Chiefs Training Camp Update 8/6 PM
Updated: 6:27 PM
The Chiefs have concluded the first week of training camp. Successful so far, no? Todd Haley hasn't really had anything negative to say. The defense, particularly Bernard Pollard, is getting chatty on the field. The offense is hopefully getting some rhythm.
Check out Josh Looney's work at the Mothership. He's got a nice rundown on the language used when talking about the defensive line. If it's been a few years since you've played football, or just a casual fan, then it's a must read since words like "zero technique" and "A gap" are thrown around here.
Interesting note: Al Davis was at Chiefs camp yesterday according to Mr. Gretz at CBS. Interesting, isn't it?
Updates from Mr. Gretz at CBS and Mr. Looney are after the jump. We'll update this as the UW-RF reports come in.
General stuff
- Al Davis was in the house yesterday (Gretz at CBS)
- New nickname for Andy Studebaker: The Sterminator (Josh Looney at the Mothership)
- During tight end Brad Cottam’s post-practice interview with reporters, full back Mike Cox was trying to distract his teammate. Cox was standing behind the reporters, making faces and ducking in and out of the interview. Cottam did a good job keeping his composure. (UW-RF)
- Brandon Flowers on Twitter: “It’s good for interacting with fans,” he said. When asked if he thought he’d get in trouble for what he puts on the site, like several other athletes have in the past, Flowers said, “I wouldn’t put anything on there that would let me get in trouble.” (UW-RF)
Offense
- Todd Haley continues to pay attention to WRs and TEs and is unhappy with the number of drops (Gretz at CBS)
- Waters has been lining up at center for 7-on-7 drills for practice and/or a breather (Josh Looney at the Mothership)
- Devard Darling was kicked off the field after some mental mistakes (Gretz at CBS)
- The reason Darling had to run was because he lined up in the wrong spot during the drill. When Darling tried talking to Haley, the head coach yelled, “Take it in. I want guys who want to be here and aren’t sensitive and emotionally soft. Take it in.” (UW-RF)
- WR Devard Darling had little to say about his run-in with Chiefs coach Todd Haley. "I know why I was told to run," he said. "I don't know why I was told to leave the field. I don't want to say anything more." (Gretz at CBS)
- Chiefs coach Todd Haley didn't want to talk about throwing WR Devard Darling off the practice field. "That's between Devard and me," Haley said. (Gretz at CBS)
- Victory formation was practiced today (Josh Looney at the Mothership)
- The players snapping the ball included center Rudy Niswanger, center Eric Ghiaciuc, guard Brian De La Puente and guard Darryl Harris. (UW-RF)
- During 7-on-7, quarterback Matt Cassel was disappointed with the lack of enthusiasm during the drill and hollered, “The energy level is down, guys. Let’s pick it up.” (UW-RF)
Defense
- Mike Vrabel is practicing again after missing Wednesday's practices (Gretz at CBS)
- Alex Magee caused a Jackie Battle fumble and Andy Studebaker picked it up for a TD (Gretz at CBS)
- Tank Tyler had some nice penetration into the backfield on several line plays (Josh Looney at the Mothership)
- Jon McGraw had a pass break up and an INT in red zone 7-on-7 drills (Josh Looney at the Mothership)
- Defense looked strong on 3rd down drills (Josh Looney at the Mothership)
- Vrabel and Corey Mays teamed up for a sack (Josh Looney at the Mothership)
- Safety Bernard Pollard clobbered running back Larry Johnson after a quarterback Matt Cassel handoff. (UW-RF)
Special teams
- Ryan Succop was 3/4. Made from 34, 37 and 45 yards and missed wide left from 42 yards (Gretz at CBS)
- Practice started with return coverage drills (Josh Looney at the Mothership)
- Three special teams periods today capped off with kick return coverage (Josh Looney at the Mothership)
Injuries
- Zach Thomas left practice early again today. No word on what's wrong, if anything (Gretz at CBS)
- Monty Beisel is not participating today. He was out yesterday as well (Josh Looney at the Mothership)
- Linebackers Demorrio Williams, Monty Beisel and Weston Dacus and cornerback DaJuan Morgan worked out instead of participating in practice this afternoon. Dacus was seen with a brace on his right ankle. (UW-RF)
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Looks like Darling may get cut
I can’t be happier about the snippets on Magee, Tank, and the 3rd down drills. Great news from the Defense.
Chiefs 2009: 6-10 or 7-9 and only one season from the Playoffs.
funny
My thoughts on reading those statements vascillated between “cool, the defense is going to be good” and “uh-oh, the OL sucks again”. Let’s hope the former.
Hopes fade once again from blue to red. Go New Chiefs!!
I'm with you on that...
Is it good? Is it bad?
I don’t know what to think.
by Chiefsfan1970 on Aug 6, 2009 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Well
If we had a real center it’d be good, but I’m thinkin this is bad, we’re going to be starting a back-up center. So we have no real test of Tyler.
I think we need a new center, Rookie FA maybe. Maybe Waters should play center and Niswanger should take over at LG. We really need a new center, and RT, I don’t know why they don’t find someone as a stop gap for a year until we can draft or pick a new center in FA. There has to be a FA out there that can beat what we have easily…..anyone have Dermotti Dawson’s number?
by mcclanahanman on Aug 6, 2009 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree about the Center position...
I have actually talked about it being a concern since before the draft. I would LOVE to see Niswanger step up and be the man but, unless the presence of Goff at RG helps take some pressure off, we may be in trouble there. I dont have much faith in Giuciuk so, it seems that w emay need to look outside for a good Center.
I think Herb T will win the job at RT and I think he will be great there. He is one of the guys who I believe will emerge this year. I think he may be one of the best utility O-lineman out there right now. Seriously, he can play nearly every position on the line and when he filled in a LT last season, noone got past him. He played great!
by Chiefsfan1970 on Aug 6, 2009 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Al Davis in the house?
How un/usual is this? Are Davis and the Hunt family close?
by KansasCityShuffle on Aug 6, 2009 5:31 PM CDT reply actions
WTF?
Can anyone give me a shadow of a reason why Al, and his crew would be there? This boggles me a bit. Maybe I just don’t know how camps run very well. Anyone help me out?
Can't wait to put my pads on a Raider, My Helmet on a Hater. I'm the Arrowhead Gladiator!!
by ArrowheadGladiator on Aug 6, 2009 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Perhaps they figure
Al is so far gone to senility that he poses zero risk
by KansasCityShuffle on Aug 6, 2009 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Perhaps it was the first face-to-face
Pioli’s had with Davis as apart of the Chiefs organization and they wanted to make an event of it? With the history of the two teams & families would seem fitting but as A.I. would say, “Practice? Practice”
by KansasCityShuffle on Aug 6, 2009 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Al and Lamar
were very close. No idea what Clark’s exposure to the Davis family was….
by KCSatchmo on Aug 6, 2009 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions
No. That is classic Shuffle sarcasm
Best in the biz.
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by DThomasReigns on Aug 6, 2009 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions
I think
Mr Davis is interested in seeing what a camp looks like with players hitting each other and finishing plays.
Chiefs go 9-7. LJ makes 1400 yards. DBowe makes 1200 yards. Defense #18.
I'm still thrown off by Al Davis' presence
I've been rapping for about seveteen years okay? I don't write my stuff anymore I just kick it from my head you know what I'm sayin? I can do that. No disrespect but that's how I am.
Studemaker looked to be on the ball today.
50 yard TD after Alex Magee forced a fumble from Jackie Battle.
Its going to be hard to figure out whom is going to get cut to make room for Tyson Jackson.
Devard Darling perhaps??
Can't wait to put my pads on a Raider, My Helmet on a Hater. I'm the Arrowhead Gladiator!!
by ArrowheadGladiator on Aug 6, 2009 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions
If that is true
that means Jeff Webb and Quentin Lawrence (and Taurus Johnson) beat out Devard Darling…
Marley will be walking soon...she could probably play Linebacker better than some of the guys we had.
I think Battle's going to be okay
Any time Haley publicly mentions your name (in a positive manner), I think it’s a good thing. He, along with LJ and Charles, have been mentioned the most.
PR point value table
1 Haley mention = 2 Joel praises = 3 Gretz tweets = 5 Looney listings = oppostive of Mortenson
I think thats a typo...
We don’t need any more corners.
I honestly am wondering if Morgan will make the team.
Good point
Hadn’t thought about Dajuan Morgan in a while.
by Chris Thorman on Aug 6, 2009 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions
i don't think he'll make the team
but it’s a shame because he seems like a good player. i wish we could at least get something for him because just letting him go seems like a shame
not sure what is the right one
Gretz says Ryan Succop was 3of 4
and UWRF said he was 3 of 3
Herm is gone things are better with that one move!!
by bringbacktheglory on Aug 6, 2009 8:45 PM CDT reply actions
correct me if i am wrong
but is this REALLY the first we’ve heard out of DJ?
from UW-RF:
Linebackers Derrick Johnson and Corey Mays teamed up to sack quarterback Matt Cassel during the team’s 11-on-11 third down situation drill.
nfl is looking for that yao ming money
Well besides the fact that he was
sitting out a few practices because of a sore hammy, it is a bit slow I guess on DJ news.
Linebackers are always tough to glean info about during camp. It really requires game film to evaluate that position.
by Chris Thorman on Aug 6, 2009 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions
let's hope he is all better now
thanks for the note. i think connerman had summed up nicely how we fans tend to take 2 or 3 sentences from these reports and form hard-lined opinions about their overall performance.
would like to see his name crop up a bit more but i can(‘t?) wait. he’s due for a big year no?
nfl is looking for that yao ming money
by chiefsinchina on Aug 6, 2009 9:45 PM CDT up reply actions
No
a few days ago there was a highlight reporting that DJ came flying through the hole at the goal line and stopped the runner (I think it was LJ) for a 3-4 yard loss.
Marley will be walking soon...she could probably play Linebacker better than some of the guys we had.
Of all the Chiefs players who have been around for a while...
I expect more out of DJ this year than any of them. Seriously, I can’t put a finger on why he hasn’t broken out yet. Dude should be a Pro-bowler.
More Rodney Wright sightings
I’m really not trying to be Rodney’s biggest fan, but look at how much Cassel (first team) went to him in the situational drill today. I have to assume the coaches are giving him a serious shot to be on the team. Odds still seem long with all the names ahead of him. But hey, Wright definitely did better than Darling today…
To wrap up this afternoon’s practice, the Chiefs ran a late-game situation where a touchdown was needed to win. Quarterback Matt Cassel got the drive going, hitting receiver Rodney Wright for a first down. Cassel went back to Wright on the next play, but the ball skipped in front of a sliding Wright. Cornerback Maurice Leggett nearly ended the drive when he stepped in front of a Cassel pass. Facing third-and-ten, Cassel found running back Jamaal Charles out of the backfield for a first down. After spiking the ball to kill the clock on first down, Cassel hit receiver Bobby Engram down the middle for a first down. Wide receiver Mark Bradley hauled in the next pass for another first down. …Cassel tried to go to the endzone with the next two throws, but they landed incomplete. The offense was facing fourth-and-fifteen from the 23-yard line, needing a score. Cassel’s pass was complete to Wright but short of the first down, giving the win to the defense.
So I'm no longer upset by Darling's 86'ing:
Coach Todd Haley has shown no patience for any type of mistakes on the practice field and when wide receiver Devard Darling made one at a critical time, Haley exploded. Darling’s crime was to line up in the wrong place when the Chiefs were working on the victory formation, the one used when a team is trying to run out the clock to secure a late lead.
I've been rapping for about seveteen years okay? I don't write my stuff anymore I just kick it from my head you know what I'm sayin? I can do that. No disrespect but that's how I am.
Well you can't really to be hard on him...
It has been quite awhile since the Chiefs have lined up in the victory formation…
Boomer Sooner!
and
Go Chiefs!
"Meat-man... ever since my son was... never born, because I've never had consensual sex without money involved... I've always kind of looked at you as... a thing, that I could live next to... in accordance with state laws." - Carl
Does any of my first headline make sense?
Lack of sleep I believe is the issue…apologies
should read:
Well you can’t really be too hard on him…
I need a nap
Boomer Sooner!
and
Go Chiefs!
"Meat-man... ever since my son was... never born, because I've never had consensual sex without money involved... I've always kind of looked at you as... a thing, that I could live next to... in accordance with state laws." - Carl
Why is Pioli wearing the top of a set of scrubs?
What the hell is that black jacket/shirt/pullover/windbreaker ridiculousness he’s wearing?
Marley will be walking soon...she could probably play Linebacker better than some of the guys we had.
Maybe
He is pushing for a new nickname…The Surgeon?
Boomer Sooner!
and
Go Chiefs!
"Meat-man... ever since my son was... never born, because I've never had consensual sex without money involved... I've always kind of looked at you as... a thing, that I could live next to... in accordance with state laws." - Carl
This is good
Tank Tyler had some nice penetration into the backfield on several line plays
You know that on every running play, Tyler is being doubled by Niswanger and Waters or Niswanger and Goff. If he is fighting through double teams which include one of those veteran guards, I think that is a good sign
Marley will be walking soon...she could probably play Linebacker better than some of the guys we had.
Good stuff keeps coming out about Tyler every day.
I've been rapping for about seveteen years okay? I don't write my stuff anymore I just kick it from my head you know what I'm sayin? I can do that. No disrespect but that's how I am.

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