Broncos' Orton does his Best Jake Plummer Impersonation
by Joel Thorman on Aug 23, 2009 10:46 AM CDT
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PrintSome of you may not remember this, but I do.
When Jake Plummer was the quarterback of the Denver Broncos he attempted a LHP against the Chiefs.
What's a LHP you ask? Well, it's the Left-Handed Pass by a right-handed quarterback. In excellent news for Chiefs fans, I've found a quick video (courtesy of Chiefs Planet) of Kyle Orton doing the same thing last night.
Yes, an attempted LHP.
"Kyle Orton may not be able to match Cutler mph per mph. And his desperation left-handed throws may only conjure up images of Jake Plummer, not Cutler," writes Mike Klis of the Denver Post.
A commenter over a Denver Broncos forum summed it up nicely: "Great.....I just can't wait to hear what all the sport news radio, television, shows, and news papers are going to do with this one!! FIELD DAY!!
Your Denver Broncos starting quarterback after the jump....
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He Wasn't A Bad QB Last Year
If you’ve got a good rushing attack and a solid defense and don’t need your QB to do a lot, he’s probably not a bad one to have. But they seem to think that Orton’s going to be good as a focus of the offense and he’s never really shown he can be that guy. They’re looking for another Cutler and he’s basically another Trent Dilfer or Neil O’Donnell (but probably not as good as either of those guys).
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
3. Maurice Carthon will be the most hated man on the Chiefs' coaching staff within two years.
4. Larry Johnson has already played his last meaningful game for the Kansas City Chiefs. He's gone before the 2009 season starts.
5. Larry Johnson will gain 0 yards rushing for the 2009 Kansas City Chiefs.
6. The Chiefs will go 7-9 in 2009, good for 2nd in the AFC West.
7. Ryan Succop will not perform better in 2009 than Connor Barth did in 2008.
He couldn't beat out Rex Grossman the first time around
’nuff said.
by Official Arrowhead Pride Parade on Aug 23, 2009 11:24 AM CDT reply actions
To clarify a bit ...
Orton couldn’t beat out the guy who’s now third string on the Texans behind Dan “0 and 16” Orlovsky.
I know it's early
but could it be? Is it possible that someday I will come to love Josh McDaniel as much as I do Al Davis?
Hopes fade once again from blue to red. Go New Chiefs!!
I still can't believe that they got rid of Cutler.
A franchise QB is the most important factor to consistently winning. I really believe Cutler might be the best young QB in the game. Well it worked out well for us.
Not only cant believe they got rid of Cutler...
but got rid of their backup plan/safety net by dealing their first round pick next year when two very good QBs wouldve been available to them.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Aug 23, 2009 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions
I thought Orton was supposed tp be a good game manager who protects the ball.
I don’t think guys who protect the ball throw left handed passes up for grabs. Well we should be able to get 4 wins this year seeing how we get to play the Donkeys and Faiders 2 a year.
He's Supposed To Be
I think the Broncos are asking him to do a lot of things that he’s not really suited to do…which would fall right in line with the questionable personnel decisions I’ve seen from them so far. Shanahan might be gone, but they sure didn’t get any better on picking players who fit what they want to do.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
3. Maurice Carthon will be the most hated man on the Chiefs' coaching staff within two years.
4. Larry Johnson has already played his last meaningful game for the Kansas City Chiefs. He's gone before the 2009 season starts.
5. Larry Johnson will gain 0 yards rushing for the 2009 Kansas City Chiefs.
6. The Chiefs will go 7-9 in 2009, good for 2nd in the AFC West.
7. Ryan Succop will not perform better in 2009 than Connor Barth did in 2008.
I don't get what you are saying
Shanahan might be gone, but they sure didn’t get any better on picking players who fit what they want to do.
Wasn’t Shanahan very good at this? He could have made me a 1,000 yard rusher.
And so, Craig finds himself leaping from blog to blog, striving to put right what once went wrong, and hoping each time that his next leap, will be the leap home.
by craig in calgary on Aug 23, 2009 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions
I think
He was pointing out Shanahan’s shoddy drafting.
by Joel Thorman on Aug 23, 2009 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Shanahan was a great coach, and offensive play caller but a horrible talent evaluator.
He could pick RB okay but was very bad at selecting defensive players.
He wasn't any fabulous talent at picking RB's either.
Shanahan was the GOD of the zone blocking O-Line scheme.
Year after year after year Denvers O-Line utilized the zone blocking scheme to perfection.
It was the very very well coached and schemed run blocking going on up front that allowed Denver to have 1,000 yd. rusher after 1,000 yd. rusher. And Shanahan was the guy behind the briliance of of the run blocking on the line.
Sure, he had a Terrel “Baby Daddy” Davis for awhile but he had 7 other guys that rushed for 1000 yrds behind his line that no one had ever heard of before they got there, and that flopped like Manu Ginobli once they left.
The Powers Of Astute Observation Are Often Mistaken As Cynacism By Those That Do Not Posses Them -- G.B. Shaw
by Texas Chief on Aug 23, 2009 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
And THAT is what I'm talking about.
Rec’d.
-cw
Watching the 2009-2010 Chiefs 12 hours ahead of you (in Taipei, Taiwan).
Twittering my every move. Don't act like you're not even slightly interested.
True dat Tex!
Cant forget the play calling too. Denver was the best at the misdirection and the bootleg.
by Chiefsfan1970 on Aug 23, 2009 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions
With Quarterbacks He Really Wasn't Good At All
After Elway left he busted on a number of QBs until they lucked into Cutler. Griese, Plummer, Chris Miller, Gus Frerotte, Steve Beuerlein, Danny Kanell. He really didn’t have that much of a magic touch with QBs. Running backs, yes, he always found guys to fit his system, and he did okay with o-linemen. But he had problems with QBs and defense, and that’s a much bigger part of the team.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
3. Maurice Carthon will be the most hated man on the Chiefs' coaching staff within two years.
4. Larry Johnson has already played his last meaningful game for the Kansas City Chiefs. He's gone before the 2009 season starts.
5. Larry Johnson will gain 0 yards rushing for the 2009 Kansas City Chiefs.
6. The Chiefs will go 7-9 in 2009, good for 2nd in the AFC West.
7. Ryan Succop will not perform better in 2009 than Connor Barth did in 2008.
How can you say they "lucked into" Cutler?
They evaluated him, thought he had talent and traded up to get him. Its not as though they got him in the 5th round and he turned out to be good.
If anything I think you can say that Shanahans flaw was that his ego made him think he could take any average QB and turn them into a star the same way he did with RBs.
When he finally admitted that he couldn’t do that and went out looking for a 1st round talent QB, they got Cutler and they did very well with him.
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He Dropped To The 11th Pick Of The Draft
Because the Titans and Cardinals thought Vince Young and Matt Leinart, respectively, were better QBs. The Broncos weren’t happy with Plummer’s inconsistency and he was 32 so grabbing Cutler was pretty much a no brainer when the opportunity. It would have been a scouting coup if they’d had a pick about 8 spots higher and grabbed Cutler. As it was they were able to trade up four spots ahead of two teams that were definitely looking for a QB at that time (Baltimore, Cleveland). If Tennessee hadn’t so badly misread Young’s ability to play QB he’s not even available for the Broncos to grab.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
3. Maurice Carthon will be the most hated man on the Chiefs' coaching staff within two years.
4. Larry Johnson has already played his last meaningful game for the Kansas City Chiefs. He's gone before the 2009 season starts.
5. Larry Johnson will gain 0 yards rushing for the 2009 Kansas City Chiefs.
6. The Chiefs will go 7-9 in 2009, good for 2nd in the AFC West.
7. Ryan Succop will not perform better in 2009 than Connor Barth did in 2008.
I have to say this.
Plummer was a way better QB than Shanny or the city of Denver ever gave him credit for. During his tenure at Denver, he was the winningest QB in the league and they ran him out of town.
by Chiefsfan1970 on Aug 23, 2009 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
For Shanahan's Ego
If anything I think you can say that Shanahans flaw was that his ego made him think he could take any average QB and turn them into a star the same way he did with RBs.
I thought I was saying that. If not, that’s what I was intending to say. I think Shanahan had a lot more confidence in his ego on coaching QBs than was merited by his results. Of course, it’s not uncommon in the NFL (see Tarvaris Jackson/Brad Childress).
When he finally admitted that he couldn’t do that and went out looking for a 1st round talent QB, they got Cutler and they did very well with him.
To be honest, while Cutler is obviously very talented, I don’t think that Shanahan did a particularly good job developing him. By his third season in the league he was still making as many stupid boneheaded plays to beat his team as he did his rookie season. Sure, he can throw for 4,000 yards and 20 TDs. He’ll also chuck a bad INT at the worst possible time for his team (as he did against the Chiefs last year). I thought he was kind of inconsistent…also I think Shanahan also spent too much time telling him how special he was without expecting tangible improvement.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
3. Maurice Carthon will be the most hated man on the Chiefs' coaching staff within two years.
4. Larry Johnson has already played his last meaningful game for the Kansas City Chiefs. He's gone before the 2009 season starts.
5. Larry Johnson will gain 0 yards rushing for the 2009 Kansas City Chiefs.
6. The Chiefs will go 7-9 in 2009, good for 2nd in the AFC West.
7. Ryan Succop will not perform better in 2009 than Connor Barth did in 2008.
He was actually doing a great job in this game
until this pass.
Off topic a bit but still AFC West QB related...
After Russell wqas done for the night he was asked about the scoring drive where he threw a TD. Russell had no idea, i mean absolutely no clue(or recollection?) what play was called or run that got them the TD.
So we have Orton making LHP and Russell who has no idea what plays he’s running. Things are looking up for us.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
While we're on the subject
From a Sept. 13th, 2006 article by Chris:
Forget the molestache for a moment and focus on Plummer’s driving skills. If you remember, Jake was ticketed in a road rage incident in which he intentionally backed his Honda Element into another driver. At least I think it was an Element. Somebody look that up. Jake must have just left his buddy’s house after a munchie session because this is what the driver had to say:
“I know he’s under a lot of pressure, and he just has a lot of competition now,” said victim Doug Stone, referring to first-round draft pick Jay Cutler, the Vanderbilt quarterback selected two days after the alleged incident. “I thought the guy was about 19 or 20 years old, and he lived with his parents.”
Seriously, denver fans are completely dilusional
there going to blow this year..They are completely screwed..They will win 6 games at most..at most..Probably 4 tho..I really hope Marshall goes
by CALIFAN1986 on Aug 23, 2009 1:52 PM CDT reply actions
At least the chiefs
Are on the right path to win. F the raiders, F the chargers, and you know what Denver, I pity you!
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