with better players.
I’m not sure I’d pick up anyone at this point. I’d be more concerned about what to do with the crap I have at hand. For all of the churning of the roster, we have a better kicker, we likely have a better QB, and one of our LBs is better. Pretty much every other position is about where it was at the end of the season. Wade seems to be a good pick up.
We are woefully worse at TE. We still have a head coach that can’t manage to keep us from wasting time outs.
We haven’t looked any better than last year. We were in close games then, too. The difference for this year is we have yet to decide to scrap our “pro offense” to go to a spread because our line can’t protect the QB to give him time to throw. That was an offense that at least put up points.
by NJ Chiefs Fan on Sep 30, 2009 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're right.
This time last year, we’d a) lost to an excellent AFC East opponent late in the game on the road the first game of the year, b) lost to the Raiders at home, and c) had just been embarrassed by an NFC team named after a bird of prey. All of that losing left us at 0-3 and the jokes of the NFL.
This year is entirely different. Or, not.
by JacinB on Sep 30, 2009 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Last Year we had a snake oil salesman talking in circles after games and a 20 year GM at the lead. it’s completely different.
by Ryan in Nixa on Sep 30, 2009 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The people in charge may be different, but the results have been the same and, unfortunately, it’s the results part that actually matters.
by JacinB on Sep 30, 2009 11:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i see what you're saying
And this is the argument that everyone makes. As soon as someone says we are better than last year everyone gets all negative and acts like they are saying we are a good team. I’m not.
We suck right now. Fucking duh. Figured you guys would be used to it because guess what. We’ve sucked for a while. But I think our team is better going into game four than we were last year.
The point is that I’m starting to see a light at the end of the tunnel. I don’t know if Haley is the right guy, I don’t know if Pioli is making the right moves, but they are trying and they both seem like sucessful people.
Maybe I just like being hopeful for every game, getting pissed but then looking at the good things I see about the team
Predictions.
1. Tank Tyler will end up surprising everyone and be the anchor of our line.
"...Said he couldn't go on the American way"
by Jux on Sep 30, 2009 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was being hopeful, too.
Right up until we failed to show up in Philly.
Before that, I saw a team that didn’t walk on the field and not play because they knew they were going to lose. That’s what we did last year. We got down against Carolina and Tennessee and Buffalo and just quit. This year, we hadn’t done that. We’d played hard right up to the final seconds ticking off of the clock.
That is, until Philly.
Now it just looks like the same steaming pile of crap we had last year, with a few new faces thrown in here and there to make us think it ain’t.
by JacinB on Sep 30, 2009 11:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
at this point we are just filling gaps right now we have alot of holes in the ship
and these moves are just to keep us a float if anything im not expecting any hall of fame careers out of who they are picking up but at the same time if they can keep us someone what competitive im all for it . im already looking at the upcoming draft prospects and we need to go oline i can tell you that .
FOUR F'S FIND UM FEEL UM FUGUM FORGET UM.
by sexassassin on Sep 30, 2009 11:14 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Someone else earlier mentioned the general idea...
You tweak the bottom half of your lineup hoping you’ll get lucky and find a real player who’s going to prove something or overachieve.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Sep 30, 2009 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think there's something else going on
the player’s we’ve picked don’t seem to be there to address any real need and it makes less sense to carry for TEs than to carry 4 QBs. I can’t imagine Pioli’s doing this for the hell of it. It makes me wonder if he’s not working a trade and is putting in some guys as placeholders until he makes a move. Since he brought in a TE, LB, and CB it makes me wonder if he’s working a deal that may include a top player in one or more of those positions. Could he be working to trade Cottam/Ryan and Leggett/Washington for a starting OL who’s in the final year or two of his contract? Heck, maybe he’s looking at trading one of these guys along with LJ when Kolby is activated, or even DJ. It just seems like there must be something else in the works. If not, I’d love to have him explain what’s happening.
by Big Chief on Sep 30, 2009 11:15 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
OOOOHHHHHHHH
That would be fun!!!!!
by iachiefsfan on Sep 30, 2009 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
its either oline or line backer .
THen we trade larry trade derick johnson . and if waters wants to be traded trade him. gets some picks or some good trades im all for that.
FOUR F'S FIND UM FEEL UM FUGUM FORGET UM.
by sexassassin on Sep 30, 2009 11:17 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Not Waters
unless we could get two OL right now. Otherwise we’d be taking away the only reliable player in an already hurting unit.
by Big Chief on Sep 30, 2009 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No Way!!
Larry Johnson and Derrick Johnson should stay. They have a lot of talent. LJ just has no line to run behind and DJ needs more playing time.
"Hell yes I love my truck, but I want you to know, honey I love your love the most" - Eric Church
by Matt_Grbac on Sep 30, 2009 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
matt grbac
larry is a dime a dozen its not like the guy is blowing up the stats right now hes at the end i do agree if we had a line he would make sense to keep but at this point we have way to many holes to fill and we can get some good production from charles and others. and dj well his play speaks for it self one day hes on the next week he off . he is so up and down i can pass on him and get two more players with better ablility.
FOUR F'S FIND UM FEEL UM FUGUM FORGET UM.
by sexassassin on Sep 30, 2009 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Getting fed up with Pats and Cardinals rejects. Maybe Pioli needs to look a little harder. I know its a little late. But come on.
by old chiefs fan on Sep 30, 2009 11:48 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You're right.
He's probably not looking hard, I mean why would he?
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Sep 30, 2009 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He has better things to do....
Like play golf and run his mafia.
"Hell yes I love my truck, but I want you to know, honey I love your love the most" - Eric Church
by Matt_Grbac on Sep 30, 2009 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe Pats and Cards rejects are the only ones willing to come to the Chiefs?
Why would some guy that has many years of service, come to the Chiefs at this point in the season unless you are going to blow him out of the water with an over priced offer?
by vincent2668 on Sep 30, 2009 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The main point is their not picking up players that have a choice.
There are bringing in players that have been sitting by the phone hoping someone calls. Well they do have a choice I guess, play for the chiefs or sit at home because nobody else is calling them.
Cassel has something to prove 3TD's against Eagles
by bringbacktheglory on Sep 30, 2009 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And my point is...
Isn’t the only players available to bring in, the ones that are sitting by the phone? You guys act like there are studs sitting out there and the Chiefs are just choosing to bring in differnet players. We may have offered deals to guys like Harrison and Runyen, that may have been rejected? Nobody knows.
by vincent2668 on Oct 1, 2009 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok so I guess you think the Chiefs suck so bad
that players would rather sit at home and get nothing than play for the Chiefs.
Chiefs set an NFL most roster changes in 1 season.
by bringbacktheglory on Oct 1, 2009 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
another theory
Maybe these guys won’t even be on the team a week from now…
They could just be filling out the roster for the week of practice, then they will be cut when Tauscher signs his deal, or when a bigger move is finalized…
just a thought
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
by stagdsp on Sep 30, 2009 12:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Maybe.
But they kinda need a LB now that Beisel is gone and and CB to replace CocaCola.
"Hell yes I love my truck, but I want you to know, honey I love your love the most" - Eric Church
by Matt_Grbac on Sep 30, 2009 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
CocaCola +1
Don't Fuccop Succop
by chicks_love_chiefs on Sep 30, 2009 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We should go sign one of those young
pro-bowl players that is sitting out there, right?
by vincent2668 on Sep 30, 2009 2:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think you forgot the sarcasm font
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Sep 30, 2009 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
sweet jesus
I really pissed someone off somehow. Had to sit around watching three years of this clown on the ND squad, was bad enough.
by ExtraMetal on Sep 30, 2009 2:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
What about these guys
Kory Lichtensteiger©- Min
Derrick Burgess (DE)- Ne
I dont know much about either of them but since we are signing meaningless players,why not two that might help that arent broken down or ready for the old folks home.
What do you think? Anybody?
by Bestofthewest on Sep 30, 2009 3:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Derrick Burgess is not a FA
a LB with the same last name is…
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
by stagdsp on Sep 30, 2009 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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