The Perfect Timing of Scott Pioli
I know Scott Pioli couldn't have timed this. But even the things he cannot control end up making him look brilliant.
The latest "master stroke" comes courtesy of circumstances. Then again, it also shows that addressing a need quickly and decisively is usually a strong course of action. Early going in this pre-season time, the hailed WR guru Todd Haley apparently radioed up the chain of command saying there wasn't enough playmakers with the receiving corps already on the roster. Of course, even casual fans could note that after trading Tony Gonzalez, you're bound to have a lot of need for some capable hands out there. But, as we've noted before, you need time to observe what you already have in hand.
But once just a couple days were under the belt, it became clear the Chiefs were completely deficient at the wide receiver position. New addition Bobby Engram will have a very calculated place in the slot as a veteran possession receiver. And Dwayne Bowe, as promising as he is, is just now entering his third year himself. There's still much to work on within his own game to move from good to great. No, what the Chiefs needed was a Tony Gonzalez type of presence - someone who's been around, someone who prepares well and someone who could elevate the receiving corps by being a part of things.
Amani Toomer was signed to fill that role and the early chatter is that it's been a move that works. Toomer's been an instant professional on the field and provided some of the personal experience as well as competition that should motivate the younger guys. And the timing couldn't have been any better.
Look at some of the names already going down at the receiver position. The Ravens lost Mark Clayton for the offseason and hope the effects don't carry over into Week One (versus the Chiefs). Atlanta will be glad they traded for Gonzalez since another receiver, Harry Douglas, is now out for the season with a torn ACL. The Rams just lost promising breakout candidate Donnie Avery for several weeks and the 49ers just lost Brandon Jones (to go with the Michael Crabtree saga). Deion Branch continues to be touch-and-go for Seattle and will likely be the same all season and the Redskins have three guys hurting: Santana Moss, Devin Thomas and Malcolm Kelly.
While some of the injuries are more serious than others, what it shows is that no other position on the football field has experienced as many injuries in the early going than wide receiver. And it's here that the Chiefs struck before anyone else could get in on the bidding for a valuable veteran like Toomer. Perhaps Pioli counted on this a bit in his approach, but either way, he continues to look good no matter team he's running.
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Excellent point
There’s no doubt in my mind at least one of those teams would have taken a look at Amani Toomer if he were still available. The Ravens, considering they passed on him when they already had WR issues, probably aren’t one of them but you take a team like the Rams or the 49ers, they definitely would have taken a closer look at Toomer.
Good points.
And another team
Though they didn’t suffer an injury at the position, I’m curious as to why the Bears didn’t take a look at him. With the new QB, having a security blanket can be comforting.
True that
I think they have been holding out to see if Mason was really going to retire. Now that he is not, they lose Clayton…That hurts. I wouldn’t be too surprised to see Matt Jones sign with someone very soon.
by Chiefsfan1970 on Aug 9, 2009 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Great timing to Pioli and Connerman
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Just reading around camps and a lot of uninjured WR’s are having problems catching the ball.
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perfect timing?
Come on, the guy is 34 years old and even without Plaxico the Giants didn’t try to keep him. He isn’t a savior. Pioli isn’t a genius for signing him.
It was a low-dough signing of an aging veteran at a position that the team has a dearth of talent. It ranks right up there with bringing in Vrabel.
Signing anybody with more experience than Jeff Webb is positive move for this receiver corp but please don’t confuse Toomer with a stud. Personally, I’d rather have Tony G. back… or a draft pick for him this year, not next. Or was that all part of Pioli’s perfect timing as well?
For all the complaints
about the draft pick for Gonzo not being this year, we will all be happy when we have the two 2nd round picks next year.
Once, I urinated a whole hotdog.
by LarryDoggyDog on Aug 9, 2009 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Who said he's a savior?
That wasn’t what the post was about. The post was about snatching the best available receiver when a lot of other teams are seeing their wideouts succumb to injury.
I could get more sacks with my sack
Toomer
Yes it would be great to have Tony… Thanks for stating the obvious!!! The whole point of this article is that after the Tony trade we needed a WR that can show our young guys how to be a PRO! Toomer is that guy. Come on he is 36 and had a pretty good year last year for a 3rd WR… NYG have a crapload of young guys that would never get to see the field if Toomer was still there. They chose to see the new guys rather than have Toomer who only has a couple of years left. If you don’t see you young guys, their contracts will be up and you wont know what they can bring to the table…
Another main point of the article was his Timing with the signing. They are dead on… Most of those guys have gone down in the last 4 days… They would have been calling Toomer right away!
Another point
on the draft pick for Tony next year. Why would we not try and get a better pick… Only 6 teams make the playoffs in the NFC. There is a better chance that we can get a higher pick in 2010 than we would have got in 2009… The only way it can go down is if ATL has another GREAT season. Vegas has them at 2/1 to win the NFC South (that is 2nd behind Car). Their over and under on wins is 9. They are 7th on the list to win the NFC… I like those odds!!!
Unfortunately...
The Falcons have never posted back to back winning seasons.
I could get more sacks with my sack
That just strengthens flyin_squirl's point.
Chances are that it’ll be a medium-to-high 2nd-rounder. They’d have to put together back-to-back good seasons to push that pick to the end of the 2nd round.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
Boo Lenny!!!
Talk about taking it out of context!
I’m pretty excited about having Toomer. All signs from camp are showing that he is still the surehanded WR he’s always been. He is just what we needed to fill out the roster for the short term. This won’t be the Fitz/Boldin/Breaston tandem they have in Arizona but shit, what is? Bowe, Bradley, Toomer, and Engram sounds better than anything we have had for as long as I can remember.
Lets face it, we have NEVER had very good receivers, at least not since I have been a fan.
by Chiefsfan1970 on Aug 9, 2009 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions
taking it out of context?
Here is the context I addressed:
.. even the things he cannot control end up making [Pioli] look brilliant.
…The latest “master stroke” …
…someone who could elevate the receiving corps…
…an instant professional on the field…
and I just don’t buy the hype. Disagree with me if you will but so many of the posts here read like love in bloom where Pioli and his New England Mafia™ can do no wrong. Every small move becomes elevated to an artist’s stroke, every questionable move dismissed without question because HE knows what he is doing.
Pioli signed a 34 year old receiver. There are other old players out there. I’m sure Pioli could sign them, too. Teams go through a lot of receivers, especially this time of year. I just don’t see how this move indicates any genius or good fortune. It is the signing of a 34 year old receiver, period.
Can this guy last a whole season? Can he stop dropping balls, which he did with increasing frequency last year? If he can do those things, then it will have been a good move. Obviously, its too soon to tell.
I think what he was getting at was...
That Toomer was the best available WR and Pioli snagged him right before multiple teams had receivers injured during camp. “Great timing”
by Joel Thorman on Aug 9, 2009 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm with Lenny on this one.
The conclusion in the OP is rather obvious—he signed the last available veteran WR right before a lot of other teams had some injuries. Notably, he would be a downgrade for many of those teams, where here, he’s an upgrade for our replacement level practice squad guys.
I appreciate the sentiment (PIOLI CAN DO NO WRONG!), but c’mon. The point of the OP is that he was lucky on this one. Ok. And?
Toomer has performed so far better than our current WR crew
Giants fan thought is was a good signing
Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying
With the diminishing return on TG...
I’m glad that we traded him… a 2nd rounder in the 2010 draft is better than nothing. Anyways we wouldn’t have recieved a 2nd rounder this year… we would have ended up with a 3rd round pick.
Lest us not forget Tony didn’t want to play here, and his role was going to be changing. I’m glad that the players that we have here want to be here.
Lastly the 2010 draft is staked with offensive linemen, and WR’s. You can bet with the 2 of the first 3 picks will be an offensive lineman or WR. Possibly even 2 WR’s if they fit our need.
Add Dez Bryant and Benn
then the rest
Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying
by Steve_Chiefs on Aug 9, 2009 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
2010 WR's
Arrelious Benn, Damian Williams, Dez Bryant all 1st round talent
Brandon LaFell, Golden Tate, Eric Decker, Marshawn Gilyard 2nd round talen.
Knew most of these guys but found the others on Mock drafts for 2010. Now this will change just because College Football hasnt even started yest but there is a good crop of guys…
BTW
That mock draft has us taking Terrence Cody in round 1, George Selvie and Evan Royster in round 2
2010
Just from a talent/value perspective, I’m glad the Chiefs got the 2nd round pick in the 10 draft instead of the 09. Preseason read on the talent looks a lot more impressive. I’d love to have a pro-bowl recieving target in 09, and no, Toomer isn’t it, but that will come. The signing was a timely one.
Big Baby to replace Edwards doesn't sound bad
With our new 3-4
and I don’t see that Haley would go 1st round on a WR anyway.
Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying
Thanks for the link
Brandon LaFell, LSU is the number one reciever on that list. Imagine us getting 4 LSU players in 4 years.
Good points and not-so-good.
Toomer isn’t stretching the field so much, these days. But Tony didn’t stretch the field, either. He was our post-up guy. When he lined up away from Bowe, there was some doubt in defenses’ minds about which way to roll the coverage, but they still didn’t need deep safety help.
Toomer doesn’t address the deep threat, but he may be instrumental in bringing along the younger, faster guys. Brilliant move? Nah. Sensible/smart move? Yeah.
We have a shot at stretching defenses, with some of the youth and speed on the roster. But just a shot.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
You left Desaun Jackson off that list
And don’t forget the TE the Eagles drafted either. Livin near Philly I get a lot of the training camp info and Conrelius Ingrahm was a beast in camp. ACL torn.
very true
there are actually several other banged up and bruised WR but that wasn’t the full point of the article. I just wanted to make my point and move on. However, you’re right on that count.
Hey I'm all for ball swinging
…but if this works out, it was lucky timing, and if it doesn’t, it was a stop gap for an glaring hole on the team.
Lucky? Nah. Just the result of seeing what's happening and maybe not getting from Engram what they'd hoped.
Short-term, the Chiefs can field sure-handed and smart WRs in more alignments. Long-term, maybe the younger players will show that kind of tough consistency to go with their younger legs. Giants may yet regret the total tear-down. But maybe they had some youth all ready to step up and wanted the roster room for some more. It may’ve been a cap move, too. As a returning vet, Toomer probably demanded more than a vet who’d been released. I dunno.
But I agree it’s not so much a genius move as a sensible one that says more about the existing dearth of consistency at WR.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
The difference between Pioli and Carl is action.
Pioli sees a need and addresses head on. Carl would hope things worked out ok. Remember last year the Chiefs entered camp with Croyle, Huard and Thigpen as their QBs. Carl hoped that Croyle would stay healthy. Two years ago Carl hope that Willie Roaf would un-retire. Pioli seems to not have much regard for hope — he sees a need and then fills it.
Toby is in HR, which technically means he works for corporate, so he's really not a part of our family. Also, he's divorced, so he's really not a part of his family.
Fills the need?
We’ll see when they actually get into action.
The thing about Pioli that stands out to me is doing things that move the organization forward. Carl would’ve gone after Matt Jones or somebody like him to address the obvious need as aggressively as possible. Pioli’s not that aggressive, and not as likely to risk down-side, the way I see it. That was the main problem with Carl. He’d give anything to land a big name and sacrifice depth and team cohesion to do it. But that was the way teams like Dallas and San Francisco did it – mortgaging the future for a great present. They succeeded (and I think a few 9er execs paid some hefty fines), and the Chiefs fell short following that model, with King Carl dissin’ a lot of very good role players for the sake of a few stars.
Heck, Carl dissed some stars, too. Remember how Neil Smith couldn’t get what Denver offered? Remember James Hasty always having to scream to get a LITTLE respect?
This may not put a great Chiefs team on the field this year. They’ll be better and they’ll be in position to continue getting better, but until our WRs start lightin’ it up and our O-Line starts dominating at the point of attack, we really don’t know how competitive this team will be.
I LIKE the signing of Toomer, but it says that KC is in trouble at WR, and coaching alone wasn’t getting it done, and we’re pretty sure Toomer isn’t going to be a tremendous deep threat. He’s more the #3 guy who matches up with a #3 CB and makes a big play off the mismatch, or by finding the hole in the zone. His signing suggests to me that the faster guys the Chiefs do have just can’t be relied upon.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
KC and their troubles at WR
It pretty simple why KC is and always has been in touble in the WR ranks…
2009: 6th round pick
2008: 4th and 6th round
2007: 1st round
2006: 6th round
2005: 4th round
2004: 4th and 6th round
2003: None
2002: None
2001: 3rd round
You cant expect a late round WR to amount to much… We have been banking on that for the entire decade. With Haley look for us to draft a WR early next year unless he likes what he sees (BIG IF) this year.
Trash to treasure
Wasnt there a post or article on here just the other day saying the eagles were loaded or overloaded on WR’s.And they were going to have to cut some loose,surely they arent the only team that will cut wr,so maybe we can get someone there.
I dunno im no guru or anything even close,but i would like to see the WR spot all buttoned up this yr through FA .That way we could do some moving around with our draft spots and perhaps get back to the punishing dominating def we all know and loved to watch.

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