Is Brodie Croyle the best QB of the 06 Draft Class?
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I dont think that its a ridiculous proposition to make. First we have to look at what other quarterbacks got taken that year.
There were 11 QBs taken in the 2006 draft: Vince Young to Tennessee in the first round, Matt Leinart to Arizona in the first, Jay Cutler in the first to Denver, Kellen Clemens in the second to NYJ, Tavaris Jackson in the second to Minnesota, Charlie Whitehurst to SD in the third, Brodie Croyle to KC in the third, Ingle Martin to GB in the fifth, Omar Jacobs to Pittsburgh in the fifth, Bruce Gradkowski to TB in the sixth, and DJ Shockley in the seventh to ATL.
We can pretty much discard DJ Shockley, Ingle Martin, and Omar Jacobs as none of them are on NFL rosters any longer, and to the best of my knowledge none of them even played a snap in the NFL regular season.
Next would be Bruce Gradkowski, who started 11 games for TB his rookie season, putting up a 55% completion percentage, 1661 yds, 9 TDs and 9 INTs with a 65.9 QB rating. He then proceeded to lose the starting spot and became a journey man, getting cut from the Cleveland Browns after failing to secure a spot playing for injured Brady Quinn, Derek Anderson and Ken Dorsey. He is now in Oakland, God bless his heart.
Charlie Whitehurst has never attempted a regular season pass in the NFL, but he does have a rushing touchdown so good for him. He is now third on the depth chart for San Diego with a totally rockin hair du.
Kellen Clemens has gotten plenty of playing time since he entered the league playing for the Jets. He's played in 14 games, seeing time both a starter and behind Brett Favre, Chad Pennington and now Mark Sanchez. Over that time, he has just a 52% completion percentage and a TD/INT ratio of 5/11, which makes puppies cry. So like I said he's sitting now in NYJ.
Tavaris Jackson has actually seen a lot of playing time in Minnesota and was, as everyone knows, was involved in a QB battle with Sage Rosenfels right up until the Vikes signed Favre. Jackson has seen action in 25 games, and despite a negative ere about him, he's actually not totally sucked. Jackson has a career completion percentage of 58%, with a 20/18 TD/INT ration and a 76.4 QB rating. All that being said, I think very much of that owes itself to having the best one-two rushing punch in the NFL playing behind him with a solid o-line in front of him. Jackson's QB ratings without Adrian Peterson: 62.5 and 70.8. With AP: 95.4. Coincidence? I think not.
Then theres the enigma that is Vince Young in Tennessee. The guy has graced the cover of Madden but has failed to light the world on fire in the Music City and has also brought along some off the field issues and distractions. In his career, Young has played 33 games, starting the 15 games of both his rookie and sophomore seasons in the NFL. In that time, Young has a 57% completion percentage, a 22/32 TD/INT ratio, a 6.4 yd avg, and a 68.8 QB Rating. This is pretty average play from a Madden cover player, and he is now sitting behind Kerry Collins after a less than impressive preseason in 09.
Matt Leinart has also shown flashes in his playing time with Arizona, which amounts to 21 games, much higher than I had thought. He has only a 55% completion percentage and also sports a negative 14/17 TD/INT ratio surrounded by talent at WR. Leinart has shown progress though, but still sits behind a resurgent Kurt Warner for the reigning NFC champs, sporting a career QB rating of 80.2.
Finally is Jay Cutler, drafted by the Denver Broncos and quickly ejected out the other end quite appropriately in to Chicago. As of today, Cutler has far and away received the most playing time, with 36 games. Cutler has also been far and away been the most productive QB of the bunch and has thrown for 55 tds, compared to 41 INTs, including tonights laughable 1 TD, 4 INT performance. He's completed 62% of his passes, averaging about 7 yds and totes an 85.6 QB rating for his career. Looking at this its clear to see that at this point, Cutler has been the best but one has to wonder if the 2009 preseason and tonight's game are a harbinger of things to come. Cutler has been dumped into a situation similar to Croyle's or perhaps even worse: a team with a solid RB, meh oline and very shallow receiving corps, and so far he's performed much less than admirably there. Also he's Jay Cutler and thats lame, although he gets points for getting the hell out of Denver while the getting was good.
So then we have the legend himself, the Alabama Blacksnake, R2P2, Brokie, BroCro, Brodemus, Kelli's Husband, Vanilla Vick (as he was called by his UA teammates): Brodie Croyle. Croyle's only played in 14 games after being plagues (many would say predictably) by injury in his career. In that time he sports a sucky 56% completion percentage. Today's game broke him even in his TD/INT ratio at 8/8 after throwing 2 picks in his only appearance against Pittsburgh in the 2006 season. His rating is 71.6. MEH. Some would point out though that Croyle hasn't been substantially outperformed in the same offense with the same talent, as Huard played better coming off his hot 06 campaign and Thigpen played better in Arrowspread, though markedly worse in Croyle's own offense. It could also be noted that Croyle has shown year-to-year improvement as a QB, posting an 11.9 QB rating in 06, a 69.9 QB rating in 07, an 81.3 rating in 08, and a 116.1 as of 1 game in 09 vs Baltimore, so he is certainly trending upwards, an idea bolstered by his preseason play this year and better play calling from Haley. We would also be remiss to discount Croyle's Hot Wife Rating and Hunting Knowledgability Score, which are both almost maxed out at 10, beating the rest of the pack by a county mile.
So four years in, here's how I rank the 2006 QB class that remains in the NFL. Honestly I think its mostly completely up for grabs and interchangeable.
1. Jay Cutler
2. Tavaris Jackson
3. Brodie Croyle
4. Matt Leinart
5. Kellon Clemons
6. Vince Young
7. Charlie Whitehurst (he hasn't screwed anything up or gotten cut)
8. Bruce Gradkowski
This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Arrowhead Pride's writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Arrowhead Pride writers or editors.
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Sadly.
Sadly Cutler is way better than the rest. It was funny that he didn’t play like it tonight. If Croyle was starter and taking snaps he would get better. So far he is staying healthy which is a good sign. Jackson is overrated in my opinion.
by Chiefsfan85 on Sep 14, 2009 2:05 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
dude wtf?
aren’t you a Browns fan?
Anyways nice post, but sorry Jay Cutler is in another class compared to the rest. This talent pool seems to be a whole lot of potential that isn’t being realized.
Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.
by 808NaNz808 on Sep 14, 2009 2:25 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey thanks for reading the whole way through!
he was injured. injured bad.
by troy145 on Sep 14, 2009 2:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cutlersucker
was the only one to throw 4 picks yesterday… So yeah, he’s in a class all by himself…. teh stupid class.
by IISaiNtII on Sep 14, 2009 7:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+2....
However he’s by far the best QB in this crappy QB draft class.
Don't Fuccop Succop
by chicks_love_chiefs on Sep 14, 2009 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Croyle's career looks very similar
Next would be Bruce Gradkowski, who started 11 games for TB his rookie season, putting up a 55% completion percentage, 1661 yds, 9 TDs and 9 INTs with a 65.9 QB rating.
by Joel Thorman on Sep 14, 2009 7:53 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It Is A Ridiculous Proposition To Make
Cutler is miles above the rest of the class as a passer…especially Croyle. And he’s never been as effective a QB as Vince Young in his rookie season (although he’s stunk since then). So no, he’s nothing close to the best QB from that class. You might be able to make an argument for him for third place.
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Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
3. Maurice Carthon will be the most hated man on the Chiefs' coaching staff within two years.
4. Larry Johnson has already played his last meaningful game for the Kansas City Chiefs. He's gone before the 2009 season starts.
5. Larry Johnson will gain 0 yards rushing for the 2009 Kansas City Chiefs.
6. The Chiefs will go 7-9 in 2009, good for 2nd in the AFC West. Revision: We go 5-11 and finish behind Oakland.
7. Ryan Succop will not perform better in 2009 than Connor Barth did in 2008.
8. The Chiefs will have a bottom 10 defense this year.
9. RB will be a problem area this season on offense.
by UCrawford on Sep 14, 2009 8:11 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Thats the dumbest shit i read in a while
Croyle has never won a game in the NFL.Enough said.Did you research this in your comics? LOL!!!
by DT4LIFE on Sep 14, 2009 8:41 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Cutler and Croyle
have the same number of playoff wins.
by NJ Chiefs Fan on Sep 14, 2009 9:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha
Come on…really? Croyle and Marino are in the same class then because neither have won a Super Bowl? :)
Comparing Cutler to Croyle is no contest.
by Joel Thorman on Sep 14, 2009 9:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thats a fact
Croyle has a solid preseason and a solid week 1 and people act like he is the second coming of Joe Montana.Croyle is a scrub and a pansy he has been injured off and on since high school.Denver got a first and third round pick for Cutler.What would the chiefs get for Croyle?
by DT4LIFE on Sep 14, 2009 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
So what Croyle played a good game…He didn’t win the game for us…I was pissed watching him continuously dump the ball off to guys who were well short of the first down in clutch situations….
Comparing Croyle to the best of the draft class is so nuts..
by CALIFAN1986 on Sep 14, 2009 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brodie played a solid game yesterday.
That being said, I hope we don’t have to see him again for the rest of the season.
by Chiefsfan1970 on Sep 14, 2009 9:02 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Maybe Chicago would trade Culter for Croyle?
by saskwatch on Sep 14, 2009 10:31 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Based on yesterday's
performances: they just might! A lot of the Bears fans are probably thinking that Grossman looks pretty good this AM!
:)
by ttownmikey on Sep 14, 2009 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha I doubt it...Cutler played bad
But we all know he’s the real deal
by CALIFAN1986 on Sep 14, 2009 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure!
Maybe he is more of a product of Shanahan than what we know. He has the tools but I think he is going to go through quite a maturation process this year without Shanahans assistance.
by ttownmikey on Sep 14, 2009 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
soooo.....
do we all love Croyle now??? Last time I checked, it was the End of Days whenever he was our “best” option at QB. I’m confused, if we’ve taken the Brodie Croyle banner off of the “OMG!!! Anybody but HIM!!” Wagon and hung it on the “Is he the best of 2006 class” wagon………I would just appreciate a phone call or something…..that’s all I’m sayin….keep me in the loop.
by ill_spec on Sep 14, 2009 1:21 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
why all the man love
for Cutler? hes big and dumb. his physical tools will only get him so far, which won’t be very far. He makes piss poor decisions and piss poor decisions = piss poor QB. His career will fizzle out just like vince young
by SillyHatDay on Sep 14, 2009 1:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

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