Chiefs Trade Tyler Thigpen to the Dolphins
by Joel Thorman on Sep 29, 2009 1:04 PM CDT
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PrintThe Kansas City Chiefs have announced they have traded QB Tyler Thigpen to the Miami Dolphins for an undisclosed draft choice.
Josh Looney KCChiefs.com first reported the move on the Chiefs live call-in show.
This makes the second trade Chiefs GM Scott Pioli has done with his father-in-law Bill Parcells. The Chiefs acquired two offensive linemen (Andy Alleman and Ikechuku Ndukwe) from the Dolphins in preseason for an undisclosed draft choice.
Early speculation of a fifth rounder makes sense but that's complete speculation at this point.
The timing is right as well. Chris Mortensen of ESPN recently reported that Dolphins QB Chad Pennington was out for the season with a shoulder injury. The Dolphins have Chad Henne (starter) and Pat White (backup) on the roster.
This means that the Chiefs have an open roster spot possibly bringing credence to the speculation that Lance Long will be called up to the active roster.
Check out The Phinsider for what the Dolphins fans are saying about the trade.
Much more coming on this story that's just breaking....
(Thanks to johnnyo_99 for the link)
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5th rounder
That’s my guess, but possibly a 4th since the scrwed us on the Ndukwe deal, and because they are in need of a solid backup QB.
Don't Fuccop Succop
by chicks_love_chiefs on Sep 29, 2009 1:06 PM CDT reply actions
Watch now
as Tyler throws (and probably catches too) the winning TD at this years superbowl ala Lawrence Tynes a few years back.
Blame my wife!
Waiting until August!
Yeah
I really miss Tynes missing 20-30 yard field goals and making a 50+ yarder. Even the game where he played the hero against Green Bay for the Giants, he missed 2 field goals of 36 and 46 yards in the 4th quarter that would have iced the game before overtime.
That game was in brutal conditions
I’m not sure you blame him for that.
he was better than what we had, untill this year of course.
Cassel has something to prove 3TD's against Eagles
by bringbacktheglory on Sep 29, 2009 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Tynes
Tynes was always a horrible kicker for us. How many 30 yard fg has he missed? I’ve even seen him miss an extra point. Kicking a 32 yard FG to win the game hardly means we should have kept him on the roster. I would rather have John Carney out there kicking any day.
by groundedchevy on Sep 29, 2009 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Now we have a roster spot open.
Do we add some one or maybe Long gets called up?
Best of luck to Thiggy. Hopefully its conditional, and if Thiggy plays well maybe we get a higher pick.
Good luck Tyler
I became a big fan last year, you are going to tear it up in that offense.
RIP Bodhi - Not tragic to die doing what you love. You want the ultimate thrill, you gotta be willing to pay the ultimate price.
by craig in calgary on Sep 29, 2009 1:07 PM CDT reply actions
lol....
he has to see the field first….
3rd qb rule (cant go into the game unless its the 4th quarter)
Chiefs FTW
sure he can....
but then the 1 and 2 can’t come back in.
by chrisclark_dfw on Sep 29, 2009 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions
A good fit for him...
… and an opportunity to play that he’d likely not get in KC.
Even if there were injuries in KC, doubt he would have seen significant playing time.
I’m happy for Tyler and wish him the best.
TD
Good luck Thiggy!
Hope you can steal that starting spot out down there in Miami!
by tomahawk44 on Sep 29, 2009 1:08 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
now they have room for Long on the team.
Cassel has something to prove 3TD's against Eagles
by bringbacktheglory on Sep 29, 2009 1:10 PM CDT reply actions
Perfect team of Thiggy
He wasn’t much use to us anymore but I liked the kid a lot! I wish him the best.
D-Bowe, Mark Bradley, Bobby Engram and Turtle. Four Chiefs WRers. 4 Pro Bowlers.
perfect team FOR Thiggy
D-Bowe, Mark Bradley, Bobby Engram and Turtle. Four Chiefs WRers. 4 Pro Bowlers.
by Patrick Allen on Sep 29, 2009 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree
I can just see Thigpen after he got the call, doing the happy dance. He has to be very happy with this.
Cassel has something to prove 3TD's against Eagles
by bringbacktheglory on Sep 29, 2009 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions
We got a draft pick for the guy and you still say crap?.
That is more than what someone would offer for Brokie.
Cassel has something to prove 3TD's against Eagles
by bringbacktheglory on Sep 29, 2009 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm thinking Long
but I’m hoping for an O-lineman.
Good move getting a pick for someone we didn’t have use for anymore and agree with those who say he’s a perfect fit for the Fish.
id say
A 5th sounds right. If he does good possibly up to a 3rd, man I wish this would have happened before I called in and talked to looney earlier about the oline id have much rather talked about thiggy lol
by BiiG_C on Sep 29, 2009 1:14 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
sweet!
I’m happy with that move.
Can’t wait to see what else happens because of it
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
I guess that is why you hold 4qbs
Maybe Pioli knew he would get something down the road.
by DTforHOF on Sep 29, 2009 1:17 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
absolutely
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
Got to echo the sentiments...
Good Luck Tyler. Thanks for the great memories. The one bright spot of 2008 was you catching that touchdown pass from Bradley. Miami seems like a great fit!
Gotta see that one more time!
Negative Ghost Rider the pattern is full...
Has any more
ever been said about his having broken ribs other than from his agent? If he has (had) broken ribs would they be healed by now sufficiently to pass a physical or in cases like that is it just known & agreed upon beforehand?
Good question
I haven’t heard a word. I gotta think they’re healed or Miami wouldn’t have made the deal. If he’s not, they might wash him out during the physical.
I think that he may become a star in that offense Rich Gannon all over again.
The dolphins may be laughing all the way to the Super Bowl. In two years everyone is going to be pissed about this trade.
by Chief-blinders-on on Sep 29, 2009 1:19 PM CDT reply actions
Tyler will be fine
I agree—Gannon he is not…But who knows he might develop exponentially in the Miami sun …wouldn’t surprise me knowing our luck
So was Rich Gannon in the 2nd or 3rd year of his career
I’m not saying Thifs will develop into that kind of player, but some dang good QBs took a long time to mature into the role (Gannon, Green, Garcia, etc). I wish him luck and hope he turns into one heck of a player.
I hope it is long
because he has potential and id hate it if someone stole him.
Boy, I thought this was going to happen
when I saw that Pennington was out for the year. Chad Henne hasn’t convinced anyone yet. I don’t know who their 3rd QB is. But I figured Pioli has made it known that the Chiefs are willing to deal him. It was bound to happen. Good job by Pioli getting some value for a player.
Does anyone know if they have been listing White as the emergency QB?
or have they had him fully active? I haven’t watched much on Miami this year.
One big reason why this might be a great deal for KC is that Tyler has seemed to struggle with learning the offense. Don’t forget that he looked awful until Gailey switched the offense once it became clear he was stuck with Thigpen for the duration. He didn’t seem to do well picking up Gailey’s base offense, and struggled with Haley’s. We’ll see how he does in Miami.
White has been listed as the backup
So that they can use him in the Wildcat, while Henne was listed as the emergency QB.
Current Phinsider Feud Points: 23
Thigpens the better athlete
They wanted to keep the better arm
Negative Ghost Rider the pattern is full...
I'm sure everyone in the league called Skeletor
after seeing the performance of Jabba the Hut (oh wait that’s twitlock).
This is a good move...
Thigpen looked terrified in the cold. Get him somewhere warm.
"What?!?! I aint no Obama for the weed!"
-Turk McBride
I'll admit I wasn't too high on Thiggs this preseason, afterall he didn't look very good.
But in the right situation he can be affective. I mean this guy owns like ALL the Costal Carolina records… ;)
But seriously good luck Thiggs, and thank you for the 2008 season. It might not have been great, but Thiggy did give us a fighting chance most of the season.
Don't Fuccop Succop
by chicks_love_chiefs on Sep 29, 2009 1:26 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
+1 my sentiments, exactly
I was grateful for his work in 08, but I was never too hot on him. I hope he can succeed somewhere else (unless he’s playing the Chiefs).
by jbj8609 on Sep 29, 2009 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Great Trade!
Good luck Bones! Thanks for the memories. Now I have a reason to root for the phins…
"Every day is an evaluation and if you’re not out there how can we depend on you? If you’re out there and you don’t know what to do, how can we depend on you?" Accountability -- Haley-style...
well now that they've got McCartney (Thigpen) they're gonna need Lennon (Gailey) as well
or else they’re going to just end up with Wings if you know what I’m saying.
* sigh *
I really don’t feel like giving a mid-late 20th century pop-music history lesson here so just look it up.
It's Like When Your Wife Goes Three to Four Days
Without puttin out, lots of tension…
by Ryan in Nixa on Sep 29, 2009 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions
I Just copy/pasted your joke to my buddy at work
If that makes you feel better :)
by Ryan in Nixa on Sep 29, 2009 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions
90% sure that it's a conditional pick.
It’s rare that a QB is traded to a team with an injury at that position and there isn’t some scenario where they’re going to get a better pick if the QB starts and plays well the rest of the season for them.
thx...
for the excitement last year Thiggy…good luck in Miami!
This is a good fit for Tyler.
With the type of offense they run it should be a situation that he can be successful in.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
Tyler Thigpen for Ndukwe and Alleman
That’s basically what just happened. Wow. I’m so excited. Way to go Pioli. What a great move…………
I don't want no Yo-Yos
Thigpen for Ndukwe and Alleman
Is a good move. Don’t be so quick to throw those two out. My goodness Ndukwe might just end up our starting RG and Alleman our Center now that O’Callaghan is our RT.
by Ryan in Nixa on Sep 29, 2009 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions
They haven't impressed me thus far in the season.
Sure they’re better than McIntosh but who isn’t. They’re solid backups so I guess we traded a solid backup for two solid backups. Good I guess, but personally I felt Thigpen’s trade value was really high at the end of last season. I felt by Pioli holding onto him and exposing his weaknesses in preseason that trade value diminished.
I’ll hold final judgment till I see what we get.
I don't want no Yo-Yos
I'm Sure Any Team Worth Their Salt
Had plenty of scouting on Thigpen if they had a true interest and already knew his “weaknesses”. Meaning the pre-season didn’t help but don’t act like all the execs had the wool pulled over their eyes until a couple lousy pre-season games.
by Ryan in Nixa on Sep 29, 2009 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions
well when you bring in Haley and Cassel its clear theres not much room for Thigpen
Most teams knew at that point he was on his way out and would be gotten for much cheaper. Sure it would have been hard to deal Thigpen that fast, I’m just saying I wish we had traded him when his market value was at its peak
I don't want no Yo-Yos
I'm not sure how you jump to this conclusion...
just because both deals involve the word conditional? Do you know the conditions of both deals or what the max pick is for either? The Olineman deal could be a conditional 7th based on roster status at year end for all we know and the Thigpen deal could be a conditional pick for anything from a 3rd to a 7th depending on how its set up. You can’t jump to the conclusion though that this is Thigpen for Ndukwe/Alleman.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Sep 29, 2009 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Pioli just threw Parcells a "bone".....
/ puts down the microphone
// shows himself to the door
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.
SEXUAL CHOCOLATE!!!
The Good: Moved the ball some, stopped the run
The Bad: penalties and not getting a FG before halftime
The Ugly: losing to J. Russel who couldn't hit the broad side of a barn from five yards away
Tyler Thigpen becomes Bones
D-Bowe, Mark Bradley, Bobby Engram and Turtle. Four Chiefs WRers. 4 Pro Bowlers.
that pic is all kinds of wrong....lmaoo
by HeatherChiefsLvr on Sep 29, 2009 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions
you skeleton fucker
I’mma miss you, Bones.
I’mma miss you so much.
/pours one out for his homey.
http://hardwoodparoxysm.com
by Ridiculous Matt on Sep 29, 2009 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Freaking Hilarious!
Gotta love Bones’ sense of humor!
"Every day is an evaluation and if you’re not out there how can we depend on you? If you’re out there and you don’t know what to do, how can we depend on you?" Accountability -- Haley-style...
spiderman got his powers from getting bit from a radioactive spider, popeye had spinach…thiggy got his from molesting a skeleton.
im guessing pioli and hailey took away his skeleton during the preseason hence the poor play and the broken rib. they wouldnt allow him to turn into bones anymore.
by MountainManMike on Sep 29, 2009 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Phin Phan
RIP Bodhi - Not tragic to die doing what you love. You want the ultimate thrill, you gotta be willing to pay the ultimate price.
by craig in calgary on Sep 29, 2009 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Well I would have prefered to get Jake Long in return for Thigpen
You can’t aways get what you want.
RIP Bodhi - Not tragic to die doing what you love. You want the ultimate thrill, you gotta be willing to pay the ultimate price.
by craig in calgary on Sep 29, 2009 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions
No
thank god. Take him if you want. his only two pancakes of the year came on that one screen pass against you guys last year.
For justice we must go to Don Pioli
Depending on the compensation
Miami probably did a good thing here. He’s exciting as hell, that’s for sure. Give him several years to settle down and this guy could be the second coming of Rich Gannon. We have far too much urgency here in KC to wait for that to develop. Good Luck Tyler. Hope you don’t completely stick it up our asses one day! :)
Braccae illae virides cum subucula rosea et tunica Caledonia-quam elenganter concinnatur!
As I’ve said before, I actually think of Jeff Garcia. Not a whole lot of intimidating physical talent, but good leadership potential and just enough arm and accuracy to get things done on the field. Gannon had a mediocre arm, but he had physical ability as well.
by burntorangehorn on Sep 29, 2009 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Actually
Pioli received Orange Chicken, Beijing Beef and fried rice in the deal.
[img]http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0eTH2sm73rf3u/610x.jpg[/img]
Only problem I have with this trade...
is that it sends him to the team with, hands down, the biggest bunch of d-bag fans.
"What?!?! I aint no Obama for the weed!"
-Turk McBride
Raider Fan, Philly Fan, and Donkey Fan
Just got angry that you gave the title of “Biggest D-Bag” to the Phins.
by Ryan in Nixa on Sep 29, 2009 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Don't forget the most annoying fan of them all
RIP Bodhi - Not tragic to die doing what you love. You want the ultimate thrill, you gotta be willing to pay the ultimate price.
by craig in calgary on Sep 29, 2009 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions
I was thinking Wankees fans were much worse. Irish fans are very close.
by burntorangehorn on Sep 29, 2009 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Tri-Win
Thigpen gets one last real shot at glory.
Chiefs get a pick.
Chiefs keep Gutierrez as 3rd QB, which is a much better fit for this offense.
One last shot at glory?
What is he 25?
RIP Bodhi - Not tragic to die doing what you love. You want the ultimate thrill, you gotta be willing to pay the ultimate price.
by craig in calgary on Sep 29, 2009 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Easy, killer canuck
I was being melodramatic :)
Thigpen will never be a relevant player in the NFL.
[img]http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0eTH2sm73rf3u/610x.jpg[/img]
But he is a very good QB
For evidence see Oakland, Cleveland, Denver, St. Louis, Detroit, Washington, Jacksonville, I’m sure I could list 15 starters that Thiggy would be an upgrade over.
Negative Ghost Rider the pattern is full...
Wow Peterman700 saying something negative? No way!
Cassel has something to prove 3TD's against Eagles
by bringbacktheglory on Sep 29, 2009 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Croyle Can Play...When Healthy
It’s not like Croyle is “old” so giving up on a guy with a laser right arm is a little silly.
by Ryan in Nixa on Sep 29, 2009 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions
... and with a decent line, might stay healthy.
Who knows, with a line in front of him for the last few, Brodie might have developed into a franchise-level QB. I can’t imagine ANY QB who’s come into the league in the last few years developing into a star behind that line.
For what, a box of Miami knockoff cigars? Because that’s probably more than Croyle would bring in a trade.
by burntorangehorn on Sep 29, 2009 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions
and 52 players are slightly jealous he escaped...
by NJ Chiefs Fan on Sep 29, 2009 2:13 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
regardless of the pick, this was a good move
think about it this way… Thigpen was MN’s 7th round pick, the Chiefs stole him off of waivers when they tried to put him on the PS, ended up getting almost a full year of him starting at QB, and traded him for a draft pick.
So, low cost, plenty of benefit to the career of Thigpen as a Chief.
Good move.
Good luck to you, Tyler!
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
ill miss...
watching your athletiscism… even though it didnt get us anywhere.
Yeah, I AM a chiefs fan... SO WHAT?
Damn
Now we only have three shitty quarterbacks. j/k
yeah, and wasnt he a rookie last year????
Alot of upside compared to the fragile Croyle, and Cassell with a knee thing….Hope we got “value” for him so everyone will be happy. When was the last time “value” bought a superbowl?
new england gets "value" and superbowls all the time
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
McGinest...
Patten…
Samuel…
Law…
Milloy…
I dunno lots of guys…
by butchcassidy on Sep 29, 2009 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions
just a matter of time
before Thiggy got a season-ender, too. I’m betting Cassel doesn’t make it to the halfway point.
QBs aren’t injury-prone. The line in front of ’em is.
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