Chiefs Confirm Gailey "Relieved of Duties"; Replacement Coming Soon?
by Joel Thorman on Aug 31, 2009 10:50 AM CDT
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Print(Ed. Note 10:58 AM: I previously titled this "Chiefs confirm Gailey firing" when, based on the language of the press release, may not be accurate. The Chiefs said Gailey has been "relieved" of his duties which might point to him sticking around in some sort of reduced role. When we find further clarification, we'll address it. Thanks. -Joel)
The Kansas City Chiefs have confirmed the Pro Football Talk report that offensive coordinator Chan Gailey has been relieved of his duties. Head coach Todd Haley is expected to address Gailey's departure after practice today.
With the confirmation, this brings up the question: Who will replace Galiey?
To me, there are a couple of options. Maurice Carthon, who Mike Florio suggested or Haley himself, who has experience (and success) as a coordinator last year in Arizona.
Florio suggests Carthon and, on the outside looking in, it makes sense. He's had some friction with players (and fans) in past jobs but he seems to be fitting in well here. And, what seems to be important around here, he's got the connection to the Chiefs brass. Take a look at his previous stops after the jump:
| Year | Team | Position |
| 1994-96 | New England Patriots | Running Backs Coach |
| 1997-2000 | New York Jets | Running Backs Coach |
| 2001-02 | Detroit Lions | Offensive Coordinator/Running Backs |
| 2003-04 | Dallas Cowboys | Offensive Coordinator/Running Backs |
| 2005-06 | Cleveland Browns | Offensive Coordinator |
| 2007-08 | Arizona Cardinals | Running Backs Coach |
Here is a link to a quick bio and an approval rating we ran when Carthon was hired.
Just last week, Haley was praising Carthon, "To get Maurice Carthon here, who I've been with for a bunch years, he has a huge impact on any team he's around. "
Larry Johnson has cited Carthon on numerous occasions as a reason he's "back on board" with the Chiefs new regime.
So, if it's not Haley, then Maurice Carthon makes a lot of sense as the Chiefs next offensive coordinator. Either way, Todd Haley will be addressing the situation this afternoon.
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Carthon
he could be the OC, but Haley could still call the plays
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
That's what I'm thinking.
Similar to the setup that Wisenhunt/Haley had in AZ?
by Justin Bopp on Aug 31, 2009 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions
+1 on Carthon.
Thats who came to mine the second I read about Chan.
by chicks_love_chiefs on Aug 31, 2009 10:54 AM CDT reply actions
Im still just reeling that we "let go" of Chan
two weeks before the season starts. Color me shocked and amazed…
Cry Havoc! And let slip the Chiefs Defense of War!!!
Has Carthon even had success as an O-coordinator?
I don’t think he ran successful offenses in that role.
It might work though
WIth haley calling plays and co-running the OC job
Predictions.
1. Tank Tyler will end up surprising everyone and be the anchor of our line.
"...Said he couldn't go on the American way"
Yeah ...
‘Cause we want a guy still getting his feet wet in his first job as a head coach in the NFL splitting his time between that and co-running the Offense. That’s not a recipe for success.
Being sarcastic is so awesome.
I don’t think our team has the ingredients for success, so we may have to deviate a bit from the recipe.
Btw, do you have this recipe for success handy? I’d like to look at it.
Predictions.
1. Tank Tyler will end up surprising everyone and be the anchor of our line.
"...Said he couldn't go on the American way"
by Jux on Aug 31, 2009 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I do, actually.
It’s a highly valued secret, though, like KFC’s ‘Orignal’ recipe and the recipe for Coca-Cola.
I can’t tell you what is on it. I can tell you this ain’t it.
hahaha.
Alright. I can understand that. But if you do ever change your mind, I hear KC is hungry for some success!
Predictions.
1. Tank Tyler will end up surprising everyone and be the anchor of our line.
"...Said he couldn't go on the American way"
D’Alessandris
is the assistant line coach and brought in by Gaily. Wonder what his status is. I wouldn’t mind seeing him go and bringing in Will Shields as an assistant O-line coach.
You know who has a process?
Dayton Moore… aka GMDM. “Trust the process.”
Royals good right? RIGHT?
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I'm just so sad:(
God I hope they make some moves to cheer us up! I have got a serious case of the Mondays!
Go Chiefs! (tear)
I want K.C. Wolfs' job!
Has Chan been fired?
The official release only says he has been “The Chiefs announced this morning that Gailey has been relieved of his playcalling duties.”
he was taken off Chiefs.com's coaching roster.
He’s no longer with the team.
by Justin Bopp on Aug 31, 2009 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions
I wish my boss would just pay me....
but i wouldn’t have to do any work.
by chicks_love_chiefs on Aug 31, 2009 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions
What do you think F5'ing AP while at work is called?
getting paid for doing what you love!
by Justin Bopp on Aug 31, 2009 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions
Check chiefs.com, AP.
Gailey is not on the field at practice, either.
by Justin Bopp on Aug 31, 2009 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions
That's a nice way of saying...
YERRRRRRR FIRRREEEED!!!!
I couldn't tell ...
Was that a Donald Trump or a Mr. Spacely? I couldn’t quite get the tone over the ’net.
WOW.
Now that’s an idea. I for one welcome our illegal-zone-chop-blocking offense overlords!
by Justin Bopp on Aug 31, 2009 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions
Im starting to think Haley is a fu&*ing idiot and in over his head,Gailey is top flight as far as OC go,I hate this move.
I'm guessing you like Tyler Thigpen too, right?
by Justin Bopp on Aug 31, 2009 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions
AS a QB no,he sucks. Chan Gailey will be on a team in less than 2 weeks
by Bestofthewest on Aug 31, 2009 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions
Haley is ultimately responsible for the plays that are called
It’s his job & reputation that are on the line when the team plays poorly, so if he can’t get on the same page as his OC he SHOULD get someone he can agree with. It seems like it was a frosty relationship from the beginning anyway.
So what youre saying is that if a guy dont agree with Haley he is automatically wrong
by Bestofthewest on Aug 31, 2009 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions
no
I’m saying he works for Haley, and Haley will be the one blamed if the team sinks, so he should have the right to have coaches he wants in there. Just like if someone works for me & they screw up…I have to take the blame (as it should be)
Scapegoat
is what chan gailey is because you cant polish a turd.You gotta work with what you got which in this case aint much.Hey lets spend 60 something million on a QB, and Go all in on a DE. But lets ignore drafting a center or getting a FA for RT.Oh and lets get rid of this guy to misdierct attention.
by Bestofthewest on Aug 31, 2009 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions
If he wanted to use Chan as a scapegoat...
Wouldn’t he have let Gailey fail for the whole year and then blame him?
This is the anti-scapegoat. This means that Haley WANTS the responsibility and is willing to take the blame if it doesn’t work. Haley is a much better play caller and I don’t recall his plays getting his QBs killed so, I think this is a good move.
by Chiefsfan1970 on Aug 31, 2009 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions
I dont think the play calling got anybody hurt,unlike missed blocks on an ineffective line that wasnt fixed or taken care of in the off season
by Bestofthewest on Aug 31, 2009 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions
Haley's offense in Arizona was a quick timing rthym offense
A lot like what they ran in St. L. The QB was kept safe by getting rid of the ball uber-fast. KC doesn’t have the personnel for it. No “quick” WR’s. QB’s hold onto the ball too long. Though Charles would blossom in that O if he could hold onto the ball. The bigger issue is that they haven’t shown this type of offense all pre-season. And it’s a little close to the season to re-invent the wheel. I guess they could use Balt as a scrimmage
You think this was all Haley's call?
Predictions.
1. Tank Tyler will end up surprising everyone and be the anchor of our line.
"...Said he couldn't go on the American way"
i bet
Pioli had his hand in the pot.
Predictions.
1. Tank Tyler will end up surprising everyone and be the anchor of our line.
"...Said he couldn't go on the American way"
Gailey isn't known
For staying in one place for very long at a time so maybe it was a mutual decision.
by mcclanahanman on Aug 31, 2009 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions
I would say do whatever is necessary
to ensure the success of the team. If Haley didn’t think Gailey was working, so be it.
The Chiefs are all over SC
For all the wrong reasons….again.
by chicks_love_chiefs on Aug 31, 2009 11:10 AM CDT reply actions
As Bob Gretz would say...
“The Chiefs are looking around, noone knows what the hell is going on…back to you Mitch.”
by chicks_love_chiefs on Aug 31, 2009 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions
Thiggy trade talks
Bowe benching. TG trade. Good LJ or Baad LJ?
Too much drama.
by NJ Chiefs Fan on Aug 31, 2009 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions
It's not THAT bad
It would be different if Haley had brought Chan in himself and then abruptly fired him, that would be bad. I think this is a case of the team assembling a coaching staff in a hurry & trying to stick with the guys who actually had a clue last year. After working together for a while they found that they’re incompatible, so KC moved on. Better to do it now than midway through the season IMO.
Put it this way
We’ve got a long way to go until we reach Denver and Oakland territory. We’re still the sanest team in the west. (AJ is still i ncharge over at SD remember)
"I will fight you!"
"What is your weapon?"
"My bare hands!"
"That is stupid. I will use a sword and I will cut off your bare hands."
by CT Chief Fan on Aug 31, 2009 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions
Carthon in the booth
Haley on the field both calling plays.
A fan since '90. I cried when Lowery missed the FG :( I was 11.
ne west
Denver has way worse problems than NE or us has had so far this year.
"I will fight you!"
"What is your weapon?"
"My bare hands!"
"That is stupid. I will use a sword and I will cut off your bare hands."
by CT Chief Fan on Aug 31, 2009 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions
Oh god, it COULD get worse.
There’s still the outside shot that we see Haley-bein’-Haley when LJ starts bein’ LJ.
Imagine the LOLz if/when Haley blows up on one of his players on the sidelines!
by Justin Bopp on Aug 31, 2009 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions
From Peter King Today
“Everything the Broncos have touched in the last five months has turned to crap.”
That about sums it up
"I will fight you!"
"What is your weapon?"
"My bare hands!"
"That is stupid. I will use a sword and I will cut off your bare hands."
by CT Chief Fan on Aug 31, 2009 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions
Just sayin'.
We’re not Denver east because we’re not the circus that they have there, much less the success they’ve had the past decade.
We’re not NE West because that all comes down to one player: Tom Brady.
We’re currently a hybrid of a young Parcells team. These are the first cries of a team in its infancy. Neither is an accurate description.
by Justin Bopp on Aug 31, 2009 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, I think so.
That was Crennel’s first year.
by Justin Bopp on Aug 31, 2009 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions
Browns good year was the 07-08 season.
D-Bowe, Mark Bradley, Bobby Engram and Turtle. Four Chiefs WRers. 4 Pro Bowlers.
by Patrick Allen on Aug 31, 2009 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions
yeah i figured that
just needed time to look it up …im lookn up teh stats for 2006 tho…LJ had 1789 rushing yards. =(
It seems to me
that Haley is holding the staff to the same standard as the players. “Do it our way and get the job done if you want to stay here.” We clearly weren’t getting the job done so far. Haley must think one of two things 1-Chan was not getting the most out of our offense and the lack of points were partly his responsibility. 2-Chan was not on the same page and wanted to do things differently then how Haley wants them done. Either one of these (or a combination of both) are a legit reason to make a change. Will things improve? No way to know that now, but it will definately be interesting.
The Good: Hiring Pioli and Haley, Drafting Tyson Jackson
The Bad: The Offensive Line Play
The Ugly: Thigpen Trying to Play QB
But so is Thigpen.
Still showcasing the Broken Ribpen?
by Justin Bopp on Aug 31, 2009 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions
LOL
Bones = Thigpen ;)
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Bwahaha
your “superior talent” and “ability to throw” mean nothing to Bones! Nothing!
Ridiculous Upside: All the "Almost NBA" info you can handle!
by Ridiculous Matt on Aug 31, 2009 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm glad they're addressing the complete lack of offensive rythym
because I’ve cut them slack the first and second preseason games, but we’re only a few weeks away from Week 1 and frankly we look horrible
Thank You Carl Peterson for drafting Dustin Colquitt
by KansasCityShuffle on Aug 31, 2009 11:36 AM CDT reply actions
Dude
that’s the EXACT opposite. That’s why Chan is getting"relieved" because he’s yo-yo himself. They’re looking for consistency and its not losing
Thank You Carl Peterson for drafting Dustin Colquitt
by KansasCityShuffle on Aug 31, 2009 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions
How has Chan "yo-yoed"
offense has been pretty consistently bad this preseason. Personally I blame the oline
One could argue
Chan was the only thing was “up” last season
Thank You Carl Peterson for drafting Dustin Colquitt
by KansasCityShuffle on Aug 31, 2009 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Holy God ... we need a "BREAKING NEWS" scroller across the top
I was screwing around on other threads and then I thought, well I’ll just click on the home page again and see if there are any updates. Holy crap. Gailey ‘relieved’ of duties. WOW. Not exactly short on things to talk about, are we?
This is not surprising at all.
I love Chan based on last year, but you had to see this coming — there is no way a control freak like Haley was going to let someone else call the plays all year. No way. I love it though … these guys are not afraid to let things be. If it ain’t workin right, then FIX IT. Love it.
This isn't what we need to be hearing anyway
How about a C, RG, RT signing
Sign for Levi Jones
Trade for GB’s Scott
Sign one of those old RT’s off of free agency
Bring in Kwame Harris, Jonas Jennings, and Jon Runyan sign the one that looks the best in a tryout to play RT
LT jones/Albert
LG waters
C scott
RG albert
RT Harris/Jennings/Runyan
Draft a C/RG/RT/LT next year
I’d hate to pull Albert out of the LT position but if we have to to solidify the line, we can’t have other teams eating our QBS, Haley and Pioli need to do something yesterday. This would be news not Gailey got fired.
i like that
any change to the line would be fine – im ok with the left side – but center, RG and RT are not ok. at all.
Action and Decision Makers...that's the new Chiefs
Insanity is doing the same thing day iin day out …getting the same resutls. Th change RESULTS, Chiefs are making changes.
Yep,k it’s part of the process of creating a winning team, winning staff, winning franchise.
Agreed
Chan has had time to make a difference and the last game showed us nothing new, no improvement at all.
is it me? or isn't about time the Lamar Hunt trophy belonged to His team?
I’m a Chiefs fan Dammit and I’m damn proud of it!
Question for Joel
Will AP with their new press pass be attending Haley’s press conference this afternoon? If someone was available I think it might be a chance to ask some of the questions brought up here.
is it me? or isn't about time the Lamar Hunt trophy belonged to His team?
I’m a Chiefs fan Dammit and I’m damn proud of it!
he opens a thread with his laptop right there
we’ll be there to ask questions, but he’ll only ask the ones he thinks are press-conference material tho…that would be pretty cool.
Top questions
Who is the starting QB in Balt
Who is calling plays
Who have you signed for the right side of the line today?
How do you keep a 5 o’clock shadow regardless of the time of day?
Two feelings:
One is I like Gailey and I think he is a good coach familiar with the talent. Two I like that there will be accountability on this team. You perform—player or coach—or you’re gone. Would tht Vermeil did that with Greg Robinson.
Also I didn’t think Gailey wanted to be here after he didn’t get the head job.
If there was a fundamental difference in
philosophies which could not be resolved, guess who goes? The offensive coordinator.
Says a lot to the players
Says a lot to the players. Shows that this franchise is serious about winning. Shows that Pioli and Haley WILL NOT and DO NOT mess around. Shows they DEMAND accountability and results. Shows that accountability is not only to the players, but coaches as well. I think this sends a REAL message.
Anyone is expendable. Everyone has to PRODUCE RESULTS.
THis is a shock especially because now thigpen is going to be the starter for a while
And who knows him better than chan . oh well i guess haley wants more control of this team so he can yell at them right there on the sidelines. I swear haley knows what the fuck hes doing in az he ran a really good offense .
FOUR F'S FIND UM FEEL UM FUGUM FORGET UM.
Haley to Gailey
“Put out or get out”
is it me? or isn't about time the Lamar Hunt trophy belonged to His team?
I’m a Chiefs fan Dammit and I’m damn proud of it!
I really didn't think they could co-exist for long.
Even though I liked Chan, what this team needs right now is one voice, one direction. We have to get that O going…
Virtus In Arduo
At least Haley didn't break Gailey's Jaw
Yeah, let's just keep matriculatin' the ball down the field, boys! ...
Probably not going to happen...
…but a sign of Romeo coming?
"I can only imagine what it is going to be like in that town if we are fortunate to build a winner. You win there, you can sense that it would be something really special." - Todd Haley
by Jason Shore on Aug 31, 2009 12:18 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
I dont know why you guys are in love with this regime. This was a Raider move, Fire your coaching staff the 3rd game of PRESEASON. I cant beleive im about to say this, I miss Herm. not really, This is panic mode. Think of all the fans that have gave new regimes the benifit of the doubt before they f’ed it up. Just chill with this blind faith. Chan did good last year for having nothing. Im not buying any tickets til they do something that improves this team, In closer to STL, if I wanted to see a team suck it up Id just go there.
I disagree. This regime has not panicked yet
You can call them cold, calculating, heartless bastards but they haven’t panicked. Hell, they kept Herm on for 2 weeks when my kids knew where that one was headed. They didn’t jump into the head coach fray just to jump in. They didn’t go free agent wacko like Crazy Al. I’m not entirely comfortable with this firing, but I am glad to see that they recognize there is an issue and are trying to address it whether trading for O-lineman, benching “star” players or firing a coordinator. Who knows how this is all going to go, but it’s good to see action taken. The last regime would have given a coordinator that wasn’t performing a hug. Well maybe not Krumrie. He prefers a swift kick to the groin when showing affection.
we will be fine (BREAKING NEWS)!! I’ve just heard that we are bringing in Matt Jones and Levi Jones right now as we speak or sometime this afternoon!!
AGAIN?
Thats the second time I heard that this week, it must be true! :)
"I will fight you!"
"What is your weapon?"
"My bare hands!"
"That is stupid. I will use a sword and I will cut off your bare hands."
by CT Chief Fan on Aug 31, 2009 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions
big surprise (it seems)
I wonder if Haley/Pioli always saw this event as a real possibility or even probability from beginning. Keep the guy on and see how it works but be ready to dump him. I always thought it rather curious to keep the old regime guy around. Plus I always thought it was curious that Carthon besides running back coach also carries the Assistant Head Coach title (and not Assistant TO the Head Coach).
Hopes fade once again from blue to red. Go New Chiefs!!
Look people regardless of who is play calling from now on we are going to score but it will not be with thiggy I think it will be Cassel but if they dont want to take any changes it will be Guetazzi (the guy from the patriots) but now we will see all those tricky plays that the cardinals ran last year Come on lets be honest were not going to score against Oakland with that weak ass play calling we had with Gailey anyone agree??
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