Damn Haley
What you are about to read makes ample use of the swear word "Damn." Please be advised before reading.
Damn Haley.
Damn Haley for demoting D-Bowe and embarrassing him until he started making blocks downfield and stopped dropping the ball!
Damn Haley for benching Mr. Fumble-rooski Jamaal Charles, who has home run ability but just hasn’t hit any home runs yet in the 21 games he has been a Chief!
Damn Haley for using Savage instead who played pretty well and has shown consistant promise since preseason when he has been given an opportunity.
Damn Haley for playing Matt Cassel over Brodie Croyle, Tyler Thigpen, Trent Green (current day version) Lenny Dawson (current day version) Ryan Leaf, Santa Clause and Barney the Purple Dinosaur.
Damn Haley for yelling at Jack O’Connel for not being on the field when he was supposed to be and costing the team a time out!
Damn Haley for yelling at Brodie Croyle who, after a time out, somehow managed to get the team a delay of game by not SNAPPING THE F#^$ING BALL!”
Damn Haley for berating the morons on special teams who stood around a punted football and had a circle jerk instead of picking up said ball before it rolled into the GOD DAMN ENDZONE!
Damn Haley for not answering questions the way Jason Whitlock wants him to.
Damn Haley for choosing to fulfill his obligation to speak to the media but exercising his right to not make public his plans until the absolute last moment so as not to give his opponent any unnecessary advantage before Sunday.
Damn Haley for saying he will start the players he and his coaches feel will give the team the best chance to win and then ACTUALLY DOING IT!
Damn Haley for demoting DJ and then getting 2 games in a row of solid production out of him! We like our DJ awesome one game and non-existent the next game. None of this consistent play, earning your starting spot for Chiefs fans! If they are supposed to be good we want them in the line up whether they perform consistently on the field or not!
Damn Haley for nearly knocking off the Ravens, who were in the AFC Championship game last season, on the road, without his starting QB and CB.
Damn Haley for getting his team to show remarkable improvement in offensive yards, first downs, 3rd down completion percentage and run production in a matter of a week. Furthermore, damn Haley for getting his defense to have a complete turn around, with a tip to the hat of J Russel. Damn particularly the defensive line which had its best game in years and the run defense which shut down a potent running attack that gashed them for 100’s of yards last season.
Damn Haley for yelling at his players for making stupid mental errors like jumping off sides and killing drives on a day where the offense was moving the football. Damn him for not waiting until the game was over and he was behind closed doors to berate his players and express his displeasure. As the boss, he should wait until the team is done screwing up before letting them know about it.
Damn Haley for letting that Bobby Wade guy play over Mark Bradley. That Bobby Wade guy who caught 3 passes on the team’s first scoring drive, including a 16-yard pass.
Damn Haley for not sprinkling some magic fairy dust on a team that won 2 of 14 games the previous year to make them a winner in a matter of 2 games. Damn the improvement shown on the pass rush, however mild it has been. We want 6 sacks a game damn it. We want them from Wallace Gilberry and Wallace Gilberry alone. And we want them now.
Damn Haley for making it apparent that he is doing everything in his power to turn the Kansas City Chiefs into a winning football franchise. Damn him for demanding accountability from the players and coaches, including offensive coordinators. Damn him for following through on his word instead of just saying “we can build on this” like Herman Edwards.
Damn Todd Haley. He is a garbage head coach. He is a terrible game manager. He is mean to his players. He makes them work hard in training camp. He wants them to be winners. He demands perfection. He endlessly searches for the best player at every position. He doesn’t take their crap and stands up to them as their boss and not their friend.
Damn Todd Haley. Damn him to hell.
Sunday’s loss was no ones fault but Todd Haley’s. Nothing good has come from this man and his short tenure as head coach of the Kansas City Chiefs. Bring back Herm as the offensive coordinator. Bring back Dick Vermiel as the Defensive Coordinator. Bring back Marty to coach. Bring back Carl. Start Brodie. Trade Thigpen. And kiss my ass.
Paddy
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GREAT POST
And that is why we love him as are coach. There is not many ? when it comes to Haley.
Very confident he will get it right!
by kcchiefstd on Sep 22, 2009 3:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
All those reasons above
are why Haley is my favorite Chiefs coach since Marty. I don’t know he will work out but I sure like what I see.
D-Bowe, Mark Bradley, Bobby Engram and Turtle. Four Chiefs WRers. 4 Pro Bowlers.
by Patrick Allen on Sep 22, 2009 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
My name is Todd Haley and I approve this message with an irrection

FOUR F'S FIND UM FEEL UM FUGUM FORGET UM.
by sexassassin on Sep 22, 2009 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Sex
Its Erection, followed by Orgasm :)
Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying
by Steve_Chiefs on Sep 22, 2009 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unless you are my GF
I concider sex to be a race to the orgasm, and I’m undefeated!
RIP Bodhi - Not tragic to die doing what you love. You want the ultimate thrill, you gotta be willing to pay the ultimate price.
by craig in calgary on Sep 22, 2009 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You win without
ever even making it on to the field!
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by Scaryclouds on Sep 22, 2009 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
LOL
Love the post, Paddy. Those are my thoughts down to a T.
Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes; after that, who cares?! He's a mile away and you've got his shoes!
by SuperTurtle on Sep 22, 2009 3:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Fumble-rooski
hahahahaha
You had me at fumblerooski. Just a great post.
by jcru on Sep 22, 2009 3:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
People are getting hysterical around here
I actually saw someone write “I miss Herm.”
Dear Lord…it’s been 2 games! That stuff scares the crap out of me.
D-Bowe, Mark Bradley, Bobby Engram and Turtle. Four Chiefs WRers. 4 Pro Bowlers.
by Patrick Allen on Sep 22, 2009 3:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Bologna!
No one said they missed Herm did they?!?!?!? Wow. He turned a perenial 10-win team into the clusterfuck of a team we cheer for now.
I’m still not sold on Haley, but I’m a Chiefs fan and he’s the head coach of my football team and I’m going to support him.
I’m a Vermiel guy.
RIP Bodhi - Not tragic to die doing what you love. You want the ultimate thrill, you gotta be willing to pay the ultimate price.
by craig in calgary on Sep 22, 2009 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I swear it happened.
I don’t remember where but I saw it. One guy is convinced Haley is the worst coach of all time.
D-Bowe, Mark Bradley, Bobby Engram and Turtle. Four Chiefs WRers. 4 Pro Bowlers.
by Patrick Allen on Sep 22, 2009 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Some people need to give their head a shake
Thats why I refused to go on AP Monday morning.
RIP Bodhi - Not tragic to die doing what you love. You want the ultimate thrill, you gotta be willing to pay the ultimate price.
by craig in calgary on Sep 22, 2009 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Its true.
Todd Haley has such a bevy of weapons he decided to leave his one offensive homerun threat on the sidelines. After two games I miss Herm. Arrogant plus dumb is a bad mix.
Wow.
RIP Bodhi - Not tragic to die doing what you love. You want the ultimate thrill, you gotta be willing to pay the ultimate price.
by craig in calgary on Sep 22, 2009 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I sure loved Dick too
I wish he never would have left. Bring back Dick!! lol But I’ll take Haley in the meantime.
by HeatherChiefsLvr on Oct 1, 2009 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cue, sexassassin in 3, 2...
What about the twinkie?
"All praise Chiefus."
by DThomasReigns on Oct 1, 2009 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah...
as soon as I pushed post I realized how bad that sounded. We really do need a DELETE button.
by HeatherChiefsLvr on Oct 2, 2009 9:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
THATS JUST TO EASY HAHAHAH
FOUR F'S FIND UM FEEL UM FUGUM FORGET UM.
by sexassassin on Oct 2, 2009 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's that the haterz.
I’ve noticed that the haters are coming out strong this season. Must be the Yahoo merger.
by AngryJesus on Sep 23, 2009 12:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"I miss Herm" ???? Really???
Must have been Whitlock… ha ha
by JoeMacOfKC on Sep 24, 2009 9:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
awesome post
way to set people straight. it had been 2 games for christ sake. lets all go jump off a bridge cause we have not won yet. be patient and it wont be long and we will be wondering when we are going to lose a game. this team from top to bottom is going to be one of the best. i have been so impressed with haley. in his press conferences you can just tell he is a winner and is going to make us one as a team as well.
travis
by gokcchiefsgo on Sep 22, 2009 3:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Damn!
Nice post
Winning begins with Attitude - 2009 Chiefs 12-4
by Lanier63 on Sep 22, 2009 3:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Sheer Awsomeness!
Rec’d
The Good: Moved the ball some, stopped the run
The Bad: penalties and not getting a FG before halftime
The Ugly: losing to J. Russel who couldn't hit the broad side of a barn from five yards away
by KCporkchop on Sep 22, 2009 3:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Thank you
Rec’d
"The spirit, the will to win, and the will to excel are the things that endure. These qualities are so much more important than the events that occur." - Vince Lombardi
by Shawn on Sep 22, 2009 4:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Once again, hooray for Paddy!
Rec’d
"All praise Chiefus."
by DThomasReigns on Sep 22, 2009 4:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
+1 and reced
Len Dawson:
"Lamar Hunt had a dream and, the thing is, we had dreams, too. Just imagine the number of people that he has touched because he said, 'I'm going after this dream."'
by smokin iowa chief on Sep 23, 2009 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Praise Paddy +1
Paddy for President!!!
Paddy just saved the Day
Thank you for putting this season into Perspective for these our fellow chief brethren
Haley told the offense to run it again. When someone said the defense already knows the play he responded, "So what, make it work."
by Jay Cotton on Sep 24, 2009 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes
bring back Dick Curl as the defensive line coach.
D-Bowe, Mark Bradley, Bobby Engram and Turtle. Four Chiefs WRers. 4 Pro Bowlers.
by Patrick Allen on Sep 22, 2009 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice work Patrick
Bring back Eddie Drummond as the quarterbacks coach
by The Other Patrick Allen on Sep 22, 2009 4:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Drummond!
He should totally coach the QB’s.
And Bad Moon Rison to be the offensive line coach.
D-Bowe, Mark Bradley, Bobby Engram and Turtle. Four Chiefs WRers. 4 Pro Bowlers.
by Patrick Allen on Sep 22, 2009 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ryan Sims could coach the secondary
RIP Bodhi - Not tragic to die doing what you love. You want the ultimate thrill, you gotta be willing to pay the ultimate price.
by craig in calgary on Sep 22, 2009 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ooh, good one
But I think Junior Siavii would be slightly more qualified
by The Other Patrick Allen on Sep 22, 2009 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What about Greg Robinson?
His teams loved to shut down the pass!
D-Bowe, Mark Bradley, Bobby Engram and Turtle. Four Chiefs WRers. 4 Pro Bowlers.
by Patrick Allen on Sep 22, 2009 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trezelle Jenkins
always seemed to improve the defensive lineman
by smokin Jake on Sep 22, 2009 11:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If only we had Lenny Walls and Eric Warfield back *sigh*
Penn State to Kansas City...Always a winning combination.
by YNinja on Sep 22, 2009 11:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Man, you is crazy
What the hell are you talking about? Junior Siavii coaches the Tight ends, Ryan Sims is the secondary coach. Its really just simple math.
RIP Bodhi - Not tragic to die doing what you love. You want the ultimate thrill, you gotta be willing to pay the ultimate price.
by craig in calgary on Sep 22, 2009 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What about Greg Robinsion?
D-Bowe, Mark Bradley, Bobby Engram and Turtle. Four Chiefs WRers. 4 Pro Bowlers.
by Patrick Allen on Sep 22, 2009 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's too busy winning a National Championship
RIP Bodhi - Not tragic to die doing what you love. You want the ultimate thrill, you gotta be willing to pay the ultimate price.
by craig in calgary on Sep 22, 2009 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I swear I saw Siavii playing the other night for someone. Said that he’s trying to make a comeback after three years of not playing. Cowboys maybe?
by JComp11 on Sep 22, 2009 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Me, too. And maybe the 'boyz.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
by hmills110 on Sep 23, 2009 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is correct
I heard that during the game and couldn’t believe it. I had to go look it up online. Sure enough, he’s with the Boys this year.
by Big Chief on Sep 24, 2009 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Funny way of putting shit but dead on
It’s been two games some are going way over board with the teams performance. Your right. Last week we have the Ravens down to the end at Baltimore. Cassel comes back this week after an mcl injury and people are killing him. Come on, give it some time. We have been in both games and are team looks vastly approved from last year. We held the Raiders running attack which was a major improvement from last year and put together substained drives as well. F Herm Edwards.
by B-unit on Sep 22, 2009 4:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Love how Haley doesn’t take any bullshit or let anyone off the hook either.
by B-unit on Sep 22, 2009 4:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
great post!
give the guys time they will do this! look around the league and see how many players are dropping like flies! 1 major player from the Eagles, Giants and Cowboys are all on the shelf. Haleys conditioning program may not pay off in the 4th quarter of TWO GAMES but it will for the season! keep an eye on all the injuries from these teams folks! its going to play in our advantage!
by jrcnc on Sep 22, 2009 4:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
WHY
NOT ALL CAPS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A MUCH BETTER POST : )
Great players dont win championships.....Great TEAMS win championships
by DT58forever on Sep 22, 2009 4:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
haha
I tried to use a little CAPS in there but I wanted it to be readable…
But I see your point…it would have given me oh so much more authority. People would have known how much I meant it, not by the content of my post but by the text!
WHAT A GREAT IDEA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! &$&(@#(%(#@
D-Bowe, Mark Bradley, Bobby Engram and Turtle. Four Chiefs WRers. 4 Pro Bowlers.
by Patrick Allen on Sep 22, 2009 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1,000,000,000
Couldn’t agree more. I can deal with the losses that are occuring at this point because they aren’t hollow ones like Mr. “You Play To Win The Game” This is a team on the way up.
by BetterRedThanDead on Sep 22, 2009 4:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
how is it any better
When you take into consideration pioli saying he has no idea when we’re going to start winning, but boy are they going to try hard…. That’s BETTER?
by callmesir on Sep 22, 2009 7:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
how many wins will it take until you see any positives with Haley?
Winning begins with Attitude - 2009 Chiefs 12-4
by Lanier63 on Sep 23, 2009 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm gonna say 16.
These guys are never happy.
Penn State to Kansas City...Always a winning combination.
by YNinja on Sep 23, 2009 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lets just start with one...then work from there..
Don't Fuccop Succop
by chicks_love_chiefs on Sep 23, 2009 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hell as long as Haley reaches three wins
I’ll get off his back, he just needs to get the sour taste of that 22 guys off the stree comment out of my mouth before I’ll even begin to give him a chance.
by callmesir on Sep 23, 2009 11:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
most of those 22 guys that were on our team originaly are on the streets right now
FOUR F'S FIND UM FEEL UM FUGUM FORGET UM.
by sexassassin on Sep 24, 2009 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How do you know that comment was ever made?
Nobody has ever substantiated that claim made by fatlock. If you are taking his word for gospel, you are truly lost.
Hey, at least our punter is pretty good, so we got that goin for us, right?
by big_Scott on Sep 24, 2009 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It would've been on its way up, in any case.
Herm was perfectly capable of coaching the Chiefs to 5 to 8 wins this year. I never had any doubt about that. The change in GM AND HC, though, gives me hope for an eventual championship and SERIOUS contention, and NOTHING we’ve seen so far is any reason to think it necessarily will or will not happen.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
by hmills110 on Sep 23, 2009 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry hmills
but I beg to differ on this one. No way were the Chiefs going to win 5 to 8 games this year without the major changes that we’ve undergone. We have released 31 players & only 4 of them were picked up by other teams. True we would still have Tony G, but 4 to 5 would have been the max if Herm & Carl were still in place & that is pretty much a stretch. JMHO
by ttownmikey on Sep 23, 2009 10:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They would've drafted Curry, 1st of all.
And they’d’ve made some other picks ‘n’ stuff, probably concentrating on the right side of the o-line, whatever.
And they’d’ve won a few more than they won last year. Carl prob’ly would’ve fought Al tooth and nail for Ellis and Seymour, and landed both of ’em for more than Al ended up paying…
No question, they’d’ve been better this year, along Carl’s lines. He’d prob’ly have the cap maxed out, by now, trying to put together a winning season with all the room he gave himself – uh, Pioli…
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
by hmills110 on Sep 24, 2009 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah & Haynesworth
and he may have talked Lenny into coming out of retirement or maybe Favre. Without major changes, Herm wasn’t coaching anyone to 5 -8 wins.
by ttownmikey on Sep 25, 2009 8:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wrecked....
This voices my displeasure with so many people on this site right now to a T. Herm didn’t rebuild, he destroyed (and I am sad to say I was on his bandwagon). Name one player….ONE…that Haley has called out that hasn’t imrpoved. You can’t. Its working…….
by Zimmy on Sep 22, 2009 4:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I wish he would call out Mike Goff!
Although the line looked a bit better in week 2. Let’s hope they are improving.
D-Bowe, Mark Bradley, Bobby Engram and Turtle. Four Chiefs WRers. 4 Pro Bowlers.
by Patrick Allen on Sep 22, 2009 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll say it's working
when they’re winning, or at lest not losing in an embarrsing manner to a raiders team with the worst QB performance I’ve ever seen.
by callmesir on Sep 22, 2009 7:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You must not watch a lot of football then.
You must have not watched any of the Herm era. You are just a negative nancy….
Don't blame me, I voted for content of character.
by paratrooper on Sep 23, 2009 1:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, he's a troll. He'll be nice just to draw you back in, and then lay down a zinger.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
by hmills110 on Sep 23, 2009 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great post. The Whitlock comment made me laugh.
by zbschiefs on Sep 22, 2009 4:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Me, too.
And I’m proud of myself for passing over reading and any comments on the latest Shitlock article that came in on the overnight. Just KNEW when I saw the quote who wrote the article and that I wouldn’t dignify it with my time.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
by hmills110 on Sep 22, 2009 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Excellent job Paddy!
There are many more whom are supportive of Haley & his methods than the vociferous few whom seem to have a personal vendetta against him for some reason. It is nice to see someone put into words what many of us have been feeling.
Thank you sir & rec’d to the fullest!
by ttownmikey on Sep 22, 2009 5:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Im so in love with you...
…even if I can’t do your spreadsheets right…
Don't forget to be an AP-vangelist...Tell A Friend...
by woodman212 on Sep 22, 2009 5:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That sir...was perfect
REC’D
Matt Verderame
by Flowers24 on Sep 22, 2009 5:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
for some it will always be damn if you do and damn if you don’t
"There are few secrets in football. So execute." ~Coach Stram
"I think it's the fans. The place is crazy. It's a good crazy, if you're Kansas City." ~Coach Schottenheimer
by Bad Medicine on Sep 22, 2009 5:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow I think you crossed the line...
this is enough to hurt Haley’s feelings…go easy on him. :]
Great post!
by worc on Sep 22, 2009 5:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Todd Blackledge
For quarterbacks coach!
by TonylovesKC on Sep 22, 2009 5:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey! You lay off Blackledge...
He’s a great guy and we PSU fans love him. For shame! ;)
Penn State to Kansas City...Always a winning combination.
by YNinja on Sep 22, 2009 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol rec'd
The special teams having a circle jerk! hahahaha! Priceless!
by Chiefsfan85 on Sep 22, 2009 5:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Awesome PA!!
Great write up, people are already getting off the Pioli, Haley bandwagon, just two games! Hello, we just dealt with you play to win the game Herm frickin Edwards for three years, we get someone with the attack mentality, who holds his players responsible, who takes responsibility for his actions, and they miss Herm! Wow wonder if they will miss Herm when we are consistent winners?!
We have to run the gauntlet over the next few weeks, we will be better for it. Pioli is not done with the roster, he will improve it. LJ is getting ready to start whining again.
by Eric Allen on Sep 22, 2009 5:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Too early to string 'im up.
But after an almost-stolen win against the Ravens in a game in which they were dominated, but played smart, followed by an almost-dominant-win against the Raders in a game in which KC dominated, but made lots of mistakes, Haley’s wearing a pretty big target on his back this week, and he’s in my sights.
This Philly team is beatable. KC should beat them.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
by hmills110 on Sep 22, 2009 6:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Lol. That's some funny stuff!
Some of the points you make hammer the opinions that make me want to claw my own eyes out when I read them here….. over and over and over…..
Braccae illae virides cum subucula rosea et tunica Caledonia-quam elenganter concinnatur!
by Buck'O on Sep 22, 2009 6:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
amazing post
i absolutely loved this post. thats all i can say, perfect post for how i feel
by dwil2009 on Sep 22, 2009 7:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
damn pat you have so many homerun articles
your chasing this guy
FOUR F'S FIND UM FEEL UM FUGUM FORGET UM.
by sexassassin on Sep 22, 2009 7:07 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Hey now
no reason to throw Barry under the train. Lots of people can put on 50 lbs of muscle and have their head grow 4 hat sizes after the age of 30. He just ate a lot of protien and worked out hard.
Disclaimer: I’m one of Barry’s lawyers and used to be a huge Giants fan.
by BeijingKCfan on Sep 23, 2009 12:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh My Damn!
Rec
I want K.C. Wolfs' job!
by Jonezin4KC on Sep 22, 2009 7:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
damn haley
For losing two winnable games. Damn haley for being an offensive guru but only putting up 10 points against the raiders on opening day. Damn haley for droppin so many f-bombs on national tv so that I have to explain it to my nephew. Damn haley for making arrogant comments and staring an 0-6 start in the face. Damn Haley for calling a QB sneak on 2nd and 1 on the raiders 25 and not taking a shot in the endzone.
For all he’s done well, He’s done alot poorly as well. Get off the we love haley because he’s not herm bandwagon and realize he’s perfect. Bottom line he’s contributed to two losses that could have been wins.
by callmesir on Sep 22, 2009 7:12 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Damn Haley for calling a QB sneak on 2nd and 1 on the raiders 25 and not taking a shot in the endzone.
So what you are really trying to say is “Damn Haley for getting a first down?”
Nice.
D-Bowe, Mark Bradley, Bobby Engram and Turtle. Four Chiefs WRers. 4 Pro Bowlers.
by Patrick Allen on Sep 22, 2009 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
what I'm saying is
you keep that sneak in your pocket for third down, you take a shot at the endzone on second and short, that’s not rocket science. You still end up with the field goal they got anyway while giving yourself at least one legit shot at the endzone.
by callmesir on Sep 22, 2009 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or a legit shot to throw an interception
this criticism is absurd. If you don’t like the coach cause he swears at the players then fine but to complain about him getting a first down instead of taking a high risk play that if it fails will bring a 3rd down is just stupid.
D-Bowe, Mark Bradley, Bobby Engram and Turtle. Four Chiefs WRers. 4 Pro Bowlers.
by Patrick Allen on Sep 22, 2009 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
taking a shot at the endzone is
coaching 101 I’m not proposing some outlandish crazy idea here… it’s pretty standard. even if it’s a one on one situation with bowe and th CB if he’s not open you throw the ball away, it’s no more likely to be an int than any other pass play. That first down meant nothing because we still ended up with just 3
by callmesir on Sep 22, 2009 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right
but you are still complaining that he got a 1st down.
If you want to complain about something complain about his stupid play call at the end of the first half. That is a legitimate mistake to which he owned up to. But all this chicken little business is premature.
No one is claiming Haley is a perfect coach…they are just pointing out that they like a lot of what he has done.
D-Bowe, Mark Bradley, Bobby Engram and Turtle. Four Chiefs WRers. 4 Pro Bowlers.
by Patrick Allen on Sep 22, 2009 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The point that I'm trying to make...
Is that he’s not perfect but people are too hung up on him… just want him to be open to the same criticisms that every other coach is, people act like he’s the second coming of jesus. Frankly, I’m sure he’s an average NFL coach and maybe I’m extra hard on him because I hate hearing all this homeriffic crap.
by callmesir on Sep 22, 2009 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you don't like homerific crap...
Then it’s best to stay away from the positive articles. I’m sure Jason Whitlock has a lot of articles you’d be more than happy to read!
Penn State to Kansas City...Always a winning combination.
by YNinja on Sep 22, 2009 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
+1
now that was funny.
Herm is gone things are better with that one move!!
by bringbacktheglory on Sep 23, 2009 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
29
other coaches in the leauge take a shot at the endzone in the first quarter at the 25… it was a mistake…. get over it quit being a homer. it’s not a high risk play
by callmesir on Sep 22, 2009 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I do that ALL THE TIME
in Madden.
RIP Bodhi - Not tragic to die doing what you love. You want the ultimate thrill, you gotta be willing to pay the ultimate price.
by craig in calgary on Sep 22, 2009 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it is only a mistake
because you think it is.
Not to mention the fact that he took a shot at the endzone AFTER he got the first down.
So you are actually upset about him not calling it on ONE specific play?
Yes I think that is absurd.
And I am far from a homer for thinking Haley is doing a good job.
D-Bowe, Mark Bradley, Bobby Engram and Turtle. Four Chiefs WRers. 4 Pro Bowlers.
by Patrick Allen on Sep 22, 2009 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's simply an example of one
play that I didn’t like, not a synopsis of every reason I dislike him….
Frankly, how much different is this team from last year? I just don’t think he’s doing nearly as good a job as everyone else, I guess. But all this crap has been hashed out a hundred times, I don’t have the energy for it anymore. It’s easy to agree with the majority.
by callmesir on Sep 22, 2009 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah I think it's a mistake...
I’m representing my views…. who do you think I’m representing?… yet He’s doing a good jobe because YOU THINK he is… hmmmm at least I’m consistent …
by callmesir on Sep 22, 2009 7:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Consistent & quite
obviously in the miniority. You can post & post & post but you will still be in the minority for at least this year & probably next. This team is improving & at this point that is all that anyone can really ask for until things have been in place for awhile. We’ve changed out 31 players & only 3 or 4 of the released ones have gotten jobs elsewhere. That fact in itself should speak volumes as to what everyone else is saying: they (Pioli & Haley) are doing everything that they can to make this franchise a winner again. They will make some mistakes along the way but thus far the product they are putting on the field appears to be headed in the right direction which is a huge improvement!!
by ttownmikey on Sep 22, 2009 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
I think that's a really great point: the players the Chiefs have cut aren't in the league any more.
So much for Herm’s great eye for talent.
Toby is in HR, which technically means he works for corporate, so he's really not a part of our family. Also, he's divorced, so he's really not a part of his family.
by Rev. Slappy on Sep 22, 2009 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And those that are, are mostly short term fixes due to injuries
Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying
by Steve_Chiefs on Sep 22, 2009 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice job ttown
my thoughts exactly.
We have to run the gauntlet over the next few weeks, we will be better for it. Pioli is not done with the roster, he will improve it. LJ is getting ready to start whining again.
by Eric Allen on Sep 22, 2009 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
People take my
criticism of Haley as defense of Herm… and it’s not in any way shape or form, They are two independent things. And frankly, it doesn’t matter if you replace 53 guys and don’t win. I don’t care about being in the majority or everyone agreeing with me. I’m just stating my opinion just like everyone else.
by callmesir on Sep 22, 2009 11:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
any chance you ever suffered from friendly fire?
Winning begins with Attitude - 2009 Chiefs 12-4
by Lanier63 on Sep 23, 2009 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not a fan of that comment.
Penn State to Kansas City...Always a winning combination.
by YNinja on Sep 23, 2009 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
personally i love the f bombs he lays on his players thats real talk right there
even my family was like holy moses . this guys dropping f bombs every play you know what i said somebody has to get nasty around here.
FOUR F'S FIND UM FEEL UM FUGUM FORGET UM.
by sexassassin on Sep 22, 2009 7:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
maybe it's different for me
because I have a two year old and a 6 year old nephew….
by callmesir on Sep 22, 2009 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe it's different for you
because you aren’t smart enough to know you are letting your kids watch a live sporting event where grown men swear non stop.
Though for 6 your kids are pretty good lip readers. Good for them.
Perhaps you can tell them Haley is saying duck? Or you could not let them watch.
D-Bowe, Mark Bradley, Bobby Engram and Turtle. Four Chiefs WRers. 4 Pro Bowlers.
by Patrick Allen on Sep 22, 2009 7:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have a young kid of my own,
dude you are reaching for anything to try to down Haley, go be a Tom Cable supporter. Did you even watch the Herm era? That blank stare, that what the hell I am I doing here look? We have a coach who holds his players responsible, as well as give them a pat on the butt when they do well, go dog on Cable.
We have to run the gauntlet over the next few weeks, we will be better for it. Pioli is not done with the roster, he will improve it. LJ is getting ready to start whining again.
by Eric Allen on Sep 22, 2009 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not reaching for reasons not to like them
Just lots of little things that add up. Has anyone ever imagined that some of these guys might be christians that he’s swearing at and might have an issue with it? It’s a pretty good way to get someone to resent you or quit on you if you’re not winning…
by callmesir on Sep 22, 2009 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously?
Christians never swear? Have not grown up around this days culture? Dude do they get offended when an opposing player cusses? Do they stay away from them? They get paid millions to play, I am sure they can suck it up, and play.
We have to run the gauntlet over the next few weeks, we will be better for it. Pioli is not done with the roster, he will improve it. LJ is getting ready to start whining again.
by Eric Allen on Sep 22, 2009 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here how about this..
how about playing some mistake free football, and then they do not have to hear it.
We have to run the gauntlet over the next few weeks, we will be better for it. Pioli is not done with the roster, he will improve it. LJ is getting ready to start whining again.
by Eric Allen on Sep 22, 2009 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not saying they never swear
but The extent to which he does it, is a bit over the top…. people that sear that much, or people that respond to that kind of motivational crap are weak minded.
by callmesir on Sep 22, 2009 8:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Must not be a construction worker.:)
The swearing does not bother me a bit, it is everyday life, I really think you do not like the guy, and you are grasping at straws here.
We have to run the gauntlet over the next few weeks, we will be better for it. Pioli is not done with the roster, he will improve it. LJ is getting ready to start whining again.
by Eric Allen on Sep 22, 2009 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've hashed out a bunch of reasons
that I don’t like haley, but the one thing it comes down to I don’t think his managerial “style” is going to produce results on the field.
by callmesir on Sep 22, 2009 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
With in just the short time he has been here,
this team has performed better than it did with Herm, the wins are not here yet, but they will be.
We have to run the gauntlet over the next few weeks, we will be better for it. Pioli is not done with the roster, he will improve it. LJ is getting ready to start whining again.
by Eric Allen on Sep 22, 2009 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe in a non professional
worksite like construction it’s okay to act like a tool and curse at people that fuck up, but not the rest of the world
by callmesir on Sep 22, 2009 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nonprofessional?
Is your head dry at night? Are you warm or cool? Yep them guys probably cussed as well.
We have to run the gauntlet over the next few weeks, we will be better for it. Pioli is not done with the roster, he will improve it. LJ is getting ready to start whining again.
by Eric Allen on Sep 22, 2009 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What perfect world do you live in?
Winning begins with Attitude - 2009 Chiefs 12-4
by Lanier63 on Sep 23, 2009 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
so, we've seen him swear twice right?
1. Croyle
2. O’Donnell
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by kabrink on Sep 22, 2009 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
did Kurt Warner
Quit on him? hes as christen as thay get…. come on
Len Dawson:
"Lamar Hunt had a dream and, the thing is, we had dreams, too. Just imagine the number of people that he has touched because he said, 'I'm going after this dream."'
by smokin iowa chief on Sep 23, 2009 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's absoloutely valid
Like I said earlier… I hadn’t seen Warner’s comments earlier and I respect him, Maybe my disgust with him goes from a 9 to a 7 now, but in the end the only thing that will sway me will be wins and losses, I don’t care if he kills babies if he wins a superbowl.
by callmesir on Sep 23, 2009 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why are you so disgusted with him?
We all know that respect has to be earned, so it is way to early to say we respect and agree with the way Haley is running this team. But it also goes the other way. Don’t be such a judgmental jerk and not give somebody a shot to earn your respect. I don’t think anybody here on AP is in love with Haley, despite what you think. But I would say most people are being a lot more open-minded and giving him a chance to prove his worth before becoming “disgusted” with him. There are several other teams, some good teams, such as the Titans, that are 0-2. Things can change in a hurry for any team this early in the season. Give Haley and this team a chance before putting them before the firing squad. We all know there were killer mistakes against the raiders, but look at how few mistakes were made against a much better Ravens team. Neither game has given us an absolute clue to the identity of this years team. We need to see some more games played in order to see if they are on the right path or not. A season two games does not make! Maybe you are just disgusted with Haley for things other than the Chiefs? Maybe the guy could be a saint and you would still hate him, who knows. I don’t know if I like him or not, but I know I am adult enough to give it a chance to work, or to fail, before I cast my vote!
Hey, at least our punter is pretty good, so we got that goin for us, right?
by big_Scott on Sep 24, 2009 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh yes, every work place in the United States is totally free of swearing.
Except Todd Haley’s practice field! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA! Todd Haley’s goal? To destroy the very fabric of American society! Seriously, I’ve never worked in a place where people didn’t swear. I hope the players don’t go home sobbing because Haley has been so very, very mean to them!
To quote Alec Bladwin’s character in the great movie Glengarry Glen Ross: “You think this is abuse? You think this is abuse you cocksucker? You can’t take this how can you take the abuse you get on a sit?”
To paraphrase, if these guys can’t take Haley yelling at them, how in the hell are they going to deal with the physical beating they take in a game??
Toby is in HR, which technically means he works for corporate, so he's really not a part of our family. Also, he's divorced, so he's really not a part of his family.
by Rev. Slappy on Sep 22, 2009 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You have a point,
you would have to be pretty soft minded for some words to hurt that bad, the mental part of a game would destroy you.
We have to run the gauntlet over the next few weeks, we will be better for it. Pioli is not done with the roster, he will improve it. LJ is getting ready to start whining again.
by Eric Allen on Sep 22, 2009 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe you're working at
Mcdonalds… but I’ve never worked in a professional environment where it was okay to curse employess out in front of everyone… People want to say these guys are professionals making alot of money to do a job, well then it’s still a job. I don’t think anyone but weak minded individuals respond to that kind of crap.
I drop an f-bomb at work every once in awhile talking to someone privately but I don’t curse at my employees.
by callmesir on Sep 22, 2009 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not everyone does,
but have you coached an offense to the superbowl?
We have to run the gauntlet over the next few weeks, we will be better for it. Pioli is not done with the roster, he will improve it. LJ is getting ready to start whining again.
by Eric Allen on Sep 22, 2009 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes, they're professionals and "employees"
but it’s still just a game, just football – that’s the culture of this game and in the locker room
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by kabrink on Sep 22, 2009 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
not cubicle culture
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by kabrink on Sep 22, 2009 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll give callmesir this one
I agree that in most office building you don’t hear the same kind of language Haley is using. BUT comparing office language to sports/gym/bar language is comparing apples and oranges. People get fired up in the heat of compitition and F-bombs fly. Seeing coaches/players swear on TV is nothing new and shouldn’t be all that surprizing.
by BeijingKCfan on Sep 23, 2009 12:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A first in our imperfect world
I drop an f-bomb at work every once in awhile talking to someone privately but I don’t curse at my employees.
Winning begins with Attitude - 2009 Chiefs 12-4
by Lanier63 on Sep 23, 2009 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m really confused by the inaccurate disassociation of any particular religion with foul language.
by burntorangehorn on Sep 25, 2009 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've been pretty good about
not being disrespectful to indivdual posters regardless of the kinda crap they’re saying… let’s be smart enough to leave out the personal attacks and debate a topic.
by callmesir on Sep 22, 2009 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anybody remember the first home game Marty coached against the Raiders in 1989?
He screamed “bullshit!!” at the referee and the dude still had his field mic on. Marty screaming “bullshit!” was broadcast over the stadium public address system and all over national television. Marty must have been a horrible football coach for doing that. Doesn’t he know kids might be watching?!?
Toby is in HR, which technically means he works for corporate, so he's really not a part of our family. Also, he's divorced, so he's really not a part of his family.
by Rev. Slappy on Sep 22, 2009 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The difference is..
That marty proved he knew what he was doing, this crap, along with coaching skill motivated players…. I’ve yet to see a win, and there’s a chance we won’t see one this year… Players will give up, and look at the man like he’s a dumbass
by callmesir on Sep 22, 2009 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Marty had a losing record his first year in KC.
There is no difference. You’ve decided you don’t like Haley for the same reason people decide they don’t like certain actors: you don’t like his demeanor. This is based on nothing concrete at all. You just don’t like the guy. No facts presented about Haley’s resume will assuage you.
It blows my mind that people are bitching about “no wins” and the guy has coached 2 games. Two weeks ago it was “Herm has more wins than Haley” before Haley even had a chance to coach a game.
Toby is in HR, which technically means he works for corporate, so he's really not a part of our family. Also, he's divorced, so he's really not a part of his family.
by Rev. Slappy on Sep 22, 2009 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
plus 4 pre season loses
I know it’s only pre season but still….we did lose all of them…and Haley himself took personal blame for his fuckups on the Raiders game. So to say he didn’t cost us that game when he himself admits it was his fault is silly.
I’m not saying damn Haley this or that….but he, as a rookie HC, has some work to do himself. He was the last HC chosen in the off season, so its not like guys were banging his door down to be their HC. He has a reputation for being an arrogant prick, this is not a reputation Whitlock game him, but rather his former players.
Don't Fuccop Succop
by chicks_love_chiefs on Sep 22, 2009 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He was the last HC chosen
because teams aren’t allowed to talk to other coaches if their team is still in the playoffs. I think the week off between the conference championship games and super bowl you’re allowed to meet with coaches if their team is still playing, but can’t officially offer anything until their season is over. Most teams didn’t want to risk waiting until after the Super Bowl, so they sought other candidates. By no means does it mean that Haley was not desired by other teams just because he was the last coach chosen.
by Bolan21 on Sep 22, 2009 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's right.
He was hired late because he was so good his team was in the damn playoffs! He was the guy Pioli wanted, and I can see why. But he still has to notch some wins!!!!!
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
by hmills110 on Sep 23, 2009 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also
about his former players, there was a blurb on the radio last week or so mentioning how many of the Arizona Cardinals believe they were off to such a slow start during the preseason because Todd Haley wasn’t there pushing them to strive for perfection. There was even mention of how a lot of them even missed it because it produced great results. I’ll see if i can find a link. It’s pretty interesting.
by Bolan21 on Sep 22, 2009 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Every coach has work to do.
Any coach worth his salt is constantly trying to find ways to do it better. Haley is a first year HC so he is going to have a learning curve.
Toby is in HR, which technically means he works for corporate, so he's really not a part of our family. Also, he's divorced, so he's really not a part of his family.
by Rev. Slappy on Sep 22, 2009 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't need a reason not to like Haley
But The point I keep trying to get across, is that I don’t think a guy with his background or lack thereof coming into a losing culture and being an arrogant prick is going to help the chiefs win. Alot of people think it will…. and that’s fine.
Like I’ve said before I’ll be the first one on the bandwagon, I’ll even send the dude a personal apology letter if the chiefs become winners…. Hell, if we win 4 games this year I’ll write a flowerly fanpost about how wonderful he is.
by callmesir on Sep 22, 2009 11:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No big deal if you don't like him and are critical of his methods
by all means, state your opinion. If you do, you should maintain the realistic expectation that you’ll be flamed by an overwhelming majority of fans here who won’t buy what you’re selling. If you keep coming back with counter-points, this could go on forever. Your words will be twisted and mangled, right or wrong and you’ll risk being labeled a troll. Although I disagree with most of what you’re saying, I see your points, but it’s obvious that not everybody does. Is it really worth it?
Braccae illae virides cum subucula rosea et tunica Caledonia-quam elenganter concinnatur!
by Buck'O on Sep 22, 2009 11:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
actually
you DO need a reason not to like Haley, otherwise it’s simply a juvenile “I don’t like him just because, so there.” And, you actually HAVE given your reason, he cusses and you consider him arrogant. OK, that’s fine. I just think you’re wrong. I’m not sure any of us can actually say he’s arrogant – we don’t know this, so it’s an invalid reason. As to cussing, yes, he certainly does. I say, so what? It won’t make the Chiefs lose.
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by kabrink on Sep 23, 2009 12:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If neither of us know if he's arrogant
Than neither of us are wrong… it’s not an invalid argument untill proven wrong.
by callmesir on Sep 23, 2009 12:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"It’s not an invalid argument untill proven wrong."
Seriously? So you get to make a possibly unfounded accusation about Haley that you can’t prove or have any way of proving and believe that you are right until somebody proves you wrong? What kind of backwards logic is that? “I can’t prove that I’m right but if you can’t prove me wrong then I must be right.”
Toby is in HR, which technically means he works for corporate, so he's really not a part of our family. Also, he's divorced, so he's really not a part of his family.
by Rev. Slappy on Sep 23, 2009 12:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's not unfounded....
This is the court of public opinion not of law, besides do I really need more than the 22 guys off the street comment to prove him to be an arrogant prick? espcially when it was said to a guy like brian waters, who none of us can finda reason to disrespect, few men have done more for the community, or on the field for the chiefs in the last decade.
by callmesir on Sep 23, 2009 12:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And it wasn't disrespectful of Waters to barge into his new bosses' offices without an appointment?
How well would that go over in most offices?
Toby is in HR, which technically means he works for corporate, so he's really not a part of our family. Also, he's divorced, so he's really not a part of his family.
by Rev. Slappy on Sep 23, 2009 1:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The majority of
Supervisors and managers have open door policies, and in reality…. the chiefs aren’t even that big of an organization. They probably only have a few hundred employees.
by callmesir on Sep 23, 2009 1:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You just said what we have all thought of you
Bandwagon
What makes this site so good and decent is most of us here are not fair weather fans and wait to jump on the bandwagon. You “Sir” just exposed yourself for what you are and I invite you to take it somewhere else. We may complain about a loss on Monday, but we are ready to cheer the team on for better or worse the rest of the week, Shame on you for trying to fool us any longer with your rhetoric!
Winning begins with Attitude - 2009 Chiefs 12-4
by Lanier63 on Sep 23, 2009 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Just because I'm not on haley's bandwagon...
Doesn’t mean I’m not on a chiefs fan…. read a little more closely skippy.
by callmesir on Sep 23, 2009 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You are what you are
live with it…
Winning begins with Attitude - 2009 Chiefs 12-4
by Lanier63 on Sep 23, 2009 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There no reason to be an asshole just because someone doesn't like Haley
I though you were better than that Lanier, i really did.
Don't Fuccop Succop
by chicks_love_chiefs on Sep 23, 2009 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why am I an asshole for exposing a person through their own words?
I didnt write his posts.
Winning begins with Attitude - 2009 Chiefs 12-4
by Lanier63 on Sep 23, 2009 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The guy doesn't have to love Haley...
Everyone acts like hes can do no wrong. Haley screwed up the Raiders game, he said so himself. The guy is far from perfect, he’s said so himself. Theres no need to be a fucking prick to someone that doesn’t like Haley. Period. Haley has lost all 6 games he’s coached the Chiefs, so to not be thrilled with his perormance isn’t completely out of line.
Don't Fuccop Succop
by chicks_love_chiefs on Sep 23, 2009 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Relax everyone
No need to call anyone a fucking prick either.
D-Bowe, Mark Bradley, Bobby Engram and Turtle. Four Chiefs WRers. 4 Pro Bowlers.
by Patrick Allen on Sep 23, 2009 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Big difference between not liking Haley and just being argumentative for argument's sake.
I’d call it “rhetoric,” only he hasn’t distinguished between supposition and fact. You can’t reason from an unsupported fact to any kind of conclusion if there isn’t agreement on the facts in the first place.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
by hmills110 on Sep 23, 2009 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're an asshole
Because you didn’t expose anything you’re trying to make something that’s not there… by taking whatever conclusions you want. I was clearly refferring to the HALEY bandwagon… the chiefs and the Haley bandwagon are two entirely different things.
by callmesir on Sep 23, 2009 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also no reason to call someone an asshole.
I don’t agree with you Callmesir. I don’t agree with your reasons for not beign a fan of Haley but they are your reasons and you are entitled to them.
No reason for you to be called a fair weather fan.
We are all ont he same side.
D-Bowe, Mark Bradley, Bobby Engram and Turtle. Four Chiefs WRers. 4 Pro Bowlers.
by Patrick Allen on Sep 23, 2009 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its ok Patrick
First I have been called worse, second I didnt attack anyone personally. :)
Winning begins with Attitude - 2009 Chiefs 12-4
by Lanier63 on Sep 23, 2009 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you must be reading another thread if
you honestly believe that you didn’t attack me personally
by callmesir on Sep 23, 2009 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Troll
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
by hmills110 on Sep 23, 2009 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I understand what you tryin to say
an I’ma let you finish but “Here Comes the Champ” was one of the greatest Trolls of ALL TIME!
D-Bowe, Mark Bradley, Bobby Engram and Turtle. Four Chiefs WRers. 4 Pro Bowlers.
by Patrick Allen on Sep 23, 2009 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who?

RIP Bodhi - Not tragic to die doing what you love. You want the ultimate thrill, you gotta be willing to pay the ultimate price.
by craig in calgary on Sep 23, 2009 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
thank you Lanier
and reced
Len Dawson:
"Lamar Hunt had a dream and, the thing is, we had dreams, too. Just imagine the number of people that he has touched because he said, 'I'm going after this dream."'
by smokin iowa chief on Sep 23, 2009 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, we're not saying...
… that being an arrogant prick is OK, although we all forgive you and accept you for what you are. :o)
I don’t know where or how you grew up, but Haley talks my talk, isn’t afraid to call someone out, and isn’t afraid to take the blame when things go wrong. That’s the way I was raised to think men SHOULD act.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
by hmills110 on Sep 23, 2009 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow
so the Chiefs suck horribly BECAUSE of Haley?? If they don’t win the first two games it’s because of Haley? If they go winless as you believe then Haley certainly deserves blame. But, not now, not yet – that’s ridiculous. That just means you are completely ignoring the last 3 years of pure suckage that Herm put us in. Haley, nor anyone else, can pull out of that tailspin in 2 FUCKING (oops, sorry) games.
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by kabrink on Sep 22, 2009 11:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
another person
taking ideas and expounding on them. The chiefs Don’t suck solely because of Haley, But I don’t think Haley will be able to take them out of the realm of suckitude. But I sure hope he does
I don’t wish for him to fail, because it means the chiefs fail. I’m just positive he will.
by callmesir on Sep 22, 2009 11:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m just positive he will.
…because he cusses.
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by kabrink on Sep 23, 2009 12:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lets take a look at what you just said
Proved = to show (oneself) to have the character or ability expected of one, esp. through one’s actions.
Which means he has to have a chance to do that. 2 games is not a fair chance to draw a conclusion.
Winning begins with Attitude - 2009 Chiefs 12-4
by Lanier63 on Sep 23, 2009 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Poor virgin ears
I’m sure Todd Haley has ruined your kids. I mean where else would they hear works like uck, ball$ ,cck, a$$, $hit, dumb $hit, taint, or ones like c u next tuesday, or felch job? Definately not from the kids they go to school with TV or society in general.
by Trapped in Donkeyland on Sep 23, 2009 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great post......
Nice sarcastic approach to the whole thing, you’ve got a great sense of humor and a good outlook on the situation.
Herm didn't play to win the game, he coached to keep the pressure off of himself
by ChiefsFootSoldier on Sep 22, 2009 7:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I wonder if Callmesir has every played any organized sports.
And I don’t intend for that to sound sarcastic or mean, but sports practices are famous for being full or swearing. Coaches yell. Apparently you resent being yelled at. Football is an intense, violent game and the guys who coach it have got to be intense, if they aren’t they are being irresponsible with the safety of their players.
And the day Haley filters himself because he is afraid his saying “fuck” might be seen by a television camera and offend somebody at home is the day he should be immediately fired.
Prediction: somewhere on this thread callmesir will say “coaches get too much credit for wins and too much blame for losses” if he hasn’t said it already. If you don’t think coaching is vital look no further than the Chargers, a team that is loaded and horribly coached by the hapless Norv Turner.
Toby is in HR, which technically means he works for corporate, so he's really not a part of our family. Also, he's divorced, so he's really not a part of his family.
by Rev. Slappy on Sep 22, 2009 7:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm not going to present a resume...
but, yeah I played organized sports the whole time I was growing up, I played football, wrestled and baseball, I was offered scholarships by several small schools to play baseball but ultimately when to school at george washington in DC which unfortunately doesn’t have football, and I never tried out for baseball because I was goig through a pretty intese cellular and molecular biology program. No I didn’t respond well to people cussing me out, as most, reasonably intellegent people don’t.
And like I’ve said before…. coaches get too much credit for wins and too much blame for losses… ha… and I’ve also said that coaches can fuck up a team, but they can’t take a team devoid of talent and make them really good.
You absoloutely meant to take a pot shot at me, and that’s fine, it’s an internet board… who gives a crap if you want to question me. but I still support my original statement that people more often than not aren’t motivated by crap like that.
by callmesir on Sep 22, 2009 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It is a weeding process
As military men, Why do Drill instructors curse, abuse, and humiliate recruits that have volunteered to serve? Answer, to find out if said recruit is able to handle the job. Many volunteer and some have no ability to handle the initial abuse and are weeded out. No reason to keep people that will fail when the pressure gets much, much more intense. The top service groups, Seals, Green Berets, Marines, and others weed out the proven elite to get the Best of the Best. I am in NO way saying being a Pro football player is equivalant to that, just that some coaches use that weeding process to find Mentally tough, Strong in spirit, and people that can take an assigned task and perform it to the best of their ability.
The ones that realize all the yelling is not personal, just trying to find the hot-heads that don’t want to learn a NEW way, are the keepers. As was stated earlier this is a Building year and the weeding is not done, IMO that the yelling will tone down when the right 53 are doing the job in the right way
Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying
by Steve_Chiefs on Sep 22, 2009 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
With you 100%
If that grown-ass man on the field can’t take some swear words thrown at his way cause he screwed up, he shouldn’t be playing. Take your ass chewing and move on.
And as a military man myself, I certainly didn’t tell my DS “please don’t say that to me” when he called me a “piece of shit fucking private”. That’s just how he is. If I wanna cry and run away, then I don’t belong there. Because in the heat of the moment when I’m taking incoming, someone can’t be worried about saying “move your stupid fucking ass!!!” cause it might offend me.
To dislike someone because they swear is just…nonsensical.
Penn State to Kansas City...Always a winning combination.
by YNinja on Sep 22, 2009 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed....
I went through a very harsh, physically and mentally demanding 14 weeks of Marine Corps bootcamp back in 1984, and there were a TON of f-bombs and screaming done by our drill instructors. It was meant to break you down, humiliate you to the point that you would no longer have any ego, and would let go of all bad habits so that you could be built back up into a Marine capable of being the best of the best. Around the world, the Marine Corps is know as one of, if not the most professional military organizations in the world, steeped in pride and tradition. So Haley using f-bombs isn’t going to turn the Chiefs into the most professional NFL team by itself, but neither is it going to make it the most unprofessional. If you work in an office, probably not a good idea to challenge and motivate employees and co-workers that way. If you work in a profession such as the military or sports, and yes, I did say profession, where somebody is out to rip your heart out and stomp on it, so you better become one tough s.o.b. then it can and is a great way to take away somebody’s cockiness and break them down to where they can be taught the right way. The argument of callmesir that is is unnecessary and unprofessional can be taken in the context of one who’s life, limb or job never depended on him being bigger, meaner, tougher, and faster than the guy or guys opposing him. Enough said.
By the way, I loved this post!!!
by big_Scott on Sep 22, 2009 11:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Again, football isn't the military
I served in the Army, I was in Iraq, Out of all of the posters here, I’m probably one of the few that was directly responsible for other people’s lives. I get it, I understand. you’re taking a civilian and trying to make him into a professional soldier. In football, these men have already been indocrinated. They’ve played football their whole lives, They get it. I never had to yell at or berate another soldier once in my entire career, all that does is make them resent you. I supported the idea of Haley inactivating Charles, he was obviously in need of some retraining.
by callmesir on Sep 22, 2009 11:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
While I understand football isn't the military
I am saying they both have similar ways of motivation and preparation. I too was in combat, twice. First with the Marines in Desert Storm in 1991, then went to Iraq as part of Operation Iraqi Freedom with the Army from 2003 to 2004. I spent 8 years as a Marine and got out in 1992 and joined the Army after 9/11 and have been a soldier for 7 years now. I have 15 years combined service in 2 combat zones, and when necessary, you yell or scream to get your point across to your men. Most of the time you don’t have to, because most of the yelling and screaming done in boot camp has ingrained in them how to react, but refreshers do need to be done now and again. Gunther Cunningham did 2 different stints with the Chiefs, and he dropped more f-bombs than any coach I know. The first time around, it seemed to have worked, as the Chiefs defense was awesome for the better part of a decade. The second time around, the results speak for themselves, as he no longer is a coach here, and he now does his screaming and cussing for the only team to ever go 0-16. I think you are just over-reacting to something that you just don’t like about Haley and are using the cussing and screaming deal as your outlet. I think you need to bring some ammunition to the table to back up your theory instead of just plain complaining about it, and maybe people will value your opinion more that way. Right now, you are not bringing anything to the argument. You came to the fight with an empty weapon and are going down in flames, fellow soldier. Must not have been yelled at enough to remember to load your weapon before going into battle!
by big_Scott on Sep 23, 2009 12:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gunther
He’s a real mystery. Quickie Poll:
Do you think he was good at first and failed the second time because:
1. He wasn’t really good the first time, it was really more Shottenheimer.
2. He wasn’t really good the first time, it was really just better players the first time.
3. He was good the first time, but the game simply past him by by the time he returned.
Air Cassel - approved for takeoff
by kabrink on Sep 23, 2009 12:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
1 and 2 :)
Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying
by Steve_Chiefs on Sep 23, 2009 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
4. All of the above.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
by hmills110 on Sep 23, 2009 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
5 - None of the above
I think Gunther was good the first time around because he had players that fit his schemes. He has a defensive strategy and the Chiefs players at that time fit it. I can’t answer 2 because I don’t like the “He wasnt’ really good” part of it.
I think Gunther is a good coach because if a team has the right talent, Gunther can take full advantage. But I think he’s shown he can’t rebuild a D and he can’t scheme around player weakness very well. That’s what the best coaches can do. Gunther isn’t at that level.
by Big Chief on Sep 24, 2009 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gunther also has a terrible eye for talent.
Toby is in HR, which technically means he works for corporate, so he's really not a part of our family. Also, he's divorced, so he's really not a part of his family.
by Rev. Slappy on Sep 24, 2009 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I heard a couple of interviews of Gunther leading up to DT’s HOF induction, and the guy just sounded like his heart broke when DT died. I think that spelled the end of his ability to coach football effectively. He has ways he can contribute to a staff, but man, I think he was traumatized. There’s nothing wrong with that, either. It just means he’s not cut out for being a HC or DC anymore, in all likelihood.
by burntorangehorn on Sep 25, 2009 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You pick out one piece
You see this small part of the overall argument and think I’m harping on him cussing, but it’s everything… The lack of playing experience, bringing in an attitude, his 22 guys comment, that will come back to bite him in the ass if he doesn’t win two games. Even though most people think their is a personnel upgrade this year. If he can’t win with what people think are better players, then I think it proves he’s an arrogant prick incapable of motivating players the correct way.
by callmesir on Sep 23, 2009 12:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Doesn't really matter does it?
If he wins, you eat your words. A hell of a lot of them. If he loses, you don’t get a whole lot of recognition for being outspoken against Haley, people will just slowly start leaning toward your side of the fence as they get frustrated with the losses. The “I told you so” if it comes to that will really be short lived as the public says you judged him to quick and the “wait and see” approach is the moral high road.
Stating a contrary opinion may be brave and all, but in the end it really helps no one except your own peace of mind.
I think people are picking out the cussing part of your argument because it is accepted as the culture that football is in, at least currently. Is it classy? Maybe not, but the fact is that most football players and most coaches curse. You can not watch a football game without seeing a curse word mouthed now and then.
You don’t have to like Haley, but when you express that opinion in the form of “I don’t like Haley” instead of “I don’t like Haleys play call in this situation” on a Chiefs fansite, you quickly lose credibility and the posting quickly turns to immature name calling.
In essence, I agree with what you are doing (stating your opinion), but not how you are doing it. And to all insults targeting Callmesir? Do you all let yourselves be so easily baited? Callmesir’s opinion is well known on these boards, there is no reason the hash it out over and over every time he pokes his nose out of the barracks. It just clutters up the rest of the reasonable discussion such as
You forgot Dick Curl.
My 2 cents! :p
by Lucasjr5 on Sep 23, 2009 4:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I get yelled at and berated occassionally.
And it doesn’t make me resent anyone. It makes me think “wow, I really must have fucked that up to deserve that ass chewing”. Then I call my NCO a dick (in my head!) and move on. But then again, I’m a grown-ass man. Not a coddled millionaire.
Penn State to Kansas City...Always a winning combination.
by YNinja on Sep 23, 2009 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hate to break it to you...
But people in the military are wired a little different than the rest of the world… and it’s by design.
by callmesir on Sep 23, 2009 11:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no its not
Its not by design, its through training. Nobody is born a Marine or soldier, or sailor, they are made into one through intense training. People from all walks of life and varied backgrounds decide to join the military and are transformed from civilian to warrior through a very intense period of training called “boot camp” or “basic training”. I joined the Marines and became a very good one, but I certainly wasn’t born one. I was a shy slacker who just wanted to party and smoke dope before going to basic, and had not one ounce of responsibility or leadership in me until the Marines instilled it, along with pride, sense of duty, and overwhelming sense of honor. You were or are a soldier, you should know better than to say something like that. Of course, unless you are or were an officer, than you never experienced “boot camp” so you would have no idea what I am talking about, as OCS is quite different.
Hey, at least our punter is pretty good, so we got that goin for us, right?
by big_Scott on Sep 24, 2009 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not saying it's by
Divine design… but they design training programs to turn you into a certain type of person.
by callmesir on Sep 24, 2009 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agree and disagree.
For the most part I think you’re right, but my personal experience is that a lot of the guys I went through boot with were not the “warrior” type, and absolutely refused to make the mental adjustment to do so. I hope that that came along at some point later, and that my experience was an oddity, but it drove me nuts at the time.
by Archyrr on Sep 25, 2009 3:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
excuse me?
you just said crap twice
by Trapped in Donkeyland on Sep 23, 2009 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great post, Paddy!
You and THE PARADE have done a great job stepping up while the Thorman’s have been busy the past two days.
I have to say that I feel the exact same way about everything. I could honestly give two sh*ts if he cusses at his players after they make a crucial mistake. They’re GROWN ASS MEN that get paid to play a physical sport! If they have a problem with someone calling them out after they screw up, then they’re weak players that we don’t need on the team. There are other players out there that would gladly take a few f-bombs on TV if it meant playing in the NFL and making a ridiculous amount of money. Hell, i’d let R. Kelly fart in my dinner every night if it meant making that kind of money…. what?
by Bolan21 on Sep 22, 2009 8:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
A fart in the dinner is a bit much:)
but I agree.
We have to run the gauntlet over the next few weeks, we will be better for it. Pioli is not done with the roster, he will improve it. LJ is getting ready to start whining again.
by Eric Allen on Sep 22, 2009 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
R. Kelly is nasty.
Penn State to Kansas City...Always a winning combination.
by YNinja on Sep 22, 2009 11:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ok
i read most of these posts and coach haley has a right to do whatever he wants to have succness in his eves i feel u know me as friend i am a very senetived person some dont respond to being chewd out well what haley shouild have done is u must treat everyone diffant some u can holler some need a pat on the back some seif motave this its a nice post but the bollom like is he can scram and holler as much as he wants it wont matter untaill they upgrade the talent at most posiatis
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by j-man on Sep 22, 2009 9:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
These are men who play a game on the grass, in the dirt, mud and/or snow where trash talk and cursing is all around. I seriously do not think Haley spouting a few expletive remarks will crush any of those on the team and if they do, well, we just saw their mettle.
Note too that we will always get told of/shown the negative reactions and responses while any, if not all, positive reactions and responses get left out of the picture.
I am sure the pendulum swings both ways though we are not privy to witness it.
"There are few secrets in football. So execute." ~Coach Stram
"I think it's the fans. The place is crazy. It's a good crazy, if you're Kansas City." ~Coach Schottenheimer
by Bad Medicine on Sep 22, 2009 9:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Paddy...
F@*# YES!
This message is KP approved with every fiber of my being. Screw the haters. There are very few decisions he’s made I’ve disagreed with. I’m tired of the lack of accountability put forth by the previous regime. This. Is. Right.
Rec’d. And if I could rec it again, I’d f’n do it.
"I don't know if I want to go to New York. They'll have to pay me a lot more money because I like it here in Kansas City." -- Roger Maris
by KaloPhoenix on Sep 22, 2009 10:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That said...
You forgot this:
“Damn Haley and his inability to run the LJ/Charles Wildcat EVERY PLAY OF THE GAME. Everyone knows all of our QB’s suck and we don’t have the offensive line to pass protect, so we should doubt the NFC Champion Offensive Coordinator and abandon all QB/WR hope.”
Or something like that. Again, great post. =)
"I don't know if I want to go to New York. They'll have to pay me a lot more money because I like it here in Kansas City." -- Roger Maris
by KaloPhoenix on Sep 22, 2009 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah...and you kinda forgot one more...
the “Damn you for working the Chiefs so hard in the preseason that they are now making other teams cramp up and have to leave the game. We like our Chiefs fat. Fat and lazy. And I mean Janikowski fat.”
Or…something similar to that. Seriously, I wanna know how many quarter pounders with cheese that Janikowski and Russell can down in one sitting.
Penn State to Kansas City...Always a winning combination.
by YNinja on Sep 22, 2009 11:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You one of dem funny guys, ain't you?
"Every day is an evaluation and if you’re not out there how can we depend on you? If you’re out there and you don’t know what to do, how can we depend on you?" Accountability -- Haley-style...
by Chief_Elmo on Sep 23, 2009 6:34 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Why do people insist Jamaal Charles has this huge fumbling problem? It’s vastly overblown. Compare him to Steve Slaton, who has three in 26 carries on the 2009 season.
by burntorangehorn on Sep 23, 2009 8:13 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
For that matter, Savage put a one or three on the ground in preseason, and quite a few in practice.
I think it was more for the all-around qualities of Savage. Won’t win a straight-line foot race with Charles, but for 10 yards, his quickness is comparable, he can catch the ball on the move (maybe better than Charles), AND he can run between the tackles and make more yards after contact.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
by hmills110 on Sep 23, 2009 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damn Haley
Damn him for:
F-ing up goal line thus costing the team the game losing points.
Firing an OC who’s ego allowed him to turn a sow’s ear into a silk.
Alienating veteran leadership day one.
Playing little league mind games with Bowe and DJ and not getting JACKSHIT more out of them than they have always produced.
Benching one of two o-weapons in J Charles to play Savage a guy not fit for Canadian football.
And finally just being an arrogant incompetent a-hole
by FrankPitts on Sep 23, 2009 10:09 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Your only valid point is the first
Firing an OC who’s ego allowed him to turn a sow’s ear into a silk.
We don’t know how this will work out. I do know that Haley is the coach and was hired to do what he thinks is best for the team. There is no way to prove that Chan Gailey would do any more for this offense than Haley will. And don’t throw The Arrowspread at me as an excuse for how brilliant Chan Gailey is. New regime with new idea. They ddidn’t HAVE to keep Gailey in the first place and inthe end, they didn’t.
Alienating veteran leadership day one.
How so? By letting Brian Waters know who is in charge of the team? As far as I can tell Brian Waters threw a little bitch fit, got over it and is still playing t a pretty high level. Also, he isn’t running his mouth. He is showing up and playing. Brian Waters is now doing what he is supposed to be doing; his job.
Playing little league mind games with Bowe and DJ and not getting JACKSHIT more out of them than they have always produced.
Little League mind games? Says who? Generally employees who do a bad job get repremanded. Those who do a terrible job after being warned get fired. As for the players not procing anymore than usual…we will see how the rest of the season goes but right now D-Bowe hasn’t dropped a ball and DJ has had the two most consistant games he has ever had as a Chief. So right now it looks like you are wrong.
Benching one of two o-weapons in J Charles to play Savage a guy not fit for Canadian football.
Yeah. Except for the fact that Savage performed at a high level in place of Charles…Charles who usually follows up the few good runs he has had with a fumble. Give me a breakon Chrles. Potential doesn’t mean shit if you can’t hold on to the ball and don’t get it done on the field. Prsumably Todd Haley knows a little bit more about football and both these athletes than you do. If Savage went out their and layed an egg it might be a different story. You can’t fault a guy for playing a guy who does well. Then again, maybe you have been watching too much Canadian Football.
And finally just being an arrogant incompetent a-hole
Absurd statment. Have you ever met Todd Haley? I have heard him described as level headed, thoughtful and passionate. From both his GM and former players. As for him being incompetent, he must have some ability to coordinate an offense to the Super Bowl and have them nearly beat the best defense in the league.
The only thing that is little league is your arguments and their lack of substance and evidence. You think Haley is arrogant for telling Brian Waters he didn’t have time to meet with him because as a vet and a leader? That he showed disrespect to Waters? How about the disrespect Waters showed showing up demanding a meeting and then bitching to a reported about wanting a trade. I know everytime my boss gives me some shit I run to a reporter and cry about it. I do that to show my great leadership.
Give me a break.
D-Bowe, Mark Bradley, Bobby Engram and Turtle. Four Chiefs WRers. 4 Pro Bowlers.
by Patrick Allen on Sep 23, 2009 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
This point hasn't been given NEARLY enough attention.
How about the disrespect Waters showed showing up demanding a meeting and then bitching to a reporte® about wanting a trade.
We all know who the reporter was, and we know that Waters did NOT confirm that reporter’s claims, when asked straight up about it. Waters tried to pull rank as a respected veteran, and was treated (probably) the same as any other player who wanted to tell Haley how things were going to go. If Haley had folded, he would have ZERO control of this team. The players would walk all over him.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
by hmills110 on Sep 23, 2009 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
See: Denver
They might be 2-0, but I don’t think any of us envy their position.
"I don't know if I want to go to New York. They'll have to pay me a lot more money because I like it here in Kansas City." -- Roger Maris
by KaloPhoenix on Sep 23, 2009 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh really
let see we have a denfense we know how to play close and we have better game mangent
okay i have cereal palsy arhrtis and chronic fatiue as well i have a grea life loveing folks some days are better that other days i got a make a wish in 2001 saw my favorive team the broncos was the trip of the lifetime i wish everyone couild gotten to enjoy that with me i know some of u hate the broncos and that ok but i bleed organ and bule
by j-man on Sep 23, 2009 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+100
Len Dawson:
"Lamar Hunt had a dream and, the thing is, we had dreams, too. Just imagine the number of people that he has touched because he said, 'I'm going after this dream."'
by smokin iowa chief on Sep 23, 2009 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Charles usually follows up good runs with a fumble?
So you’re saying he only had good runs twice all year, then?
by burntorangehorn on Sep 23, 2009 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damn Haley!
Great post! Too many whiners looking for instant gratification and not realizing how hard it is to build a team decimated by years of mistakes.
by chief66 on Sep 23, 2009 10:46 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Haley is the coach
live with it. There are a boatload of other teams to follow if you don’t like this one. St. Louis is not that far away.
by stram#1 on Sep 23, 2009 11:59 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
THANK YOU DAMN IT!
Paddy – thank you for helping all of us keep our 0&2 record in perspective! With all the crap out there about our Chiefs – your post was sorely needed!
THANKS DAMN IT!
by DieHardKC63 on Sep 23, 2009 12:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks man
Unfortunately it is likely to get worse before it gets better. I lvoe the improvment the team showed against the Raiders but they very well may take a step back against the Eagles. Even if they do not take a step back it may APPEAR that the team is taking a step back due to the talents of their opponent. Hopefully the team will put things together more rapidly and steal a win from one of these NFC East teams.
I keep thinking back to the year Marty took over the Redskins and they started off 0-8. The team then finally bought in to Marty and they finished the season 5-3. Snyder, being the moron that he is, fired Marty. Marty is a very good coach and I think he can get just about any team winning. His failures in the playoffs aside, he is a great coach.
But it doesn’t happen over night. I have no idea if Haley will go on to be a great coach. All I know is that I like what I see, I like his no nonsense attitute, his work ethic and that he isn’t going to turn the team around in 2 games.
D-Bowe, Mark Bradley, Bobby Engram and Turtle. Four Chiefs WRers. 4 Pro Bowlers.
by Patrick Allen on Sep 23, 2009 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm just going off the top of my head here, I should look this up first...
I think the Skins started 0-5, finished 8-8 and barely missed the playoffs. This is all jumbled in my feeble brain, but it seemed to me they lost a game on some fluke play that would have left them 9-7 and in the playoffs after starting 0-5.
I also remember Bruce Smith and Deion Sanders bitching and whining about Marty being too hard on them
My real suspicion about the Haley haters is they are people who have some weird aversion to being called out when they fuck up. Or they never played sports. Or both.
Toby is in HR, which technically means he works for corporate, so he's really not a part of our family. Also, he's divorced, so he's really not a part of his family.
by Rev. Slappy on Sep 23, 2009 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, 2001 Marty's Skins were 8-8.
And Dan Snyder is a bad fantasy league player with enough cash to own a team.
Toby is in HR, which technically means he works for corporate, so he's really not a part of our family. Also, he's divorced, so he's really not a part of his family.
by Rev. Slappy on Sep 23, 2009 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow
that makes it even worse. What a moron! Dan Snyder should give me all his money.
D-Bowe, Mark Bradley, Bobby Engram and Turtle. Four Chiefs WRers. 4 Pro Bowlers.
by Patrick Allen on Sep 23, 2009 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Marty maybe DID push the big men too hard.
There’s a difference between brutal conditioning, meant to strengthen and build a guy up, and staying on the field an extra 2 hours until 1 or 2 guys finally get something right. Haley’s BIG on the former, but I’ve RARELY heard of instances where things ran longer than scheduled. Maybe a couple times in camp.
I think in Haley’s case, the team will be peaking in December. In Marty’s case, his big men were just about done by the end of November.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
by hmills110 on Sep 23, 2009 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't want to kiss your ass
but I rec’d it anyway. Too awesome.
by TheQ on Sep 23, 2009 1:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
couldnt have said it better
great job i think there should be damn Haley t-shirts
by Bleedzredngold on Sep 23, 2009 10:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'd buy one.
"The reason women don't play football is because eleven of them would never wear the same outfit in public."
~Phyllis Diller
by Cheiffanbymarriage on Sep 23, 2009 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great Work
Good job thanks for sharing this with us.
by harleyrydyr on Sep 24, 2009 10:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Damn Haley for shitty play calling vs. the Eagles
Outcoached…..again.
Don't Fuccop Succop
by chicks_love_chiefs on Sep 27, 2009 7:48 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I was thinking about making this very comment myself
I’ll rec you for it
Braccae illae virides cum subucula rosea et tunica Caledonia-quam elenganter concinnatur!
by Buck'O on Sep 27, 2009 7:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I un rec it you are back to zero in my mind
We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09
And Succop will be the Key in two of them.
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram
by Steve_Chiefs on Sep 27, 2009 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're right...Haley is a GREAT coach...and he called a GREAT game today...
Haley really had this team ready to play today. This Haley lead team showed so much heart out there today. Today, I consider myself…the luckiest fan on the face of the earth.
Common Simpson, Haley looked like a shitty coach today…admit it.
Don't Fuccop Succop
by chicks_love_chiefs on Sep 27, 2009 9:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He was a coach that was beaten by better talent on a foreign field
Did I say that he called the right plays to ATTEMPT to win an unwinnable game.
NO, he called plays to try to make his team better for next week. Throwing out the playbook was not going to change the outcome other than the final score might have been 49 – 7 or 56 – 7. being beaten is one thing the final score to me was not embarassing cause we managed to stop them scoring by stopping the struggle.
Kind of like suffocation. How much of a point do you need to make to your own team?
Now, Haley was not Crazy on the sidelines like last week. Is that a good thing? Or now he doesn’t care because he isn’t yelling at his players. Seems like Haley can’t win with soom people no matter what he does. I’m with Haley, you cna’t please anybody so do what you have to do, it is his Butt on the line
We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09
And Succop will be the Key in two of them.
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram
by Steve_Chiefs on Sep 27, 2009 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
delusional
You guys are delusional if you think this team has the talent to hang with the Eagles. They’re gone through their rebuilding and are at their peak while we just started rebuilding. No coach would have led this team to win over the Eagles. But wait 2 years and the positions will be reversed.
by ZakInOmaha on Sep 29, 2009 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

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