Chiefs Claim OLB Vince Redd Off Waivers from the Patriots
by Joel Thorman on Aug 3, 2009 4:04 PM CDT
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The Kansas City Chiefs have claimed outside linebacker Vince Redd off of waivers from the New England Patriots according to Adam Caplan of Scout.
A 6'6", 260 pound outside linebacker, Redd saw limited action in five games with the Patriots last season. He was signed as an undrafted free agent on May 2, 2008 and appeared in five of the team's final six games accumulating two tackles.
From what I can gather, he's a special teams guy. Here's what Pats Pulpit had to say about him:
A productive special teamer, Vince saw action in 2008 as a reserve. With a year in the system under his belt, he'll be a nice reserve option when called upon and a necessary guy on special teams.
The irony here is that he was thought to be one of the candidates to try and replace Mike Vrabel, who was sent to Kansas City in a trade.
Here's the deal with the roster number. This makes 82 players on the official roster. 80 is the maximum for training camp. One, Tyson Jackson hasn't signed so his spot doesn't count. Two, players on the PUP list do not count towards the 80 man roster (for now).
I'm still keenly watching the roster list to determine if anyone has or will be cut.
The Chiefs are third in the waiver wire so the Detroit Lions and St. Louis Rams passed on him.
Redd went to Liberty and hails from Elizabethton, TN.
Edit: I added a few links and quotes after the jump
Pre-draft interview with Vince Redd
What do you feel is your greatest strength as a football player and what area do you feel you need to improve in?
Vince Redd: Strengths are my vision and my wingspan and I need to work on my overall strength.
Mike Reiss of the Boston Globe: Vince Redd Analysis
As a sturdy player who runs well enough to play on the punt team, the 6-foot-6, 260-pound Redd had shown promise toward the end of the 2008 season.
"I just think where we are defensively, there are probably other teams that he might fit a little better schematically, with the skills that he has," Patriots coach Bill Belichick said.
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I'm not clear on PUP
Do they still count against the 80? And where did Tony Curtis disappear to?
Chiefs go 9-7. LJ makes 1400 yards. DBowe makes 1200 yards. Defense #18.
Thx 4 tellin' us.
I was about to needle Zode for not readin’ the damn article. Sorry, Zode.
On a trip to the U.N. in New York City, the Dalai Lama sneaked out of his hotel to break his vows and eat an American hot dog. Checking up and down the street for witnesses, he whispered to the vendor "Make me one with everything."
meh
If NE put him on the wire and he’s an OLB he must not be all that special seeing as NE is starving for OLB’s
Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.
I'm with you Nanz. Meh
I’d rather wait until some of the roster cut-down days and bring in some of those casualties. There will always be some guys that teams didn’t want to get rid of but had to for various reasons.
Braccae illae virides cum subucula rosea et tunica Caledonia-quam elenganter concinnatur!
That's kinda the first approximation, Nanz.
But it’s really hard to tell. And it’s hard to tell what kinds of LB NE’s starving for. They have a well-established front 3, which prob’ly has them looking for slightly different types of players behind them, and the departure of McGinest and Seau prob’ly sees a LOT of new LB faces in Foxboro. Chiefs are definitely interested in OLBs with some DE measurables. If all the Chiefs were doing were looking for big OLB castoffs from NE, Willie McGinest would already be here.
Chiefs might be looking to keep getting bigger, too. Certainly their two speedster LBs, Johnson and Williams, aren’t looking very strong right now. But that’s probably a totally separate issue.
In general, I like seein’ the size, wingspan, NE experience and Pioli’s familiarity with him. "Redd"’s a good last name for a man playin’ for the Chiefs, too. I liked his to-the-point answer on the strengths and weaknesses question. Picking up a LB with the “ST” checkbox filled is also good to see.
On a trip to the U.N. in New York City, the Dalai Lama sneaked out of his hotel to break his vows and eat an American hot dog. Checking up and down the street for witnesses, he whispered to the vendor "Make me one with everything."
Interesting pick-up
If he makes the cut, most likely special teams contributor and/or backup
"I can only imagine what it is going to be like in that town if we are fortunate to build a winner. You win there, you can sense that it would be something really special." - Todd Haley
by Jason Shore on Aug 3, 2009 4:14 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Vrabel meet your new roomie
6’ 6 and 260 is the standard size for Patriot LB’s
He sure doesn’t look 260 in the picture
Ryan Succop will Kick Two clutch kicks that will directly affect Said game.
Rule 49. " Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram
Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying
+1
He looks tiny.
"...Said he couldn't go on the American way"
by Jux on Aug 3, 2009 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Except that he's 6'6"
He must be SOLID
Chiefs go 9-7. LJ makes 1400 yards. DBowe makes 1200 yards. Defense #18.
yeah
but look at those arms. I have bigger arms than that lol
"...Said he couldn't go on the American way"
by Jux on Aug 3, 2009 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions
But Jux You are a Beast :)
Ryan Succop will Kick Two clutch kicks that will directly affect Said game.
Rule 49. " Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram
Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying
if he turns sideways though
His ass sticks out about 3 feet
Chiefs go 9-7. LJ makes 1400 yards. DBowe makes 1200 yards. Defense #18.
Draft prospect interview
http://www.thefootballexpert.com/vinceredddraftinterview080001.html
Negative Ghost Rider the pattern is full...
Analysis on Redd
http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/reiss_pieces/2009/08/vince_redd_anal.html
Ryan Succop will Kick Two clutch kicks that will directly affect Said game.
Rule 49. " Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram
Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying
Soon as I saw this release last night...
I knew we would be signing him for some reason.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
Another thing in regards to the roster...
Haley was awful dodgey today in his press conference about two guys(TEs?) not practicing. Someone asked 2-3 times whether they were still on the roster an he blew off the question.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
FOXBOROUGH — In a surprise move by the team, the Patriots have released linebacker Vince Redd the team announced Sunday. The Patriots signed LB Rob Ninkovich to take Redd’s spot and re-signed DB Jamar Love.
Redd was signed as an undrafted rookie free agent signed by the Patriots in 2008. The 6-6, 260-pound defender attended a little known program at Liberty under Coach Rocco. Redd was a transfer from Virginia where he learned defense under the watch of coach Al Groh – a long time Belichick friend.
The decision to release Redd was unusual considering the lack of depth at the position of outside linebacker and Redd’s standing in the compeition at the position behind starters Pierre Woods and Adalius Thomas.
The decision to relase Redd was a matter of trying to fit a square peg in a round hole.
"Vince came in here as a free agent, made the practice squad and ended up playing at the end of the season," said Belichick. "I just think where we are defensively, there are probably other teams where he would fit a little bit better schematically in with the skills that he has."
h/t
http://www.csnne.com/2009/08/03/patriots-release-lb-redd-sign-lb-ninkovich-db-love-13-40/
Negative Ghost Rider the pattern is full...
We'll see if he can play or not.
I for one am glad they are bringing in lots of people… Even if he turns out to be a MEH!
This guy seems to have the numbers of a freak athlete...
Redd, at his Pro Day, measure 6’6", 262 pounds and ran the 40-yard-dash in 4.56 seconds, had a vertical jump of 39" and a broad jump of 9’10". He completed 13 reps at 225 pound in the bench.
Here is a youtube video of Vince Redd…its not a very good one but it gives you an idea about him
"You can live for Nothing or die for Something, it's your call" - John Rambo
Not so flattering
Patriots’ trash is Chiefs’ treasure
Redd has the size to be a solid player (6′6″, 260 lbs.) but he hasn’t shown that he’s capable of making the big plays needed at that spot. Still, it’s beginning to look as though the New England to KC pipeline is fully operational, which bodes well for the Chiefs depth this season.
His physical abilities are impressive, but...
…I just can’t get too excited about an OLB cut by a team that needs OLBs. If he’s a solid special teamer, then great. I’m not sure that he upgrades our LB group…
You are what your record says you are!
Really wonder if he will be camp fodder
or a message to some unnamed OLB?
Ryan Succop will Kick Two clutch kicks that will directly affect Said game.
Rule 49. " Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram
Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying
Well I'm not sure where he would have a spot...
As camp fodder, a special teams guy, or maybe Pioli thinks he could make an impact for us at OLB. He has nice size, a crazy 40 time, but only 13 reps?
As the Pats are starved at the OLB position, we don’t really have a sure fire answer either…Let’s see what the boy can do!
Meh
That’s really all I’ve got on this signing. He’s 24 so I suppose he might have some upside we haven’t seen, but overall it’s still “meh”.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
3. Maurice Carthon will be the most hated man on the Chiefs' coaching staff within two years.
4. Larry Johnson has already played his last meaningful game for the Kansas City Chiefs. He's gone before the 2009 season starts.
5. Larry Johnson will gain 0 yards rushing for the 2009 Kansas City Chiefs.
6. The Chiefs will go 7-9 in 2009, good for 2nd in the AFC West.
7. Ryan Succop will not perform better in 2009 than Connor Barth did in 2008.
Depth is depth
it doesn’t hurt anything and given that the Chiefs have gone one deep at so may positions over the past couple of years I look at this as just being a backup/special teams player. This is the kind of guy you always seem to need around the 6th or 7th game of the season due to injuries. If he sticks thats great, if not its no big deal.
A productive special teamer
Special Teams is targeted as the area for improvement in 2009. Lord knows we can and should improve on O & D, but Special Teams is the target. There were probably 4 draft picks made with this in mind. Washington & O’Connell were vertical champs in this year’s combine, Lawrence running returns, & Succop. I could be wrong, but I’m taking the GM & Coach at their word.
Yeah. We expect to see extra LBs on the roster for filling out the 3-4 and for kick coverage.
He may be a legit challenger for regular defense, too. He didn’t work out in Vrabel’s old spot, but, after all, we already have Vrabel. Perhaps this is a shot across the bows of Studebaker and Walters, or maybe McBride and Hali.
I’m seeing the kinds of new faces that I expected to see. After months of almost NO activity, the Chiefs are on the march. We’ve been sayin’ that a lot of evaluation can’t take place until they put the pads on, and now that they’re in camp, their willingness to be aggressive with personnel changes is pretty apparent.
On a trip to the U.N. in New York City, the Dalai Lama sneaked out of his hotel to break his vows and eat an American hot dog. Checking up and down the street for witnesses, he whispered to the vendor "Make me one with everything."
Reason he's leaving NE is he's not as explosive as his closest competitor.
He’s probably as quick off the blocks as DE-trained Hali and McBride. And this defense will lean toward accommodating Hali.
On a trip to the U.N. in New York City, the Dalai Lama sneaked out of his hotel to break his vows and eat an American hot dog. Checking up and down the street for witnesses, he whispered to the vendor "Make me one with everything."
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