Chiefs GM Pioli Continues Trading with Familiar Partners

by Joel Thorman on Sep 29, 2009 4:08 PM CDT in 2009 Kansas City Chiefs Campaign

It's been noted around here time and time again that Kansas City Chiefs GM Scott Pioli likes to deal with folks with whom he's familiar. Free agents signed off the street have many times come from the New England Patriots, Pioli's former home. There's nothing necessarily wrong with this because it's natural to deal with the known rather than the unknown.

So far, the Chiefs GM has only traded with familiar partners.

New England Patriots (Bill Belichick)

Chiefs trade for Matt Cassel and Mike Vrabel (give up 2009 2nd round pick)

Miami Dolphins (Bill Parcells)

Chiefs trade for Jake O'Connell in NFL draft (give up 2010 7th round pick)
Chiefs trade for Ikechuku Ndukwe and Andy Alleman (give up undisclosed 2010 draft pick)
Chiefs trade Tyler Thigpen (receive undisclosed 2010 draft pick)

Atlanta Falcons (Thomas Dimitroff)

Chiefs trade Tony Gonzalez (receive 2010 2nd round pick)

We talk a lot about Pioli sticking with players with which he's familiar. And, taking a look at the trades the Chiefs have made since he's been around, that's pretty accurate.

Two of the trades appear to be well done (Gonzalez, Cassel/Vrabel and Thigpen) while the others we won't understand the full scope for a few years.

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mortgaging the present for the future?

by butchcassidy on Sep 29, 2009 4:11 PM CDT reply actions

considering our present situation, im down with that

by SDChief on Sep 29, 2009 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions

Thigpen was neither present nor future

So… it’s a win win

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season

by stagdsp on Sep 29, 2009 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions

It is starting to look like we might have to consider more of this.

The problem is that we really don’t have a lot of “present” that anyone wants.

by saskwatch on Sep 29, 2009 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions

Since both of them are undisclosed

Could it be safe to say that perhaps the two trades will cancel out? Or we get a pick one round higher than the one we gave up for induekeway?

by jk86 on Sep 29, 2009 4:14 PM CDT reply actions

I have a bad feeling

that all that happened was we swapped 6th rounders in which case we lose. Maybe only by 5-10 selections but If we received anything less than a 5th I would be a little disappointed.

Knowing parcels though we got a 6th

by Bashman on Sep 29, 2009 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions

When exactly does the actual trade conditions have to be announced.

Post season or just pre-draft?

We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09
And Succop will be the Key in two of them.
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram

by Steve_Chiefs on Sep 29, 2009 4:16 PM CDT reply actions

Maybe its a conditional in both cases just to see how the players play?

by jk86 on Sep 29, 2009 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions

Pre Draft

I think before trade venues open again so teams know what ammunition they have

Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.

by 808NaNz808 on Sep 29, 2009 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions

Nothing to do with Tyler but, I keep reading here about our two second round picks

Didnt we lose the original to the Patriots and get one back from the Falcons? If so where is this second one coming from?

Winning begins with Attitude - 2009 Chiefs 12-4

by Lanier63 on Sep 29, 2009 4:39 PM CDT reply actions

we traded the most RECENT 2nd rounder for cassel and vrabel

and we got the 2010 2nd rounder from ATL

by Bashman on Sep 29, 2009 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions

Our own 2nd round pick in 2010

And the Falcons second round pick in 2010.

The second rounder we sent to the Patriots was for the 2009 draft.

Arrowhead Pride

by Joel Thorman on Sep 29, 2009 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions

oopps

my ailzheimers is active again

Winning begins with Attitude - 2009 Chiefs 12-4

by Lanier63 on Sep 29, 2009 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions

So if I had to guess......

I would say right now we look like this:

1st rounder (KC)
2nd rounder (KC)
2nd rounder (ATL)
3rd rounder (KC)
4th rounder (KC)
5th rounder (KC)
6th rounder (MIA)

Assuming we got a 6th for Thiggy and traded our 6th for Ike and Andy and traded our 7th to whoever for Jake

by Bashman on Sep 29, 2009 4:40 PM CDT reply actions

by Steve_Chiefs on Sep 29, 2009 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions

good luck thigpen

Wish thiggy luck in miami, hope he gets the starting roll this season now that Chad is injured. and i also hope he kicks butt and makes people regret trading him away.

Proud Supporter of Tyler Thigpen.

by nfamous209 on Sep 29, 2009 6:52 PM CDT reply actions