Todd Haley Had Strong Words for Brodie Croyle Early Against the Ravens
by Chris Thorman on Sep 13, 2009 7:29 PM CDT
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Kansas City Chiefs head coach Todd Haley is known for a fiery temper on the sidelines. And today early against the Baltimore Ravens, Todd Haley had some strong words for Chiefs QB Brodie Croyle.
With 9:35 left in the first quarter, Brodie Croyle was sacked on 2nd and 9. The Ravens took a timeout....and then the Chiefs took a time out. Why? Brodie Croyle get couldn't the play called in time.
Well, that didn't make Todd Haley too happy. One series and one three and out later, Tyler Thigpen was in the game.
The sideline exchange between Croyle and Haley is after the jump (strong language FYI)
Courtesy of C.E. Wendler over at WPI.
I don't about you guys but I love this! I wonder how Herm would have handled this....
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"All praise Chiefus."
by DThomasReigns on Sep 13, 2009 7:31 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Amen
Apparently it worked too because from that point on Croyle didn’t look half bad until the last drive or two of the game. Had some passes he put right on the money and didn’t throw any picks or do anything stupid.
SNAP THE FUCKING BALL
Bask in the glory that is Kwame Harris. Poor Alex...
Amen again
Yes fellas. I can read lips. I don’t need it spelled out for me. Thanks for the heads up on the rough language Chris.
Makes me want to discourage my children (and myself) from watching any future Chiefs ball games. I may begin looking for a team with a head coach that has the ability to control his tongue (and begin looking for a blog that has a bit more control over what’s written).
Is this post really all that necessary? Just asking…
BTW, I think Croyle got the point. He looked better after the coach waxed eloquent all over his face.
The future is ours KC Chiefs fans!!!!!
N. Gift
by giftedchiefsfan on Sep 14, 2009 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions
It's not Haley's fault
the director chose to cut to a view of Haley. There is a delay when the game is broadcast and he could have switched camera angles before that shot even made it to our homes.
I have to say this.
A coach using the F word makes you want to switch teams?
But you are OK with your kids watching a game where players try to rip each others heads off, and many of the players have been associated with murder,guns, beatings and more?
Not that I think any of it is right, but of all the things about football someone using the F word is low on the list of reasons why kids should not watch a team.
Herm is gone things are better with that one move!!
by bringbacktheglory on Sep 16, 2009 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions
+1
I mean, Football is a violent game. I would say there is probably some cursing on the field, just a guess. And, um…id say 95% of coaches curse at some point. Its most likely good for your kids, they will be subjected to it at some point…you cant protect them from everything…
Chiefs FTW
...
“Snap the f——— ball” and “Jesus f———Christ” stand out to me. But I’m no lip reader.
Don't Fuccop Succop
by chicks_love_chiefs on Sep 13, 2009 7:32 PM CDT reply actions
had to follow the game from my cell phone today :(
but still – this makes me happier than that mcgraw td. i swear.
Herm
probably woulda patted him on the back for using a timeout he probably woulda wasted anyway..
by IISaiNtII on Sep 13, 2009 7:33 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I knew I saw an F-bomb in there during the game
I was pissed too. How the hell does that happen? I’m glad Haley doesn’t accept bullshit mistakes like that.
Brodie looked completely stupified to me throughout the first half. I wonder what the hell Haley did in the locker room to get him to come out and actually play?
Proably told him
that he was gonna lock Kelli up outside Merrimans house as a sacrificial offering if Croyle didn’t get his head in the game.
by IISaiNtII on Sep 13, 2009 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions 8 recs
Agreed
Whatever he did, the offense did pick up significantly after the half.
Whether it was the cause or not, the offense picking up coincided with taking shots downfield. Up until that point they were all short passes and they didnt have to worry about keeping 2 guys back deep. Throwing the deep ball opens up a lot.
Exactly
I always thought that Herm made Brodie go short all the time, but now I think mabye he just had that ingrained or something and Haley had to yell a set of balls into him.
by TheScootness on Sep 13, 2009 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions
They havent even really cracked the play book yet
so im sure he dumbed it down even more
by Bestofthewest on Sep 13, 2009 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions
I dont think Brody is catching on too well
by Bestofthewest on Sep 13, 2009 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Agreed
If you remember before last year Gailey installed a playbook that had one word names for plays to simplify things. Is this because Croyle (the QBotF at the time) just couldn’t handle anything more complex?
by TheScootness on Sep 13, 2009 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions
LOL
Right then I just got a flashback of The Waterboy muttering something about ‘But my momma sez…’
by BeefOnBunWithFries on Sep 13, 2009 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
What plays could you possible have
for having 5 defenders in the backfield before you turn around? They can bring back Al Saunders 300 pager, but until they block somebody, the play calls don’t matter much.
I remember Dawson to Taylor, Kenney to Carson, and Blackledge catching the snap in his facemask. Seen it all...
So true...
Hard to do anything when you are running for your life.
What kills me is that we had okay protection on that drive in the 4th qtr. Why couldn’t we get that protection for the rest of the game?
by Chiefsfan1970 on Sep 13, 2009 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions
The Cardinals led the league in 3rd quarter points last year.
I think Haley is intense, but I think he also makes good halftime adjustments.
Toby is in HR, which technically means he works for corporate, so he's really not a part of our family. Also, he's divorced, so he's really not a part of his family.
Good and bad.
Good because he got Brodie into the game but theres a bad side to this. We came out of the 2 minute warning in the 4th quarter in a simillar situation(where there was just a timeout from the 2 min break) and this time instead of being safe and calling the time out Brodie rushed it and it was a wasted down and an 8 yard loss that we never recovered from.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
Brodie Croyle...
Todd Haley ROCKED YOUR FACE!
Braccae illae virides cum subucula rosea et tunica Caledonia-quam elenganter concinnatur!
I LOVE THIS
THIS IS SO GOOD, HERM WOULD HAVE NEVER DONE THIS…we’ll be ok no ones ever won the super bowl in week one guys, beat the raiders next week! GO CHIEFS!
What I really liked
was after the touchdown throw to Bowe, when he came off the field you could read Haley’s lips as well. He said “that is how to play quarterback Brody.” Love him being in his face, but you have to recognize when he gets it as well. Great coaching.
I remember Dawson to Taylor, Kenney to Carson, and Blackledge catching the snap in his facemask. Seen it all...
Agreed
you cant just tear ’em down all the time
by Bestofthewest on Sep 13, 2009 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Saw that
I believe that he was congratulating Bradley after the long catch in the 4th too. Good to see he’s not 100% fire and brimstone.
by TheScootness on Sep 13, 2009 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Guys...I have a man-crush on Haley.
How much grief is that going to earn me here?
Just don't look him in the eye...
… and everything will be A-O-K.
by BeefOnBunWithFries on Sep 13, 2009 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions
i thought
he had already called for the snap 2-3 times and didnt get it. He was in the shotgun and the crowd was lound
This.....
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by Bestofthewest on Sep 13, 2009 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Use the little image icon on the post dialogue
Just paste the URL in there…
by BeefOnBunWithFries on Sep 13, 2009 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions
So im an idiot shit
I completely forgot that part
by Bestofthewest on Sep 13, 2009 7:56 PM CDT up reply actions
I was this excited when our D blocked that punt,and got an INT!
by Bestofthewest on Sep 13, 2009 7:57 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Peanut butter jelly time!!
Peanut butter jelly time!!!
Love it
Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes; after that, who cares?! He's a mile away and you've got his shoes!
SHUT UP YO FACE
Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes; after that, who cares?! He's a mile away and you've got his shoes!
Did it accomplish anything
other than making Haley feel better about himself? Did Croyle do the right thing later in the game because of the “coaching?”
It was Haley unable to control his temper (again). Not impressed. It is what it is.
What
He ripped a player a new asshole when he fucks up. thats the coaches job last time i checked
Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes; after that, who cares?! He's a mile away and you've got his shoes!
his job is to improve the player
not rip a new asshole. If that’s all that works, great. I guess it was better than demoting him…wait he did that the next series.
I’d rather have Haley calling the next play and coaching the scenrarios that could come up.
by NJ Chiefs Fan on Sep 13, 2009 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Did Brodie look improved?
Forget the yards and the touchdowns and no interceptions….he completed 67% of his passes! I’m encouraged by that but….we still lost.
by Joel Thorman on Sep 13, 2009 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions
I thought he looked improved but...
Its hard to tell with conservative play calling and no pass protection.
I know this much though: When he throws downfield, his passes look awful good. Beautiful spirals and usually on target. Needs to put more touch on the short passes.
by Chiefsfan1970 on Sep 13, 2009 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions
He didn't demote Croyle
Haley on using Thigpen:
“I told them to do be ready. There was, situationally, a plan for him. I only got to put him in once. It’s just the way the game went.”
He planned on throwing him in there all along and had planned to do it more.
I’d rather have Haley calling the next play and coaching the scenrarios that could come up.
I disagree. The players need to understand that stupid mistakes will not be tolerated. A professional NFL quarterback should be more than capable of something a high school kid could pull off. This isn’t the Herm “well it’s ok at least you tried” team anymore.
by TheScootness on Sep 13, 2009 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Wasn't Thiggy only in for 2 plays?
Two runs…then, of course, a punt.
Don't Fuccop Succop
by chicks_love_chiefs on Sep 13, 2009 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Ok, here's the deal with that.
As someone in the Army, I’m quite used to people ripping me and my fellow soldiers a new asshole. The deal with that is this…you can’t dance around the subject when someone is wrong. You can’t just say “hey, it’s ok buddy, you’ll get em next time.” cause no matter what, they’ll think it’s ok to screw up. But I guarantee that when the person in charge of you rips your asshole open and embarrasses you like that, you’re going to get pissed and remember not to ever do that again. It’s not a matter of feeling better about yourself…it’s a matter of making that person remember that they just fucked up big time and need to hear about it.
We can’t all live in a cute PC world where nobody’s feelings are hurt. These are grown ass men and when they make a mistake they need to be told about it and reprimanded. And from how the rest of the game went for Brodie…I’m gonna say he took the criticism just fine.
Again…Brodie is an adult. Not a 3 year old. He can handle it. Trust me.
Penn State to Kansas City...Always a winning combination.
by YNinja on Sep 13, 2009 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions 8 recs
I think people respond differently...
Not everyone will respond like a soldier, myself included, when someone is barking in your face. Some will respond well others wont. some respond better with calm explination. It’s impossible to say which was of coaching is better. There are example on both end that have succeeded. (Tony Dungy vs. Bill Parcells)
Don't Fuccop Succop
by chicks_love_chiefs on Sep 13, 2009 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
You are very right.
It depends on the person and the coach. If Tony Dungy tried to act angry, they wouldn’t take him seriously. If Haley tried to act like your best friend, again…wouldn’t take him seriously. With Haley you know what’s going to happen. You’re going to mess up and the first thing in your head is “oh shit, coach is gonna get me for this”. That’s what he knows will happen.
I don’t expect them to act like soldiers. But I do expect them to act like men. And men don’t get their feelings hurt when they screw up and get yelled at. You can’t go out on the field and catch feelings. Take your ass chewing and move on.
Penn State to Kansas City...Always a winning combination.
by YNinja on Sep 13, 2009 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
I'll agree to that.
Don't Fuccop Succop
by chicks_love_chiefs on Sep 13, 2009 9:45 PM CDT up reply actions
And if Croyle can take it then there is that great big Waiver wire out there
Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying
by Steve_Chiefs on Sep 14, 2009 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Can't
Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying
by Steve_Chiefs on Sep 14, 2009 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions
I would probably weep openly
Hence, why I am not Army material (unless there is a specific branch that specializes in eating Doritos).
-cw
Watching the 2009-2010 Chiefs 12 hours ahead of you (in Taipei, Taiwan).
Twittering my every move. Don't act like you're not even slightly interested.
And not just that, but it shocks the player out of being intimidated on the field.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
Hahaha that's genius.
I just got a new level of respect for Haley.
By the way…anyone else think Brodie is a lot like Nuke Lalouche in Bull Durham? Million dollar arm…10 cent head.
Penn State to Kansas City...Always a winning combination.
Brodie played a respectable game today.
I’ll be the first one to give him an Attaboy.
Kids got the goods. He just needs some fucking protection.
I feel the same way
kid did good, AND he didnt get injured.
"I will fight you!"
"What is your weapon?"
"My bare hands!"
"That is stupid. I will use a sword and I will cut off your bare hands."
by CT Chief Fan on Sep 13, 2009 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Agree Croyle did well for a long period of time
just not 2 Minute Drill ready yet
Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying
by Steve_Chiefs on Sep 14, 2009 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions
All the guys at my house were high fiving when we saw that on the sidelines.
We love Haley here in Springfield.
Todd Haley
just became my absolute favorite coach.
simply because
this is exactly what i said when it happened.
by g00dn1ghtm4r3 on Sep 13, 2009 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah...
I said something like… are you out of your g—d—- pea-brained little mind, Brodie Croyle? You just had 2 f—-in minutes to figure out a play and you don’t know the play yet? Then Haley let loose and I thought… attaboy, Todd!
I have to say though… Trent Edwards blew a timeout last night with 45 seconds left in the 4th on a drive that could have won the game, and that was a whole lot dumber than Brodie’s. T.O. appeared to be sincerely regretting ever signing with Buffalo.
by u2nspenserfan on Sep 15, 2009 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions
i think brodys probably our best QB he just needs somebody to make a damn block i mean jesus.his arm and accuracy are unbelievable.i would love to see what him and bowe could do if we had a good offensive line.droooools
i dont agree with that i sure its Cassel
by Chiefsallthetimebaby! on Sep 14, 2009 12:13 AM CDT up reply actions
2 Qb's is a problem the Chiefs have not had in awhile if ever
Gannon-Grbac was not one cause Grbac sucked in Headspace area
Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying
by Steve_Chiefs on Sep 14, 2009 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions
brodie
brodie croyle is the best quaterback the chiefs have its the offensive line that sucks! I dont think a huge contract makes you a great quaterback matt had one decent year other than that hes just an over priced backup. I think the chiefs fans will be disappointed in the coming weeks.
I sure hope your wrong
If Croyle is as good as it gets than we are screwed…..
...( . )( . )...(___/{i}\___) ...(____X____)......oh and football....
Cassel started one year
And put up outstanding stats.
Croyle has tried to start the last two seasons and hasn’t finished (along with pretty crappy stats never giving any indication he’s ready to be a longterm QB here….seriously, none of his stats indicate that).
by Joel Thorman on Sep 13, 2009 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
LOVE IT
Gotta love Haley. Rip you good when you f*** up and pat you on the back when you do well. I think we are going to be OK.
Chiefs go 9-7. LJ makes 1400 yards. DBowe makes 1200 yards. Defense #18.
+1
Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying
by Steve_Chiefs on Sep 14, 2009 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions
This reminds me of
an old NFL films clip of Hank Stram giving Dawson the same thing on the sideline…“What’s taking so damn long in the huddle, Lenny?” “They’re talking in the huddle.” “Well tell them to shut the hell up and call the damn play!!” I knew I liked this guy!
you know
I was thinking earlyer he reminded me of Hank .
Len Dawson:
"Lamar Hunt had a dream and, the thing is, we had dreams, too. Just imagine the number of people that he has touched because he said, 'I'm going after this dream."'
by smokin iowa chief on Sep 14, 2009 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Herm would have patted Brodie on the back
And said “Dats okay son. We’ll get em next time!”
Stupid son of a bitch ruined our team. He’s a good man, but a sub par coach who we should’ve never picked up. He added 767 pounds of body fat to our team. Bastard.
I love it because
Haley is yelling the same things that us fans are yelling at the TV for. It was awesome.
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