The Offensive Line Shakeup
Bringing in two players from the Dolphins, it is more than likely that both of these players will have a spot on the nine-man OL roster come opening day against the Ravens. As much as Haley argues that the best players will be on the team (and I have every reason to believe that Alleman and Ndukwe are among the best 9 OL we have right now), draft picks are currency. We just spent some of that currency by trading for Andy Alleman and Ikechuku Ndukwe, and there's no chance we release these guys as we whittle down to the 53. They will be on the roster when we face the Ravens.
But where? And who does this push out?
Well as I drew up a depth chart not too long ago on this site that attempted to place what I thought would be the starting OL on this team (forgive the fact that I put ten players down instead of nine):
LT: Albert, Taylor
LG: Waters, Smith
C: Niswanger, Ghiaciuc
RG: Goff, Brown
RT: McIntosh, Richardson
So something is going to get shaken up here. We have gone from what was a fairly uncontroversial slotting of players into what is going to now be a very competitive fight. There will be at least one player released that may be controversial.
Joel did his damnedest to figure out what the right side of the line may look like, but I think the center position is now in flux as well, and the left side may also be affected by this trade. I am not fooled by the mothership's official depth chart.
I try to tackle the implications of this trade after the jump.
The starters on left side of the line is not particularly concerned with this acquisition. Branden Albert and Brian Waters are chisled in as starters, and both have played pretty well this preseason, Waters in particular. We do not have a better offensive lineman on the team than Brian Waters. But the depth behind them is now in question with this trade.
Herb Taylor has struggled a bit at left tackle this preseason, but he has enough of a track record that it is unlikely anybody could replace him. He has performed well in the past, and still has the measurables and athleticism needed to substitute in an emergency. Left tackles are like quarterbacks in the NFL, every team needs two, and Taylor fits the bill just enough.
Backup left guard is a question of what direction the Chiefs want to go in. If they want a known quantity that is able to handle several positions along the OL, veteran Wade Smith is your man. Wade Smith has filled in for this team now for a couple years everywhere along the interior, and he has played okay, but never well. This seems to be his roof -- whereas other players, such as Colin Brown or Darryl Harris, are much younger with upsides. While Brown seems to be destined towards the right side of the line, Harris may fit the bill, but Haley values versatility. Can the very young Harris man other positions in a bind? I believe he's headed to the practice squad.
When it comes to the center position, there is one thing I am fairly certain of: between Niswanger and Ghiaciuc, at least one of these players will be gone by the final cutdown to 53, if not both. Haley and Pioli have liked Niswanger's comgination of intelligence, mentality and ability ever since he got here. But given Haley would definitely be going against his track record if Niswanger was starting opening day, because Niswanger has really struggled throughout the preseason so far. The amount of yardage he gives up every game in up-the-middle push is unacceptable.
But Ghiaciuc isn't much better, and judging from his time in Cincinnati, he's worse. And this is I believe where Andy Alleman comes in. Not that I treat the official depth chart at kcchiefs.com as gospel, but Alleman plays everywhere on the interior line, and has gotten lots of time in at center. He did start for a little bit for the Dolphins last year, and it's possible that he provides a fresh set of talent for Haley to throw out there so he doesn't have to reward either Niswanger or Ghiaciuc for their poor performance. I believe that you will see Alleman starting by the fourth preseason game and he will not relinquish it by the time we play the Ravens to start the season. Haley will find a way to keep Niswanger on the team (backing up either center or RG), but Ghiaciuc will not survive the cut.
Right guard gets cloudier, especially with Mike Goff struggling. I continue to believe that Goff will be the starter come opening day, however, so long as Haley is focused with fixing the center position first. Goff is a great combination of leadership and experience, in addition to some ability, and this is what's needed on this team. Haley loves the guy, he'll likely remain the starter and there is zero chance he's cut from the team altogether, which unfortunately a few Chiefs fans are speculating may happen.
Backing him up is a simple question of who is the most versatile while being the most serviceable. Wade Smith is the known quantity we discussed from earlier, but I believe he's locked into the left side. Colin Brown is Pioli's first draft pick for the OL for the Chiefs franchise, but there is simply no way that Brown is ready. The chances of Brown playing any minutes this season that aren't garbage minutes are absolutely zero -- which is why I think Brown will end up on the practice squad. Ndukwe is a definite maybe because it is unlikely that Ndukwe gets to surpass both McIntosh and Richardson at RT by opening day, and his versatility along the right side would be a plus.
But I'm putting my money on Rudy Niswanger, who has Haley's support and has played fairly well at the right guard position in the past couple years when he filled in. Niswanger's versatility across the interior, where the Chiefs are thin, would be a plus as well.
That brings us to right tackle. It has been obvious from day one that Pioli and Haley were incredibly unhappy with Damien McIntosh for whatever reason. Maybe it's the fact that McIntosh hates the right side. Maybe it's the fact that McIntosh does not fit the stereotypical skillset for the right side. Maybe it's because McIntosh has struggled. It's probably a combination of all of these factors.
If there was one major cut I can see coming, it's McIntosh. Pioli and Haley have tried many things to replace him. They drafted Colin Brown initially as a RT prospect, but he was moved inside. They tried slipping Barry Richardson over him on the depth chart, but Richardson has sputtered. Now they've traded to bring in a right tackle in Ikechuku Ndukwe from the Dolphins. McIntosh is now fighting for his life.
His chances are slim to none. Barry Richardson has played serviceably enough for the Chiefs to give him the starter job for now, even though I feel McIntosh is still the better talent. Ndukwe himself has said he intends to be the right tackle for this team, and his versatility to slide over to RG gives him the edge over McIntosh, who has complained already about being relocated to another position. And I think that's our right tackle depth right there. Richardson will have to hold off Ndukwe, while McIntosh is out.
So what's keeping McIntosh from challenging Herb Taylor over at the backup LT? Talent-wise, not much. McIntosh has more experience there than Taylor, and is probably about even in terms of talent, if not even a little better. But Taylor can better be utilized on special teams. And this is no small factor: a couple reports suggest that McIntosh has simply not bought into Haley's program. Which is unfortunate for him, but it makes sorting out LT depth easier.
So my new, updated depth chart prediction for opening day, with practice squad included:
LT: Albert, Taylor
LG: Waters, Smith
C: Alleman, Smith
RG: Goff, Niswanger
RT: Richardson, Ndukwe
Practice squad: Colin Brown, Darryl Harris
This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Arrowhead Pride's writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Arrowhead Pride writers or editors.
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Nice work up, rec'd.
But i disagree with you about the RT spot, i say Ndukwe starts over B Rich. He just seems more talented and experienced at this time. B Rich hasn’t made a start yet, while Ndukwe madew alot for the fins last year.
Cry Havoc! And let slip the Chiefs Defense of War!!!
by nateforchiefs on Aug 26, 2009 12:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice post!
I have a feeling though that we’ll have to revisit this during the next couple of weeks during the cuts…I bet we could see turnover there at 4 to 5 guys (players we cut).
Virtus In Arduo
by carthagechief on Aug 26, 2009 12:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Pretty close to my thoughts, too
Except, Rudy still is in the hunt at C.
AND
Colin Brown shouldn’t clear waivers… too much potential. The only reason I can think of that Pioli “reached” for him is that he saw something special, and he had reason to believe other teams did too… so if he tries to sneak Brown on the PS, he’ll be snatched up, Thigpen style.
So… I look for Brown to make the roster as the backup RG, Smith to back up LG, and Rudy backing up at C… or starting.
I am optimistic about both of the new guys from Miami, so I’d love to see them step up, grab a starting job, and not let go.
"I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
by stagdsp on Aug 26, 2009 12:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
Brown won’t reach the PS
Thank You Carl Peterson for drafting Dustin Colquitt
by KansasCityShuffle on Aug 26, 2009 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am completely fine with cutting Goff
and carrying Alleman, Niswanger, and Brown for RG
Thank You Carl Peterson for drafting Dustin Colquitt
by KansasCityShuffle on Aug 26, 2009 12:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
LT Albert, Jones
LG Waters, Niswanger
C Wells, Niswanger
RG Alleman, Brown
RT Ndukwe, Richardson
Harris, and a young T from waivers on the practice squad
I dunno that looks a little better to me for some reason.
by mcclanahanman on Aug 26, 2009 12:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
By Jones
I’m assuming Levi, which if thats the case there’s no way in hell he comes to the Chiefs to play backup
Thank You Carl Peterson for drafting Dustin Colquitt
by KansasCityShuffle on Aug 26, 2009 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Herb Taylor?
are you saying he’s going to get cut?
Prediction: Tamba gets 10 sacks this year.
by ChiefDog on Aug 26, 2009 7:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Playing Devil's advocate
“Bringing in two players from the Dolphins, it is more than likely that both of these players will have a spot on the nine-man OL roster come opening day against the Ravens. As much as Haley argues that the best players will be on the team (and I have every reason to believe that Alleman and Ndukwe are among the best 9 OL we have right now), draft picks are currency. We just spent some of that currency by trading for Andy Alleman and Ikechuku Ndukwe, and there’s no chance we release these guys as we whittle down to the 53. They will be on the roster when we face the Ravens.”
This is a null point if the draft pick is based on them making the roster, therefore they lose less of a draft pick by cutting one or both.
by TonyG88 on Aug 26, 2009 1:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes, Chiefs definitely PAID something for these two players.
But if they suck, chalk it up to experience and move on. The fact that they spent “the currency,” though, suggests that they have a VERY good idea that they will, in fact, be better than two guys currently on the roster.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
by hmills110 on Aug 27, 2009 12:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its too many lineman...
Teams only carry 8-9 lineman and can only dress 8 on sundays.Also I dont know if you risk putting a guy like Brown through waivers.
On a slightly different note I saw a report yesterday that Mark Tauscher is cleared to practice after his rehab, Theres a guy that would be a great addition or at least worth a look. He’s still younger and if he can get back to form a very good RT.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Aug 26, 2009 1:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Last I heard, he was cleared to run, but not yet for full contact.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
by hmills110 on Aug 27, 2009 12:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like the Idea at center, but
What is wrong with Rudy staring at right guard. I remember when Waters went down a few years ago he filled in pretty damn good. I like him over Goff and Goff over Alleman. Also I’m all down to play Ndukewe at RT. Just my opinions
by readANDgold58 on Aug 26, 2009 2:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
you put brown on the ps
and hes gone immediately…
by SDChief on Aug 26, 2009 4:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
O-Line
How sad that we get excited about 2 guys from the Fins that we’re giving up 1 low draft pick for.If (& I believe it is) our o-line is so bad that a buy 1 get 1 free deal gets not only fans but the staff excited we have a lot longer to go than I thought.Anybody else feel this way?
John Soellner
by chiefs63 on Aug 26, 2009 6:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Look at it this way
The two former Phins will only get better in this season. They got some good experience last year helping a rebuilding team become more than respectable. They did it with these two guys starting (even though they were backups). The Phins are DEEP at O-line and wanted to get some rookies into the mix. I think we’ll be pleased with Alleman and EK.
The future is ours KC Chiefs fans!!!!!
N. Gift
by giftedchiefsfan on Aug 26, 2009 7:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Two thoughts
LT: Albert, Taylor
LG: Waters, Smith
C: Niswanger, Smith
RG: Alleman, Brown
RT: McIntosh, Ndukwe
LT: Albert, McIntosh
LG: Taylor, Smith
C: Waters, Smith
RG: Niswanger, Alleman
RT: Ndukwe, Brown
Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying
by Steve_Chiefs on Aug 26, 2009 7:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Taylor...
is not guard material. He doesn’t have the legs, his frame is more suited for tackle.
by I_Bleed_Red. on Aug 26, 2009 11:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Two recent acquisitions will be 1's
Barring another rare find by personnel master Pioli, He’ll wait to draft more O-linemen. Rudy Niswanger gets better with a stronger RG/RT. Sackintosh gets waived.
LT: Albert, Taylor
LG: Waters, Smith
C: Niswanger, Smith
RG: Alleman, Goff
RT: Ndukwe, Richardson
Harris, Brown to Practice Squad
The future is ours KC Chiefs fans!!!!!
N. Gift
by giftedchiefsfan on Aug 26, 2009 7:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
In my opinion...
The line shakeup should look something like…
LT: Albert
LG: Waters
C: Alleman
RG: Niswanger/Goff
RT: Ndukwe
and start from there….I’d be suprised if thats 4 out of 5 of those positions (minus RG) aren’t played by the players listed.
by butchcassidy on Aug 30, 2009 7:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Alleman
is a more compact build compared to the lumbering bulk that is Niswanger which I think would prove benefical to the general mobility necessary to block when being the center. The mass that is Niswanger could then finally prove useful in plugging up the inside and outside gap as well and not have to concern himself with the nuances of being the trench general.
2 cents..
by butchcassidy on Aug 30, 2009 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

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