Kansas City Chiefs Still Carrying Four Quarterbacks

by Joel Thorman on Sep 17, 2009 9:14 AM CDT in 2009 Campaign Comment 42 comments

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Matt Gutierrez is one of the four quarterbacks the Chiefs are carrying on their active roster. (AP Photo/Orlin Wagner)

The Kansas City Chiefs continue to carry four quarterbacks on the active roster heading into this weekend's game against the Oakland Raiders.

My thinking on this, along with quite a few others, is that the Chiefs will go down to three quarterbacks once they're assured that Matt Cassel is fully healed from his MCL sprain. Most of us expect him to play this weekend but we also expected that last weekend and he was listed as inactive about 90 minutes before the game.

Brodie Croyle started in Cassel's absence last week so I would imagine if/when the Chiefs chop the depth chart, it will be Tyler Thigpen or Matt Gutierrez getting the boot.

Haley seemed content with Croyle's performance last week.

"I thought that Brodie Croyle gave us a chance to win today and that’s all I ever ask of my quarterback to do," Haley told reporters following the game. "I don’t know what his numbers were and I know that at some point there it was not pretty. But he was completing the ball where he had to and most importantly he was not turning it over.

In last week's game against the Baltimore Ravens, Thigpen saw one series that included two handoffs and a quarterback draw.

"I told him to be ready – there were situations where I had a play for him," Haley said. "But I only got to put him in there once but it’s just the way the game went. There were a lot of different variables in the plan for him that I don’t necessarily want to get into. The game really dictated it."

That leaves Matt Gutierrez who was the emergency third quarterback. He only saw mop-up duty in the preseason games.

It sounds to me as if Haley might have specific plans for putting Thigpen onto the field. I'm not sure if that means he doesn't intend to keep him as a true backup quarterback or not.

It appears they'll keep four quarterbacks for the time being. If the Chiefs are intent on signing another player, we'll continue to monitor the quarterback status.

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good post

I believe Thigpen will be our Michael Vick. They will use him in tricky plays. I believe they wanted to pull one out against Baltimore but didn’t get the chance.

by krayfish on Sep 17, 2009 9:29 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

WOW

Talk about Apples to Oranges!

Didnt know Thiggy had 4.25 speed… Didnt know Thiggy had a CANNON for a right arm…

Just one guys thoughts tho! :)

by flyin_squirl on Sep 17, 2009 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Also Thiggs doesn't beat and electrocute puppies ;)

Don't Fuccop Succop

by chicks_love_chiefs on Sep 17, 2009 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hope

But he does kill your hope :)

by flyin_squirl on Sep 17, 2009 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

vick has no 4.25 speed and

he may have a cannon but it isn’t the most accurate cannon

by BIG_CHIEF18 on Sep 17, 2009 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Combine

Vick ran a 4.36 at his rookie minicamp. He was clocked at 4.33 in college. He has an unofficial time of 4.25 for his faster recorded… Thiggy couldn’t run a 4.25 30-yard dash…

I know Vick isn’t as fast as he once was but be real. He could out run Thigpen with a gimpy leg.

As far as his inaccurate cannon… I’m sorry did Thigpen get accurate over night? His completion % was good for 30th last year in the NFL!

Don’t get me wrong I like Thigpen but comparing him to Vick is not even close!

by flyin_squirl on Sep 17, 2009 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i'm not comparing vick to thigpen

but yeah he was drafted 8 years ago…although he still is probably blazing fast, definitley not 4.36 speed. they are both inaccurate qbs in my opinion. the only reason vick made it to the pro bowl is because of his wheels and popularity

by BIG_CHIEF18 on Sep 17, 2009 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Thigpen

Oh and according to Coastal Carolina Thigpen ran a 4.78 40 time… WOW Sure is Vick!

by flyin_squirl on Sep 17, 2009 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i don't think anybody is confusing Thigpen to Vick

just that he could be used in a similar fashion.

by BIG_CHIEF18 on Sep 17, 2009 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

That is the first post on this PAGE!!!

I am replying to the post written up top.

Did I miss something or is “I believe Thigpen will be our Michael Vick.” not comparing Thigpen to Vick?

by flyin_squirl on Sep 17, 2009 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don't take that as comparing the 2 players

by BIG_CHIEF18 on Sep 17, 2009 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Plays

If you want to use Thigpen like the Eagles will use Vick then you have to think that he holds the same traits.

Vick will be more effective out of the Wildcat because he has RB speed. Thigpen will only be effective in the Wildcat if we use him to pass because he has TE speed.

So you cant say he can be out Vick unless you feel that he can pull off the same plays as Vick.

But that is just my opinion.

Its the same when people say Long will be our Welker… Arent they saying that because they think he has Welker Skills?

by flyin_squirl on Sep 17, 2009 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i hope

nobody here thinks thigpen has the same skills as vick. i just took it as used in the same role.

by BIG_CHIEF18 on Sep 17, 2009 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i took it as we will use him like vick will be used this year

by BIG_CHIEF18 on Sep 17, 2009 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Plays

Just out of curiosity… What plays are you thinking? The QB draw like we ran the other day? I think thats cool but its like when LJ is in over Charles… We are limited in the plays we run. DC figure that out real quick.

by flyin_squirl on Sep 17, 2009 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i would imagine it would be some sort

of wildcat like plays or lined up at wr to throw the D off a little. i’m not todd haley but i do think they will use him on occasion in a role LIKE Vicke or pat white

by BIG_CHIEF18 on Sep 17, 2009 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I believe Thigpen will be our Michael Vick. I believe Lance Long will be our Wes Welker.

I believe tired and inaccurate player comparisons will rule Raider week.

"What?!?! I aint no Obama for the weed!"
-Turk McBride

by HIV 2 Elway on Sep 17, 2009 9:32 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

+1

by flyin_squirl on Sep 17, 2009 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Dear God.

Please let Matt Cassel play well this week. Win-lose-or draw I need a good strong performance from our new pivot. I’m afraid that AP will blow up with “Brodie Croyle for president” and “Brodie is da man” and “BRODIE RULEZ” posts.

Thank you.
Craig.

RIP Bodhi - Not tragic to die doing what you love. You want the ultimate thrill, you gotta be willing to pay the ultimate price.

by craig in calgary on Sep 17, 2009 9:43 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs

huh?

he’s our Pivot? do you mean Pilot?

by TDubb on Sep 17, 2009 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Maybe that's just a Canadian term for QB

RIP Bodhi - Not tragic to die doing what you love. You want the ultimate thrill, you gotta be willing to pay the ultimate price.

by craig in calgary on Sep 17, 2009 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I knew what you meant!!

by saskwatch on Sep 17, 2009 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

rec on that one craig

Brodie puts together 1 good drive out of the whole game, and now he is the man.

Herm is gone things are better with that one move!!

by bringbacktheglory on Sep 17, 2009 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

What Does It Take?

I’m not a huge Brodie fan, but I admit he’s got talent. He has a good game, with a 116 QB rating, and you all still don’t give the man any respect. For the love of God, I hope we trade Croyle so he can go somewhere he’s appreciated…

Put this in your pipe and smoke it:
1. Chiefs will be at least 8-8 and vie for division champs
2. DJ will break out and finally have his year
3. LJ returns to form
4. DBowe drops will reduce

by kcchiefsfan72 on Sep 17, 2009 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

This guy's been a complete dissapointment his entire career in KC

Still the kid obviously has some talent, but you can’t expect Chiefs fans to give him full respect for 1 game….that he lost. (what is he 0-10 now as a starter? win a game then maybe he’ll get a little respect.)

Don't Fuccop Succop

by chicks_love_chiefs on Sep 17, 2009 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

everybody was all in love with thigpen

last year and how many games did he win?

by BIG_CHIEF18 on Sep 17, 2009 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

How maybe people are in love with him this year?

I’m just saying Brodie represents a bad ear in KC, and era fans won’t soon forget

Don't Fuccop Succop

by chicks_love_chiefs on Sep 17, 2009 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

but...

the guy has been hurt more than not

by BIG_CHIEF18 on Sep 17, 2009 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

My point exactly

Don't Fuccop Succop

by chicks_love_chiefs on Sep 17, 2009 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm Not Saying

Jump on a Brodie-wagon. I’m just saying that everybody is still shatting on him and not admitting he had a good game. At least give the guy props for last week’s game, that’s all I was saying. And you Chicks, you can’t put that " L " on his head.

Put this in your pipe and smoke it:
1. Chiefs will be at least 8-8 and vie for division champs
2. DJ will break out and finally have his year
3. LJ returns to form
4. DBowe drops will reduce

by kcchiefsfan72 on Sep 17, 2009 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

My bet is that Thigpen is traded

as soon as Cassel is healthy and we identify someone worthy of going to the 53 man roster. 4 QB’s won’t last much longer. Somebody will have a QB go down (hopefully not us) and we have someone with starting experience for the price of a lower round draft pick.

I remember Dawson to Taylor, Kenney to Carson, and Blackledge catching the snap in his facemask. Seen it all...

by BinSC on Sep 17, 2009 10:06 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I'd be surprised

if anyone gives up a pick for Thigpen after his performance this preseason. That 5th round offer from Jax quickly dissapated.

by Tito42 on Sep 17, 2009 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

You get more desperate

if you lose a starter to injury. Wouldn’t expect more than a 7th I’m sure. Should have jumped on the 5th rounder.

I remember Dawson to Taylor, Kenney to Carson, and Blackledge catching the snap in his facemask. Seen it all...

by BinSC on Sep 17, 2009 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i don't think

we should trade him….definitley not for a 5th to 7th round pick. Given the time to put in the right plays i think he could be a good weapon for the offense

by BIG_CHIEF18 on Sep 17, 2009 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'd be comfortable

With a flat-out release. I prefer the 6’ 4" and above pocket passers that Pioli/Haley have brought in to the organization thus far.

by Tito42 on Sep 17, 2009 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i'm not sayin

to use him at QB full time but he would be more dangerous in say a wildcat playbook or a play in the slot where he could step back catch a lateral and either run or throw. He is just not being used right now because it’s been one game and we couldn’t get any real solid drives with the regular offense on the field

by BIG_CHIEF18 on Sep 17, 2009 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Gimmick

If that is all Tyler has become then he sounds expendable

"There are few secrets in football. So execute." ~Coach Stram
"I think it's the fans. The place is crazy. It's a good crazy, if you're Kansas City." ~Coach Schottenheimer

by Bad Medicine on Sep 17, 2009 10:43 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I think of him more as a novelty

"What?!?! I aint no Obama for the weed!"
-Turk McBride

by HIV 2 Elway on Sep 17, 2009 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

what a novel thought

"There are few secrets in football. So execute." ~Coach Stram
"I think it's the fans. The place is crazy. It's a good crazy, if you're Kansas City." ~Coach Schottenheimer

by Bad Medicine on Sep 17, 2009 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Why are we wasting a roster spot on a 4th QB

Can’t you have a QB on your PS and bring him to active during a game even if he’s not on the 53 man roster? This is a waste of a roster spot if I’m remembering correctly. Similar to last year how we were wasting one on a 3rd QB. Most teams only carry 2 QB’s, but with our injury situation, I understand having the extra, but I don’t know why we have the 4th too.

by EyePod on Sep 17, 2009 10:57 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Only Gutierrez

is eligible for the practice squad. Croyle and Thigpen are ineligible for the PS due to having started or been on the active roster for too many NFL games. Apparently they like Gutierrez enough that they don’t want to risk another team signing him off of the PS. Another reason why Thigpen is likely the cut.

by Tito42 on Sep 17, 2009 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Trade/release Thigpen

We need O line help, why waste a roster spot on a possible trick play. Let’s face it we have seen the best Thigpen has to offer, and that does not fit with the current offense. Would it be nice to have that option…Sure it would but we need a TE and O-line help and we can’t keep 4 QB’s much longer. Gut is young and will develop into this offense better than Thigpen will, He runs the offense better and the offense looks better when he is in there. I believe in time he will be Coyle’s replacement in the future without all the injury issues and may even develop into the Cassel under Brady type of back-up QB.

If Thigpen has any value now is the time to get it, but if there’s no interest in him than release him and bring in players for the positions of need. We are not going to change the whole offense for one player, and the one time they put him in as a wildcat option the whole offense looked lost and confused. To be honest I don’t see why the same type of play can not be run using either Croye or Gut. But then again I’m not a High paid professional football coach. I like to think they know more than we do at this point.

is it me? or isn't about time the Lamar Hunt trophy belonged to His team?

I’m a Chiefs fan Dammit and I’m damn proud of it!

by KC Fanatic on Sep 17, 2009 1:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs