Chiefs Training Camp Update 8/3 AM
by Joel Thorman on Aug 3, 2009 11:55 AM CDT
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Updated: 12:54 PM
Josh Looney over at the Mothership calls today a "hump day" because the excitement of camp is wearing off and the mental and physical aspects of camp become more taxing.
It will be interesting to see how this team responds to another set of two-a-days following three high-energy practices. The pre-camp adrenaline rush has likely faded by this point. This morning’s practice session may be a mental test for this team, while the afternoon period will likely test the physical side of things. Ice baths between practices keep the legs fresh and are a must hump day.
The team started the day with position drills and moved onto 11 on 11 work.
After the jump, we've got updates from all the usual suspects. This post will be updated as more info from UW-RF and Bob Gretz comes through.
General stuff
- The Oscar Meyer Weiner Mobile is in attendance (Josh Looney Twitter). And people went "bonkos" over it (Mitch Holthus Twitter). Holthus was "mesmerized" (Kent Babb Twitter)
- There was some rain overnight, which caused for some wetness on the field. Groundsman Andre Bruce got everything ready for the third consecutive AM practice in full pads (Josh Looney at the Mothership)
- If you're offsides, you're running 200 yards (Josh Looney at the Mothership)
- Quote of the day from Coach Haley: 'I don't want yo-yo players or a yo-yo team' (ChiefsPR Twitter)
- Haley is wearing a Dallas Texans hat (ChiefsPR Twitter)
- Todd Haley can multi-task: Biking and texting at the same time (Kent Babb Twitter)
Offense
- Cassel hit TE Sean Ryan in the corner of the end zone for a score. Looney calls this the play of the day (Gretz at CBS and Looney on Twitter). Javarris Williams picked up a blitzing Bernard Pollard on the play (Mitch Holthus Twitter)
- Line drills are highlighting qualities in each running back. LJ and Jackie Battle are the power guys and Jamaal Charles and Dantrell Savage are the quick guys (Josh Looney at the Mothership)
- A running back made a nice pass block that saved a safety (Mitch Holthus Twitter)
- The quarterbacks practiced rolling out to the left and hitting a target. Croyle was 1/5, Thigpen 0/5 and Cassel 0/3 (UWRF)
- FB/TE Jed Collins made a nice grab on a throw that was high from Croyle (UWRF)
- Thigpen hit Webb near the sidelines and barely got both feet in. Pollard was excited that Webb made the catch. Haley said, "Good job, Webb." (UWRF)
- Quinten Lawrence jumped offsides on one play. Haley yelled, "Get him out of there," at which point Engram replaced him (UWRF)
- Cassel hit Mark Bradley for a 35-40 yard gain (UWRF)
- Croyle hit Rodney Wright for a completion on the sidelines (UWRF)
Defense
- UDFA Jovan Belcher knocked over Damion McIntosh on a pass rush (Gretz at CBS)
- Tamba Hali drilled Mike Goff on a play that could be heard across all three practice fields (Gretz at CBS)
- Tank Tyler made a number of nice plays when they had the offense backed up agains their own goal line (Josh Looney at the Mothership)
- Mike Vrabel looked impressive today against the offensive tackles after taking extra time after practice with line coach Tim Krumrie yesterday (Josh Looney at the Mothership)
- Brandon Flowers looked very sharp on a long pass route alongside Dwayne Bowe (Josh Looney at the Mothership). Flowers also caused Cassel to overthrow Darling on another pass (UWRF)
- Andy Studebaker missed a Croyle interception and shouted obscenities (UWRF)
- Rookie defensive end Alex Magee continued to see time with the first-string, as he has been all of training camp thus far. (UWRF)
- Linebacker Derrick Johnson was in full pads and practicing this morning after sitting out the last two practices. Johnson wouldn’t return to practice with his team the remainder of the morning. (UWRF)
- While the defensive line worked on the single sled, Defensive Line Coach Tim Krumrie shouted, “Tattoo that son of a (gun), and snap his head back. Fly back his (butt)!” (UWRF)
- After a drill, linebacker Mike Vrabel, a 13-year veteran, was showing two-year linebacker Andy Studebaker how he should be using his arms during the drill. (UWRF)
Special Teams
- Succop was 3/4 on field goals. He hit the right up right from 35 yards but made from 39, 42 and 44 yards (Gretz at CBS)
- Succop had LOTS of room to spare (Josh Looney at the Mothership)
- Succop needs a nickname. Colquitt is the leg, what should Succop be? (Josh Looney at the Mothership)
- Kicking off, Succop's kicks traveled to the end zone from the 45 yard line (UWRF)
Injuries
- Glenn Dorsey still not practicing (Kent Babb Twitter)
- Damion McIntosh is back (Josh Looney at the Mothership)
- Derrick Johnson started the day practicing, then came out after the walk through
- Demorrio Williams was doing conditioning stuff (UWRF)
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Haley is wearing a Texans hat???
I bet that pisses off the guys. Funny!
Dallas, not Houston.
It’s a throwback hat.
by NJ Chiefs Fan on Aug 3, 2009 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh, I guess thats a little different...
Too bad, that would have motivated the hell out of the players since we are playing them in two weeks.
ONLY 2 WEEKS! Can you freakin believe it?
by Chiefsfan1970 on Aug 3, 2009 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Belcher is one guy doing what he needs to do to make this team.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
that's HUGE
they say protection is the toughest thing for a rookie to pick up in the NFL.
if he continues blocking and playing special teams, he’s going to be a factor.
"I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
exactly Ive seen some people say he wont make the cut
but I seem to think dif. and this just helps his cause b/c we could use the protection on third and long(hopefully we dont see too many of those)
I think he makes the team FOR SURE
he’s a draft pick… he’d have to be pretty bad not to make the team, IMO
and, now he’s showing that he can play
"I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
Exactly - you draft them just to get rid of them
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Only if you are the Raiders
=)
Marley will be walking soon...she could probably play Linebacker better than some of the guys we had.
Haha - typo
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thats what I thought to but I saw something
a while back saying that he wouldnt make the final cut I say Kolby and Battle get the axe
As much of a fan I am of Kolby...
I think that he will get the axe… I think Jackie Battle will keep his spot, he is out there playing hard in training camp.
I'd also like to see 'em 2-deep in power backs.
And despite being known mainly for being a BIG back, Battle has an extra gear. I know a lot of guys like seeing VARIETY in the RB corps, but I prefer to see more versatility in ALL RBs and more overlap between individual players’ skill sets. They telegraphed too much by their personnel packages the last couple of years.
On a trip to the U.N. in New York City, the Dalai Lama sneaked out of his hotel to break his vows and eat an American hot dog. Checking up and down the street for witnesses, he whispered to the vendor "Make me one with everything."
You wonder when Vrabel and Krumrie get together who is coaching who?
Ryan Succop will Kick Two clutch kicks that will directly affect Said game.
Rule 49. " Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram
Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying
My guess
is that Krumrie spotted some things which are happening on the field w/ the DL and asked Vrabel to watch for them and straighten the guys out.
I've been rapping for about seveteen years okay? I don't write my stuff anymore I just kick it from my head you know what I'm sayin? I can do that. No disrespect but that's how I am.
okay, be practical soybon :)
First, don’t you love the fact that there are respected vets showing the others that just because the horn blows, it doesn’t mean some individual work can’t still be done? Stick around and figure out the little things that make teams winners.
And I imagine Vrabel had questions about “what if this or that?” or “how do you want to play this?” or “in the 3-4, we had success if the DE did this — do you ever see us doing that?”
Finally…weren’t there questions about Vrabel and Waters a few weeks ago regarding their happiness about playing for the Chiefs? hmm…not hearing/seeing any signs of disgruntledness, are we? And with a twitter on every corner of the practice field, we would have heard it by now, don’t you think?
From Post-AM interview 8/3
Q: Yesterday after practice Mike Vrabel sought out coach Tim Krumrie to give him some pointers on some moves. What does it say about a veteran player who’s still looking for assistance and teaching after so many years in the league?
HALEY: "I think there’s a reason why players are what they are. We talked about this in the off-season. These guys that we brought in, whether it was through trade or free agency, have all got a couple of common characteristics: they’ve been able to have a long-lasting career in the league and there’s a reason why. They prepare the way they have to prepare, they practice the way they have to practice. They work on the fundamentals. They don’t think they have all the answers. They continue to strive to get better every day and I believe that whether it’s Zach Thomas, Mike Goff, Brian Waters or Mike Vrabel, they’re trying to get better every day and that’s what has made them what they are to this point in their careers."
I've been rapping for about seveteen years okay? I don't write my stuff anymore I just kick it from my head you know what I'm sayin? I can do that. No disrespect but that's how I am.
+1 for the quote. -1 from your previous conclusion based on that quote. :o)
Vrabel’s pretty much what I hoped and expected, so far.
On a trip to the U.N. in New York City, the Dalai Lama sneaked out of his hotel to break his vows and eat an American hot dog. Checking up and down the street for witnesses, he whispered to the vendor "Make me one with everything."
you mean:
-1 from my previous conclusion based on speculation =)
I've been rapping for about seveteen years okay? I don't write my stuff anymore I just kick it from my head you know what I'm sayin? I can do that. No disrespect but that's how I am.
Succop needs a nickname. Colquitt is the leg, what should Succop be?
i thought succop already had a nickname. "mr. irrelevant.?
Succop could be "The Boot"
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Das Boot
Ryan Succop will Kick Two clutch kicks that will directly affect Said game.
Rule 49. " Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram
Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying
by Steve_Chiefs on Aug 3, 2009 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Ryan "the boot" Succop?
Somehow doesn’t have a ring! Hard to come up with anything rather than the obvious “suck-up”. This would be a good poll question for the whole group! Ryan “the toe” Succop doesn’t sound quite right either!
last name is pronounced "Soo-cop"
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Well somebody please tell Petro that lol
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Perhaps in the wake of the Beer Summit
and the pronunciation of his name, how about “Ryan ’don’t give me any lip’ Sue Cop”
On a trip to the U.N. in New York City, the Dalai Lama sneaked out of his hotel to break his vows and eat an American hot dog. Checking up and down the street for witnesses, he whispered to the vendor "Make me one with everything."
I like Das Boot.
“In the waning seconds of the 4th quarter, Das Boot’s 40-yard FG torpedoed the Ravens’ hopes for victory in their home-opener.”
On a trip to the U.N. in New York City, the Dalai Lama sneaked out of his hotel to break his vows and eat an American hot dog. Checking up and down the street for witnesses, he whispered to the vendor "Make me one with everything."
No need to say "Ryan" or "Succop" - just say the boot
And we’ll know
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Also worth noting
That Dustin “The Leg” Colquitt doesn’t have much of a ring either!
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This missed field goal actually hit the left upright, not the left
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*not the right
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I like that good stuff Keeps coming up about Hali and Tyler.
I've been rapping for about seveteen years okay? I don't write my stuff anymore I just kick it from my head you know what I'm sayin? I can do that. No disrespect but that's how I am.
Bad news for Turtle
From UWRF:
Quarterback Tyler Thigpen threw a sideline pass to wide receiver Jeff Webb. Webb was able to get both feet down before falling out of bounds. Pollard was impressed, jumping up and down, hollering in excitement. Head Coach Todd Haley had seen the play as well, and said, "Good job, Webb." to the four-year receiver.
Chiefs go 9-7. LJ makes 1400 yards. DBowe makes 1200 yards. Defense #18.
Dorsey the liar
Q: Do you expect to be 100% by training camp?
A: Yes, I should be 100%.
Q: How important is training camp going to be for you, since you missed some drills and practices?
A: You don’t want to miss anything. I’ve missed practices so I have a lot of catching up to do. It’s going to be important to be in shape and get into the flow of things.
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Calling him a liar is a bit harsh
He was just being optimistic.
However if he isn’t doing everything he can do to get better than yes he is a liar, but unless we hear reports stating such I think we should hold on attacking his character.
Though I do definitely want to see him out there practicing and starting to get concerned.
by Scaryclouds on Aug 3, 2009 12:51 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I kid, I kid
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we have a NT, folks
DT Tank Tyler made a number of nice plays in stopping the run game when the offense was backed up near their own goal line.
Hopefully, we’ll see lots more good plays from Tank
"I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
I think he had a good stop against New Orleans too - remember that game?
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The value of Vrabel
From UWRF:
After a drill, linebacker Mike Vrabel, a 13-year veteran, was showing two-year linebacker Andy Studebaker how he should be using his arms during the drill. As the two walked away, joining the rest of the linebackers on field 1, Studebaker patted Vrabel on the bacJust can’t overstate the value of a guy with experience being a leader.
Chiefs go 9-7. LJ makes 1400 yards. DBowe makes 1200 yards. Defense #18.
From Gretz 8/2 pm
- ILB Zach Thomas got very deep in pass coverage and broke up a throw in the middle of the field. Good drop and good reactions from Thomas.
Haven't seen anything about Zach today
he was talked about a lot yesterday, but haven’t seen his name mentioned today
Chiefs go 9-7. LJ makes 1400 yards. DBowe makes 1200 yards. Defense #18.
Haven't heard anything on Brown
But D-Mac just practiced for the first time today. Somehow I wouldn’t be surprised to see Taylor take over RT and Dmac back up Albert. I don’t think Brown will be ready to start this year.
Chiefs go 9-7. LJ makes 1400 yards. DBowe makes 1200 yards. Defense #18.
Here's something on Brown
From UWRF
Haley was asked to comment on the progression of fifth-round pick offensive tackle Colin Brown. Haley said that Brown was learning on the run. "He dropped a bunch of weight to give himself a chance to compete, so he probably is feeling a little light and not as strong." Haley was then asked what he thought of the line as whole. "I am encouraged by what I am seeing. It’s only day three and way too early to make evaluations, but I like what I see so far," Haley said.Sounds like he’s got a ways to go.
Chiefs go 9-7. LJ makes 1400 yards. DBowe makes 1200 yards. Defense #18.
I'm excited!
Thanks for the updates.
Yes, I'm still alive. Sorry to disappoint you.
by royaldaddy on Aug 3, 2009 12:49 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
This is a great video of Chiefs D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijqEK2LCvLM
LMAO!!
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If you don't watch the whole thing skip over to 3:27 on hehe
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Gretz has his summary up
From that:
In the one-on-one pass protection-rush, NT Tank Tyler and LB Brian Waters had a great battle for three snaps; neither one had the advantage … rookie DE Alex Magee had several nice rushes against Wade Smith, Darryl Harris and Goldberg; Magee beat Smith with the same move he beat him with in yesterday’s practice and he got Goldberg on a nice spin move … at RT Herb Taylor had a nice series against DE Wallace Gilberry, taking two of the three snaps and working the third to a draw … Hali ran around Richardson at one point, but the tackle came back to put in two nice snaps against the outside linebacker.
Chiefs go 9-7. LJ makes 1400 yards. DBowe makes 1200 yards. Defense #18.
Sound like Tank
Had a good morning. Standoff with Waters. Good plays on run drills. We need a stout NT.
Chiefs go 9-7. LJ makes 1400 yards. DBowe makes 1200 yards. Defense #18.
I'm sure that he was a little embarassed yesterday
… by Eric Ghiracak pushing him over.
to be fair...McIntosh isn't all bad
Tackle Damion McIntosh was in full pads for the first time this season. McIntosh jumped right back in with the first-string. Head Coach Todd Haley commented later that is was good to have McIntosh back in pads. "He is working hard on his body," Haley said. McIntosh had a huge pancake block of defensive end Alfonso Boone in 2-on-1 blocking.
http://www.uwrf.edu/chiefs/prev_updates.php?page=2&Files=090803am.htm
"I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
The MOUTH
From Gretz:
The offensive coaching staff now has a guy who might be as loud as defensive line coach Tim Krumrie, and that’s offensive line coach Bill Muir. RT Damion McIntosh returned to work and Muir had several barbs pointed in his direction. Same for rookie free agent LT Cameron Goldberg out of Duke.
Chiefs go 9-7. LJ makes 1400 yards. DBowe makes 1200 yards. Defense #18.
I love what we are doing but..
I don’t know, the right side kind of worries me. I can’t wait to see Dorsey and Jackson back together!
Sounds like he's got some good moves
he may be end up being a big contributor in his rookie season
by KansasCityShuffle on Aug 3, 2009 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Look at his history. Listen to him talk. Watch him play.
He’s always been a man among boys, and will quickly become a man among men, imo. Very special kind of player. Mature beyond his years.
On a trip to the U.N. in New York City, the Dalai Lama sneaked out of his hotel to break his vows and eat an American hot dog. Checking up and down the street for witnesses, he whispered to the vendor "Make me one with everything."
Anyone else notice?
That when Albert false started or jumped offsides (can’t remember which one) and had to go run, it wasn’t taylor that replaced him….it was Richardson (think it was in Gretz’s report)? Surprised me, wonder if they wanted to see if he had improved his quickness at LT or what, but never thought we would see him over there. Could just be one of those camp things to give him a couple reps and see but I am going to keep my ears open and see if they are working him as a backup on that side or just trying to get him a little familiar just in case.
I noticed that
And it also seems like Herb Taylor is seeing quite a bit of time at RT. Could the writing be on the wall for Dmac?
Chiefs go 9-7. LJ makes 1400 yards. DBowe makes 1200 yards. Defense #18.
Dmac
has only had one practice so far. He got beat according to reports, but also pancaked Boone.
by NJ Chiefs Fan on Aug 3, 2009 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions
that is interesting
we could be seeing Herb as the new RT, B Rich as a backup LT or LG (where he practiced the other day)
"I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
Yes
it’s interesting he’s taken reps at 3 different positions. This means he’s certainly not being overlooked and if anything he’s slated ahead of Brown on the depth chart
by KansasCityShuffle on Aug 3, 2009 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions
good signs for the pass rush
A session with the defensive lineman and the offensive lineman, running a 2-on-1 blocking drill was dominated by the defense. The stand-out of the drill was defensive end Alex Magee. Magee destroyed offensive linemen Mike Goff and Wade Smith on separate occasions. Linebackers Mike Vrabel and Tamba Hali were present for half the drill. Hali made an athletic move to shoot to the inside of Barry Richardson without being touched.
"I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
more on the OL and Colin Brown
Haley was asked to comment on the progression of fifth-round pick offensive tackle Colin Brown. Haley said that Brown was learning on the run. "He dropped a bunch of weight to give himself a chance to compete, so he probably is feeling a little light and not as strong." Haley was then asked what he thought of the line as whole. "I am encouraged by what I am seeing. It’s only day three and way too early to make evaluations, but I like what I see so far," Haley said
http://www.uwrf.edu/chiefs/prev_updates.php?page=2&Files=090803am.htm
That’s encouraging news so far!
"I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
Wow! lots of encouraging news from camp...
Bring on the Texans!!!
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