On J-Man

I’ve been reading this blog for a long, long time. I’ve always been impressed with the knowledge, intelligence, education, honesty, and compassion of its members. I may not always agree with social opinions or political ideas, but who cares? It gives me something to think about and at the end of the day, it’s only about one thing, the Kansas City Chiefs. That’s why I decided to join and contribute.

Last night was disgusting. I was disappointed with what went down, to the point I was contemplating deleting my account. But then, this morning, I find this post, and it made me remember why I joined in the first place. 99% of the people here are solid, good people. The other 1% can go to hell, or buy my bungalow in Oakland. Thank you for that reminder.

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At first I didn’t know the guy had CP. Yes maybe my comments were a little harsh. But I would say the same thing to anyone, I wasnet making fun of him because he had CP. But soon after I found out and would like to make an apology to Jman and to anyone else that I may have offended. But at the same time I would ask that some people get a little more thick skinned, this is football, and some poking fun and shit talking shouldnt make anyone too mad. Ive had a lot of crap talked about some of my “jackass” comments and I dont get pissed I just laugh at it. So after being banned, I think I’ll be a little more cautious on making “extreme” comments. with all that said, I love AP and go to it 5 to 10 times a day. Im a football fanatic.

Thanks for helping to keep it classy Patrick.

I’ve also remained silent on J-man’s posts but haven’t been real happy with what’s been going down.

I agree that in general we’ve had a bit of a down-turn in the overall quality of the fanposts as of late. If what you’re writing illicits less than ten comments, your thought would be better served as a comment to someone else’s more thoughtful/meaninful post.

J-Man, come over to Pats Pultpit any time. If any one has trouble understanding him, I’ll gladly translate. He’s intelligent and enthusiastic; two outstanding fan qualities. Unfortunately, he roots for Denver, but nobody is perfect.

Over at Bolts from the Blue, one of the Mods edited j-man’s post to make it clearer. His posts aren’t long, and you could leave the original along with the translation. Just a thought.

Rec’d Paddy

It’s unusually civil for a football blog/forum… I hope it stays that way (and believe that it will!)

I threw a quick translation in my comments. He has some solid football fundamentals.

finally someone steps up because i just couldn’t believe some of the things i was hearing. ppl like that are ignorant and should be ashamed. we have no idea what its like…ppl like this should be banned from this site of true chiefs fans…and on another note who cares about they quality of fan posts as long as they are on topic (anything chiefs) everyone deserves to voice thier chiefs opinion and thats whay makes this site so great…we are all chiefs fans and thats why we are here…

I’m one of those people that make sure I read what J-Man post. Why because he’s disabled? No way Because he is a fan that knows football? Hell Yes! I admit I do not normally post a comment to J-mans post because there is always one ass that can not seem to help himself make an ass of themselves, and what could be a very interesting topic of football comes down to insults and defending.

I once ran a discussion site where insults resulted in a ban, they were told first thing that we welcomed discussion and debate However the point was you could argue your point as long as you did it in such a way as to try to make the other side change their mind. Name calling and profanity will never get to that end result. I’m sure this would not work here, but if everyone that reads this post at least try’s to make a well thought out and reasoned post before just saying what comes off the top of their head, I think even AP can be a better place.

Paddy has come out and said what many of us have been thinking and I Salute you for doing so. I myself have made one fan post, not because I don’t have anything to add, but because I don’t think my thought’s are sometimes good enough for a fan post. We have some very talented people here are AP, and some of the most intelligent fans it has ever been my pleasure to get to know through their post. I would not want to waste anyone’s time with a fan post that I did not think was worthy of the AP readers. I also know if I wait one of the better writers will either make a post I can comment to or I can ask one of them to create a post on the subject.

Just one last thing to an already too long post. We communicate with each other and the world here on AP through text. One of the worse ways to convey a feeling. Jokes die in text form, sarcasm is next to impossible to get through the written language, and worse of all hurt feelings most often don’t even get posted, most of the time the one with the hurt feelings just goes away, and that hurts us all. I guess what I’m trying to say, is to put thought into your text before someone else does it for you.

There have been a lot of lower quality fan posts as of late. There are a lot of new people on the board. These folks don’t know how things are typically done around here. They are simply trying to contribute. Instead of getting all hot under the collar about it and making an assholic comment why not just be cordial and fill them in on standard procedure. Link them to the welcome manual. Or just shut up until one of the moderators does it for you. The world is not going to end if someone posts a fan post that is not up to your standards. Chris and Joel have done a fantastic job with this blog. They will presumably be able to handle these things without people having bitchy internet showdowns on their blog.

Do you know how discouraging this type of comment is to a newcomer? I have made a few posts and to be honest with you, I am not anxious to give it a try again. If we look back at the archives of the first posts from most of the hard core users, I suspect they would not be of very good quality either.

Something to consider.

that that “Important Community Information” is now pushed towards the bottom of the page, rather than at the top where it once was thanks to the “twitter feeds” list and some other stuff…

Welcome New Readers
Netiquette on AP
PARADES KOMMENTOR Manifesto
DO NOT REPOST
AP Tech Tips

99% of users questions and asshattery can be solved by reading these things, and following the guidelines outlined in those posts.

sounds mighty like High School bs to me~

This and that, and they and she and he said, and we should, and this is how~

Who cares~ let it go. If a person talks trash upon anothers opinion, or how they type, or how they express themselves, they prob need to look in the mirror and remind themselves how OLD THEY ACTUALLY ARE!

let the high school bs games go people~ and realize, we all have something to contribute~ even if its not DONE the way it was done in the past on here!
eh?

for saving me a lot of trouble i throuht i was going to have to type a long post about myseif anyway part on the reason for my mess up posts is i am not good at putaition and i did not get on a comp every day utill 06 look last night i understand peopie did not know and are trying to heip me out and i am greatful for that when u comment on my grammer take a few thrigs in mind num 1 i type with one finger num 2 i am from arkansas the hillbilly state num 3 in my brain i mean to type with good grammer it just comes out worng i can taik nomral luckely i have a mild case of cp but a seveve case of artris i have rhoudith arthris very painful and to grand master a sorry if i was so rough on u d thomas reighs is like a bro to me

my dad is a steeler fanmy wholie is steeler fans so its nomal for me u shouild check my colits bolg on the colits stie

Thank you.

And good discussion in the comments by all, as well.

but I was at work and couldn’t post

I just want to say thanks to paddy for speaking up on j-mans behalf.
I also have CP, luckily mine is fairly mild, and confined mostly to my legs, and I know how much it would take for someone in J-mans situation to post and let idiots tear him down for something he cannot control.

Anyway most of the people on here are very courtious in their responses, and I’ve been very grateful for that.

J-man you just keep posting. You seem to be very intelligent and I enjoy reading your posts

sign the hell up! Been a long time spectator, and finally made the jump. I have seen posts from J-man in the past, and was unaware of his condition. I thought some of his posts were odd, but I be damn if I was gonna be a jerk about it. Just keep it movin people! Sounds to me like J-man loves football and thats all I need to know! Kick ass post Paddy!

Keep on posting J-man….damn the critics! Go Chiefs!

I feel all warm and fuzzy:) Could be the happy hour margaritas! !!GO CHIEFS!!

that J has passion enough to not only come onto a division rival’s blog & start making fanposts, but to not let his condition get the best of him, or keep him from getting the most he can out of life. That’s something we can ALL take a lesson from. I work with lots of kids w’ his & similar conditions, & they inspire me each and every day. So did the piece Babb wrote about Cory May’s father in the Star recently. Call me hokey or whatever, but that’s real effing grit right there. Don’t get me wrong, I have an intense and borderline unhealthy hatred of the broncos, but I enjoyed jman’s contributions and some of the discussions that followed…a pretty interesting wrinkle in our side of the blogosphere I think…..thought provoking if nothing else.

So 1 Million % behind a post before. Thanks Paddy! You nailed every word on the head.

J-Man you rock. I think most know how strongly I feel about this, and sometimes too strongly I am told. This needed to be said.

I’ve been really busy lately getting back into the routine with classes and moving, so I haven’t been able to delve into the innards of this blog as much lately, which is unfortunate. I read posts here all summer and then eventually joined. It always struck me how witty, intelligent, and respectful many of the common posters and commenters are and that still is evident today, so when I wrote each of my very few fanposts and shots, I took tons of time, crafting and editing my work. Over an hour for little pieces, b/ct I wanted to match the quality that I had experienced in my readings.

I know everyone wont be able to write as well as others, and if that is what is taken into account in what many have referred to as the “quality” of the posts, then that’s not right. We are all from different social groups that have specifically defined our lives, but we are all united as Chiefs fans, so we should respect all posts and posters that are respectful and full of integrity, regardless of technical ability.

Patty, I’ve always enjoyed your posts more than anyone’s, and I respect your wit and abilities, so I’m a little concerned with what you consider to be the declining quality of fanposts. I feel like I am a pretty good writer, and can express myself effectively, however, I am now pretty worried that I haven’t been cutting it in you regular guy’s eyes in my posts and comments, which really bothers me, because I know how much time and effort I’ve put into them. I try to be original, but with what I perceive this to be as a booming sports blog, I might have repeated another post and/or comment unknowingly, just because of the sheer volume of fanposts certain days and weeks.

Whatever the issue is with what you all see as the declining quality in posts, I hope you remember that a lot of us do put in a lot of time, but still do not get very many recs or comments in relation to what we post or comment. I want to match the quality and respect that I’ve seen on display by you all and your great examples, so even though I’m young and pretty new to AP, I still have a huge love of everything Chiefs in my heart and I still hold this blog in high esteem.

Just remember, you will alienate and scare people off from participating in this blog, regardless of how good or poor their potential quality of posts or comments may be. I can tell you that if I had seen all of this recent jabber about the declining quality in posts, I probably wouldn’t have joined or ever written anything on here, which in my opinion, shouldn’t happen to anyone, unless they are just horribly ignorant and disrespectful.

Just take it as a testament to the people that post a lot, that a lot of new people are joining daily, and making their first posts and comments daily, after seeing YOUR work.

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