Chiefs S Jarrad Page Back on the First Team in Latest Depth Chart
by Joel Thorman on Sep 15, 2009 10:17 AM CDT
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PrintThe Kansas City Chiefs have released this week's depth chart for the home opener against the Oakland Raiders. There were only a few changes with the only real notable coming at free safety.
Jarrad Page back on the first team
Page returns to the first team after a two week hiatus. He replaced Jon McGraw.
This is encouraging to hear, particularly before the Raiders game. Page should just be known as the Raider killer.
He's had a few endzone interceptions against the Raiders in his two year career. This is good news.
Jamaal Charles to the second team
Charles saw plenty of action on Sunday so this is more of a formality than anything. Previously, Jackie Battle was listed as the No. 2 back behind Larry Johnson.
Now, the rotation goes LJ, Charles, Battle and Dantrell Savage.
Make the jump for changes to the return men, defensive backs and other notables.
Returners are shuffled
Here's how the depth chart of punt returners shook out last week: Savage, Lawrence, Leggett
And this week: Leggett, Engram, Lawrence, Savage
Kick returners didn't see a significant change - Charles is still the No. 1 while Lawrence jumped ahead of Savage.
Leggett to second team cornerback
Another example of why this depth chart doesn't necessarily mean a whole lot. Donald Washington was listed as the No. 2 corner behind starter Brandon Flowers last week. But, with Flowers inactive, Leggett saw most of the action.
Now, Leggett is listed as the No. 2 corner. We're expecting Flowers to be ready.
Other notables
- WR Bobby Wade isn't listed since the move wasn't official with the league at the time
- LB Derrick Johnson is still on the third team
- No change at right tackle (Ndukwe, O'Callaghan)
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Before last week
He said his shoulder was fine and that he would play. A guess, more than anything, on my part….I thought he would be ready last week.
by Joel Thorman on Sep 15, 2009 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions
I've given up even guessing
on injury reports and depth charts. They mean nothing now.
by NJ Chiefs Fan on Sep 15, 2009 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions
I hope your guess is correct Joel. Would be nice to have Flowers back.
Yeah, let's just keep matriculatin' the ball down the field, boys! ...
by oldchiefsfan on Sep 15, 2009 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions
Well Flowes
Was expecting play Sunday, and by the Raiders game he will have had nearly a month of down time, so he should be back in action
by Scaryclouds on Sep 15, 2009 10:32 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Who's a better run stopper
DJ or Demorrio? Oakland is going to run often and early. I assume hope Corey Mays is going to have a bounce back game and shouldn’t have to drop back into coverage with Jamarcus “passing”
And so, Craig finds himself leaping from blog to blog, striving to put right what once went wrong, and hoping each time that his next leap, will be the leap home.
by craig in calgary on Sep 15, 2009 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions
Well, from watching the game last night
The Raiders ran ALL over the Chargers in the 1st quarter and a little bit in the second…but the second half they either got tired or SD had figured out what to change. Either way, from watching how the Raiders played last night it looks like it will be a tough game…
by Wrestler189s on Sep 15, 2009 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions
DJ is clearly one of the worst LBs we have.
He couldn’t even run that INT back for a TD. He blows.
by NJ Chiefs Fan on Sep 15, 2009 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions
It's a shame he only ran it back 70 yards and set us up for a TD
Yeah, let's just keep matriculatin' the ball down the field, boys! ...
by oldchiefsfan on Sep 15, 2009 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions
In all seriousness. He did look extremly slow. It seemed like he could not extend his legs fully.
I was very suprised since he usually is very fast.
said he was fighting a hamstring injury
he’s solid.
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
Once they watch our game film, they will try to exploit our pass defense.
We know they will run but, I wouldn’t be surprised to see them get aggressive early.
If they have to beat us through the air, we will win
If they run the ball for 250 yards like they did last year we will lose terribly and will have another ugly 40 min/20 min discrepancyin time of possession. Frick, Oakland is probably a playoff team with Jeff Garcia instead of that fat moron taking snaps.
Speaking of bad draft picks, how did Heyword-Bey look last night? hahahahaha
And so, Craig finds himself leaping from blog to blog, striving to put right what once went wrong, and hoping each time that his next leap, will be the leap home.
by craig in calgary on Sep 15, 2009 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions
I can't help but think that Haley and Pendy had these big grins on their faces
as they watched the game last night.
Yeah, let's just keep matriculatin' the ball down the field, boys! ...
by oldchiefsfan on Sep 15, 2009 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions
me to, scary back there.
Yeah, let's just keep matriculatin' the ball down the field, boys! ...
by oldchiefsfan on Sep 15, 2009 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions
i'm just happy
page is starting – the more he plays the more he can prove he belongs there as our starting safety. also playing next to mike brown will do nothing but good things.
i am a little skeptical about DJ though. What else does the guy have to do to get his spot back. We all know he is better than DeMorrio- is it possible Haley is doing this because he knows DJ is capable of being a very, very, very good linebacker and just hasn’t showed it yet? So to keep him demoted will maybe force him to play better? I mean he made a HUGE int the other day – if it was my team he goes right back to the 1st string. Just my opinion.
i think
that DJ did have a nice play or two, but the interception was more a case of just being a little lucky and being in the right place, of course he did have to make the catch. but i think haley is looking for him to be out there flying around tearing it up every game and be the game changing type player he has the potential to maybe be.
also, i someone mentioned he has a slight hamstring injury; this might also be a way to allow him to heal while still being able to play, just not every D down.
I'll take a luck with a 70 yard return each game this season, please.
Cantaloupe? More like wontaloupe. Lazy ass melons.
Did we end up cutting anyone yet for the Wade addition?
"Hell yes I love my truck, but I want you to know, honey I love your love the most" - Eric Church
Nothing official yet
Yeah, let's just keep matriculatin' the ball down the field, boys! ...
by oldchiefsfan on Sep 15, 2009 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions
He is trying to get CONSISTENT play out of DJ.
He made an outstanding play but, didn’t do much the rest of the game. I am sure DJ will play a lot this week but, he’s not going to be listed as a starter until he steps up.
exactly, that's been his problem inconsistant play.
Yeah, let's just keep matriculatin' the ball down the field, boys! ...
by oldchiefsfan on Sep 15, 2009 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions
With McFadden and Bush
Our LB’s will get plenty of time to prove themselves against the run. Hopefully the likes of Tyson and Dorsey will be making some tackles for loss…
"Hell yes I love my truck, but I want you to know, honey I love your love the most" - Eric Church
I think tank as of right now is our best guy on the D-line.
I’m surprised but, it seems to be true. Dorsey and T-Jax need to step it up in a BIG way.
by Chiefsfan1970 on Sep 15, 2009 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah....Tank is earning that name.
"Hell yes I love my truck, but I want you to know, honey I love your love the most" - Eric Church
No shit
Its about time Dorsey and TJ (Especially Dorsey) start dominating the line of scrimmage. Remember the scouting report on Dorsey coming out of LSU? He was supposed to be in the backfield the entire game.
And so, Craig finds himself leaping from blog to blog, striving to put right what once went wrong, and hoping each time that his next leap, will be the leap home.
by craig in calgary on Sep 15, 2009 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions
I also think we played one of the best OL in the NFL.....
Maybe the we can do some more penetrating against the Raiders
"Hell yes I love my truck, but I want you to know, honey I love your love the most" - Eric Church
He lined up against Oher who is a rookie?
Everyone treated Dorsey with baby gloves last year because he was a rookie. Now he is a 2nd year player and he was dominated by a Rookie.
And so, Craig finds himself leaping from blog to blog, striving to put right what once went wrong, and hoping each time that his next leap, will be the leap home.
by craig in calgary on Sep 15, 2009 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions
Nevermind
Wrong side.
And so, Craig finds himself leaping from blog to blog, striving to put right what once went wrong, and hoping each time that his next leap, will be the leap home.
by craig in calgary on Sep 15, 2009 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions
I think he was matched up with that dude
Who was like 6’8 360lbs or something like that…..
"Hell yes I love my truck, but I want you to know, honey I love your love the most" - Eric Church
Oher (rookie) dominated Jackson (rookie) I don't like it.
Don't Fuccop Succop
by chicks_love_chiefs on Sep 15, 2009 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah Jackson looked stuck every play
He was locked up with his guy and didnt do anything
"Hell yes I love my truck, but I want you to know, honey I love your love the most" - Eric Church
I'm not worried about Jackson.
He’s got a ways to go but, make no mistake, he is a player. he’ll be a pro bowler within 2 years.
Better draft pick than Dorsey IMHO.
by Chiefsfan1970 on Sep 15, 2009 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions
Jackson a better pick then Dorsey?
Based off what? 0 tackles aginst a rookie RT in his first game. Dorsey had 46 tackles last year, Jackson wont come close to the season dorsey had. Also Dorsey will have more tackles then him this year. Bandwagon fans say he is a bust but the stats dont lie and they tell a very different story.
I'm talking long term. But, yeah, I think Jackson will eventually show himself to be a better pick than Dorsey.
Doesn’t matter though. If one plays like shit, they all look bad.
by Chiefsfan1970 on Sep 15, 2009 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions
How do you suggest we would have drafted Oher, since we had no pick between #3 and the 3rd round, and no onwe wanted to trade down for the #3.
we could have got him instead
i dont think jackson is a world beater like all the other lemmings,there were several choices we could have taken over jackson. Like oh i dont know a center.
by Bestofthewest on Sep 15, 2009 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions
I am officially on the Tank bandwagon.
We need a great NT to make this Defense work and, it seems as though we may have it.
by Chiefsfan1970 on Sep 15, 2009 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions
You have a 4-3 DT playing DE in a 3-4....
I would like to see him work out but you know he may not.
"Hell yes I love my truck, but I want you to know, honey I love your love the most" - Eric Church
HE IS PLAYING WELL
I don’t know what everyone is expecting to see from Dorsey, but he’s doing his job.
it’s not a flashy position, you won’t hear his name called a lot… but he’s in there doing what he’s supposed to do.
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
What's that...not getting off the line at all...
Sorry to be negative nancy about it…but from what I saw…he could not get off the line. No penatration at all. Just what is his job?
Don't Fuccop Succop
by chicks_love_chiefs on Sep 15, 2009 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions
I want what we were promised out of college.
Scouting report:
Very productive when healthy against top notch competition…extremely strong and powerful player with a great base…shows the ability to penetrate up the field…also able to hold his own against the rush…plays with good technique…versatile to fit any number of defensive schemes…was the leader and heart of a top notch National Champion defense…unable to be blocked by one man
One, if not the top, DT prospects to enter the NFL in the past 10 years, Dorsey showed the ability to dominate in the SEC when healthy. There are some concerns that he does not protect his legs adequately due to his injury history. He projects to work in any defense, but his best position would be as a three technique in the 3-4 defense as he excels when able to operate in space.
And so, Craig finds himself leaping from blog to blog, striving to put right what once went wrong, and hoping each time that his next leap, will be the leap home.
by craig in calgary on Sep 15, 2009 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions
3-4 DE
set the edge
command a double team, tie up blockers
be strong at the point of attack
allow the LB to make plays
be tough against the run
he’s doing all of those things, from what I’ve seen
he also had penetration on a couple of plays… which, I would like to see more of, but overall, he’s doing his job
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
I seriously didnt see any of that
"Hell yes I love my truck, but I want you to know, honey I love your love the most" - Eric Church
I saw Drosey getting owned by the LT, not by double team.
Really….I didn’t see much of that either. We’ll see Sunday I guess.
Don't Fuccop Succop
by chicks_love_chiefs on Sep 15, 2009 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions
he's no Dion Gales
haha
Anyway, I DID see him playing solid
but, the whole Defense wore down by the end of the Ravens game.
Their OL dominated that game
He was solid in preseason.
just don’t expect huge numbers high profile play from your 3-4 DEs…
the LB should be making the bulk of the tackles.
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
Ohhh...lol....Come on that was a low blow
His true test will be against the Raiders….if you dont get pumped up and destroy them something is wrong….
"Hell yes I love my truck, but I want you to know, honey I love your love the most" - Eric Church
I think this our problem with his play.
Watching the line, it was very easy to notice the HUGE push Tank was getting. If we got that same kind of push from Dorsey, Our LBs could get in the backfield much faster to make plays.
To put it simply, Tank is making him look bad.
by Chiefsfan1970 on Sep 15, 2009 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions
I think we can agree that Hali put forth a great effort
"Hell yes I love my truck, but I want you to know, honey I love your love the most" - Eric Church
that's true
he was going 100 mph
would like to see him get there more often…
but pressure isn’t just about sacks, it’s about hurrying the QB
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
He almost gave us the ball on that FF....
He should be sent on the edge rushing the QB more…I agree
"Hell yes I love my truck, but I want you to know, honey I love your love the most" - Eric Church
Tank was eating up DT's too which is awesome.
Just no penatration from the edges. The flying V out there.
Don't Fuccop Succop
by chicks_love_chiefs on Sep 15, 2009 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions
We have some things to be excited about though
If the NT is making two high first round picks look bad at DT. That is a good problem. The NT position is THE MOST important position in the 3-4 and Tank looks like he could become one of the better ones out there.
At the same time, I’ll agree with Stag to a degree. Dorsey does seem to be tying up some blockers and that may be what made Tyler look so good. This will be a stout D-line and the Raiders probably won’t be quite as difficult as the Ravens were.
by Chiefsfan1970 on Sep 15, 2009 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions
I'll say this Stag.
Dorsey played better than Jackson did. Jackson will need some time to learn the ropes.
I know Jackson was getting beat by Oher but, the O-line is an easier learning curve than D-line, at least that’s how I understand it.
by Chiefsfan1970 on Sep 15, 2009 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions
yeah, Jackson didn't have that good of a game
he was blocked very easily
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
pretty sure
a 4-3 DT is a lot like a 3-4 DE size wise; the OLB’s are more like the defensive end in a 4-3 in that they get most of the sacks. DE’s in a 3-4 are there to push the line back and stuff the run.
WHAT?!?!
Okay, lay off Dorsey people. He made quite a few big tackles in the run game last week. He had some at the line of scrimmage and a few when it looked like Rice was gonna bust one for a huge gain, he came out of nowhere and saved the big play. GO DORSEY! DON’T LISTEN TO THESE IDIOTS!
Yep.
He was just okay. Like I said before, Tank is making him look bad cuz he is getting a serious push up front. Once Dorsey and T-Jax catch up to tank, our front 3 will be in the backfield on every down.
by Chiefsfan1970 on Sep 15, 2009 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions
but they all counted
remember, in the 3-4 defense, the linemen don’t get the stats, the linebackers do… which they didn’t
Yep, the LBs looked like shit.
When I was talking about the D-line, I was really just talking about the push up front. My observation is that Tank is the standout of the front 3.
by Chiefsfan1970 on Sep 15, 2009 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions
Easy on the "Idiot bomb" son.
RIP Bodhi - Not tragic to die doing what you love. You want the ultimate thrill, you gotta be willing to pay the ultimate price.
by craig in calgary on Sep 15, 2009 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions
Yes, my feelings were hurt because we didn't win. : )
Yeah, let's just keep matriculatin' the ball down the field, boys! ...
by oldchiefsfan on Sep 15, 2009 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions
Well if anything we got a look at what we have out there on the field, minus Cassel and Flowers of course.
Hopefully those two will be out there Sunday. I think we’ve taken a nice step forward guys, it may be ugly now, but I think as we go they will begin to gel as a team.
Yeah, let's just keep matriculatin' the ball down the field, boys! ...
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