He’d be able to screwdrive threw a lot of those tackles at the line of scrimmage and pick up positive yardage. It also seems like LJ has lost a bit of his vision, as well. That, or more likely, his legs can’t seem to carry him to wherever his eyes are tellin em to go.

But, if he had a hole to run through we may not be having this conversation. So, gonna have to go with the OLine. But we still need a quicker, speeder feature back.

I honestly am not looking for water. I was looking for water by the end of last year.

We are so bad, that any win we put together will be a fluke. We will not win by skill, talent, strength, speed or intelligence.
It will be by luck or misfortune by the other team.
Honestly I could care less about a win.
I want a winning team. I want a team that gasp might win 2 or 3 in a row, not in a season.
And no, I dont have the answers. I dont know what it will take to get us there. There are enough people who seem content to think they know everything involved with this team that we’re paying to find the answers, and it appears they’d rather be yelling at someone or not signing someone than to figure it out.
I blame everyone in this situation but Clark Hunt. He made 2 moves that we were physicked about, I dont think he could have known they would have been misplaced as they were.
But when 2 of the more “genius” people at the position in management, can mismanage this situation this bad, I dont see how you can not expect better, from them and the players.
For all we hear about shrewd evaluators, how could they not have seen our O-line was this bad all offseason?
I am more disgusted now with the Chiefs than I was last year, and that is alot, at least we could blame it on Herm before, and we still can to an extent, but its a whole new crew, and same result.

 I would like to mark all the statements except Cassel, He has no time to look downfield because he running for his life every play.

..but we have really got to cut down the number of times we’re slow getting in play calls. Should never, ever, ever happen with a professional league. It’s happening several times a game. Let’s be honest – Haley is struggling with all of his duties. I think the lack of an offensive coordinator continues to be visible. Is that our number one problem? No, far from it. But… it’s something a team shouldn’t even have to think about.

I initially put us at 6-10 this year, but that was with an expectation that we would stop making critical mistakes. I don’t know that I can see any more than 4 wins at this point. There are two main problems:
1) The big, obvious one – the offensive line.
2) The defensive line has been below average, but shows some promise.

Doug Gottlieb is not a football expert by any stretch but he made a point going into week one which I thought was valid:
As an outsider, you can’t always tell which teams will be great in football, but you can tell which teams will be bad: if your offensive line can’t block anybody and your defensive line is easily blocked, you’re going to be bad.

One of the teams he singled out as an example was the Chiefs. I didn’t want to agree with him, but I’m afraid that I do.

last year and this year. last year second thigpen got the ball he had d-linemen and backers in his face. same w/ cassel and croyle. i still think cassel had a few chances to throw something good and didnt. also play calling sucked ass. honestly running the ball on 2nd and 26 when u have no offensive line to help with the run. i dont care if ur adrian peterson u aint doin crap with our offensive line.

yesterdays game was play calling as well as offensive line. mostly the line.

Our Offensive Line is plain out embarassing for any chiefs fan. Went from an all pro-bowl line to the worst line in the NFL. IM SHOCKED that we didnt address the line with FA, or in the Draft.. Everyone, even todd haley knew our line was Crap hmm.. lets see how many sacks we had against us last season.. And yet they still go out and waste picks on our D-Line which is because of our 3-4 Personel Switch. damn we have 4 first round picks now up front, and where has that gotten us? Absolutely nowhere at the moment. Jackson, Dorsey, Hali, and DJ and yet we get no pressure, so why draft D-linemen? they take 2-3 seasons to mold into a decent player anyways… Offensive linemen are for sure things pretty much 90 % of the time coming out of the first 2 rounds.. So im puzzled. this line needs a complete Overhaul, even get Rid of Brian Waters.. hes getting old, slow and banged up.. and his energy levels have declined dramatically, Everynight ill be dreaming of a Godly O-line FA signing or trade

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Yesterday’s game did much to highlight the poor line. Too many instances where no Eagle was touched. Haley needs to beging integrating the back-ups since they can’t do much worse than what we witnessed yesterday. There is nothing else the staff can do at this time unless they begin passing on traditional running downs and use misdirection plays to throw the defenses off a little. Playcalling is an awful lot of the problem as well. The line is bad, but the coaches have to try something to help them.

I don’t know if anyone else saw this but when Cassel had time to throw he was looking at the rush not at his receivers.

Yes the O-line stinks but with Philadelphia blitzing we should have been throwing behind the rush, when they’re bringing 8 guys someone is wide open. Three steps and throw, not five steps and freak out. Cassel is still in love with holding the ball too long.

Niswanger may stink as a center why hasn’t he taken Goff’s place at RG? I’m sure Alleman, could bring the same ineffectiveness at the center position and I’d rather have a young guy that sucks playing than an old guy that sucks. Open up the competition at RT.

Now our D line sucks………I saw Tank Tyler getting triple teamed, Dorsey doubled, Jackson started out getting doubled then released to one man and Hali couldn’t beat his tackle. Hali didn’t get it done at all in one on one against a pro-bowl left tackle. The other 3 guys were sucking up their blocks for the most part but Hali’s rush isn’t getting it done. The defensive line is sucking up blockers that’s their job, it’s the OLB’s job to make the sacks he’s not doing it. Our soft zone behind a four man rush got picked apart. I’ll almost guarantee that we take a NT in round 1 or round 2 next year and Edwards gets the axe.

We were throwing a four man rush on a lot of downs. With Tyler, Dorsey, and Jackson sucking up blocks why weren’t we blitzing more?

rounds one through 3 I feel should go NT, RT, OLB, and C, I don’t care which order. If Colin Brown worked out at RG in the offseason, maybe he’ll be our starting RG next year, Niswanger might make a nice guard, Richardson might. I expect a WR in rounds 1-3 though probably one of our second round picks.

Am I writing this team off already this season, no. At the skill positions KC has the talent to get it done. Baltimore and Philadelphia are both superbowl contenders and handed us our asses and we’re writing this team off already……

We found a way to lose to Oakland Will we do that in every winnable game, I doubt it. Cassel needs to quit watching tape on Warner and work on emulating him, DROP BACK AND THROW THE BALL, not drop back staring at the pass rush. If this line doesn’t improve we’re going to be depending on the short throws and our wr’s ability and athleticism to break tackles.

If Gonzo was here this year we might be 2-1 instead of 0-3. Who cares, this team is growing and being molded, once the scheme is tweaked to fit the players we’ll pull out a few W’s. We’re still 5 or 6 starters away from being a play off team, but those things take time.

has anyone seen the coverage he has our guys play? I mean, seriously!

Haley is being roasted today. “He quit.” I never got that from the game. I got this. “If I sell out on offense trying to get us back in it, Cassel’s going to get killed. I can’t throw the ball because he’ll get killed and it’ll get picked off. My only option is to run the ball and try and wear down the defense, because right now, we’re outmatched.”

This is exactly what I was thinking when watching the game…well watching it until they took it off and put the damned Jets on.

but I just cannot sit there any more on sundays and watch another loss. We have done it for years now, and it is not getting better. It is getting really hard to watch the games because I have very little hope left. I am always very optimistic, and the first to defend the chiefs to my friends, but I have seen very little to this point to make me think that better days are close by. I have loved these chiefs for decades now, and have seen bad teams before, but this, to me, is the worst. Maybe I am just extremely frustrated, just like most of you are, but I am finding it very hard to swallow this season so far. The little hope I have left still says, “there is always next week” but reality says it won’t be any different. Not trying to make anyone mad, just venting a little.

…and we discuss the game …amd then we get to the Chiefs. I’m tired of lying to him and lying to myself.

You stated what I have been thinking since last year. We HAVE to get our offensive line squared away first. Having a weak offense is much worse than having a weak defense or special teams. The dependencies are much greater. At least with a weak defense we could cover by out scoring our opponents with a high powered offense (2003 anyone?) , or special teams could crank off a kick return for a TD.

Everything cascades from how well or poorly the offensive line performs. We are spending too much time picking apart the skill positions as if they were the problems. They are the symptoms of the problem, not the cause of the problem. When the Qb has 3 seconds to drop, find a reciever and throw an accurate pass, or there are no holes to run though, of course they are going to look bad. So would Payton Manning and Adrian Peterson.

Yes, we can use upgrades at the skill positions, but they are not the root of the ineptitude we have seen.

Same for coaching. Haley has made mistakes in game calling and his ego needs to be reigned in, but give him the line Uncle Dick and Al Saunders had, and suddenly he is a genius.

Again, great job on the post.

It has recently been shown that pulling out is as effective as using a condom (and much more fun). That answer should be revised to say:

The line. If they were contraceptives, they’d be “oh shit I shouldn’t have drank so much last night, hope she Summer’s Eve’d it”

this seems pretty fox news-ish.

I hate potatoes because yada yada yada.

Poll
Potatoes suck.
Potatoes don’t suck.

You guys are better than this.

whe weren’t awesome cause we had priets.. we were awesome cause we had shields, waters, roaf, wigman(?)

 I have been calling this for a long time now.

The game starts and ends with the offensive line. Yes, I am biased, I played every position on the O line when I did play.

That doesn’t change the fact that without an oak solid O line, you have no offense.

 I admit, I will be the first to praise my boys on the O line. I am also the first to walk up and call them out when they don’t get it done. The guys we are continually tossing into this line just cannot cut it. This Line has been gutted from one of the best in the league to a juco scrimmage team.

 I only get frustrated when the Chiefs don’t do well. I take it personal when our own O line doesn’t step up and OWN that line.

Thanks for seeing things from my side of the ball.

Big Bear

Truth hurt?

So, if it’s a blind eyed hurrah for losing, and good hearted " we’ll get em next time" it’s a post, if it tells the truth about the pathetic form this team is continuing on, then it’s a rant.

Not all of life, or football games, is going to be sunshine and roses. got to take the good with the bad.

This teams overall performance is abysmal. There’s no sugar coating it.

Dos that mean I am abandoning my team? Oh heck no. it means that I am disgusted with their performance, or lack of it and i don’t want to see em go out like this. Lying to myself and others isn’t going to change that.

Look at tonights game for a great example.

The O line was pathetic. might as well have put the cheerleaders in uniform and put them on the line, they would have played better. Where was the blocking? What happened to the run? Where do we look to see who just flat out isn’t performing?

This sorry excuse of wussie O Line. That’s who.

Direct comment tot the KC O Line players:

Have you no self respect at all anymore? Where are your heads, certainly not in the game. It is a position of honor to walk onto that field and make sure the backs can do their job because you are taking care of yours.

They play as if they have no cojones left.

The worse part is, the players in the backfield that might have a chance at getting some points scored and doing their jobs can’t because our offensive line is only offensive to their own team.

if this post seems vitriolic, I guess it is. At the same time, I am not being dishonest either. and that is just sad.

Big Bear