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Ok... so I just spent a little time and looked at the first 3 offensive series, first 3 defensive series, and first 3 kickoffs/punts from the game vs the Vikings.

Thank God for the guy who invented the DVR.

It's a relatively small sample size, but I do have a life, and can't sit here all day breaking down the tape for no better reason than to tell you what I saw.  :)

I thought the Chiefs looked solid and NOT overmatched with the first units in for both teams.

I was surprised by some things, not surprised by others.

Surprises:

*  The WORST pass blocker on most plays was.... Sean Ryan he whiffed repeately (at least 4 times) when trying to help on the right side, making us think the RT were terrible, when in fact, they were on their man, but someone came right by the TE outside of the RT.

*  a close 2nd worst, and not a good run blocker... Mike Goff missed 1 pass block, and 2 run blocks that I saw.

*  BOTH RT(McIntosh and Richardson) did better than I thought at pass blocking... they stayed in front of the defender or pushed them to the outside so Cassel could step up and throw.

*  RUN blocking may be more of a concern than PASS blocking:  There weren't many holes for LJ, Charles or Battle.  Maybe this will get better, and maybe it's because the Vikings have a very good overall team run defense.

Not a Surprise:

Cassel was sharp.  Good decisions, good accuracy, good mobility.

*  When the blocking is there, this IS a good offense that can move the ball and score


Mays continued to make play after play... he should be a LOCK for the 53 man roster


Vrabel was in on nearly every play... whether he made the hit or just set someone else up to make it... he's a good player

*  The 3-4 Defense seems to be working... good pressure up front, LB making the tackles. 

*  Just need a little better intermediate route coverage from the LB and S

Copper made some drops... he and Darling were unimpressive and need to be cut (Copper didn't factor in the first 3 drives, but I kept watching)... they didn't seem to be able to get open or catch the football very well.


Play by play after the jump

Star-divide

Opening kick bobbled by Battle, recovers and gets to the 17, 15 yd penalty on the Vikings

First offensive drive:

Cassel scrambles, Ryan missed his block badly.

LJ run for 2 yds... Niswanger and Ryan misses blocks that could have opened a hole

Catch by O'Connell, Goff missed block, forced a quick short throw

LJ Stufffed at the line, Goff missed a block, and the left side didn't open a hole at all

Punt

First Defensive Series:

Good stuff of a run

Incompletion: Vrabel and Hali get pressure, DJ and Mays good in coverage

completion:  Vrabel and flowers good coverage

4th down stop:  Page and Mays and DJ stuffed the run for a loss, Page made the big hit

Second Offensive Drive:

Charles is stuffed:  Ryan missed block, no hole was opened.

Darling makes a catch:  Ryan missed a block, forced a quick throw

LJ is stuffed:  Goff missed block

Cassel has time, misses Bowe

Complete to Bowe, Richardson nearly got beat, but pushed his man out wide

LJ runs left:  No hole

Ryan makes a catch:  The pocket collapsed behind Cassel, but he feels it and steps up to make the throw.

LJ stuffed:  Cottam missed block

Succop FG good, Belcher makes good hit on the kickoff coverage

Second Defensive Series:

Peterson runs for 6

Incompletion:  Vrabel gets pressure, Carr and Hali had good coverage

False Start:  Vikings WR

Incompletion: Mays applies pressure, smokes Favre, Legget, Carr and Flowers had good coverage

Punt:  Leggett fair catch

Third Offensive Drive:

Darling drops a pass, blocking was OK

Darling catches a pass, blocking was OK

LJ runs for 18, McINtosh and Cox had blocking

LJ run:  no hole on the Right side of the OL

Cassel has a nice play fake and roll out, complete to Bowe

Screen play wasn't there, Cassel scrambles for a gain

Quinten Lawrence runs a great reverse:  good blocks by McIntosh and Bowe

LJ runs Right, small gain

Bowe catches a TD, good blocking, quick pass

Belcher makes another tackle on the kickoff

Third Defensive series:

Run stuffed, offsides penalty... the ref said it was on Zach Thomas... so not sure who it really was

Good run by AP, tackle by Flowers

run stopped by Mays and Vrabel

Vrabel applies pressure, pass complete on Leggett

Run:  Vrabel misses tackle while being blocked, page makes the tackle

Run:  Leggett stuffs it in the backfield, Tank had good penetration as well

Run:  DJ and Hali make the stop 3 yd gain

Pass: Belcher makes the hit for a short gain

Pass:  Belcher and DJ bad coverage:  bit on playfake.  Jackson had good pressure late

Run:  DJ makes the stop, 4yd gain

Run:  DJ pushes him out, holding penalty on the guy trying to block Vrabel

Run:  stopped 4yd gain, Vrabel and Tank made the stop

Screen pass, Legget ran it down after a good gain

Run:  Tank makes the tackle 2yd gain

Run:  Hali and Boone stop it for a loss

Pass for a TD:  Jackson and Mays had good pressure, but DJ and Carr were late getting to the TE when the QB scrambled.  Great blitz pickup by the FB on Page, who would have gotten a sack

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Interesting....

Wonder if Jason Dunn is ready to come out of retirement???

by Chiefsfan1970 on Aug 23, 2009 3:47 PM CDT reply actions  

Dunn

he was a big part of that offense, I can now see the value of a TE as a blocker… I hadn’t noticed it before this game

"I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009

by stagdsp on Aug 23, 2009 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dunn was a crucial part of that amazing offense we had but...

Noone should forget T-Rich. Our running game has not been the same since he left KC. those two guys were a crucial part of the 2003 offense that went 13-3. Priest Holmes should thank those two.

by Chiefsfan1970 on Aug 23, 2009 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

exactly

Cox seemed unimpressive in this game

"I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009

by stagdsp on Aug 23, 2009 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I haven't really noticed him much which tells me...

He pretty much sucks! I could always see T-Rich in there lead blocking and catching one or carrying here and there. I know you can’t compare every Fullback to T-Rich but still, thats what weve been used to so, thats what I expect from that position.

by Chiefsfan1970 on Aug 23, 2009 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

maybe

that’s a bigger part of the run blocking deficiancies than we’ve discussed?

"I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009

by stagdsp on Aug 23, 2009 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

I disagree

Cox is doing his job.

Take a look at the running plays again. He is taking out the first guy in the hole, but the interior linemen, Niswanger and Goff primarily, aren’t blasting their guys out like they should be.

I honestly believe that Niswanger is the primary problem with the offensive line being unable to open running lanes. As a center, he should be knocking defensive players on their butt, but instead he is getting pushed back behind the line of scrimmage.

http://ajax-dj.mybrute.com

by ChiefDJ on Aug 23, 2009 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

I admit

with the craptastic Vikings tv coverage, it was hard to see Cox at all

"I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009

by stagdsp on Aug 23, 2009 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

but you said that the interior pocket was usually there

thus Niswanger was not pushing forward but not getting walked back?

Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying

by Steve_Chiefs on Aug 23, 2009 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

that was my observation

so, they did an OK job in pass protection, not so OK in run blocking

"I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009

by stagdsp on Aug 23, 2009 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Will 5 guys plaing together as a unit

help with learning to run block?
pass blocking without the D stunting would be man vs man.
Do we see any reason that Niswanger did not call the line calls properly?

Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying

by Steve_Chiefs on Aug 23, 2009 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think it has anything to do with calling blocking

It has everything to do with Niswanger, who is the anchor of the O-line as a center, getting knocked into the backfield on every running play.

The Center / RG position continues to be a problem as it has been since Shields retired.

Watch a team with a good offensive line sometime. They generally get enough push that even if the running lane is filled by a linebacker or whatever that its generally 3 or 4 yards down the field.

With the Chiefs offensive line the last couple years, the RB is getting hit first 2 or 3 yards behind the line of scrimmage and has to scratch and claw his way to make a couple yards.

http://ajax-dj.mybrute.com

by ChiefDJ on Aug 23, 2009 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Take a look at the Vikings when they were running for example

Adrian Peterson is a very good RB and can carry a guy on his back a long ways, but watch where the blue line is that marks the line of scrimmage and then watch where they are at the point when Peterson enters the running lane. Most of the time its a couple yards down the field.

http://ajax-dj.mybrute.com

by ChiefDJ on Aug 23, 2009 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Niswanger has the smarts and the size

if he can’t play center I am all for a Guard position.
this line is not the Roaf Shields line but I hope can be something better with the personnel in a different config.

Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying

by Steve_Chiefs on Aug 23, 2009 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

He has size and smarts

but he’s just not that quick or powerful. I’m not sure if he’ll be a mainstay on this line.

by RedNose on Aug 28, 2009 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Could be part of the eval process.

It’s tougher to hide poor technique when you’re not all huge ‘n’ blubbery. Being trim forced them to do things right, which is good for consistency down the road.

No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.

by hmills110 on Aug 28, 2009 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

exactly

I certainly haven’t broken down the game nor watched it several times like some of you guys. But, my live impressions were that our OL NEVER exhibited any push on running plays. They were the ones getting blasted off the line on most plays. At best, they were simply holding territory – never gaining it.

Hopes fade once again from blue to red. Go New Chiefs!!

by kabrink on Aug 23, 2009 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Those impressions are usually true if you pay attention in real-time.

The replays help ME to get the player number right.

No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.

by hmills110 on Aug 28, 2009 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Did you check the fanshots?

interesting diagrams.

Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying

by Steve_Chiefs on Aug 28, 2009 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Except For

the sack Niswanger recorded but didn’t get the credit for.

Put this in your pipe and smoke it:
1. Chiefs will be at least 8-8 and vie for division champs
2. DJ will break out and finally have his year
3. LJ returns to form
4. DBowe drops will reduce

by kcchiefsfan72 on Aug 23, 2009 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think his size is a detrimate to the toadish NT/DT

A shorter center but not Guycheck
Waters maybe?

Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying

by Steve_Chiefs on Aug 23, 2009 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

This is kind-of sort-of a random place to put this, but...

What makes me mad about our O-line problems is this. We all know we have plenty of cap room to work with. Since Hunt paid out the big bucks for Pioli and Cassel we know he’s not going to be CP cheap. So, before OTAs started when the better players were out there why didn’t we spend some money to get one or two real O-linemen? Instead we go out and get 2nd tier guys like Ghiachuk (sp) and Goff.

by Primussux on Aug 23, 2009 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know other than maybe Haley and Muir hadn't decided what the had yet.

and the 1st tier lineman were gone in a blink of the eye
Collusion between player, team, and agent.
Chiefs not a thought maybe in the future the Chiefs will get a 1st look

Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying

by Steve_Chiefs on Aug 23, 2009 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

You may be right, but that doesn't excuse it.

Regarding your point that “…maybe Haley and Muir hadn’t decided what the had yet.” if you are right then this is simply unacceptable. After Pioli, Haley, and the new personnel guys came in one of their job responsibilities was to review the tape and see what the guys were like that they had last year. Pioli has described himself as a guy who loves watching tape. So, while neither of us will ever be able to know if they did or didn’t know what they had, if they didn’t this would simply mean they were not doing their jobs correctly.

by Primussux on Aug 23, 2009 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

+1

The o-line was so terrible last year that we changed our offense! I’m hoping that came across on the game film.

Yes, the top teir guys went fast, we could (should?) have been faster.

by NJ Chiefs Fan on Aug 24, 2009 9:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

Good points, Primus.

But Steve_Chiefs also makes a good point. There were a number of players who at one time or another scouted as pretty good talents, and they’d never gone through a serious conditioning program. Add to that the difficulty of evaluating exactly what you have in a lineman before the pads go on, and you get some 11-on-11 full-contact drills.

Seeing the DIRE need to address d-line and KNOWING they were not going to get up into elite talent in the draft (or feeling that Washington at CB was a better value than the nearest lineman), AND looking at the teams that DID go after top-shelf OL, maybe the decision calculus told them that optimum strategy was to stand pat and be the bully of the schoolyard around this time, 1st in cash and 3rd in line at the waiver trough, reachin’ ahead ‘n’ smackin’ Detroit in the back of the head and blamin’ it on St. Louis. “Wasn’t MEee.”

But I have to agree with YOU that I’d’ve understood the logic better if KC had gone directly after O-Line in the draft. Your saying that what Pioli did was “unacceptable” is slightly over the top. We haven’t seen the team take the field versus the Ravens, yet, let alone weighed their merit thru even half a season. As avid a disbelief-suspender as I was for previous administrations, I’m not even close to giving Pioli a thumbs down, even re: o-line.

No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.

by hmills110 on Aug 27, 2009 11:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

SEEMS “slightly over the top” in my very humble opinion. Don’t want to sound more sure of myself than I am on this.

hmills110 <—- still reeling from LDD.

No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.

by hmills110 on Aug 27, 2009 11:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Chiefs were always at the salary cap

For the exception of last year. So I don’t know WHY people complain about Peterson being cheap. He paid too much money to the wrong guys, but he wasn’t cheap.

Pioli hasn’t proven yet that he’s any different.

http://ajax-dj.mybrute.com

by ChiefDJ on Aug 23, 2009 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ouch! That smarts! The truth hurts.

As another has said, I think there might be a “Let’s see what we have” thing. Conditioning was an obvious change to make and then evaluate/train the players.

I’ve been saying “Runyan/Jones” for a while, but others point out that they’d likely have the same issues with the switch to RT. I still think there’d be an improvement by adding one of these players, but all that’d be guaranteed would be a high price tag. But money’s really no object at this point.

No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.

by hmills110 on Aug 23, 2009 7:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Two things

First, my example was specifically related to this year.

However…

Secondly, I’ve heard various rumors that swirl around that say that you were wrong. I’ve heard that CP pissed off a lot of players by being such a hard nosed negotiator that he wouldn’t pay guys what they were worth. One of the rumors out there was one of the reasons why Jared Allen wanted to leave was because CP didn’t want to pay him what he was worth.

by Primussux on Aug 23, 2009 11:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

That happens when your organization continually fails to develop its own talent,

and uses bailer twine and chewing gum to try to hold it all together. Ya gotta be willing to deal veterans while they still have trade value. Peterson tried to get a competitive edge by puttin’ the squeeze on anybody he thought he had leverage on, and the talent, like sand, just trickled out between his fingers. When you bring up your own players, you can hold the team in the palm of your hand, instead, because you’re WINNING.

No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.

by hmills110 on Aug 24, 2009 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

good call on T-Rich

He was just another causality of the wonderful Herm youth movement. The guy may have been old but he could still play.

Herm is gone things are better with that one move!!

by bringbacktheglory on Aug 23, 2009 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

And I thought he just kept getting better in space and catching the ball the longer he played.

One of the most underutilized talents I’ve ever seen. Always the guy who ended up blocking, because he was the one guy who could and WOULD (and he was a long-term project catching the ball on the move).

No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.

by hmills110 on Aug 24, 2009 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Kris Wilson is...

"I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009

by stagdsp on Aug 24, 2009 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rec

maybe the TE blocking will get a little better when a 1st stringer is determined.
Right now a blocking TE is all that is needed for the TE position.
so Niswanger didn’t suck :)
Richardson in at RG maybe?

Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying

by Steve_Chiefs on Aug 23, 2009 3:52 PM CDT reply actions  

well..

I’m not saying NIswanger didn’t suck… it was hard for me to tell what was going on from the center position on run plays.

On pass plays, there was generally a decent pocket, with the rush coming from the edge. Cassel either steps up to make a good throw, or the pressure gets there quick and he has to dump it.

I think Colin Brown has a chance to play some RG this year. Richardson might still make it as a RT, but I’m not as down on McIntosh as I was before watching closely for those 3 series.

"I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009

by stagdsp on Aug 23, 2009 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Vikings D keys on the Run...

…I’m not sure this game was a good sample by which to judge our run blocking, but the Texans game didn’t impress me either. IMO this is the one area I’m most concerned with as it relates to the Chiefs offense.

Matriculating – Verb; To trickle in thunderous fashion, to be chaotically methodical in a choreographed motion forward.

by SoCalChief on Aug 23, 2009 4:18 PM CDT reply actions  

true

Vikings are a great run stopping team, with or without all of their big name guys on the field.

I think run blocking could be a deal breaker fo rthe offense… Cassel should be fine, and he proved he can make plays, even when the pass protection wasn’t perfect.

"I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009

by stagdsp on Aug 23, 2009 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

So let the passing open up the running game

chicken and egg arguement.
with the right WR’s :)

Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying

by Steve_Chiefs on Aug 23, 2009 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

hope so

that’s fine by me…

and I think they have brought in plenty of WR… now they just have to trim the fat

"I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009

by stagdsp on Aug 23, 2009 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yup.

No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.

by hmills110 on Aug 23, 2009 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

It doesn't work that way

run opens the play action pass. If you can’t run, you have to pass (showing pass all the way), but it doesn’t mean you’ll be successful at passing. Running means you eat up clock and rest your defense. If there’s any reason the Cards didn’t win the superbowl last year, it’s because they had no run offense in the game.

The future is ours KC Chiefs fans!!!!!
N. Gift

by giftedchiefsfan on Aug 26, 2009 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

I thought they ran enough to keep the D honest.

I thought the decisive factor was probably luck. That was NOT a high-percentage game-winning drive by the Steelers. And the Warner pick to Harrison was anomalous.

I think Warner’s relative immobility was a liability. Steelers could send 3 pass rushers and he’d STILL have to get the ball out in a hurry (or be afraid that he HAD to, when any QB with wheels should be able to buy more time against 3 bigs than he allowed himself.

Another thing that concerned me was game-time adjustments by the offense. I’ve said this before, but it took the offense a long time to see the open HB in the flat, and 1 or 2 successful plays for the Pitt D to shut it down. Then another long lull before letting Fitzgerald take over the game for a while. I think Pitt’s ace in the hole was how smart they played against a team that might very well have been more talented.

But your point about what the absence of a run threat does to your offense is VERY well taken. And I well remember those Dallas teams that ran AND passed out of the I formation with Aikman-2-Irving, after emmitt smith and that OFFENSIVE LINE put the fear into a defense. If you didn’t honor the run on EVERY down, Dallas would simply run it down your throat all day long.

No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.

by hmills110 on Aug 27, 2009 11:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

The pass can open up screens and draws that get you what you need

New England has used the pass to open up the running game since their initial Super Bowl run. That’s pre-Moss/Welker. I know the run to set up PA has been very effective with a good running game, fast receivers, and a strong armed QB, but it’s not the only way.

by RedNose on Aug 28, 2009 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nice Write-up!

And thank you for the breakdown. I watched the game but haven’t had a chance to see replay. I see many reasons to be pleased with the performance and a number to be dissatisfied. I will be a much different looking team than we have seen the last couple of years.

One thing for sure…we will know a lot more after this week’s game. This will be the first week I think we really see who is number one at each position. There may yet be changes, but they want a real dress rehearsal for a half and part of the third quarter for the first team this week. Then next week’s game is primarily to find out who the twos and threes will be and pop the bubble for those still on it.

Chiefs go 9-7. LJ makes 1400 yards. DBowe makes 1200 yards. Defense #18.

by Zodeman on Aug 23, 2009 6:23 PM CDT reply actions  

I'll try to do better when I do these, too.

Then maybe stag and I can split duties.

He seems to be the only guy attempting these breakdowns other than myself, and I love seein’ these.

No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.

by hmills110 on Aug 23, 2009 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

I like them too

Though I don’t comment much, I love the breakdowns.

by RedNose on Aug 28, 2009 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dont know about you guys

But the 3-4 Defense transition went a lot more smoothly than I thought it would. I know its preseason but man those were 2 promising games

Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes; after that, who cares?! He's a mile away and you've got his shoes!

by SuperTurtle on Aug 23, 2009 6:30 PM CDT reply actions  

Fits the talent X-section better, was what I thought.

Plus, they’re just playing more aggressively.

No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.

by hmills110 on Aug 23, 2009 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

I haven't rewatched the Vikings game...

But the thing that concerned me about Cassel in the Texans game was that he had goofy happy feet going on…It was awful footwork…Not the good, Peyton Manning happy feet….More like nervous, someone-is-about-to-kill-me happy feet…

I dont think I saw it Friday tho….i need to go back and take a look…

Great post man…This type stuff is what makes this fanbase great…

by woodman212 on Aug 23, 2009 6:39 PM CDT reply actions  

My thought

Is that Haley might just play the Seattle and St. Louis games similar.
We have ten days prior to the Baltimore game and I think the 80 is already the 60
in Haley’s mind. There is NO reason to play people that we have no intention of keeping.

Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying

by Steve_Chiefs on Aug 23, 2009 6:44 PM CDT reply actions  

I dont' understand what you mean.

Hopes fade once again from blue to red. Go New Chiefs!!

by kabrink on Aug 23, 2009 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Most of the cuts are already decided in Haley's mind

just not posted at NFL.com yet

Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying

by Steve_Chiefs on Aug 23, 2009 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

ah

You mean play Seattle and StL similar to each other – not similar to MN. I agree I’m sure Haley has a really good idea of who he wants to keep. My biggest question/concern is who are they hoping/trying to pick up. What are their largest concerns and how to fix them. I still think we desperately need OL. It overshadows all else.

Hopes fade once again from blue to red. Go New Chiefs!!

by kabrink on Aug 23, 2009 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nice job, Stag. Wrecked.

No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.

by hmills110 on Aug 23, 2009 7:50 PM CDT reply actions  

Thanks for the film room work, Stag
  • I’m hoping TE issues are fixable (improvable) once we settle on the right guys.
  • I’m less optimistic that run blocking is only a few technique drills away.
  • Heading toward a 3-4 defense just seems like the best way to run an NFL defense these days. Plus it’s more fun to watch. So whether we have all the players in place to run it this year or not, I’m happy for the switch. And I believe our personnel is better suited than many thought earlier in the year. Optimistic about Hali. Grateful to have Vrabel. Pleasantly surprised about Mays.
  • Thanks for the Belcher alerts. Hoping he and Studebaker are good enough to make the team.

by sunny D on Aug 23, 2009 11:41 PM CDT reply actions  

+1

You have my proxy at the stockholder’s meeting.

No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.

by hmills110 on Aug 24, 2009 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's funny how before we got to see some games

a lot of people were more worried about the defense, now it’s all about the offense.

Herm is gone things are better with that one move!!

by bringbacktheglory on Aug 23, 2009 11:50 PM CDT reply actions  

Great write-up! Thanks for taking the time! Rec’d!

You are what your record says you are!

by Chief_Elmo on Aug 24, 2009 10:57 AM CDT reply actions  

thanks!

thank you to everyone for the “wrecks”

"I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009

by stagdsp on Aug 24, 2009 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

You earned 'em.

No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.

by hmills110 on Aug 24, 2009 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tight Ends need help.

The Patriots just waived Tyson Dyvree yesterday. I would not be surprised to see him in the Chiefs camp very soon. He was the fifth tight end on the roster for the Pats, but when Belichick cut him, he commented that this was the strongest group of tight ends he had seen.

by pats_acolyte on Aug 24, 2009 11:34 AM CDT reply actions  

yep

I saw that and threw up a fanshot.

i bet he does come to KC, or Ben Watson

"I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009

by stagdsp on Aug 24, 2009 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't care who we get...

As long as he can push mother fuckers around!!!

by Chiefsfan1970 on Aug 24, 2009 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

+1

I also hope he can get some blocks on players withOUT an Oedipal complex.

No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.

by hmills110 on Aug 24, 2009 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Quick word on Tyson DeVree

Reports out of training camp noted that he was making a lot of excellent catches. He seems to be more of a pass-catching tight end than a blocker (where he could use some more work), so take that for what it’s worth.

As has been noted, he was the victim of a very good tight end competition here on the Pats, and he was one of those players who always seemed to be on the bubble. Word is that he seems to have improved a lot, so it wouldn’t surprise me to see the Chiefs pick him up (if he hasn’t latched onto a team yet, I haven’t been keeping track).

by NESilver on Aug 28, 2009 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Total rec

That stuff takes a lot of time. Thanks for doing it.

Quinten Lawrence’s reverse play does show why they drafted the guy. We need some players that can be explosive. If he can just improve his hands, we could really have something there.

by TheQ on Aug 24, 2009 9:44 PM CDT reply actions  

It would be.

I think a big reason we are seeing so many new folks to AP, is in part because of the regime change. People are optimistic that maybe someday we can experience some of the same success that the Pats have enjoyed. I know it will be a rough season this year, but next year I fully expect for us to compete for the AFC West. I think they have already improved team speed and conditioning considerably over last season.

by TheQ on Aug 24, 2009 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think me and others finally found AP!

We always believed to an extent but had no HOME place to express it.
Truly, how many of us have friends and family that share our Chiefs addiction?

Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying

by Steve_Chiefs on Aug 24, 2009 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Steve_Chiefs..................

I think you hit the nail right on the head. I am totally into the Chiefs but even the other Chiefs fans I know are not so much as me. Arrowhead Pride is a place for us who eat, sleep, and breathe Chiefs football to come and bounce our ideas/thoughts off others with similar interests. We don’t always agree with each other and sometimes the exchanges may get a little heated, but it is all in good fun. Bottom line……we are all Chiefs fans and we all want to win. We all want to return to the big game and regain the glory of our historic franchise.

by G.L. on Aug 25, 2009 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

I've been blogging since before they called it that.

But bein’ a retard, it took me a LOOOONNNNNNG time to find this particular mix of intelligence and irreverence. I hope it never gets to where it goes G-rated, though. That’d wreck it. You see a lot more “A*&HOLE!!”s and “FAKK U”s in a place where it’s OK to drop the occasional F-bomb, without being edited or banned. If you go too far, you’re warned by a human being who cares, rather than PREVENTED from just talking plainly by a text-parsing piece of software.

No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.

by hmills110 on Aug 27, 2009 11:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dangit! Got that wrong!

You see a lot more repressed/disguised meanness and vulgarity on those sites where the controls are more strict. A lot more shouting.

No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.

by hmills110 on Aug 27, 2009 11:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Isn't it time for a new 53?

Slacker :)

Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying

by Steve_Chiefs on Aug 24, 2009 10:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

With the official, un-official depth chart being done by the Mothership

it just doesn’t seem necessary. We are getting really close to the REAL 53. I can’t wait!

by TheQ on Aug 24, 2009 10:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

You know that their depth chart is shit

Darling and Copper aren’t # 1’s. Bowe and who?
maybe Albert, Waters, Niswanger, N-Duke-Way, Richardson, and a TE to ne named are OL.
Mays beats out Zach for starter.
So many questions and so little skill :)

Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying

by Steve_Chiefs on Aug 24, 2009 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes...

I agree that the depth chart is not final by any means…

Not necessarily about some of the rest, lol…

by woodman212 on Aug 25, 2009 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

AP posters were saying cottam was gonna get cut, lol before this game for sure. Even if he matched sean ryan they would keep cottam becuz of upside. Plus he did well blocking last year ecspecially in the ATL hame. Go look at that they ran to his side every time.

by dougritchey on Aug 27, 2009 8:07 PM CDT reply actions  

And....

What do you really want to say?

Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying

by Steve_Chiefs on Aug 27, 2009 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

When Cottam played how did he do?

I liked the analysis and Sean didn’t play well.
So, How did Cottam fare?

Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying

by Steve_Chiefs on Aug 27, 2009 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

About all I remember of that Atlanta game was

trading early 3-and-outs with them, and then just getting blown off the ball the rest of the game on BOTH sides, but especially by that Turner character.

No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.

by hmills110 on Aug 27, 2009 11:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

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