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Bob Gretz on Derrick Thomas

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Bob Gretz is one of the few people I really wanted to hear from about Derrick Thomas because Bob has seen it all in nearly thirty years of covering the Kansas City Chiefs. Like he goes on to say, he saw every single one of Derrick Thomas' NFL games. Many thanks to Bob for taking time out from writing at BobGretz.com to contribute here.

Bob talks about Derrick Thomas, after the jump.

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I saw every one of Derrick Thomas’ sacks, every one of his forced fumbles, every one of his safeties, recovered fumbles and touchdowns. D.T. was a remarkable defensive force in the game every time he stepped on the field. There have been very few defensive players who could change the course of a game. That was Derrick Thomas the player.

But there was so much more to Derrick than that and there are so many moments off the field were D.T. also left memories. One came in the 1992 off-season.

At the time, I was doing a morning radio show on KCFX with comedian/author/bon vivant David Naster. We booked an author for an in-studio appearance. Her name was Jean Hill and she had been the subject of a book JFK: The Last Dissenting Witness. She and the book’s author were scheduled to be in studio one morning.

Jean Hill had been in Dealey Plaza in Dallas on November 22, 1963. She was just 21 feet away from President John Kennedy when he was shot. Hill is visible in the Zapruder film as the woman wearing a red rain coat. She said emphatically from the start that the shots at JFK came from the area that has become known as the "grassy knoll" not from the upper floors of the Texas Schoolbook Depository Building.

In the years after the assassination, Hill faded from public view. Many others in the Plaza that day died under unusual circumstances and her comments were in direct contradiction to the conclusions issued by the Warren Commission. She said she did not want the attention and feared for her life.

Eventually, she was convinced to tell her story. She also became one of the major sources of information for director Oliver Stone in the making of his movie JFK.

When it came to the JFK and his death, few people were more informed, were more studied on the matter than Derrick Thomas. He had every book written about the subject and there have been hundreds. He had every documentary done on that day, and there have been dozens. He had visited Dealey Plaza. He had talked to others who were part of that day, both before and after the shooting. When it came to all the theories on what happened, he could discuss them all, poke holes in them, or provide supportive information.

D.T. was perfect to have with us that morning to talk with Jean Hill. I approached him one day during the off-season at Arrowhead and told him that she was going to be our guest and that I wanted him to be there. His eyes lit up and he said absolutely, what time? When I told him 7:30 a.m., the smile left his face.

"Ah Gretz, why don’t you get an afternoon show?" he said. "Damn, I’ll be there."

Understand that D.T. was not a morning person. Actually he hated mornings. He was also perpetually late. I walked away and figured there was no way he would show up on time and little chance that he would show up at all.

The appointed morning came. A few minutes before the appointed moment, our phone rang in the studio from the security desk downstairs. It was D.T.

He showed up in the studio wearing a suit and the look of a man who had not yet been to bed. Turns out he had not slept. No, he had not been partying. He had been working.

At the time, D.T. had bought a limousine and set up a limo service. The night before he had a reservation for the car, but at the last minute his driver had to back out of the assignment. So being the owner, D.T. became the driver. He threw on a suit, grabbed the keys and took care of the fare. It was a bachelor party that started in Kansas City, made its way to Lawrence and Topeka and then back to Kansas City. He dropped off his last passenger and came right to the studios.

Jean Hill showed up a few minutes later and before any of us knew it, she and Derrick were conversing on the air about the assassination. Hill was amazed at D.T.’s depth of knowledge and he reveled in the opportunity to pick the brain of someone who had been on the spot.

To this day, I’m not sure how it sounded on the air, if it was entertaining, or made sense. But I was fascinated. Just watching a young man like Thomas talking with a woman who was a senior citizen about one of the biggest news events of the century was surreal.

Like so many moments involving Derrick Thomas, I can’t help but smile at the memory.

Many thanks to Bob Gretz for taking time to contribute this. Make sure you check out BobGretz.com for the some of the best Kansas City Chiefs football coverage around.

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Wow

Thanks, Bob. What a great story.

by Joel Thorman on Aug 8, 2009 4:07 PM CDT reply actions  

And isn't it amazing

That a story like this is just in his memory archives? Man, to see some of the things he’s seen.

by Joel Thorman on Aug 8, 2009 4:11 PM CDT reply actions  

Awesome read

Thank you so very much for that. Since I have been here at AP, Gretz is about the only other place I go for real insight and information on the Chiefs. He is a great writer and has so much good background knowledge to add to the conversation. I am truly a Gretz fan. And will forever be a Derrick Thomas fan.

Chiefs go 9-7. LJ makes 1400 yards. DBowe makes 1200 yards. Defense #18.

by Zodeman on Aug 8, 2009 4:30 PM CDT reply actions  

The shots sounded like they came from the grassy knoll

because they echoed off the nearby overpass. JFK was shot from the schoolbook depository building, plain and simple. The evidence is in the Zapruder film. Conspiracy theorists try to claim that since his head flies back, the shots must have come from the front of the vehicle instead of from behind. Ballistics experts have argued for years that the footage matches up with what would happen if someone was shot from behind. The reasoning being that a bullet entering the back of someone’s head wouldn’t cause the head to move at all because it’s like a hot knife slicing through butter, however, when the bullet exits the front of the head, (trying not to get too graphic here) the brains and tissue etc. exit along with it, thus causing the head to fly back just like you see in the footage. I didn’t mean to go off on an anti-conspiracy rant but I just wanted to point out that it’s really sad that woman lived her life in fear for no reason.

by jonnyu on Aug 8, 2009 5:14 PM CDT reply actions  

saw a show not long ago

Where they took the Zapruder film and did a computer simulation of the plaza and placement of all the people…and it was definitely Oswald from the depository. Bullet wounds and trajectory lined up perfectly when they did frame-by-frame analysis of body positions. So much for Oliver Stone.

Chiefs go 9-7. LJ makes 1400 yards. DBowe makes 1200 yards. Defense #18.

by Zodeman on Aug 8, 2009 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

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Like so many moments involving Derrick Thomas, I can’t help but smile at the memory.

To me, this is why Derrick was such an influence, almost every fan can think of at least 1 memory of Derrick that will bring a smile to their face.

by BAMFSpecialOps on Aug 8, 2009 5:45 PM CDT reply actions  

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