Chiefs Have Been Preparing for Michael Vick and the Wildcat
by Joel Thorman on Sep 23, 2009 3:52 PM CDT
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Kansas City Chiefs head coach Todd Haley talked about his team's preparation for the Eagles who, like the Chiefs, don't have complete stability at the quarterback situation this second. And, unlike the Chiefs, they are inserting a new weapon into the offense this week - Michael Vick.
The wildcat, where someone other than the quarterback takes the snap, has been the craze as of late. "Like I said, that’s the wave right now, this wildcat wave," Haley told reporters.
The wildcat really made waves last year when the Miami Dolphins unveiled it to beat the New England Patriots early in the year. Since that point, a large number of teams have tried to copy that. For Haley, they've been preparing for the wildcat wave.
"We spent a lot of time as a defensive staff in the offseason and even as an offensive staff trying to be as prepared as we could for some of those things. Obviously, on game day it’s being ready for whatever tweaks they’ve made to it."
As far as the wildcat goes, there may not be a better option for that than Vick.
"I know that there were a lot of times down there in Atlanta where I was holding my breath when he was holding the football. That’s what I remember, the fear factor. He’s a big-time athlete that has the chance to play the game that I’m sure he loves."
Last week, the Eagles ran ten offensive plays out of the wildcat, presumably in preparation for the return of Vick. It was receiver DeSean Jackson taking the snaps last week. This week? It could be any of them but, according to Haley, Vick presents the most problems out of that offensive set.
"Well yeah. I think for sure because you don’t always know what skills those guys have other than what you’ve seen them play at their position. If you had a guy like (QB) Michael (Vick) playing it, you know he probably throws, I would think, better than any of them, so that adds another dimension to it with his ability to run and throw."
So, the Chiefs have been preparing for this day and this formation all offseason. The Eagles with Vick are probably the team best suited to run it. Now it's just up to the Chiefs to stop it.
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a dimension I think he could add...
Is that most teams are able to discount the QB once he lines up wide… yet with a guy like mike vick it’s no longer an 11 on 10 play… he’d have to be accounted for. it’d be a nightmare for vick to come in for a few plays run some option looks with mccoy then have him line up wide with desean jackson taking snaps in the wildcat, if you get the ball out to him we already know he can run, but add in the fact that he could throw the ball on a long crossing route…. I can’t imagine how much work clancy is going to have to put in. They have perfect personnel for the offense they run, they have a TON of speed all over the field running that modified west coast offense.
by callmesir on Sep 23, 2009 4:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Vick is a terrible pass catcher
According to Dan Reeves anyway. They were asking him about it on a radio show here in atlanta a few weeks ago & he said they could never use Vick as a receiver because he simply can’t catch the ball.
by jmcgoblue on Sep 23, 2009 4:17 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not asking him to make an acrobatic catch on the sidelines....
but generally that corner plays off the qb lined up wide, and I think you sure as hell wouldn’t want to get caught looking in the backfield if they found a way to get him the ball
by callmesir on Sep 23, 2009 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't be surprised if the Chiefs run some Wild Cat
ot the Thigcat as I like to call it.
They did use the Thiggy draw against Baltimore so we know they have a package for him.
I would love to see us burn them at their own game.
D-Bowe, Mark Bradley, Bobby Engram and Turtle. Four Chiefs WRers. 4 Pro Bowlers.
by Patrick Allen on Sep 23, 2009 4:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Thigcat is alright
I prefer Bonecat.
RIP Bodhi - Not tragic to die doing what you love. You want the ultimate thrill, you gotta be willing to pay the ultimate price.
by craig in calgary on Sep 23, 2009 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's just cruelty to animals
the reverse michael Vick. Instead of hating dogs to the point of awkward torture it’s loveing cats to the point of awkward… I’m not even going to finish that
Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.
by 808NaNz808 on Sep 23, 2009 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The D they have in place
for when Vick is in the game should be called The Dog Catcher
D-Bowe, Mark Bradley, Bobby Engram and Turtle. Four Chiefs WRers. 4 Pro Bowlers.
by Patrick Allen on Sep 23, 2009 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or the
“Knock the head off that dog raping piece of shit who doesn’t deserve to be on the field” package
RIP Bodhi - Not tragic to die doing what you love. You want the ultimate thrill, you gotta be willing to pay the ultimate price.
by craig in calgary on Sep 23, 2009 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
hahaha!
psych him out
Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.
by 808NaNz808 on Sep 23, 2009 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder if we implement any thigpen packages...
I know Haley mentioned that after firing chan he was basically installing a whole new offense, with that much on the players plate I wonder how much practice time is left for installing a package like that, I’d love to see it, but that’s only because I’m waaaaayyy old school and it’s the closest thing to the veer I’m ever gonna see in pro football… ha
by callmesir on Sep 23, 2009 4:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Thigpen
Wasn’t even active last week. I guess if he’s active this week it’s a good sign they’re trying something.
by jmcgoblue on Sep 23, 2009 4:20 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Its not that he wasn't active
He is the “emergency 3rd” QB. He can play but he doesn’t count on the 45 active roster.
I learned that on here!
RIP Bodhi - Not tragic to die doing what you love. You want the ultimate thrill, you gotta be willing to pay the ultimate price.
by craig in calgary on Sep 23, 2009 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he can't play until the 4th quarter
or both the other QBs are not allowed to return to the game. Might be good for a 4th quarter surprise there I guess.
Chiefs go 9-7. LJ makes 1400 yards. DBowe makes 1200 yards. Defense #18.
by Zodeman on Sep 24, 2009 5:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I learned that a couple of years ago...
It’s kinda weird that you’re allowed to dress a 46th guy as an emergency 3rd QB but if he comes in neither of the first two guys are allowed to play again? but he could just be added as the 45th player and it wouldn’t matter
by callmesir on Sep 23, 2009 4:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't see that happening.
We may run a couple of plays like that but, I really doubt it. I see us lining up and playing OUR game offensively. A balanced offense with more than likely a few shots downfield.
Defensively, we will have guys covering Vick like glue any time he steps onto the field. He won’t do any real damage, at least I don’t think so. As long as we stop their run game, we have a chance to win. Kolb is not a very good passer.
by Chiefsfan1970 on Sep 23, 2009 4:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes Vick is a shitty QB
But answer me seriously, in the entire NFL, is there a faster, more “shit-your-pants-scary-on-a-crazy-wildcat-double-WR-reverse” tandem than Vick, Desean Jackson, and Jeremy Maclin? =)
Shit, those three could run a three-man relay the length of the field in the time it took most of our defense to run the 40…
Ryan Succop will be the kicker for the AFC in the 2011 Pro Bowl
by PVChiefsfan on Sep 23, 2009 6:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Actually
I think if you put Jackson and Maclin as partners in a three-legged race, and made Vick stand in a burlap sack, they’d still outrun us…
Ryan Succop will be the kicker for the AFC in the 2011 Pro Bowl
by PVChiefsfan on Sep 23, 2009 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm gonna go ahead and throw this out there from the top of my soapbox
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, THIGPEN AND VICK AND PAT WHITE AREN’T RUNNING THE WILDCAT! It’s just a college spread offense! What did we read @ the top?
The wildcat, where someone other than the quarterback takes the snap, has been the craze as of late.
I’m pretty sure that Thigpen and Vick AND White are all are quarterbacks; how, then, is this the wildcat?
steps down from soapbox
-cw
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by webby37 on Sep 23, 2009 7:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Ah, but see THERE is your mistake
It actually IS the wildcat with Vick, because he throws the ball as well as Larry Johnson does ;)
Ryan Succop will be the kicker for the AFC in the 2011 Pro Bowl
by PVChiefsfan on Sep 23, 2009 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My thought
Why does everyone seem to think we have to run the wildcat (or thigcat, or college spread offense) just because it seems likely that Philly will? Just concentrate on running OUR offense well and stomping on theirs.
Air Cassel - approved for takeoff
by kabrink on Sep 23, 2009 7:09 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
+1—PLAY YOUR GAME, CHIEFS.
Also, an additionally +1 for the “Thigcat”.
-cw
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by webby37 on Sep 23, 2009 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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