Agent: Chiefs LB Zach Thomas Not Retiring
by Joel Thorman on Aug 31, 2009 7:12 PM CDT
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Adam Schefter of ESPN reported within the last hour that Kansas City Chiefs LB Zach Thomas will retire "barring the unforeseen". Well, that unforeseen appears to be rearing it's head. Thomas' agent, Drew Rosenhaus, says his client is not calling it quits.
Zach Thomas is not retiring. He is progressing from his injury & he fully expects to have a great season with the Chiefs in 09.
Um...? Adam Schefter, as we said earlier today, is one of the most trusted voices in the business so I'm not quite sure what to make of this report.
As Josh Looney pointed out just a little bit ago, Zach Thomas hadn't been seen on the practice field for about a week. Today, however, he was out in 'No Man's Land' conditioning.
Rosenhaus may be pulling for an injury settlement for the Chiefs since Thomas is believed to be injured. Thomas' contract won't be guaranteed until day one of the regular season, which means Rosenhaus doesn't get paid until then.
Stay tuned.
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in my best Dark Helmet voice
FOOOL YOUUUU
"I will fight you!"
"What is your weapon?"
"My bare hands!"
"That is stupid. I will use a sword and I will cut off your bare hands."
craziness
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
at least for today!!!
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
"Damn and everyone was bitching that noone covered the Chiefs"
No they weren’t.
I mean, yes they were.
I mean…I just don’t know anymore.
Rectal Froth
So does this mean it "sounds like" Cassel is out for 4-6 weeks now?
He couldn’t get this right so WTF?
It's not for sure yet, maybe ZT is still contemplating it or something.
I’m not one to doubt Schefter =/
by SoCalChief17 on Aug 31, 2009 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah but Schefter might have wanted to ask a few more people before spouting the ZT story
Sounds like many were preparing to talk on that subject. Might have wanted to test the waters on that one.
Is it our own Brett Favre??
"I will fight you!"
"What is your weapon?"
"My bare hands!"
"That is stupid. I will use a sword and I will cut off your bare hands."
Posturing.
He doesn’t want to say Zach Thomas is retiring, because then he doesn’t get any compensation. And Rosenhaus wants all of the money he can get his hands on.
Instead, if Zach doesn’t “retire” and just rides out the wave in KC, the Chiefs have to cut him or reach an injury settlement or something. In that case, at least some money goes to Zach Thomas and, via the agent’s cut, Drew Rosenhaus.
Trust Adam Schefter. Always.
again, i hate to agree with any KU fan...
but, Rockchalk could be right
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
think about this:
IF he is hurt, he doesn’t go against our 53, AND he gets to take advantage of our Doctors. We also get to pick his brain when he’s in the building. sounds like win-win to me.
I the chiefs cut him or he retires Zach gets no money.
No money for Zack means no money for Drew. I think Zach retires. Drew is definitely fishing for a injury pay out.
Quote from Rosenhaus back in May
Zach Thomas feels reborn in KC. He’s very happy to be playing ILB again and really likes the scheme. He will make a ton of tackles this yr.
I should become a sports agent...
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I dont know why everyone says Schefter is so credible...
Schefter is on quite roll reporting things that end up being false. ie Marvin Harrison to the Titans, the schism in Viking land, and now this all with a couple weeks.
by chicks_love_chiefs on Aug 31, 2009 7:20 PM CDT reply actions
Harrison was contacted by the Titans
When they found out how much he was asking they didn’t respond. And I’d believe the schism thing as well.
by SoCalChief17 on Aug 31, 2009 7:21 PM CDT up reply actions
I would believe the schism...
But not any more than you would have in any other locker room in the preseason….
It was manufactured news in that regard…
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I loved JA's quote on that
he thought schism was an STD
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
Jeff Fisher goes out of his way to call bullshit of Schefter.
“We’ve had no contact whatsoever with Marvin or his agent and to be quite honest with you I don’t know where Adam Schefter got that information,” Fisher said Wednesday.
As to the possibility that the Titans might call Harrison in the future, Fisher said, “You’ll have to just stay put and see what Adam says because he’s got a better take on what we’re doing than we do.”
Burn.
by chicks_love_chiefs on Aug 31, 2009 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions
maybe Mort is sabotaging him
"I will fight you!"
"What is your weapon?"
"My bare hands!"
"That is stupid. I will use a sword and I will cut off your bare hands."
by CT Chief Fan on Aug 31, 2009 7:21 PM CDT up reply actions
correction
schefter has been with NFL network the past 5+ years. during his tenure there, yes he has been VERY dependable and known as one of the best in the NFL for reporting breaking news, (along with jay glazer and chris mortensen) glazer on the same level as schefter…id probably take him first overall in a NFL reporter fantasy draft- but lately…mort has been proven wrong…and schefter was wrong about the marvin thing, the titans DID contact him. but this schism thing shouldnt be a big deal but if u want to look at it like he was wrong then i guess go ahead.
schefter WASNT** wrong about the marvin thing
and the schism thing wasnt taken out of context – anything regarding brett favre is now-a-days
i know
at one point he was, i used to be so excited to hear his stuff on sunday mornings- but that shanahan report really hurt his rep.
Same here, man.
My favorite part of NFL Sunday Countdown was listening to Mort’s report. Now, that was partly because of the idiocy of everyone else, but still — he knew his shit.
But he went way out there with the Shannahan rumor, and stood behind it, and then just entirely missed. Like, it wasn’t even a near-miss or anything. It was just brutal. I hope the guy who gave him that info bought him like a car, or something, to say sorry.
I've never liked ESPN- always hated it
Only reason I tolerate it now is because of Schefter. If I wanted my football news, I’d wait to hear what he had to say first. Him leaving the NFLN hurt them badly.
by SoCalChief17 on Aug 31, 2009 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Yea Schefter was a great on-camera personality as well
this new guy Jason La Confora is supposively a “poor man’s Schefter” but no one could fill shoes of the Schefter and his blackberry.
NFLN is still fantastic.
And better than ESPN in every other way.
But yeah, I’m not exactly buying Jason La Canforia. Or whatever. From what I’ve seen, he’s not bad, but it takes awhile to really build up a reputation. I hope he is a stud, though, and can build one up — because NFLN is better in every way.
I love Deion Sanders.
Oh i love NFLN. blows espn out of the water
do you remember last year when the did the big alien-head skit on set before the thursday night games? that was the funniest shit i couldnt stop laughing
Yeah, Rich Eisen is an absolute genius.
He left ESPN like what, 6 or 7 years ago a full year and a half before NFLN even went on air.
Talk about going out on a limb. If that backfires, he is pretty much screwed.
But now, he’s probably more known than most of the SportsCenter anchors, becuase he is THE guy at NFLN.
And he is damn good at his job, too. Oh, I love Rich Eisen. Soo much.
I do too, lol...
He makes me laugh a lot…
He didn’t really do that marvelous at the HOF Ceremony but he is typically amazing…
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Yeah, his HOF stuff wasn't great.
He appeared nervous.
But in studio, nothing fazes him. He is so quick on his feet, which is why him, Mooch and Deion for their NFL recap show is absolute gold. The only NFL show I have to watch every week.
Yea man...
His shenanigans help make the Combine watchable too..
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Hey Farva...
what’s the name of that restaurant you like with all the goofy shit on the walls and the mozzarella sticks?
yeah, you really cant say enough
about that crew…i used to get so mad when Fran Charles would be doing NFL Total Access on the nights Rich Eisen was off. such a let down.
even his stuff
on espn tho, in the early years when he would co-anchor with dan patrick and kenny mayne – just amazing. its so much different now on espn- not like it used to be thats for sure. but thank god they still ahve chris berman for football and kenny mayne for that matter.
Yeah.
I grew up watching ESPN multiple times every Saturday (and weekdays during the summer) with Kenny Mayne and Dan Patrick and all of the other funny people. It was easily my favorite show.
Now, the show sucks. I rarely watch it. It’s all headlines and forums and debates and stupid shit like that.
Just show me the gosh-darn highlights, please, with some funny one-liners thrown in. That’s all I want to see.
My all-time favorite Kenny Mayne-ism:
“That’s his 35th home run. Not in this game, that would be a record.”
He used it for EVERYTHING. It was so funny. Of course, I was like 10 at the time, so that probably influenced it, but still…
Haha.
And yeah, Fran Charles isn’t bad. But, he’s no Rich Eisen.
Jamie Dukes is annoying. I always get mad when he’s on there, but he isn’t nearly as bad as the people on ESPN, so I live with it.
I like Marshall a lot, too. The funniest part of the alien heads thing was Marshall — he like literally couldn’t breathe he was laughing so hard. He thought it was the funniest thing ever.
Fran is annoying to me...
…talks with a voice like he is teaching a kindergarten class, lol…
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hahah
Mooch was my favorite alien-head- Rich Eisen goes “you look like carmen policy!” he goes “ahhh, carmen!” hahah or Deion “that is the best stuff of all time” jus making no sense as usual – but yea i like fran charles hes cool – jamie dukes knows nothing tho. what about at the end of every show during the combine when gruden was there they would like run a play or throw a bomb to schefter and he would fall down almost every time. – i crack up just thinking about it.
im trying to find the youtube video
i used to be able to find it all the time but i cant find it anymore – they probably took it off youtube
Mooch did look ridiculous...
I love their stuff…
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ESPN could definitely learn from them.
ESPN used to be awesome and carefree like that. Now, they just take themselves way too seriously, like they are dealing with something that’s like really important or something.
It’s sports, people. We are watching it to be entertained. Entertain.
Absolutely...
Plus I hate all other sports…So there is no need for anything other than NFLN
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you're right
instead we get guys like robert flores and hannah storm in the morning who arent funny at all – if i hear robert flores pronounce mark sanchez’s name like SON-chez one more time…
yeah ESPN has really went downhill..except for sunday NFL countown or monday night countdown – i enjoy berman they are lucky to still have him.
Oh it is still waaaaay better than espn
I just find myself looking more to Schefter than the Network on a whole now.
by SoCalChief17 on Aug 31, 2009 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Titans contacting Marvin Harrison has been confirmed by a couple of other outlets
Titans HC said that’s not the case, but who knows?
Schism in Vikings land I believe. This idea was floated by PFT months ago when these reports first came out. I definitely believe this one.
by Joel Thorman on Aug 31, 2009 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions
speaking of mort - this is his last tweet
mortreport: Drew Rosenhaus says Zach Thomas not retiring. Only position to take if you want to get paid. Smart agent.
Well, it was kind of taken out of context.
On ESPN Countdown, or whatever the hell the show is called, Schefter said something like: “he won’t be playing for the Chiefs in 2009, now whether that is through Thomas just retiring, or him and the Chiefs coming to an injury settlement or the Chiefs just releasing him remains to be seen. But barring unforseen circumstances, Thomas won’t be playing for the Chiefs in 2009.”
Something like that. HE didn’t come out and flatly say that he was retiring.
Still....just doesn't make sense yet...
This is all so confusing lol…
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Just Tweeting that he is not retiring gets him nothing...
No money…
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it does...
IF the Chiefs were to give him an injury settlement to cut him.
right?
he’d walk with more money than if he retires
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
Yeah.
And if he tweets he is retiring, the Chiefs can call his bluff and just wait for him to retire. Or for him to breach his contract, letting them cut him without payment, etc.
But if he at least keeps it a possibility that he isn’t retiring, he has some leverage.
Well yes, but...
Still doesn’t make a lot of sense…cuz I don’t think they will cut him…hasn’t seemed like that type of injury. Seems more like a rest for the old man…
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but rosenhaus still said
“Zach Thomas is not retiring. He is progressing from his injury & he fully expects to have a great season with the Chiefs in 09.”
he expects to have a great season with chiefs…doing what? mort is a retard i think with that tweet maybe he’s looking at the situation differently? i woulnt be surprised?
i cant wait to see
schefter talk about this if the report that thomas isnt retiring is entirely true. whats he gonna say?
I tend to think
the Titans owner might frequently “do things” without the coaching staff knowing anything about it. Also, weren’t they the team that drafted Vince just because the owner wanted to instead of Leinert (although he hasn’t shown much either). Just sayin’ that the reports could be true and Jeff Fischer’s statements could also be true.
Hopes fade once again from blue to red. Go New Chiefs!!
Yea...the report is inconsisten with things happening anyway...
If he was retiring he would not have been conditioning today…
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lol...
Just wanted to use the equipment while he still could
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Yeah it's like a free 24hr Fitness Membership
it expires tomorrow…It’s the end of the month today haha.
Who linked in ZT's Facebook albums btw
I’ve only seen 4-5 pictures of him chillin since this story broke..
everybody look my face in actually a square!
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Bus Cook also said Brett wasn't coming back
He sure as hell came back. Anything can happen. Schefter knows his stuff.
If Schefter said it...
Then ZT is retiring…
Then again, he did leave it open, saying “barring the unforseen”. So I’ll take it right now that there is a 5% chance he doesn’t retire.
I think Rosenhaus is just trying to leave injury settlement as an option...
If ZT let it slip that he wanted to retire and maybe Rosenhaus wanted him to wait until after he was cut and given an injury settlement. Ultimately Rosenhaus doesnt really get paid until Zach does.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
Then his agent sure is a filthy liar...
Zach Thomas is not retiring. He is progressing from his injury & he fully expects to have a great season with the Chiefs in 09.
I dont get it...
That is the premise of this entire thread…
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So is this fuckin' guy retiring or not?
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Per Schefter – against Dr. recommendations Zach Thomas plans to play for Chiefs in 2009
Ok
I like that answer. I think he’s a beast and his presence will go miles to improving/inspiring the other young LB’s. He and Vrabel are both needed this year.
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Let me make this clear for everyone
Z. Thomas will play as many games in a Chiefs uniform as Ronnie Lott did.
Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."
"My job is not to collect talent, but to build a team. Individuals make the Pro Bowl. Teams win championships. That is our goal."—Chiefs GM Scott Pioli.
with or without
a missing finger?
"I will fight you!"
"What is your weapon?"
"My bare hands!"
"That is stupid. I will use a sword and I will cut off your bare hands."
by CT Chief Fan on Sep 1, 2009 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions
LOL...good point. Forgot about that...and thanks for reminding me of the "finger cutting"story during lunch ;)
Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."
"My job is not to collect talent, but to build a team. Individuals make the Pro Bowl. Teams win championships. That is our goal."—Chiefs GM Scott Pioli.
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