Tracking the Chiefs Problem Areas: Week 3 - Truth Week
Throughout the NFL the third game of the season is known as "Truth Week". This is because typically by the third game of the season, teams have for the most part worked the kinks out of their schemes and have become the team they are going to be the rest of the season. It is also when teams begin to have enough game film on their opponenents to really begin breaking down their weaknesses and tendancies.
I think its quite clear that the Eagles were all over the weaknesses and tendancies of the Chiefs and equally clear that the Chiefs are nowhere near having the kinks worked out.
This week we will also move beyond tracking problem areas from last year as some of these have been addressed satisfactorally at this point (such as Ryan Succop appearing to be the answer to our kicking woes) and be looking at lingering problems from the 2009 season.
Before I get to the problem areas, I would like to address something that has been discussed throughout the Chiefs Kingdom:
Did Todd Haley give up trying to win this game at halftime?
The answer is yes. But in my opinion, this was not necessarily a bad thing.
During the postgame press conference, Jason Whitlock asked:
"You ran the ball alot in the second half (when the Chiefs were down 24-7)... was that a concern about pass protection? It seemed very conservative."
Haleys response was:
"I think if we are going to be the team that we want to be, we're going to have to be able to run the ball. Even when they have too many (defenders) up there. We're trying to win the game, but at the same time we're trying to establish an identity here.
"Three yards of rushing offense at halftime to me is unacceptable. It was not something I felt at the time I could let go by the wayside with our offense. Again we're trying to establish an identity around here.
"You can call it conservative if you want, but I think it had a purpose as far as myself and this team goes. And I'll leave it at that."
I believe that Todd Haley is beginning to discover that winning in the NFL is more difficult than he thought when he made his infamous "Twenty two guys off the street
When you're down by three scores and trying to get back in the game, you don't run the ball very much. You pass the majority of the time trying to push the ball down the field and save time on the clock. Yet in the 2nd half Haley called 13 rushing plays to only 4 passes.
Unlike Whitlock who slanderously accussed Haley of trying to get the game over with to avoid further embarrassment, I believe that Haley is beginning to understand a truth about coaching in the NFL: Winning is hard.
I think he is growing to regret his infamous "Twenty two guys off the street could win two games" comment to Brian Waters. Haley is coming to understand that you cannot will players to perform better just by yelling and screaming at them.
Haley DID give up on trying to beat the Eagles in the 2nd half. But he did it with a noble purpose. We find ourselves in week 3, Truth Week, and the Chiefs still have not established an identity on Offense. They still don't know who they are. Rather than doing what Herm Edwards did last year with Tyler Thigpen and the Arrowspread, abandoning all of his principles and what is best for th team long term for the sake of trying hopelessly to scratch out a win by any means possible, Haley decided to use it as an opportunity to forsake the small chance of winning that they would have had by becoming pass happy and work on the things that will make the team succesful in the future.
You may disagree with that decision. It's difficult to think that it was good for the moral of the players to know they were not "playing to win the game". Its questionable if this decision actually bore fruitage: Chiefs running backs only had 45 yards in the 2nd half and there were plenty of no gain rushes. But it was the decision Haley made and personally I believe that it is a sign of growth and humility on Haleys part as a rookie head coach to realize something had to be done for the long term good of the team.
Now on to the problem areas:
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- Penalties
- Poor offensive line play
- Unsettled QB situation
- Inability to run the ball effectively
- Poor pass coverage by linebackers
- Questionable Play Calling
Penalties - The penalty situation is really getting out of hand. Last week they had 9 penalties for 70 yards. This week they had 10 penalties for 90 yards. Worse than the actual yardage lost for the penalty were several good plays that were wiped out because of them. As Haley said during his postgame comments, a team having this many penalties points directly at coaching. Whatever Haley is preaching at practice isn't getting through. Time to try a different tactic.
Poor Offensive Line Play - The offensive line has been the primary culprit in the penalty area. Whether the holding penalties are out of desperation from being overmatched or simply being sloppy is difficult to tell. But it must stop. The Chiefs still have trouble protecting the QB in passing situations which eliminates the downfield passing game. At the same time against good defenses like the Ravens and Eagles, they are largely unable to open running lanes. Pioli seems to be focusing primarily on the Right Tackle position, trying several players out in preseason before trading for Ndukwe and claiming O'Callaghan off waivers. But Center and Right Guard need to be looked at as well.
Unsettled QB situation - Cassel is the starter. End of story. No controversies stirred up by the media is going to change that. But as long as Cassel struggles, that isn't going away. He has a tendency to hold on to the ball too long, which it is becoming evident is the real reason the Patriots led the NFL in sacks allowed last year. It appeared to me that along with the pourous offensive line letting blitzers through all day long, Haley was trying to give Cassel much shorter, quicker pass plays that he has been.
Inability to Run the Ball Effectively - I am very happy that Haley has recognized that this offense is going nowhere until they find a way to run the football. It is the basic building block of an NFL offense and with an offensive line as horrible as ours is, you simply cannot sit back and fling the ball all over the place. We'll go through all four QBs this year if they did that. I predict that we will be seeing less LJ in the coming weeks and much more of Charles and Savage, who are shiftier RBs that are able to make guys miss. I don't think that is an idictment of LJ, he simply isn't the kind of RB that can make 3 defenders miss before he even leaves the backfield and right now, thats what we need.
Poor pass coverage by the linebackers - This is going to be a problem all year I believe. Corey Mayes may have wowed us in preseason with big plays hitting the QB and stuffing runners, but his pass coverage skills are a liability. When the oppossing teams Tight Ends have a big day receiving, thats primarily on the linebackers. Todd Heap for the Ravens and Celek for the Eagles both had their way with the Chiefs intermediate pass coverage.
Questionable Play Calling - Are Haleys Head Coaching duties interfering with his Offensive Coordinator duties? We seem to be seeing quite a few Delay of Game penalties or timeouts called because of plays not getting to the QB in time. We also are seeing questionable play calls. Of course the big one last week was the play before the half where a pass was thrown to the flat and allowed time to run out before kicking a FG. This week there were numerous times the Chiefs were in 3rd and 1 situations and had empty back fields. Shouldn't they at least have the threat of being able to run for one yard by having a RB in the backfield?
I'm OK with running a draw or a screen on 3rd and long, its conservative but less likely to result in a turnover. But calling consecutive draws on 2nd and 3rd and 20? Thats going a little too far.
I have been impressed with the inventivness and design of some of Haleys plays, but to me it seems that he is distracted and not as in the flow as an Offensive Coordinator that had no other duties but to call plays would be.
Hopefully its just a matter of Haley still figuring out how to do everything at once. Even more hopefully, it will lead Haley to realizing that he can't do everything himself and allow his assistants to help him out more.
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Our #1 Draft Pick Last Year
Should have been an Offensive Tackle… I really wanted us to take one and now it looks like that was our biggest hole. I mean what the heck, we could have still taken McGee in the third round and been in a better place on offense with no real difference on defense.
You’re saying that three games into his career you can already tell that Jackson won’t be better than Magee?
he didnt say that at all
he said we coulda tooken magee in the third and had him starting, and had an olmen that can play, your purposlly twisting his words
by dougritchey on Sep 28, 2009 12:53 AM CDT up reply actions
That is correct...
We are not winning in the trenches on offense, and while I agree we are not much better there on defense. There was superior talent there for the OL relative to the DL. Even if Jackson is a solid talent, which I think he is, we have a bigger problem on the OL than the DL.
OL Left in the Draft at pick 3
Do you guys actually look back at the draft before saying these things “There was superior talent there for the OL relative to the DL. Even if Jackson is a solid talent, which I think he is, we have a bigger problem on the OL than the DL.”
Lets look at the guys taken in the rest of round 1, let alone being worthy of the 3rd pick!
Andre Smith- WOW What a fat piece of crap! Could be a RT on the Chiefs but for 3rd pick money?
Eugene Monroe- Got tore up by Freeney but that was to be expected… I could see this one but then where do you put Albert? LG? Waters to C? Albert is not a RT in the NFL…
Michael Oher- Guy has been pretty Solid for Bal… But then again you have to ask 3rd pick? Moving Albert again!
Eric Wood- He is starting at LG on a bad OL like the one KC puts on the field. He could have been our RG…
If we could of (and WE TRIED) traded down in round 1 I could see some of these guy but none of the OL other than Jason Smith was worth the 3rd pick pure and simple!
by flyin_squirl on Sep 28, 2009 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions
I was speaking of Monroe and Oher
Either of them could be starting at RT right now and then Ndookie could be at RG where he belongs. All of a sudden our OL is pretty stout!
I’m not “purpsolly” twisting anything. He said there would be “no real difference” on defense if we had Magee starting instead of Jackson. That is saying that there is “no real difference” between the two.
Yeah, read his comment. He CLEARLY implied that there would be no difference if we had Magee instead of Jackson. He might have not meant to do that, but it was clear.
And at this point there isn't... Just like he said...
I am not a Jackson hater, I like him quite a bit. But the better talent at that pick as still on the OL. Almost everyone said we stretched for Jackson, I don’t necessarily believe that, he has a future here with the Chiefs. BUT the OL was a much bigger problem area than the DL. We let a couple of DL go and they were immediately picked up by other teams… It is not a negative on Jackson, just a positive towards the OL we should have taken…
Pretty positive spin on things...
lets see how this team (FO) responds in week 4 against the Giants and their terrible down 4 or 8 I should say considering anyone that plays on the Giants DLine could start for us.
That being said
I also think we will have a new Defensive Coordinator next year…
Clancy Pendergast was renown on his last team for his undiciplined defenses. It looks like he has brought that here as well. With the number of top level picks we have on that side of the ball, we should be doing at least a little better there…
Maybe this was a mistake changing over to the 3-4 so soon… Like we didn’t know this was going to be tough anyway… Like it was said before. Maybe we need a full year of free angency and another draft to sort things out. But I can tell you, I don’t know how many seasons of this I will hold on to my season tickets for if this continues…
distinct possibility.
As bad as it sounds I would like to remove him completely from the team. Not because I think he is terrible, but I would like to get a relatively fresh start. Krumrie also has to go imo.
I Really Wanted Mike Nolan...
Now he is in Denver (where I live) and now I get to hear about how he has turned around this horrible Denver Defense and it is now a group of World Beaters…
Some how some way.........
Something please tell Rameo……. he is needed. now i know you can’t force someone to work. but man PLEASE!!!!!!
It's looking that way so far.
Switching to the 3-4 is notoriously difficult in the 1st year. I believe we have the depth at D-Line to succeed in the scheme. But even with another offseason under our belts, I don’t see how we can fill the holes that are going to open up in our linebacking corp. I don’t see Pendergast as being a really crucial part to the rebuilding effort. I wouldn’t be surprised to see him shown the door.
he may be gone this week
Haley came in to late to get the people he wanted and 2 out of 3 games with that many yards allowed is unacceptable
by idahochieffan on Sep 28, 2009 12:13 AM CDT up reply actions
I still think the secondary play
is a contributing factor to the poor LB pass coverage. The scheme has a weird problem that they haven’t figured out. That’s not to dismiss that our LB’s lack in coverage. Just saying that it looks to be a much larger systemic problem.
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Yep and Pendergast got it
neither of them were real strong candidates for the job IMO
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I agree with alot of this
Couple of things to note though. Cassels “ineffectiveness” is tied to the oline giving him time, the right passing plays being called for the right situations and the WR running their routes. You can hardly call Cassel ineffective because when even one of those things is on his side he is very good. Despite how crummy those three areas are he’s passing at 67% and I think we would all rather him eat those sacks then force a pass into the defense hands.
You can’t really judge the inability to run the ball yet. Week one we got stuffed by a top 3 run defense amongst other factors, week two we ran all over the Raiders and week three we were again running against a great defense who were lining up 8-9 guys in the box nearly every down because 1) They got embarrased because they didnt do that last week and 2) Because our #1 receiving threat was out of the game so man to man didnt seem so bad.
The pass coverage by the LBs is just scary and with the offensive line easily the biggest weakness on this team. I can’t name anyone other then Vrabel(who even he blew a coverage today to convert a third down) who is even average in pass coverage. Maybe Belcher is but thats asking alot of a kid who is a FA rookie, who deserves more time but will be eased in to it and will make mistakes simply because he is a learning FA rookie.
Good post though.
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by Hagbard Celine on Sep 28, 2009 12:42 AM CDT reply actions
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I believe that Todd Haley is beginning to discover that winning in the NFL is more difficult than he thought when he made his infamous "Twenty two guys off the street
Are you kidding me? Haley has been around football since he was a fetus…That statement is very inaccurate…Haley knows exactly what it takes…Just needs time
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There is no reason to think he is just now understanding it is hard to win in the NFL...
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its only week 3
And it can actually get worse. The giants will be the best all around team we have played. I’m no genius but I saw some glaring concerns. 1. No pass rush. Isn’t the 3-4 suppse to allow lb’s to get sacks? Where are they? 2. No pass protection. Why did we not spend ANY money on our o-line? We got Cassel, gave away his best target (tony g-remember him? seems like forever ago) and we don’t go get anyone to protect our franchise. Where is the genius in that? 3. Penalties! Undisciplined penalties. From vets too. I saw 3-4 occasions where we had a drive going and penalties by albert, waters, bradley, Ndookie killed momentum. 4. No deep ball. Defenses have figured out that we have no time to throw and that shortens the field for them on defense. We have so many needs. 5. Our coach. I did see quit on his face early oin this game. But can u blame him? That excuse of an offense has to be hard to watch as a HC/OC. Poor guy. I think we clean house next year too. The coaching staff. Bring in cowher or shanahan. Then bring a defens
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by Mr J on Sep 28, 2009 12:50 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
con't
…Then bring ina def corrdinator with experience and success. Give our team a real reason to listen to someone. It’s almost comical watching Haley’s inexperience out there. What can he possible say to his boys now to get them to listen? To get them to continue to go 100%? I’ve heard talks about Pioli and Haley saying that anyone on our team is tradable for the right price. Well by week 8, our bye week, many of our players will have time to go home and evaluate their 0-7 record. And they may decide to tune out during the second half of our schedule-which is much easier. Buit it may be too late. Man, I hate all this negativity but it is just too hard to bottle up.
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by Mr J on Sep 28, 2009 12:57 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
Good post, DJ, and TY - and Jason is right: if Haley's learning to be humble it's a good thing
but I can’t see how throwing in the towel equates to building a winning culture …
on to the talking points:
1. Penalties – lack of focus, unprepared – that’s coaching, pure and simple
2. Poor offensive line play – part coaching, part talent level
3. Unsettled QB situation – if Cassel is holding it too long either coach him or go with
Croyle, either way has to be better than what we’re seeing now
4. Inability to run the ball effectively – OL talent, coaching, overall scheme – and or all
are factors – they had the off-season to address the OL but failed to do so
5. Poor pass coverage by linebackers – see #4
6. Questionable Play Calling – that’s on Haley – Crawford posted on another thread
how ridiculous it was for Haley to dump Chan and expect the players to get with
an entirely new system, new terminology, etc, in just a couple of weeks (it can’t be
done) – seems like Pioli/Haley have tossed in the entire season, and if that’s the
case, that’s very troublesome
Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton!
Haley clearly ISN'T learning to be humble
Being humble means you have the flexibility to realize that when something doesn’t work, you try something else. It means that you’ve got enough self awareness to realize you’re not always right.
What I have seen from Haley thus far seems to demonstrate he’s too proud to change, too proud to accept an opposing viewpoint, too proud to admit defeat. If anything his behaviour suggests the opposite of humility.
A head coach’s primary goal, if not their only goal, should be to win football games. If you intentionally abandon that purpose to pursue your own agenda, to “establish your own identity”, you’re at best being negligent, at worst being an idiot.
The truly ironic part of Haley’s vision? The Arizona Cardinals were one of the worst running teams in the league last year (along with the Steelers) and the Chiefs one of the best. And that wasn’t based on yards per game, it was based on yards per carry.
So, if its suddenly more important to run the ball well than it is to win games, there’s a good chance that Haley will get his wish.
This isnt a humility contest...
McDaniels makes Haley look as humble as Jesus H Christ and he’s 3-0. He’s trying to establish an identity because without one the losing will just continue.
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by GenericBrand on Sep 28, 2009 3:22 AM CDT up reply actions
Nice post, just curious
“Haley tossed in the towel today” … I read these posts daily and it seems like a good amount of people here are too. You are not going to get a super bowl team, or a Miami/Atlanta turn around every time you start over or rebuild a team. I know be patient is the least liked term right now, but being a Chiefs fan, and a realist… you have to be… Its gonna be rough. They have completely changed schemes and A LOT of players at a lot of positions, you need time to mesh, and time to grow, get over it.
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Reasons...
Penalties
No pash rush
Poor LB coverage
O-Line not owning up
Those are the big concerns right now. Penalties can be worked out. The others, seems like the players need to earn their money and step up.
The Chiefs Problems?
They have no talent. This team is awful. This is arguably, and I haven’t seen TB or Cleveland play yet, but this has to be one of the worst collections of talent in professional sports. We signed old guys and rejects from the Patriots. We drafted guys that nobody suggested would come in and immediately make a difference. LJ is just an average back, Cassel can’t or won’t throw more than ten yards downfield because A) he has no time and B) it’s not as though anyone would get open if he did try to throw it… Brandon Albert and the rest of the o-line are terrible, the linebackers are old and slow, and this team has no DEs or safeties… The only real position on this team that is respectable are the corners, the kicker and the punter…
The Chiefs are a putrid example of an NFL team. And while I was high on Piloi when he first got here, after watching yesterday and now wondering what the hell happened with our draft, why didn’t we put people around our $60 million QB, I’m just unsure of what this team’s direction is and I’m beginning to worry that Pioli is no different than the rest of the Belichek disciples…
Once they start winning...
you’ll say…I was behind them the whole time! I knew they could do it! hahaha
Haley
Haley has the buffet syndrom. He sees everything and thinks he can eat it all himself, and finds out he cant, He has to get a qb coach and a OF cordinator. Piloi needs to step in and tell him this. Or start warming the phone up for alternatives. The Chiefs just are not showing any improvement at all.

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