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Around SBN: The Ten Worst Swings Of The 2011 Season

After watching him for two weeks, I’m worried about his safety. He’s liable to snap one time too often at the wrong player and have that player go all Latrell Sprewell on him. It’s one thing to coach with passion; it’s another to lose your composure.

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People act like he's a constant tyrant on the sidelines

The only times I’ve seen him blow his top is after a player makes a dumb decision on the field.

by jmcgoblue on Sep 23, 2009 5:32 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

I think this guy said alot of the same things I tried to say,

but he said it better, because he’s a professional writer…

by callmesir on Sep 23, 2009 5:32 PM CDT reply actions  

Another sensitive sally....

Don't blame me, I voted for content of character.

by paratrooper on Sep 23, 2009 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

What was your mos?

Don't blame me, I voted for content of character.

by paratrooper on Sep 23, 2009 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yea i was picking up on that. :)

Don't blame me, I voted for content of character.

by paratrooper on Sep 23, 2009 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

I haven't really said anything about hating pioli

But, yet again, people take the liberty of putting words into my mouth… and I don’t hate haley. I just don’t think his style will be successful, and there’s not point in arguing about it because the only thing that will determine who is right and who is wrong will be wins and losses

by callmesir on Sep 23, 2009 11:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

well

What we do have is the past.NE has how many rings?

Len Dawson:

"Lamar Hunt had a dream and, the thing is, we had dreams, too. Just imagine the number of people that he has touched because he said, 'I'm going after this dream."'

by smokin iowa chief on Sep 23, 2009 11:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

I like how you talk yourself up about being the only person

on this board to have ever led men into combat. If you have ever seen combat you would know its loud, chaotic, and can be confusing as hell. Then you go on to bitch about how Haley needs to stay calm its managment 101 crap. You say there is no room for this kind of behaivor in any work enviroment.

Let me tell you, when your adrenaline is pumping and the bullets are flying ( or footballs in Haley’s case) you will be fired up. Cussing, yelling, and generally getting in the face of your soldiers ( players) is acceptable in the heat of the battle (game). Now if your soldiers are doing what is expected of them with out being told then there is no reason to yell at them. But if they are fucking up they could end up getting thier buddies killed (losing the game). In circumstances such as these your politically correct kill them with kindness approach will probably not net you the desired results.

Don't blame me, I voted for content of character.

by paratrooper on Sep 25, 2009 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

I believe a team takes on the personality of its head coach — good, bad, calm or nervous, serious or indifferent. The manner in which the head coach conducts business is the way the players will conduct their own business with each other. Professional football is not high school. Players are adults and should be treated in a respectful manner – this was part of his article too and if haley did things this way he would just be slappin guys on the hand when ever they mess up screw that these are grown men who have played this game long enough they know its a mean game ….. like people sayin the army dont take it personal.

by redmedicone on Sep 23, 2009 5:35 PM CDT reply actions  

And that's why

all these professionals were in just as good a physical shape this year as last year. They know they play better when they’re in shape, so that’s why Haley didn’t need to make it a priority. That’s why everyone is at the same playing weight as last year.

This crap is pathetic. People respond to expectations, even professionals. And Haley is calm compared to coaches like Cowher. I’m tire of this garbage. I’m still not sure if Haley is going to be a great coach or not, but I’m hopeful and I’m not going to make up crap to put him down.

by Big Chief on Sep 23, 2009 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

AM NOT #@%$#*%&!!!!!!!!!!




Air Cassel - approved for takeoff

by kabrink on Sep 23, 2009 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Aaaahhhh...

I miss Cowher. Dude always got the most from his players. And never took any shit. There’s a reason he was in charge.

Penn State to Kansas City...Always a winning combination.

by YNinja on Sep 23, 2009 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think

Haley is completely IN control actually. He knows what he’s doing. He’s building a core of tough, do it the right way players. He’s building a group of guys he can’t lose. You watch. You’ll see his attitude completely change in the next year or so. He’s building a base of a team to build on. A base of guys that do it so well that when new guys come in they know “This is the way we do it here.”

by KCMizzou on Sep 23, 2009 5:37 PM CDT reply actions  

Ha.

I know doubt understand that but remember how many guys were on this team last year and aren’t on any teams this year. If we didn’t do something drastic and soon, it may have been a long time since we won a game, let alone become a respectable team. When one of your “star” players on defense gets cut before the season and doesn’t get signed, you have to realize we were in worse shape than we thought.

by KCMizzou on Sep 23, 2009 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Remember how many guys were on this team last that aren't on any team this year.

Toby is in HR, which technically means he works for corporate, so he's really not a part of our family. Also, he's divorced, so he's really not a part of his family.

by Rev. Slappy on Sep 23, 2009 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's gonna happen, with change of scheme on O and D.

No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.

by hmills110 on Sep 23, 2009 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nonetheless...

they didn’t get picked up in schemes they would have fit into.

by I_Bleed_Red. on Sep 23, 2009 11:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Mostly, they did.

That’s a big part of why all the new faces, but also part of why certain players stayed.

No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.

by hmills110 on Sep 24, 2009 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's STILL been a long time since we won a game

People act like just because Haley and Pioli are here that we are automatically a million times better.

Thats not the case folks. We’re as bad or worse than we were last year.

People keep talking about all the guys not on the roster anymore. Well of course not. Has everyone forgotten the kind of garbage they were having to put on the roster because there was no talent left over from the Vermeil regime? Once those veterans retired, there was NO ONE on this roster left over to play.

At least Haley has some building blocks left over from the Herm years. Who did Herm have?

by ChiefDJ on Sep 23, 2009 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Gonzalez, Allen, Waters, LJ, ...

No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.

by hmills110 on Sep 23, 2009 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

He had...

shields for his first season. Herm by far inherited a better football team than Haley. Don’t forget about Jared Allen.

by I_Bleed_Red. on Sep 23, 2009 11:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

The team was already disintegrating when Harm came along, imo.

I think that was part of Vermeil’s decision to move on. Harm got the 10-6 season Vermeil prob’ly would’ve gotten, and an early playoff exit, on a team that was on its way down. They’d made their push and already fallen short, imo.

No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.

by hmills110 on Sep 24, 2009 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Peterson was struggling to rebuild.

But he probably would’ve done an OK job building a competitive roster that would play .500 ball, and Herm could’ve coached ’em up to play .500 ball. Get our hopes up in a 10-6 or 11-5 season, with a typically rapid exit from the playoffs.

No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.

by hmills110 on Sep 23, 2009 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Really?

Herm would have coached them “up”? Herm never coached any team “up”. Not one. He took over a Parcells team with the Jets that was playoff ready, got them to the playoffs as expected and then promptly ran that team into the ground. He took a playoff ready team in KC and promptly ran them downhill.

by Ryan in Nixa on Sep 24, 2009 9:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Herm had..

veterans from a consistent contender to build around… Haley got handed the remnants of the 3rd worst team in the league with a whole city of red saying “please fix this… OK?”

by JoeMacOfKC on Sep 24, 2009 8:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

i will wait all year

if that is what it takes to make our Chiefs a better football team. I dont live in KC, i watch the Chiefs on Directv and get jabbed by my co-workers all the time about them, but i will wait however long it takes to keep saving my money for prime superbowl tickets when they get there cause i know they will!!!

by jrcnc on Sep 23, 2009 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

In the heat of 'battle,'

the best field commanders are usually foul, curt, and downright mean. If I’m Wellington, I want somebody like Haley at sergeant or captain of rifles skirmishing in front of my massed muskets and artillery. And ‘the men’ want somebody tough, like that, 9 times out of 10, but he DOES need to tuck WIN 1 under his belt. This is the toughest part of the grind. The trick is that the men know that the crusty bastard respects them, at heart, but has tough decisions to make.

No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.

by hmills110 on Sep 23, 2009 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Haley would be a great NCO

Yells when you fuck up but praises you when you do well. That’s all we ask for in life. Positive and negative re-inforcement.

Penn State to Kansas City...Always a winning combination.

by YNinja on Sep 23, 2009 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly

Ive been in combat. Ive put bullets down range and recieved more than a mans fair shair of incoming fire. Let me tell you, that its not a calm place. When your adrenline is pumping you arent asking please and saying thank you. More F bombs than you could imagine.

Don't blame me, I voted for content of character.

by paratrooper on Sep 23, 2009 10:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

NCOs should be in charge of everything

Cause they’re the only people who get shit done!!

Penn State to Kansas City...Always a winning combination.

by YNinja on Sep 24, 2009 6:36 AM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

I may have been dumb enough

To enter/start the whole haley thing but I’m not dumb enough to play with this… ha.. stay safe man. Hopefully if you’r an NCO you help bring your soldiers back with you.

by callmesir on Sep 24, 2009 6:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

Gotta REC that.

As an NCO (albeit a Navy one), I’ve gotta support anybody with that outlook.

by Archyrr on Sep 24, 2009 7:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

Rec

Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying

by Steve_Chiefs on Sep 24, 2009 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

Michael Lombardi is a complete idiot.

He writes: “I often compare the NFL to chess.” Oh yeah, the NFL is exactly like chess. Except in chess 300+ pound guys aren’t trying to hit you as hard as they can and injure you if possible. I don’t see many elderly men in parks playing games of tackle football.

Has this guy every played football before? I hate these pencil necks (to be fair Lombardi looks morbidly obese) in the sports media who have never competed at anything a day in their lives complain about what coaches and athletes do.

Yeah, football is exactly like chess. That’s the stupidest comment I’ve read in a very long time.

Toby is in HR, which technically means he works for corporate, so he's really not a part of our family. Also, he's divorced, so he's really not a part of his family.

by Rev. Slappy on Sep 23, 2009 6:06 PM CDT reply actions  

Why doesn't that line of reasoning

Apply to Todd Haley. You’d never know it from watching him belittle players on the sidelines, but he never played football. Haley was a golfer. A golfer who never quite “made it.”

Look, I support Haley. But to say that someone who never played football at a high level can’t understand the game is—especially in a conversation about Todd Haley—kind of silly on its face.

by 3rd Coast Chief on Sep 23, 2009 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Isn't amazing how many athletes want to be "golfers"

DT loved golf, he just played football when he wasn’t playing Golf

Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying

by Steve_Chiefs on Sep 23, 2009 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Way ta turn THAT one around on 'em, Steve!

That’s one for callmesir.

No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.

by hmills110 on Sep 23, 2009 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know what your getting so excited about...

Not sure exactly what you think that statement proves, Just because athletes like golf doesn’ t mean being a college golfer qualifies you to be an NFL coach….

by callmesir on Sep 23, 2009 11:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wish

I was golfing RIGHT NOW.

by KCMizzou on Sep 23, 2009 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

i wish

i was better at golf LOL

by BIG_CHIEF18 on Sep 23, 2009 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Golf is still a competitive sport. Chess isn't.

I’d much rather have to fight Bobby Fisher than Tiger Woods.

Toby is in HR, which technically means he works for corporate, so he's really not a part of our family. Also, he's divorced, so he's really not a part of his family.

by Rev. Slappy on Sep 24, 2009 1:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

Tiger woods is kind of an anomaly

Frankly, I’m kind of a big dude, and wouldn’t want to fight tiger woods…. he’s pretty cut up….. Either way, I think now, you’re just saying stuff to contradict anything I may say… but hey we all evidently like games…. I’d lump golf in with nascar, it’s a skill, but I’m not sure I’m ready to call it a sport anyway…. There are very few correlations between an indivudial sport in golf, and a team sport in football. (I mostly say that about golf, because I’ve been playing for about 6 years and still can’t break 90…. damned ball… get in your hole….)

by callmesir on Sep 24, 2009 1:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

I wasn't responding to your post. I was responding to 3rd Coast Chief.

If I was responding to your post it would be indented further to the right of yours.

Toby is in HR, which technically means he works for corporate, so he's really not a part of our family. Also, he's divorced, so he's really not a part of his family.

by Rev. Slappy on Sep 24, 2009 1:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Actually, chess IS a competitive sport.

Tournaments, winners, losers, the whole nine yards.

No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.

by hmills110 on Sep 24, 2009 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Snippet of bio.
Lombardi headed the Oakland Raiders’ and Cleveland Browns’ personnel departments and also worked with the San Francisco 49ers, Philadelphia Eagles and Denver Broncos.

Taken from National Football Post. He’s been around, some. Probably worked in the league before some of our members were born.

That being said, I often think he’s just taking a very superficial perspective, and mouthing things he’s heard others say, like we sometimes hear on AP, a day or two after an article comes out, and you hear people paraphrasing the article as if the words are their own, original thoughts. ;o)

Just remember, Mills. Pointing a finger at someone else means 3 fingers are pointed back atcha!

No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.

by hmills110 on Sep 23, 2009 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's why I point at people Drill Sergeant style.

With all four fingers. Takes that saying and throws it in the trash.

Penn State to Kansas City...Always a winning combination.

by YNinja on Sep 23, 2009 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

My 4-finger point is kind of icky, with ring and pinky fingers like Brian Baldinger's.

So I’ll never do the 4-finger point. But I get YOUR point.

No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.

by hmills110 on Sep 24, 2009 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree, Lombardi is an idiot. This isn't the first year that Haley has coached and

past players are coming to KC to play and several key Arizona guys have indicated that they would not mind playing for him. This is BS and Lombardi is just completely stupid. He probably grew up in a “never raise your voice” type environment/family and is a total wimp. “Lombardi, stay away from KC, we sure as hell don’t need your kind.”

by jcox31mc on Sep 23, 2009 6:13 PM CDT reply actions  

Could probably leave it at this
I have not been in the locker room, nor have I talked to Chief players.

Slow news week, I guess.

by KCScuba on Sep 23, 2009 6:13 PM CDT reply actions  

"Slow News Week"

was the title of the comment I came in here to make, Scuba.

No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.

by hmills110 on Sep 23, 2009 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Haha yeah...

That’s like that one lady who was on CNN bashing a video game and said “well, I’ve never played it or seen anything from it…but I’ve heard about it.” Really? So Lombardi has watched Haley blow up a few times and without asking any players or being in the locker room of any games…forms an opinion and posts it? That’s called “stupid” to me.

Penn State to Kansas City...Always a winning combination.

by YNinja on Sep 23, 2009 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's just playing off the negative nancy's elsewhere.

Lombardi leads the news wave by jumping on after the wave has passed.

No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.

by hmills110 on Sep 24, 2009 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Probably

I should have thrown a question mark into the mix at some point.

by 3rd Coast Chief on Sep 23, 2009 6:13 PM CDT reply actions  

Yeah. It was a bit tough to parse.

I think the reply to your post was a half-way attempt at disagreeing with what the respondent thought you were saying, and both of you were saying the same thing.

No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.

by hmills110 on Sep 23, 2009 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Is it just me

or didn’t Herm’s style really piss you off. He would just sit there with a blank stare on his face like he didn’t even know what the hell was going on (arguably he didn’t). But I like the way Haley’s coaching. Changes will come my friends. Just have a little patience.

Go Chiefs!!

by kcchiefskicka on Sep 23, 2009 6:36 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Lombardi?

yeah, me too

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season

by stagdsp on Sep 23, 2009 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

I hope he turns into the next Billicheck

And all you haters crawl back in your hole to regroup and find something else to bitch about! :)

Penn State to Kansas City...Always a winning combination.

by YNinja on Sep 23, 2009 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

What everyone keeps forgetting....

Is that I too would love for him to turn into the next belichick… it would mean we were winning super bowl….

Please disassociate criticism of Haley and hatred of the chiefs… At some point in time it became a requirement to love a flawed coach in order to love the chiefs… well, at least on this board, and that’s not okay.

by callmesir on Sep 23, 2009 11:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

For me

It is not a requirement that you love Haley. I hope it is also not a requirement for me to feel the same way about him that you do.

Chiefs go 9-7. LJ makes 1400 yards. DBowe makes 1200 yards. Defense #18.

by Zodeman on Sep 24, 2009 5:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

it's all good

I don’t need to convince anyone to see anything as right or wrong. It was never my intention to convert anyone… just making people aware…. aware of my opinion, in case they thought they were the only one not on board with Haley, I don’t think any less of someone because they like a football coach…

by callmesir on Sep 24, 2009 6:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

B.S.

what a waste of a news story, and a news day.

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season

by stagdsp on Sep 23, 2009 6:52 PM CDT reply actions  

thank you stag

lombardi doesn’t know ketchup from mustard – honestly, his resume is bullshit and i’ve watchd him on Inside the NFL and through NFL Network and some of the things he has said always puzzled me.

With that being said, I don’t know how many times this year we are going to have a week where all we do is bitch about a loss. But when we win, we’ll still bitch, because that’s what being a fan is all about. Listen, this team hit rock bottom the past few years and every one of you know that we’ve looked better in the last two games then we have in recent memory. (queue the picture of the dead horse from southpark) Rome wasn’t built in a day, there are 14 more games this season to see what Haley can do. With a tough schedule, we will get a very clear look at just that. How we play against great teams, how Haley reacts to losing those games or winning them for that matter. What are you supposed to do when you coach a team, not yell at your players? You kidding me? The guy doesn’t hold anything back, and for that, I envy him, very much. At the same time, you will never hear Haley not praise the good or tell his player he is doing his job the right way. He probably LOVES to do that, and you can see with last years run in Arizona him and Fitzgerald had a great relationship because he saw his coaching paid off and gave that team a much better chance to win games.

This team needs time to become great, and it will…but you can’t rag on a guy because he’s not afraid to show his emotions.

Anything Michael Lombardi

by CHIEFER on Sep 23, 2009 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

say's shouldnt be taken seriously

he’s a goddamn writer- what the hell does he know about an NFL locker room…and if he was so good at what he does, why the hell isn’t he still in a front office of a franchise? Because he obviously wasn’t cut out for it.

by CHIEFER on Sep 23, 2009 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

That basically shits on (almost) everyone opinion here...

We aren’t in the locker room therefore what the hell do we know? For the most part it’s true, but who cares. People should feel free to express their opinions without getting slammed.

Thats all AP is, specualtion by non experts. No reason to be so down on people, because they have an unpopular opinion.

Don't Fuccop Succop

by chicks_love_chiefs on Sep 23, 2009 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

But the newsies on t.v. have more "authority," and people are supposed to listen to 'em.

We have no pretensions here on AP, and we constantly rip each other when we’re off-base. The point here is that Lombardi’s authority (in terms of authoritative source) is pretty much discredited. Same as us, he ain’t in the lockerroom. Different from us, he isn’t chasing after every single morsel of news available.

He’s a paid expert. None of us are. And we’re pretty much coming to the conclusion as a group that he knows LESS than we do about the things that matter to us.

No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.

by hmills110 on Sep 24, 2009 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Haley was a mistake.

Insecure. Unstable. Inept. I never saw a person struck out on live tv before, will be interesting

by FrankPitts on Sep 23, 2009 6:54 PM CDT reply actions  

Too Bad

because I thought it was an attempt to recall Buddy Ryan popping Kevin Gilbride since God knows, all coached but Haley remain totally calm and in control at all times. Thank God Gunther never yelled.

by Big Chief on Sep 24, 2009 12:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

It's understandable

Everybody wants to believe in the new regime. The new all that’s good, the former all that’s bad. I think Pioli can get the job done, Haley ? Well before midseason we will see his little pinhead pop like a pimple. Mid scream.

by FrankPitts on Sep 23, 2009 6:58 PM CDT reply actions  

haha

I can’t say I don’t agree with you, but we should take it easy on the personal attacks.
no need for name calling

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season

by stagdsp on Sep 23, 2009 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

can i call frank ANNE RETARTE?

Len Dawson:

"Lamar Hunt had a dream and, the thing is, we had dreams, too. Just imagine the number of people that he has touched because he said, 'I'm going after this dream."'

by smokin iowa chief on Sep 23, 2009 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think so...

He hasn’t said “check” at all or “heh heh heh :) ;) :-P :)(@#SD” or any of that crap.

I think Frank Pitts is just another hater. Someone who’s not happy unless they have something to complain about. It’s sad really. I’ll miss him when the Chiefs start winning and he doesn’t come on here anymore.

Penn State to Kansas City...Always a winning combination.

by YNinja on Sep 23, 2009 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah but...

sure enough when they start winning….he’ll either find something else to complain about or jump on the wagon…lol

by BIG_CHIEF18 on Sep 23, 2009 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah....

“Oh I always knew he’d be a great coach!!” of course…saying that from a different screen name.

Penn State to Kansas City...Always a winning combination.

by YNinja on Sep 23, 2009 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

From Frank tits...

the chiefs are great!!!! Coach Haley rocks!!

by BIG_CHIEF18 on Sep 23, 2009 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

you are a little extreme and brash...

kinda like the guy you’re critcizing…

And, I’m not convinced that you have a good basis for your judgement at this point.

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season

by stagdsp on Sep 23, 2009 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

This team is without question better than it was last year

I know the record doesn’t show it yet, but with exception to the TE (a big exception, mind you), we are FAR better at pretty much every position.

I think Haley will mellow a bit as he goes along. Being intense is just his style. It works for some coaches (Cowher) but not for others (Dungy). Unless he turns into Bo Pelini and gets a penalty for screaming, I think we’re going to be OK.

Give the “process” time. Despite Whitlock’s best efforts, this team will come together by the end of the season when the schedule lightens up.

by jjbjhawk on Sep 23, 2009 7:01 PM CDT reply actions  

Gee guys you're right

Haley is GREAT!!! He is the combination of Hank Stram and Bill Walsh and Bill Cowher—accept he’s a winless idiot.

by FrankPitts on Sep 23, 2009 7:03 PM CDT reply actions  

Yep, there it is!

The already tired “winless” toss away critique. Seriously? Would it be great if we were 2-0 or 1-1? Yes. But, it is extreme to nth degree to be bitching about being winless already. It’s only 2 games in and look at the team we had to start with.

Air Cassel - approved for takeoff

by kabrink on Sep 23, 2009 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Herm got us to the playoff’s his first year, that makes him a good coach, right?

Glad to know there’s geniuses out there who can judge a persons career on just two games.

by Jawookie on Sep 23, 2009 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jeff Fisher is winless too.

The Titans should fire him.

Penn State to Kansas City...Always a winning combination.

by YNinja on Sep 23, 2009 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Haley

I’m going to tell yall what the problem is every sense we’ve gotten our new GM an HC because of where they came from we expect sucess asap man look our “D” is looking okay but (it was Oakland) we can say somthing after this weekend but we making ourselfs think it automatic success and its not just give Pioli &Co. some time yall see what we do “patience”.

by chiefsfan84 on Sep 23, 2009 7:23 PM CDT reply actions  

Todd Terrific

He’s great, he fires the OC and the offense not only goes in the toilet but he blows crucial end of half goal line costing the team the winning points. Maybe he shouldn’t be active this week.

by FrankPitts on Sep 23, 2009 7:55 PM CDT reply actions  

It wasn't that much better...

But Gailey deserved to keep his job…. he took a team with little or no talent that couldn’t move the ball and installed an offense in just a couple of weeks that moved the football. It’d be pretty hard right now to discredit what gailey did for us last year.

There are two ways of seen how an OC should work. One says you should have a system and acquire the right players, the other says you take the talent you have and you make something work… he obviosly did the second piece last year.

by callmesir on Sep 23, 2009 11:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

it wasn't a case

Of Chan not deserving to keep his job or not being a good OC. It is a case of there is a difference in play calling philosophy between Haley and Gailey which was causing Haley undo tension so he made the decision to go on without Chan. Just another step in making things go the direction that Haley wants them to go. And if you noticed yesterday Andy Reid says he thinks Haley is doing things the right way. But then you probably think Reid doesn’t know anything either.

Chiefs go 9-7. LJ makes 1400 yards. DBowe makes 1200 yards. Defense #18.

by Zodeman on Sep 24, 2009 5:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

actually...

It’s funny that it was Andy reid of all people, because someone asked me the type of guy I wanted coaching the chiefs, I brought up rex ryan…. and Andy Reid… just a little too damned convienent… The Gods of football just wanted to piss on me this day…. so basically, I’m going to put my fingers in my ears and say la la la la la I didn’t hear anything… ha

by callmesir on Sep 24, 2009 6:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

Rex Ryan's the real deal.

No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.

by hmills110 on Sep 24, 2009 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

That play...

was on Cassel dumping it off to Savage. It was a mental mistake by him. Was there really any doubt this team was going to have growing pains? It is hard to turn over a 53 man roster in one offseason. I always say there is a 3 year rule. 3 offseasons really to get your personal in place and the kind of talent you want. I personally think we can win the AFC west after one more offseason.

by I_Bleed_Red. on Sep 24, 2009 12:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

Can I ask why you complain about a personal attack...

And then call Haley an idiot? You lose all credibility.

And while you are entitled to your own opinion, I think we should reserve making a decision until the end of the year. I like his style (I’m in the Army though, I get a warm and fuzzy when I see people yelling at other people), the team is showing improvement (yes yes yes, they’re winless, but it’s been TWO fucking games), and the players are responding to his ass chewings.

Just relax. He’s not a horrible coach. He’s not a great coach. He’s a 1st year head coach. That’s it. He has done nothing to be descirbed either way.

Penn State to Kansas City...Always a winning combination.

by YNinja on Sep 23, 2009 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

And it's red or blue pill ;)

Penn State to Kansas City...Always a winning combination.

by YNinja on Sep 23, 2009 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

or how about....

shut up and let the man do his job….if you feel the need to complain…write a letter or if that doesn’t work kick your cat or something

by BIG_CHIEF18 on Sep 23, 2009 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

I do not condone cat kicking.

But by all means, Frank, write a letter to the governor of Missouri and maybe he’ll kick Haley out of the state.

Penn State to Kansas City...Always a winning combination.

by YNinja on Sep 23, 2009 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, Haley is such a dick...

That’s why Larry Johnson keeps complaining about him. And Bobby Wade stayed far far away. And why Matt Cassel hates him. Right? Right? Guys?

Seriously…quit complaining about him yelling. He’s an adult. And all those millionaires are big boys. They can take a little ass chewing, cause they need it. I hate coddling.

Penn State to Kansas City...Always a winning combination.

by YNinja on Sep 23, 2009 7:58 PM CDT reply actions  

And what do you consider that to be?

When he wins the superbowl?

Penn State to Kansas City...Always a winning combination.

by YNinja on Sep 23, 2009 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Mike?

Mike Lombardi? Is that you?

-cw

Watching the 2009-2010 Chiefs 12 hours ahead of you (in Taipei, Taiwan).
Twittering my every move. Don't act like you're not even slightly interested.

by webby37 on Sep 23, 2009 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'll quit complaining...

when the players start f-ing up. And I’ll start complaining if I don’t see the HC trying to correct the f-ups. This team is young and it is lacking talent. Haley has already shown that he can get more talent out of our more marquis players in Bowe and DJ then Herm ever could. Larry Fitzgerald would not be who he is today without Todd Haley. If you watch inside the NFL on Showtime they did a bit in week 1 where they miked up all of the new coaches. I think there were like 8 first time head coaches this year. Anyway, after watching it I’m more convinced that we got the right guy for the job. He was the only one they showed who was trying to get the most out of his players. Guys like Spagnola, McDaniels, Schwartz, and Cable looked lost. I like Rex in NY, but I really like how Haley motivates and drives players to become better. I also think his gameplan against the Steelers in the Superbowl was genius.

by I_Bleed_Red. on Sep 24, 2009 12:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

Lombardi & Walsh

I’ve thrown down a couple of comments on Lombardi’s article. I don’t mind opposing opinions. Lombardi’s a Bill Walsh disciple and pretty much disapproves of everything the Chiefs are doing. Some of which I can see his POV, don’t agree with all of it, but I can respect it. On the “character issues” crap he published and “Haley has no composure” he’s off the reservation though.

Has this guy ever seen Parcells or Coughlin during a game?

The biggest threat to Haley’s career is winning games, not losing his composure (which I don’t think he has done so far). And we need a few more than two games to decide whether he can do that.

by Kane on Sep 23, 2009 10:33 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm starting to think

AP gets paid per comment… Has anyone else noticed the influx of haley/anti-haley articles posted lately… I think they want to stir the pot…. ha

by callmesir on Sep 23, 2009 11:33 PM CDT reply actions  

That & the QB controversy!

LOL!!!
I noticed that yesterday, all of the Star writers tried to create a controversy from 3 different angles. Probably got a few more hits yesterday than what they normally get. Without controversy or differing views there aren’t as many views of the views, so to say!
As far as AP getting paid per comment, I haven’t a clue; although if they do, your persistence in “stirring the pot” should get you a commission! j/k (kinda)

by ttownmikey on Sep 24, 2009 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

hmmmm commissioned based sales

On comment…. now THAT’s an idea….

by callmesir on Sep 24, 2009 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

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