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Chiefs Training Camp Update 8/5 PM

From left, Kansas City Chiefs quarterbacks Matt Cassel (7),  Tyler Thigpen (4), Brodie Croyle (12) and Ingle Martin (15) practice together during NFL football training camp in River Falls, Wis., Wednesday, Aug. 5, 2009. (AP Photo/Orlin Wagner)

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3 months ago: From left, Kansas City Chiefs quarterbacks Matt Cassel (7), Tyler Thigpen (4), Brodie Croyle (12) and Ingle Martin (15) practice together during NFL football training camp in River Falls, Wis., Wednesday, Aug. 5, 2009. (AP Photo/Orlin Wagner)

Updated: 8:35 PM All updates are in.

Practice number eight is pretty much in the books for the Kansas City Chiefs. It's scheduled to end at 6:30 today. The team had two practices today, an AM and a PM session. Check out the AM notes here.

Bob Gretz is doing his thing at CBS Sports and we've gathered some more info for you from the usual suspects.

The only updates really missing are the UW-RF's, which we'll have in this post as soon as they're live.

Click through for the ongoing updates of the Chiefs' afternoon session today. We'll put a note above the fold when we've updated.

Star-divide

General stuff
  • Weather: 75 degrees, low winds, 36% humidity (National Weather Service)
  • TE Sean Ryan called this the most physical camp of his five previous stops (Gretz at CBS)
  • Peter King of Sports Illustrated is again in attendance (Peter King Twitter)
  • Jay Glazer of FOX Sports is in attendance (Jay Glazer Twitter)
  • Today’s situational point of emphasis...the red zone. Coach Haley talked through the art of the red zone scramble/route adjustment today. (Josh Looney at the Mothership)
  • Quarterback Ingle Martin was not with the team during practice. Tight end Brad Cottam was back on the field running drills with his team. Guard Wade Smith and running back Kolby Smith still aren’t available. (UW-RF)

Offense

  • Brad Cottam is back from a right ankle injury after missing three practices (Gretz at CBS)
  • Heavy emphasis on red zone corner routes (Josh Looney at the Mothership)
  • There is a heavy focus on red zone offense today and QB Brodie Croyle had the crowds attention with some very nice throws. (Josh Looney at the Mothership)
  • Quarterback Brodie Croyle completed a pass to wide receiver Jeff Webb. Webb made his first move after the reception to his right (east). Head Coach Todd Haley wasn’t impressed with the four-year veteran’s move. "Get up the field, Webb. You don’t run East or West ever," he shouted. (UW-RF)

Defense

  • At the end of afternoon practice, the Chiefs' No. 1 offense had three plays to score from the 10-yard line. On the second play, CB Brandon Flowers intercepted a pass by QB Matt Cassel in the end zone. (Gretz at CBS)
  • Cornerback DaJuan Morgan and linebackers Mike Vrabel, Demorrio Williams and Weston Dacus did not participate in this afternoon’s practice. Instead, the group spent time on field 3, working out. (UW-RF)
  • Defensive Line Coach Tim Krumrie had a new phrase for the defensive linemen at practice today. Krumrie continually yelled, "Don’t be that guy!" when the men were running drills. He meant that the players shouldn’t be the guy to mess up first. (UW-RF)
  • While running the 11-on-11 situation drill, Head Coach Todd Haley grew frustrated with the overall performance of the defense. "Defense, get your (crap) together," he shouted. (UW-RF)
  • Cornerback Brandon Flowers picked off quarterback Matt Cassel’s pass with some help from the linebackers, showing pressure. After Flowers’ interception, the entire defensive squad got hyped up. Prior to the pick, the offense had been looking better than the defense. (UW-RF)

Special teams

  • In a live punt drill, Chiefs rookie WR Quinten Lawrence continued to have problems catching the ball. He fumbled two, including one recovered by the punt team. (Gretz at CBS)
  • The Chiefs are working OLB Andy Studebaker as a long snapper. The only snapper on the roster is rookie Tanner Purdum. (Gretz at CBS)
  • The team has not held an exclusive "special teams practice," yet the coaching staff is finding ways to focus on the teams game multiple times each practice. The periods are somewhat long, about 10 minutes, and quality max-effort reps are taken. The focus this afternoon is punt pro. (Josh Looney at the Mothership)
  • During the team’s punting drill, long snapper Tanner Purdum had two poor snaps in a row. (UW-RF)
  • Haley stopped the drill one play before the end, and said he wanted to see linebacker Andy Studebaker take some snaps. Studebaker’s solo snap was a decent one. (UW-RF)
  • WR Jeff Webb got scolded by one of the coaches. The coach said, "Come on, Webb. Don’t let them split ya." (UW-RF)

Injuries

  • OLB Monty Beisel was missing from both practices (No reason given).  Ingle Martin is also missing the afternoon practice (Gretz at CBS)
  • OLB Mike Vrabel is absent again.  No injury, just a day off (Gretz at CBS)

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I keep hearing the words

“interception” and “Cassel” used a lot in the same sentence…

by KCMizzou on Aug 5, 2009 7:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

yeah followed with "by Brandon Flowers"

that kid is going to be ridiculous this season… and it’s not just Matt that’s throwing interceptions but he’s getting the most attention, so.

by jonnyu on Aug 5, 2009 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

agreed

it may be wishful thinking, but i think it’s more because of our dbs not our qb

by midmochieffan on Aug 5, 2009 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

not to mention...

that these are known passing drills.

by ravenhawk on Aug 5, 2009 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

All right, that's enough..

you guys are making me look bad. HA!

by KCMizzou on Aug 5, 2009 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not necessarily..
Aug 5 2009 | 7:42:18 pm
At the end of afternoon practice, the Chiefs’ No. 1 offense had three plays to score from the 10-yard line. On the second play, CB Brandon Flowers intercepted a pass by QB Matt Cassel in the end zone.

Gretz, CBS

I could get more sacks with my sack

by ArrowSpread on Aug 5, 2009 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

#3

I know he’s made of pretzel but I say we should go into the season with Croyle as our #3. At worst he’s not good enough to start in this league (like majority of # 3’s on NFL depth charts) at best he’s a young, strong armed QB thats taken a while to develop.

by KansasCityShuffle on Aug 5, 2009 7:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I think

that those that think Martin will beat out Croyle are way wrong.

by KCMizzou on Aug 5, 2009 7:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

Braccae illae virides cum subucula rosea et tunica Caledonia-quam elenganter concinnatur!

by Buck'O on Aug 5, 2009 7:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're right

we just waived Martin.

by Reno_Chief on Aug 5, 2009 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What

"He could hear the tone of my voice change and he got this big smile on his face. I melted like butter." Marty on Derrick Thomas. God Bless You, DT
Welcome to the NFL Hall of Fame. You Deserve it :)

by Steve_Chiefs on Aug 5, 2009 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So we just signed Tyson?

"He could hear the tone of my voice change and he got this big smile on his face. I melted like butter." Marty on Derrick Thomas. God Bless You, DT
Welcome to the NFL Hall of Fame. You Deserve it :)

by Steve_Chiefs on Aug 5, 2009 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I see says the Ass

why not trade Ingle to Vkings?

"He could hear the tone of my voice change and he got this big smile on his face. I melted like butter." Marty on Derrick Thomas. God Bless You, DT
Welcome to the NFL Hall of Fame. You Deserve it :)

by Steve_Chiefs on Aug 5, 2009 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agree

He’s a veteran at this point.

by Chris Thorman on Aug 5, 2009 7:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks

The Camping with the Chiefs ones?

by Chris Thorman on Aug 5, 2009 7:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep

and Cox interview, etc. 5 of them?

by NJ Chiefs Fan on Aug 5, 2009 7:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Looks like it

We’ve had issues embedding the video as of late so I just linked them in a FP FanShot now.

by Chris Thorman on Aug 5, 2009 7:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have heard that Croyle and Martin are outplaying Thigpen

in the passing game.
Anybody else hearing this?

"He could hear the tone of my voice change and he got this big smile on his face. I melted like butter." Marty on Derrick Thomas. God Bless You, DT
Welcome to the NFL Hall of Fame. You Deserve it :)

by Steve_Chiefs on Aug 5, 2009 7:21 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

And

To a certain degree expect those two to outplay Thigpen passing the ball. Thigpen’s form passing wasn’t what made him great.

by Chris Thorman on Aug 5, 2009 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was

actually going to mention something about this. A buddy of mine said that someone said Croyle was outplaying Thigpen. I couldn’t remember his source though so I decided not to bring it up. Didn’t hear that about Martin outplaying him though.

by KCMizzou on Aug 5, 2009 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Shift A

Mizzou will help clear all the clutter :)

"He could hear the tone of my voice change and he got this big smile on his face. I melted like butter." Marty on Derrick Thomas. God Bless You, DT
Welcome to the NFL Hall of Fame. You Deserve it :)

by Steve_Chiefs on Aug 5, 2009 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Croyle has a better arm than Cassel

And would be a great threat if he could beef up a little bit to take the beating, he’s a solid number two, but I’d rather see Thigpen playing 2 because that’d be a great “changeup”, if you will, in the offense. I don’t hear of cassel making good plays, only bum throws…

by TonylovesKC on Aug 5, 2009 7:22 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm going to control A now I think

"He could hear the tone of my voice change and he got this big smile on his face. I melted like butter." Marty on Derrick Thomas. God Bless You, DT
Welcome to the NFL Hall of Fame. You Deserve it :)

by Steve_Chiefs on Aug 5, 2009 7:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Shift A not control A :)

"He could hear the tone of my voice change and he got this big smile on his face. I melted like butter." Marty on Derrick Thomas. God Bless You, DT
Welcome to the NFL Hall of Fame. You Deserve it :)

by Steve_Chiefs on Aug 5, 2009 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What would you all think of Tyler Thigpen as the slot receiver?

"He could hear the tone of my voice change and he got this big smile on his face. I melted like butter." Marty on Derrick Thomas. God Bless You, DT
Welcome to the NFL Hall of Fame. You Deserve it :)

by Steve_Chiefs on Aug 5, 2009 7:24 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

After all that....

Martin has been cut.

by KCMizzou on Aug 5, 2009 7:42 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Check Home :)

"He could hear the tone of my voice change and he got this big smile on his face. I melted like butter." Marty on Derrick Thomas. God Bless You, DT
Welcome to the NFL Hall of Fame. You Deserve it :)

by Steve_Chiefs on Aug 5, 2009 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

UWRF site is updating now with the afternoon scoop

by NJ Chiefs Fan on Aug 5, 2009 8:25 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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