Chiefs GM Pioli Continues Trading with Familiar Partners
by Joel Thorman on Sep 29, 2009 4:08 PM CDT
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It's been noted around here time and time again that Kansas City Chiefs GM Scott Pioli likes to deal with folks with whom he's familiar. Free agents signed off the street have many times come from the New England Patriots, Pioli's former home. There's nothing necessarily wrong with this because it's natural to deal with the known rather than the unknown.
So far, the Chiefs GM has only traded with familiar partners.
New England Patriots (Bill Belichick)
- Chiefs trade for Matt Cassel and Mike Vrabel (give up 2009 2nd round pick)
Miami Dolphins (Bill Parcells)
- Chiefs trade for Jake O'Connell in NFL draft (give up 2010 7th round pick)
- Chiefs trade for Ikechuku Ndukwe and Andy Alleman (give up undisclosed 2010 draft pick)
- Chiefs trade Tyler Thigpen (receive undisclosed 2010 draft pick)
Atlanta Falcons (Thomas Dimitroff)
- Chiefs trade Tony Gonzalez (receive 2010 2nd round pick)
We talk a lot about Pioli sticking with players with which he's familiar. And, taking a look at the trades the Chiefs have made since he's been around, that's pretty accurate.
Two of the trades appear to be well done (Gonzalez, Cassel/Vrabel and Thigpen) while the others we won't understand the full scope for a few years.
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mortgaging the present for the future?
by butchcassidy on Sep 29, 2009 4:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Thigpen was neither present nor future
So… it’s a win win
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
by stagdsp on Sep 29, 2009 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It is starting to look like we might have to consider more of this.
The problem is that we really don’t have a lot of “present” that anyone wants.
by saskwatch on Sep 29, 2009 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Since both of them are undisclosed
Could it be safe to say that perhaps the two trades will cancel out? Or we get a pick one round higher than the one we gave up for induekeway?
by jk86 on Sep 29, 2009 4:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I have a bad feeling
that all that happened was we swapped 6th rounders in which case we lose. Maybe only by 5-10 selections but If we received anything less than a 5th I would be a little disappointed.
Knowing parcels though we got a 6th
by Bashman on Sep 29, 2009 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
When exactly does the actual trade conditions have to be announced.
Post season or just pre-draft?
We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09
And Succop will be the Key in two of them.
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram
by Steve_Chiefs on Sep 29, 2009 4:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Pre Draft
I think before trade venues open again so teams know what ammunition they have
Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.
by 808NaNz808 on Sep 29, 2009 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nothing to do with Tyler but, I keep reading here about our two second round picks
Didnt we lose the original to the Patriots and get one back from the Falcons? If so where is this second one coming from?
Winning begins with Attitude - 2009 Chiefs 12-4
by Lanier63 on Sep 29, 2009 4:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
we traded the most RECENT 2nd rounder for cassel and vrabel
and we got the 2010 2nd rounder from ATL
by Bashman on Sep 29, 2009 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Our own 2nd round pick in 2010
And the Falcons second round pick in 2010.
The second rounder we sent to the Patriots was for the 2009 draft.
by Joel Thorman on Sep 29, 2009 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So if I had to guess......
I would say right now we look like this:
1st rounder (KC)
2nd rounder (KC)
2nd rounder (ATL)
3rd rounder (KC)
4th rounder (KC)
5th rounder (KC)
6th rounder (MIA)
Assuming we got a 6th for Thiggy and traded our 6th for Ike and Andy and traded our 7th to whoever for Jake
by Bashman on Sep 29, 2009 4:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Ah don't forget we might be in position for the Mr. Irrelevent pick in 2010
We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09
And Succop will be the Key in two of them.
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram
by Steve_Chiefs on Sep 29, 2009 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ugh
dont get me started on compensatory picks….I could never figure out how that works and ive been watching football for 8 years
by Bashman on Sep 29, 2009 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well it would be safe to say we didn't lose anyone that we would get
a comp pick for except any leftovers at the end of the draft :)
We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09
And Succop will be the Key in two of them.
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram
by Steve_Chiefs on Sep 29, 2009 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
good luck thigpen
Wish thiggy luck in miami, hope he gets the starting roll this season now that Chad is injured. and i also hope he kicks butt and makes people regret trading him away.
Proud Supporter of Tyler Thigpen.
by nfamous209 on Sep 29, 2009 6:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
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