Chiefs Still $7 Million Short of Salary Cap Minimum

by Joel Thorman on Sep 12, 2009 5:04 PM CDT in 2009 Kansas City Chiefs Campaign

You didn't know there was a salary cap minimum? Well, there is. And it requires the Chiefs to spend 87.6% of the salary cap according to the current CBA.

As of now, the Chiefs are still $7 million short of hitting the minimum according to Alex Marvez of FOX Sports (Thanks to nycchief for the link).

Here's how the top three in salary cap space rank:

Tampa Bay Bucs ($30 million)
Green Bay Packers ($17 million)
Kansas City Chiefs ($16 million)

I'm not sure exactly how the cap dynamics work but Marvez reports the Chiefs are the only team under the minimum.

The Chiefs are going to be spending $7 million either way. If they don't use it on the current team, then it will be split between every player that has appeared on the Chiefs roster since training camp (August 1st).

On several occasions, GM Scott Pioli has reiterated that he wants to spend smart and not let the money burn a hole in your pocket.

Unfortunately, that $7 million is going to burn a hole in Pioli's pocket one way or the other.

Marvez said one way to get over the hump would be extending a player's contract.

"Linebacker Derrick Johnson is the top Chiefs player whose contract expires at season's end," he writes.

"But under new CBA rules set to begin in 2010, the number of complete NFL seasons required for unrestricted free agency jumps from four to six seasons. That means Johnson will become a restricted free agent whose services could be retained for a lesser price in 2010 than a long-term deal."

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I'm willing to sign a 1 year 3.5 million contract....

If your reading Don, get ahold of me if your intrested.

That’ll take care of half.

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by chicks_love_chiefs on Sep 12, 2009 5:07 PM CDT reply actions

In all reality we should sign someone to an extention....

I don’t really know who, but it seems still to just waste 7 mil.

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by chicks_love_chiefs on Sep 12, 2009 5:08 PM CDT reply actions

spend it

3 for Runyan, 2 for Walker,1 for Justin Miller, 1 for a TE

done deal

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season

by stagdsp on Sep 12, 2009 5:14 PM CDT reply actions

And How...

spend the duckets and bring in some more talent. Like Pioli said, we’re never satisified or set on our roster, so let’s keep improving it…

Put this in your pipe and smoke it:
1. Chiefs will be at least 8-8 and vie for division champs
2. DJ will break out and finally have his year
3. LJ returns to form
4. DBowe drops will reduce

by kcchiefsfan72 on Sep 12, 2009 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions

Miller

I would love to see Miller on the tam but he isn’t the style of player Pioli and Haley want. He hasn’t been able to do anything but be a return man. From everything that I have read and seen he is really BAD in the secondary!

by flyin_squirl on Sep 12, 2009 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions

I feel we should devide it among current players in form of bonuses.

Why pay one person that might not pan out? rather than rewarding the entire team for their efforts with arrowheads and a fat bonus. I bet that would make bring everyone together even more.

by ALR on Sep 12, 2009 5:22 PM CDT reply actions

That or possibly devide it up among AP readers?

Don't Fuccop Succop

by chicks_love_chiefs on Sep 12, 2009 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs

Thatta do

How the hell did that happen? I am Trailblazer fan to the core but I love me some OKC THunder!!! Must be the Hometown pride I feel.

I'll Say it now so you guys can know I'm a true follower: "In Pioli I Trust"
Go Chiefs!!!!!

by bouzi on Sep 12, 2009 5:31 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions

Another example of just how bad Pioli has been so far.

Glaring needs at OT OG C WR TE KR LB and KC has the most $ available of all 32 teams.

Yet nothing was done.

by WarWolf on Sep 12, 2009 5:52 PM CDT reply actions

Third most...

Unless I am reading this article incorrectly KC has the third most money left to spend…and why so down on Pioli, I for one think he has done an above average job on filling our needs. I will not say great. But not bad.

by BoulderChief on Sep 12, 2009 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions

I won't say great either...

But by the impossible standards set by us, the fans, he did a pretty respectable job in ONE offseason. There isn’t a GM in the world that would have made the Chiefs Super Bowl favorites or even playoff favorites

Don't Fuccop Succop

by chicks_love_chiefs on Sep 12, 2009 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions

agreed

He has done more moves this offseason that I liked the CP has done in his tenure

by BoulderChief on Sep 12, 2009 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions

really?

Trent Green
Priest Homes
Derrick Thomas
Neil Smith
Andre Rison
Marcus Allen

I can keep going.

Desperately hoping for Desperate Measures

by averagegatsby on Sep 12, 2009 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions

You could...but that about sum's up his 20 year career here.

Oh wait…Joe Montana.

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by chicks_love_chiefs on Sep 12, 2009 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions

there are more...

Its just a ridiuclous statement that a man in one offseason has acquired more good players than a man did in 20.

Desperately hoping for Desperate Measures

by averagegatsby on Sep 12, 2009 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions

I'll agree...

If you take it literally….yes over Carl’s tenure he did infact pick up more quality players in 20 years than Pioli has in 1 …fact.

But this has been the most productive offseason I’ve seen in a long time.

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by chicks_love_chiefs on Sep 12, 2009 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions

The only season I may disagree with...

would perhaps be Vermeils first year, of course he also let a very productive Donnie Edwards go, so you are probably right

Desperately hoping for Desperate Measures

by averagegatsby on Sep 12, 2009 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions

There's a reason...

most Chiefs fans over the last several years have been calling for Petersons head…and it’s not becasue he was a great GM.

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by chicks_love_chiefs on Sep 12, 2009 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions

I think he was a great GM

But I dont think he was able to keep up with the changing league

Desperately hoping for Desperate Measures

by averagegatsby on Sep 12, 2009 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions

You forgot a guy named Tony

… last name Gonzalez, if I recall correctly

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton!

by upamtn on Sep 12, 2009 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions

Exactly...

I could have kept going, He also brought in a man named Marty

Desperately hoping for Desperate Measures

by averagegatsby on Sep 12, 2009 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions

He also gave a 3rd (2nd?) rd draft pick

for effing Herm

That was the stupidest thing I’d ever heard of – even on the very day he did it.

Hopes fade once again from blue to red. Go New Chiefs!!

by kabrink on Sep 12, 2009 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions

Yeah....

I hated that move. I think he thought Herm would be more like Marty. Come to think of it, Im still a little surprised we couldn’t get Cowher. Maybe he really didn’t want to coach, but I think if anyone had a shot at getting him to come back it would have been us.

Desperately hoping for Desperate Measures

by averagegatsby on Sep 12, 2009 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions

Who knows that migh that might happen in the offseason...

No matter how good he does…I’d have no problem saying good riddance to Haley if it meant bringing in Cowher.

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by chicks_love_chiefs on Sep 12, 2009 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions

I dunno...

I think you owe it to someone to give them 3 years. I also would hate Haley to become the next Shanahan by ironically going to the Raiders and sticking it to us.

Though i also think Shanahan is one of the more overrated coaches ever, he really accomplished very little once Elway was gone.

Desperately hoping for Desperate Measures

by averagegatsby on Sep 12, 2009 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions

yeah

I love Cowher but that ship has sailed forever for the Chiefs. I think Cowher might even stay retired. But, if he returns this next year, I suspect he’ll stay at that place (Dallas? San Diego? (that would suck)) until he does retire for good.

Hopes fade once again from blue to red. Go New Chiefs!!

by kabrink on Sep 12, 2009 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions

confused

You mean get Cowher this last offseason, or when Herm was bought?

I really did want Cowher this offseason. But, there’s also something to be said about going for the younger, hungry coaches. I once saw a study that showed that most head coaches are not successful after their 1st ten years. Too burned out – so I’m afraid of retread coaches. I also feared bringing in a college coach so I think we did about the right thing.

I’m just real glad we took Haley instead of 17 year old McDaniels. The difference in level of maturity is tremendously obvious.

Hopes fade once again from blue to red. Go New Chiefs!!

by kabrink on Sep 12, 2009 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions

Yeah Cowher this past offseason.

I think there is a difference between a typical coach and a coach like Cowher. Discipline never goes out of style.

Desperately hoping for Desperate Measures

by averagegatsby on Sep 12, 2009 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions

Haley has discipline

Also, I agree with Cowher. I don’t think he’s the typical coach. I think he is the Parcells type who can be successful time and again no matter the team – if he chooses to return.

Hopes fade once again from blue to red. Go New Chiefs!!

by kabrink on Sep 12, 2009 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions

Agree...Drafing Tony = Great job Peterson..

Tony not winning a playoff game as a Chief = Horrible job Peterson

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by chicks_love_chiefs on Sep 12, 2009 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions

This portion of the article helped me understand how we were 3rd on the list, but the only team that was under the minmum.

Tampa Bay’s frugality is nothing new. The Bucs have a team cap figure of $144 million — $16 million more than the official league number — because of credits accrued from previous seasons when the club didn’t spend to the cap.

by TonyG88 on Sep 12, 2009 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions

Aw yes...

I was wondering how that all worked,,,,This articel from PFT didn’t really explain that very well. Infact they don’t even attempt to explain it.

Tampa tried to spend their money during the offseason on Albert Haynesworth and Matt Cassel. When those two options didn’t pan out, they were left with a ridiculous amount of leftover cap room.

In numbers revealed by Fox’s Alex Marvez Saturday, the Bucs have a league-high $30 million in salary cap room.

The next closest team to the Bucs isn’t very close at all. The Packers have $17 million remaining, the Chiefs have $16 million, the Bears have $15 million, and the Browns have $15 million in salary cap room.

Marvez points out another interesting financial note concerning the Chiefs. Kansas City is the only team in the league that hasn’t reached the minimum spending floor mandated under the Collective Bargaining Agreement. The Chiefs are a whopping $7 million short of spending 87.6 percent of their cap total on player salaries, which is the required floor.

G.M. Scott Pioli is going to have to find some young Chiefs he wants to invest in long-term before the end of the season hits.

Tampa, meanwhile, will have to explain away the perception that they aren’t doing everything they can do to win football games in an effort to save money.

Don't Fuccop Succop

by chicks_love_chiefs on Sep 12, 2009 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions

LMAO

“Nothing was done” Where have you been this preseason?

Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes; after that, who cares?! He's a mile away and you've got his shoes!

by SuperTurtle on Sep 12, 2009 6:11 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions

offseason*

Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes; after that, who cares?! He's a mile away and you've got his shoes!

by SuperTurtle on Sep 12, 2009 6:15 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions

Thank you ST

Why so glum Wolf?

by BoulderChief on Sep 12, 2009 6:12 PM CDT reply actions

Split it.

They should split it between the players. They all worked really hard. Losing all that weight. Showing they can perform. Would be a nice gesture.

by Chiefsfan85 on Sep 12, 2009 6:26 PM CDT reply actions

i wouldnt extend DJ

based on his play the last few seasons.

Tough to say…i think it will be who steps up

by SDChief on Sep 12, 2009 6:26 PM CDT reply actions

Agreed

Extentions should be saved for players that have lived up to expectations, not players that have been disappointments their whole career.

If DJ has a huge year, as many contract year players often do, then I’d consider an extention after the season.

Don't Fuccop Succop

by chicks_love_chiefs on Sep 12, 2009 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions

Page is on a one year extension

not that he needs all the money but I would not be against giving him a real contract. So far hes had a 7th round contract and a one year extension. Hes been our starter for a while now so pay the man some real money.

by Bashman on Sep 12, 2009 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions

7 million under yet they only pick up 2 junk oline man from the Dolphins go Figure!!

by RedBowe82 on Sep 12, 2009 7:03 PM CDT reply actions

What RT should they have signed?

by TonyG88 on Sep 12, 2009 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions

Piloi should give Shaq a call

i hear he’s gonna be looking for a new job after the season

by KCCheeze on Sep 12, 2009 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions

Im not completely against splitting the money but is there a deadline for this? I mean there are players out there that could/should be signed like walker runyan and even guys like pope or miller. No one is getting signed until Tuesday because of the guaranteed money thing, but does anyone know when we have to spend the money by or it gets split?
Also…wtf is Tampa Bay doing?

by Bashman on Sep 12, 2009 8:09 PM CDT reply actions

ALSO

maybe I am just not reading it or understanding it correctly, but how is that Tampa Bay is 30 million under the cap to our 17 million, but we are the only team under the league minimum?

by Bashman on Sep 12, 2009 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions

Thats a question

I want to have answered as well

Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes; after that, who cares?! He's a mile away and you've got his shoes!

by SuperTurtle on Sep 12, 2009 8:12 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions

Wow...

so the Chiefs are $7 million under and all people can do is complain about them not spending enough money? Who would they spend it on? Who were the big time free agents that wanted to go to KC? NOBODY. Pioli is not going to spend money retardedly (see Raiders) with extravagant contracts just cause he can. He’s spending the money wisely and on players he believes will perform. Remember…this is a multi-year process. You can’t fix an entire team in one offseason.

Penn State to Kansas City...Always a winning combination.

by YNinja on Sep 12, 2009 8:24 PM CDT reply actions

I am all for being frugal

and trying to make this a process, but when your options are A) spend the money on recently cut free agents, or B) spread the money around as a bonus to people who already make waaay too much money, I think the answer is a resounding

There may not be big name guys out there like a few months ago, but there are definitely players available who can help the team, namely on the offensive side of the ball.

by Bashman on Sep 12, 2009 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions

Cash for Clunckers - KC style!!!

No way will the organization allow $7 million sit there without attracting a single improvement to “the right 53”. This money is already spent…Pioli is just waiting on the right bodies to come available (after week 1 to drop the guarantee req’t) or a few of the guys on the current roster to step up and show why the organization should use it on a contract extension for them.

by RrustyDawg on Sep 12, 2009 8:39 PM CDT reply actions

How much do OL cost?

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton!

by upamtn on Sep 12, 2009 8:51 PM CDT reply actions

LT's are the second most expensive postition, behind QB's

Desperately hoping for Desperate Measures

by averagegatsby on Sep 12, 2009 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions

It can be argued LT is the second most important position other than QB...

thankfully we don’t need either.

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by chicks_love_chiefs on Sep 12, 2009 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions

I wouldn't even try to argue against it.

Im not completely sold on Albert yet, but I do like his potential

Desperately hoping for Desperate Measures

by averagegatsby on Sep 12, 2009 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions

I agree

I’m not sold on Albert yet…per se…but I fully expect him to become an All Pro LT.

If he does not it will be a huge disapointment.

Don't Fuccop Succop

by chicks_love_chiefs on Sep 12, 2009 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions

I dont know about that...

Its really hard to crack the offensive lineman probowl club. Unless you follow the Football Outsiders its hard to judge the performance of an O-Lineman. The thing is though, once he gets one pro-bowl he is almost guaranteed to get multiple pro-bowls.

Desperately hoping for Desperate Measures

by averagegatsby on Sep 12, 2009 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions

Isn't that great?

How good does it feel to say we don’t need a QB or LT for once? That’s all I heard after Trent greens downfall and Roafs retirement

The Don's gonna make you and offer you can't refuse.

by Haleystheman on Sep 12, 2009 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions

It feels pretty good.

I like where this team is going.

Don't Fuccop Succop

by chicks_love_chiefs on Sep 12, 2009 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions

Please sign me

I played Right tackle in high school, I am a very svelte 275 pounds, and as you can see my luscious pecs are quite robust.

LOL I wish I was as handsome as the guy in my profile pic…

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by mugglemage on Sep 12, 2009 9:10 PM CDT reply actions