Chiefs Come Up Short to the Vikings on Final Play of the Game
by Chris Thorman on Aug 21, 2009 10:06 PM CDT
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Man...so close! Matt Gutierrez's goal line pass to Ashley Lelie is out of bounds. Kansas City Chiefs lose to the Minnesota Vikings 17 to 13.
Final game stats are here.
Inconsistent but nearly succesful play from the Kansas City Chiefs tonight but like I've always said, I don't take any absolutes away from the second preseason game.
Here are a few thoughts before I get into the game recap tomorrow morning:
- Matt Cassel impressed me tonight. He looks crisper and just has a more confident look at the QB position than Tyler Thigpen or Brodie Croyle.
- The offensive line wasn't very good tonight. Vikings S and former Chief Benny Sapp came in on a blitz and forced a Matt Cassel fumble.
- Jamaal Charles would be a heck of a lot better football player if he didn't fumble the ball so much. That's a killer right there and a repeated mistake most coaches don't tolerate for very long.
- Dwayne Bowe had another solid game in limited action, catching 3 passes for 37 yards including a 5-yard TD pass from Matt Cassel.
- Jackie Battle received the most carries out of any Chiefs' running back. The coaching staff definitely has their eye on him.
- K Ryan Succop was 2/2 on field goals. Did Herm just not know how to pick kickers? Too much pressure perhaps to score all of the points?
- Jackie Battle and Jamaal Charles split two kick returns. Maurice Leggett had a punt return too.
More on the defense in the game recap tomorrow. Use this as the post game thread for all of your comments.
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C for great first half
F for FUCKING FAIL in the FOURTH
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by JChief on Aug 21, 2009 10:08 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Yeah I know lol
I meant to add the word FADE in there as well. Fade, Fail, and Fuck all mean the same thing.
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by JChief on Aug 21, 2009 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who throws the fade in the endzone?
I wish we would’ve pounded it up the middle.
Something to consider though guys. We don’t have a ton of depth, but we have some great players. Once Haley can get all those guys on the field at the same time, for the whole game, its over.This team looked better tonight than it has in the last few years.
I’m excited.
Predictions.
1. Tank Tyler will end up surprising everyone and be the anchor of our line.
"...Said he couldn't go on the American way"
by Jux on Aug 21, 2009 10:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
VERY hard play to defend against
Even vs what could be considered perfect defense. Unfortunately, its also a very low percentage play and should never be called in a 4th-down situation like that unless you’ve got Peyton Manning under center.
"The first step to penetration... must not be lateral"
-Confucius, in contrary to Glenn Dorsey lining up in the 2-tech
by ArrowSpread on Aug 21, 2009 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah,
Im sticking to my guns. They wanted a pass on that play. We should’ve run it right down their throats.
Predictions.
1. Tank Tyler will end up surprising everyone and be the anchor of our line.
"...Said he couldn't go on the American way"
by Jux on Aug 21, 2009 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
NFL Network
is sucking Favre’s dick already here.
D-Bowe, Mark Bradley, Bobby Engram and Turtle. Four Chiefs WRers. 4 Pro Bowlers.
by Patrick Allen on Aug 21, 2009 10:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm tired
of freaking Brett Favre. On another note, B overall, not so happy with the ending…eh.
-Chiefs- Winning more than 2 games is the first step...good thing the new guys want more than that.
-MU- M...I...Z...Z...O...U...
-Royals- Uhhh...errr....winning? What's that?
by optimistic_chief16 on Aug 21, 2009 10:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ha!
I was stuck watching the Viking broadcast. It was like a 3 hour Farvgasm. Disgusting.
by dakotadave on Aug 21, 2009 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Watching right now
Gross.
-cw
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by webby37 on Aug 21, 2009 11:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
jesus i hated it
All those Mike Mayock and that other guy did was talk about that Viking team like they were already in the superbowl and how bad was the ugly blonde bitch down on teh sideline at interviewing? They showed more of the crowd wearing Favre jerseys than they showed the game. I think they showed Todd Haley two times the whole game.
by CHIEFER on Aug 22, 2009 1:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mayock was a pretty big disappointment.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
by hmills110 on Aug 22, 2009 1:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They were Vikings announcers
It it was a Chiefs telecast, it would have been the oposite. Mike Mayock has forgotten more about football than we will ever know
And so, Craig finds himself leaping from blog to blog, striving to put right what once went wrong, and hoping each time that his next leap, will be the leap home.
by craig in calgary on Aug 22, 2009 1:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
they completely missed
2-3 plays while KC was on offense so they could show favre or allen or some fan wearing a #4 jersey…talk about lopsided coverage…they never once spoke about any KC players…always either vikings offense or D…even when KC made a good play
by KCCheeze on Aug 22, 2009 1:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ugly Blonde Bitch..
looked like a roughed up, cross of a Chuckie doll and a Barbie. WTF kind of surgeon operated on her ass? Then she was an idiot to boot. Couldn’t stand to listen to any of those fucking announcers. They all made my ears bleed.
Put this in your pipe and smoke it:
1. Chiefs will be at least 8-8 and vie for division champs
2. DJ will break out and finally have his year
3. LJ returns to form
4. DBowe drops will reduce
by kcchiefsfan72 on Aug 22, 2009 3:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rock Chalk Jayhawk. MU PWND!!!
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by JChief on Aug 21, 2009 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Too bad you didn't get to listen to the Vikings play by play
A two hour pregame and most of it was about him. I thought I actually heard a collective sigh the first time he came on the field
by stram#1 on Aug 21, 2009 11:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They are in for a surprise
D-Bowe, Mark Bradley, Bobby Engram and Turtle. Four Chiefs WRers. 4 Pro Bowlers.
by Patrick Allen on Aug 21, 2009 10:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
B for the starters
D for the rest except Gut
by ktr17x on Aug 21, 2009 10:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
calling it a B overall
1st team did well
2nd & 3rd teams, not so well
didn’t much care for the play call at the end, but hey if it had worked the coaches would be heroes…
You are what your record says you are!
by Chief_Elmo on Aug 21, 2009 10:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I was unable to watch the game, so I'm out of the loop.
Did our starters look better than last week?
by SupremeChief on Aug 21, 2009 10:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
In short, yes. Especially Cassel
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by JChief on Aug 21, 2009 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cassel looked amazing.
We are so deep at QB its crazy
Predictions.
1. Tank Tyler will end up surprising everyone and be the anchor of our line.
"...Said he couldn't go on the American way"
by Jux on Aug 21, 2009 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
on QB depth. All of the boys looked good tonight. Problem was that the OL couldn’t block half the time. The other half of the time when they were blocking, it was because somebody was holding and we kept getting flagged…
Put this in your pipe and smoke it:
1. Chiefs will be at least 8-8 and vie for division champs
2. DJ will break out and finally have his year
3. LJ returns to form
4. DBowe drops will reduce
by kcchiefsfan72 on Aug 22, 2009 3:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Very much so.
Good half by the 1st team
by DThomasReigns on Aug 21, 2009 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I Hate the F^cking Fade
That is all. :)
by DThomasReigns on Aug 21, 2009 10:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
1000+
Why not just yell “500” and throw the ball in the air.
by saskwatch on Aug 22, 2009 1:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because it's in the endzone, silly!
Jackpot!
by Ben S on Aug 22, 2009 2:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
To put in perspective. The Vikes beat the Colts speechless last week on the road.
And we hang tough with them.
by ALR on Aug 21, 2009 10:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
In the words of the broadcasters
Favres Job is to throw the ball into a window that wrs can catch it i could do that
by SuperTurtle on Aug 21, 2009 10:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
OOh and to whom it may concern
Thank you so much for the knil that allowed me to enjoy the game from new york.
by SuperTurtle on Aug 21, 2009 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Any one watching the replay
I want to get another look at the first team
D-Bowe, Mark Bradley, Bobby Engram and Turtle. Four Chiefs WRers. 4 Pro Bowlers.
by Patrick Allen on Aug 21, 2009 10:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
If it wasn't for the pass interference we would have won.
yet this doesn’t excuse Lelie from getting both feet down on the fade. Keep that knee down
by ravenhawk on Aug 21, 2009 10:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Wasn't his fault. The QB led him.
by Chiefsfan1970 on Aug 21, 2009 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Still if he didn't bring his knee up it would have been a touchdown
by ravenhawk on Aug 21, 2009 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He had to jump for it. QB missed on the throw.
by Chiefsfan1970 on Aug 21, 2009 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yet it was easily catchable in COVERAGE. The pass wasn't off.
by ravenhawk on Aug 21, 2009 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the pass was off
after watching the replay it would have been near impossible to get thet second foot in. he had to reach too far out for the ball
by KCCheeze on Aug 22, 2009 12:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
On Top of That...
it was impossible for Lelie to get that other foot down. He was pushed by the defender at the point of the catch and that is legal now. It’s open season on WR’s now and they can push the hell out of ‘em. Have to admit though, Lelie is proving he still has good hands. Had it not been for that poop-fuck interfering to put us on the 1-yard line, Lelie makes the TD grab and that’s all she wrote…
Put this in your pipe and smoke it:
1. Chiefs will be at least 8-8 and vie for division champs
2. DJ will break out and finally have his year
3. LJ returns to form
4. DBowe drops will reduce
by kcchiefsfan72 on Aug 22, 2009 3:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Would have been better off w/o the pass interference
First and goal on the one limits the playbook. I would personally rather have the ball on the five or so. Gives you more room to work with the passing game.
Then again, if our line didn’t fucking suck so bad, we could have just ran it in.
by Chiefsfan1970 on Aug 22, 2009 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
d line...
how’d it look, the starters anyways
by Chief Arrowhead on Aug 21, 2009 10:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Held 'All Day'
to just a few minutes of time. Overall a good outing, I think.
"The first step to penetration... must not be lateral"
-Confucius, in contrary to Glenn Dorsey lining up in the 2-tech
by ArrowSpread on Aug 21, 2009 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Disagree...
no sacks and not enough pressure on the QB. Seems like Pendergast likes to bring the heat for the 1st few series and then back off. WTF is up with that?
Put this in your pipe and smoke it:
1. Chiefs will be at least 8-8 and vie for division champs
2. DJ will break out and finally have his year
3. LJ returns to form
4. DBowe drops will reduce
by kcchiefsfan72 on Aug 22, 2009 4:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The secondary wasn't doing their job
Vikes have a pretty good offensive line. We did put some pressure on Favre a little bit. Tavaris Jackson was a bit more of a problem — moves a lot better. He actually found the open guy (which there were a lot of, for some reason) and got the ball to him consistently, for once. So we had to back off and that opened up the run a little bit.
"The first step to penetration... must not be lateral"
-Confucius, in contrary to Glenn Dorsey lining up in the 2-tech
by ArrowSpread on Aug 22, 2009 8:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Secondary played terribly I thought.
Brandon Flowers was quiet all night. MoLegg was the only one making plays or so it seemed.
by Chiefsfan1970 on Aug 22, 2009 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
When you can't
Score with four chances from the 1-yard line, you know the O-line is a weakness, 3d string or not.
by Druful on Aug 21, 2009 10:11 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Damn
the o line is terrible
D-Bowe, Mark Bradley, Bobby Engram and Turtle. Four Chiefs WRers. 4 Pro Bowlers.
by Patrick Allen on Aug 21, 2009 10:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I gave them a C, last week would have been a D
Looking better, O line was weak still, needs lots of work. D looked good, but secondary looked pathetic. Cassel looked very good imo. Surprise was Guiterrez, nice arm, poised, showed signs of leadership.
Yeah, let's just keep matriculatin' the ball down the field, boys! ...
by oldchiefsfan on Aug 21, 2009 10:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
These NFL NEtwork comentators are making me sick
they are so up the Vikings ass
D-Bowe, Mark Bradley, Bobby Engram and Turtle. Four Chiefs WRers. 4 Pro Bowlers.
by Patrick Allen on Aug 21, 2009 10:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
NFL VIENJS FAWR 2O!@ SUPERBAWLZ
seriously makes me sick
by SuperTurtle on Aug 21, 2009 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
they were actually vikings commentators
if you couldn’t tell
by KCCheeze on Aug 22, 2009 1:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i cant agree more
How bad was that? I remember after Quinten Lawrence made a nice catch on teh last drive it was actually the first time Mike Mayock was going to talk about something other than Brett Favre and the Vikings Pro Bowlers..he goes “Quinten Lawrence…(then a 3 second pause)….Number 59 Jevon Belcher made some nice plays, rookie from Maine.” Effin joke of announcers. I was excited before teh game too cuz Mayock was doing it cuz of how good he did hte combine and the off season- real talk…now I seriously think I hate Mike Mayock.
by CHIEFER on Aug 22, 2009 1:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mayock was pretty lame.
But this game was about Brett Favre, for any non-Chiefs fan.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
by hmills110 on Aug 22, 2009 1:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The shot on Farvrereever was great did my heart good to see.
Yeah, let's just keep matriculatin' the ball down the field, boys! ...
by oldchiefsfan on Aug 21, 2009 10:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
THE PATTERN IS ............................
O-LINE IS THE WEAK LINK!
by dinomight on Aug 21, 2009 10:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Kill hese NFL guys
cant wait to hear them when he starts stinking it up
D-Bowe, Mark Bradley, Bobby Engram and Turtle. Four Chiefs WRers. 4 Pro Bowlers.
by Patrick Allen on Aug 21, 2009 10:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Favre thorw bad pass
NFL Guy “He is calm. I’m ok with that,.”
D-Bowe, Mark Bradley, Bobby Engram and Turtle. Four Chiefs WRers. 4 Pro Bowlers.
by Patrick Allen on Aug 21, 2009 10:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, really what does that tell you about the guy?
He insists in his contract that he starts the pre season game, no continuity with the entire team, none. It was all about him entirely. I wouldn’t want anyone on my team that is as selfish and a glory hog like that. They will pay for it you watch. Farve will fail.
Yeah, let's just keep matriculatin' the ball down the field, boys! ...
by oldchiefsfan on Aug 21, 2009 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i feel worse than the goaline shit against the pats last year!!
by kcchiefsfan56 on Aug 21, 2009 10:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Favre throws an int
where the F!@# was the RECEIVER,
Its like hes the messiah of football
by SuperTurtle on Aug 21, 2009 10:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
What the hell game did you all watch?
There were some good things but Jackson burned our defensive backs.
by BCRavenJHawkfan on Aug 21, 2009 10:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
PIOLI IS GONNA' BRING IN SOME .......................
REAL O-LINEMEN
by dinomight on Aug 21, 2009 10:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh my God!
The Chiefs stuff AP.
NFL guy: “Bret won’t let that happen during the regular season. He’ll check out of that play!”
Are these assholes for real?
D-Bowe, Mark Bradley, Bobby Engram and Turtle. Four Chiefs WRers. 4 Pro Bowlers.
by Patrick Allen on Aug 21, 2009 10:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I hear that.
My MVP moment of the night from the NFL/Vikings feed guys was at the end of the 1st half, when we were ahead on every—I mean EVERY—stat, and the guy said “Well, all that matters is that Favre looked good.” His stats at the time: 1-4, 4 yards, one helmet to the chest (Mays, Corey).
-cw
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by webby37 on Aug 21, 2009 11:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
on the road
against the Vikes D. Good job Chiefs
D-Bowe, Mark Bradley, Bobby Engram and Turtle. Four Chiefs WRers. 4 Pro Bowlers.
by Patrick Allen on Aug 21, 2009 10:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
They are assholes. Our defense DOMINATED their starting offense.
No matter what those ass clowns say.
by Chiefsfan1970 on Aug 21, 2009 10:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Dont have NFL network.. just saw it on locals
Are they really saying their starters outplayed us? One word: scoreboard.
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by JChief on Aug 21, 2009 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Goff didnt look so great
D-Bowe, Mark Bradley, Bobby Engram and Turtle. Four Chiefs WRers. 4 Pro Bowlers.
by Patrick Allen on Aug 21, 2009 10:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
O-line didn't look so great...truly, pretty bad.
by Chiefsfan1970 on Aug 21, 2009 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
O-line is so crucial.. sadly that is our weakest link so far
“oh yea.. putting… " -Happy Gilmore
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by JChief on Aug 21, 2009 10:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They were better against a better d-line, last week to this.
Don’t know where they’ll top out or when, but they’re on the up-tick.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
by hmills110 on Aug 22, 2009 1:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
true that, Kev..
o line looked pretty effing pathetic across the board.
by reedeasy on Aug 22, 2009 4:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's like Baldinger said, The O line isn't communicating
none of them knows what the other is doing.
Yeah, let's just keep matriculatin' the ball down the field, boys! ...
by oldchiefsfan on Aug 21, 2009 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
True that
What was it, the third or fouth play of the game when Goff was dominated by the pass rush. It was as bad as anything Sackintosh has put out there.
by Druful on Aug 21, 2009 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
too bad for Goof I had high hopes for him
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by JChief on Aug 21, 2009 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
actually, D-mac looked better than Richardson for sure.
by Chiefsfan1970 on Aug 21, 2009 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
Hard to tell if he is playing better or if BRich just isn’t getting it.
by Druful on Aug 21, 2009 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I completely agree...
I was commiting on that on another board. Was Sackintosh up against the 1st team Defense?
by ravenhawk on Aug 21, 2009 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Richardson had the start.
I think McIntosh was on the field for the D-Bowe TD. Not sure when the switch occurred.
Like usual, McIntosh is still the best RT on the team.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
by hmills110 on Aug 22, 2009 1:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The entire O-line looked very outmatched
We deffinately need to upgrade the line. On the other side of the ball, the first string D looked really good, but the depth is deffinately not there.
by dakotadave on Aug 21, 2009 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's hard to gauge.
It’s not like they’ll ever JUST go with 2nd-string lineup in a real game. They appear to be able to rotate the d-line pretty much at will, which was job #1 for Pioli.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
by hmills110 on Aug 22, 2009 1:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lots to feel good about
I feel good all-around about the boys this season. They’re not championship caliber, but hell they looked somewhere between average and above average, which is a definite improvement over the past few years.
QB play was very encouraging, OL play was iffy but still passable. WRs kinda worry me, lots of drops, some mis-communication, but a lot of raw talent and speed out there. I hope the WR coaches and Haley can bring out the best in those young WRs.
DL play was actually pretty damn good. I did see Tank get shoved around some, but those ends are doing a good job for such an early point in their 3-4 careers.
LB play was iffy too. Even the veterans were out of position a few times, but when they hit, they hit hard.
DB play was pretty good I thought. There were a few slips and the one big play where the FS tried to jump a deep route, fell down, and gave up a long TD.
Overall I’m encouraged.
by Tadpui on Aug 21, 2009 10:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree with you on most of this...
but I wouldnt’ call the O-Line passable. The O-Line is going to lose us some crucial games in the regular season of Scott doesn’t make some phone calls here in the next few days…
by jbj8609 on Aug 22, 2009 12:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed
The O-Line deserves an F. They were horrible, ….abhorrent even. The pocket was never solid, QBs were always on the run, and RB getting tackled in backfield.
Hopes fade once again from blue to red. Go New Chiefs!!
by kabrink on Aug 22, 2009 1:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
An inch from the goal line, you oughta be able to punch that in.
A team that can’t is not competitive.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
by hmills110 on Aug 22, 2009 1:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i agree hands down
imagine if we score that TD and win that game – the confidence of this team is on a completely different level. just terrible play calling and execution. shouldve let matt gutierrez win that game with his arm and not ran on that 3rd down. he deserved 2 shots to win it and they stripped him of one shot and then forced him to throw a fade on a guy like paymah who was playing lock down coverage all game to a receiver like Lelie just because he is tall? fuck that, run crosses – u saw rodney wright was open on the out pattern- lead him let him make a pllay on the ball with his quickness game over we win confidence is up and sets up for a great week of prac- instead now were 0-2 in the pre-season, leaving every Chief fan to think what happened last year is still very much possible of happening again.
by CHIEFER on Aug 22, 2009 1:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the Chiefs
looked 2 times as good as they did last week. If they keep improving they will be ready to compete with Baltimore.
D-Bowe, Mark Bradley, Bobby Engram and Turtle. Four Chiefs WRers. 4 Pro Bowlers.
by Patrick Allen on Aug 21, 2009 10:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Can't wait til we get 4 times as good
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by JChief on Aug 21, 2009 10:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Improvement week to week
definite improvement over Houston was not that bad an effort
Seattle a win and St. Louis a blowout for the CHIEFS
Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying
by Steve_Chiefs on Aug 21, 2009 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
YEp
Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying
by Steve_Chiefs on Aug 21, 2009 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm just so damn proud.
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by JChief on Aug 21, 2009 10:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
are we really paying that o-line? might as well not have any. they pretty much desinigrated every play. 1st 2nd and 3rd stringers all sux.. i pray they get better.
by KC_Howlin on Aug 21, 2009 10:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Lelie
I thought Lelie showed some nice hands. That first play in the end zone he had his guy beat badly.
by dakotadave on Aug 21, 2009 10:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Me too. I think it was a good signing. He caught everything that was thrown at him.
Needs to work on his routes.
by Chiefsfan1970 on Aug 21, 2009 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's probably learning them as he goes right now. He'll get the routes down.
Yeah, let's just keep matriculatin' the ball down the field, boys! ...
by oldchiefsfan on Aug 21, 2009 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yea, he failed
to get his feet down on that fade to the corner, though.
What a poor call on 4th and goal.
"The first step to penetration... must not be lateral"
-Confucius, in contrary to Glenn Dorsey lining up in the 2-tech
by ArrowSpread on Aug 21, 2009 11:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If i was Chan Gailey there
I don’t run on 3rd down, everybody watching that game knew we would get stuffed, terrible call…and then the fade? Its like we cant get away from the Herm era. Bottom line is your on the 2 yard line and Gutierrez got us there with his arm, let him win it with his arm but no you take the ball out of his hands and try to run in it again against a great run defense (regardless of whatever strign was in) Leslie Frazier called a great game against the run besides that one run that Larry got like 20 yards. Anyway, all im saying is if we dont run on 3rd down i guarantee Guitierrez throws a TD and we win that game whether it was on that down right there or on 4th. Just makes me mad because aw in right there on teh road against a team like that wouldve done wonders for the confidence of this team. By the way, I love Gutierrez. Hes a Pioli guy, no way he’s getting cut after that performance. Brodie will either get traded or we’re going to have to cut/trade Tyler.
by CHIEFER on Aug 22, 2009 1:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
And I, too, am worried about Thiggy.
"The first step to penetration... must not be lateral"
-Confucius, in contrary to Glenn Dorsey lining up in the 2-tech
by ArrowSpread on Aug 22, 2009 8:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why not take a page out of Shanahans book.
Play action bootleg. The defense would have bit on that all day. They were playing the run hard.
by Chiefsfan1970 on Aug 22, 2009 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I said a B
I thought they played pretty well against a very good team. There are still problems, but i think we might stand a good chance in a lot of games. We almost had this one.
Chiefs go 9-7. LJ makes 1400 yards. DBowe makes 1200 yards. Defense #18.
by Zodeman on Aug 21, 2009 10:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I said A
Because this was the game that the Chiefs usually would have mailed in
Yet didn’t and almost pulled one out with the 3rd string on the road with Favre fever.
Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying
by Steve_Chiefs on Aug 21, 2009 10:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Still no TD's for Brokie
He took one hell of a illegal shot though and got back up.
Yeah, let's just keep matriculatin' the ball down the field, boys! ...
by oldchiefsfan on Aug 21, 2009 10:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That's disturbing.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
by hmills110 on Aug 22, 2009 1:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm giving the Fans here a A, again tonight.
Last weekend was civil and well thought out stuff. Tonight was once again civil, even till the clock ran out really. I say that because it was really apparent that everyone that stuck around at the end, even with the 3rd and scrubs playing you showed just how exciting and excited you are about the new team and how much your pulling for them.
Yeah, let's just keep matriculatin' the ball down the field, boys! ...
by oldchiefsfan on Aug 21, 2009 10:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
O line looked Terrible
BUT…..it’s ok Favre will make it all ok. Favre will make the NFL a better place…….. Holy shit. Is one of these guys dating/stalking Favre? Maybe get Favre out of your mouth and you can pronounce our players names correctly!!! With a push from the O-line we would have taken away a win. Period!!
Can't wait to put my pads on a Raider, My Helmet on a Hater. I'm the Arrowhead Gladiator!!
by ArrowheadGladiator on Aug 21, 2009 10:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Solid B
Matt Cassel looked good and so did D-Bowe. LJ and the O-line looked a little rough at times but overall the team looked much improved from last week. Also, I think we found a kicker. How many times did his kickoff land in the other teams enzone? The touchdown pass from Cassel to Bowe had me smiling like hell and Cassel looked calm even though he had to run for his life at times and he took some hits. I’m a first time poster but love reading AP. You guys have made the off-season enjoyable. Thanks.
by B-unit on Aug 21, 2009 10:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
Cassel and Bowe looked good. Thought the WRs as a whole were inconsistent. Saw some good catches from guys you would expect to make plays (i.e. Bradley, Toomer, Bowe) but some bad drops as well. Also, is Engram going to get involved? O-line wasn’t great. Center is a problem. Colin Brown looked solid at RG albeit against the Vikes 3’s so I’d like to him a chance. Richardson held his own. Wasn’t great, wasn’t bad.
The first D was good. I’d like to see more turnovers however I know that’s an overrated stat. Saw some positioning breakdowns which can be easily corrected.
If this team gets a consistent return guy, their special teams will be nasty as the coverage is much better and the kicking game is much better.
by golfbard on Aug 21, 2009 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
True about the wide recievers as a group. I liked the way that Corey Mays looked as well.
by B-unit on Aug 21, 2009 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
KC special teams superior to Minny's
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
by hmills110 on Aug 22, 2009 1:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Turnovers is SO not an overrated stat
The opportunities you have to score, the more likely you are to put points on the board. The team that wins the turnover battle generally wins the game.
"The first step to penetration... must not be lateral"
-Confucius, in contrary to Glenn Dorsey lining up in the 2-tech
by ArrowSpread on Aug 22, 2009 8:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The more* opportunities
"The first step to penetration... must not be lateral"
-Confucius, in contrary to Glenn Dorsey lining up in the 2-tech
by ArrowSpread on Aug 22, 2009 8:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm watching this on NFL channel right now...
And honestly I cant watch this without the mute on. This Viking color/analyst guy is the most annoying tool ive ever heard on tv. Having said that I can believe how much of a gong show the NFL channel is. Hiring Dukes is one thing, but showing highlights and the final score after a commercial in the first quarter of a game you preempted for 2005 miami dolphin cheerleader special? Cmon…
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Aug 21, 2009 11:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
First off...
I hate NFL network. I don’t have a chance to watch the game living here in San Diego except on the NFL network. I am watching the 1st half, plenty happy, KC is up 10-0, looking pretty good, and then NFL network decides to update the score and tell me that KC loses 17-13. What the hell? I purposely didn’t look at the score so I could pretend I was watching the game live, and they shove the score down my throat. Not to mention the announcers are complete freakin idiots. They said that Jared Allen had a tackle…while dressed in his t-shirt on the side line. On another play they said something along the lines of "good coverage there on Dwayne Bowe, and it was friggin Darling. On top of it all they were sucking on the tit of Favre the entire game.
Enough of that. Ok so the 1st team offense looked pretty good, considering the offensive line couldn’t protect Cassel AT ALL. Having Cassel and Bowe together was obviously a good thing. Darling looked decent. Battle looked good. Damn tired of Charles fumbling the ball. If we don’t do something about that o-line we’ll be using all of our QB’s this year, just like last year. The 1st team defense looked pretty good when Favre was in there, but Favre looked awful. Once Jackson came in he actually did pretty well and had our D back on their heels.
I gave the team a C this week, and a D last week. I think overall we looked better. I hope next week I can give the team a B and maybe a W too?
by 5280ChiefsFan on Aug 21, 2009 11:16 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
+10000
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Aug 21, 2009 11:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This guy said three times...
That Jamaal Charles is a guy that they put at WR on 3rd downs because he’s pass protection is a glaring weakness for him.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Aug 21, 2009 11:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh ya ....
And if you werent a Chiefs fan and didnt already know the Chiefs were playing in this game you wouldnt have know it until 9 minutes in after the kickoff and not until Battle was tackled.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Aug 21, 2009 11:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The color/analyst guy...
Even told off the Play by play guy like he was his bitch. Its pretty much unwatchable because of him.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Aug 21, 2009 11:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you know what else
even when Favre overthrew his receivers Mayock was STILL saying “that’s ok!” and “he needs to lead his guys past the defenders” quickly blaming Favres bad throws on the receivers when they were damn sure in the right areas. It was clear Favre was a little over-anxious and they never wanted to talk about that and still continued praising him for his throws whether they were caught or not…I mean I couldn’t believe what I was hearing – straight up bologna. Disgusting commentating in all aspects of the game. THe funniest is when they actually praised Jevon Belcher he wasn’t even on the field the offense was on teh field and it was like in teh last minute of the 4th quarter. Just terrible and hard to listen to.
by CHIEFER on Aug 22, 2009 1:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Favre was a definite liability.
He’ll get better. But he’s not very elusive. A sitting duck for KC LBs. Tarvaris probably needs a DB to track him down.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
by hmills110 on Aug 22, 2009 1:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
favre
hurried his throws because of hte pressure which caused him to be erratic in both series’. and god damn when corey mays willy-whomped him i swear i got a boner.
by CHIEFER on Aug 22, 2009 1:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
did anybody really
think that Favre was going to be ANY good this time round having only known the names of his wideouts for 3 days? Sure he knows Childress’ system, but before we start praising our front 7 too robustly, remember, Favre is nearing 40, has only been w’ this team for a few days, and was only in for 2 series. Sure our D did well, but c’mon. Let’s see how well they do vs. McNabb & the Eagles before we start crownintg Corey Mays as the savior of our D
by reedeasy on Aug 22, 2009 4:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh...
And is there anyone left that really thinks we shouldnt have gone to the 3-4 D and that this defense isnt going to be good this year?
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Aug 21, 2009 11:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Just now watching....
Replay – DVR’d….
by woodman212 on Aug 21, 2009 11:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Its like madden with the telestrater or with the analysis....
Except this guy is a douchy asshat and he does it after every single play.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Aug 21, 2009 11:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I recommend...
the MUTE button. I’ve never listened to such crappy misinformed commentators in my life. I have been to HS football games with better announcers.
by 5280ChiefsFan on Aug 21, 2009 11:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tony Gonzalez's new book-- The All Pro Diet
I’m thinking about getting Tony Gonzalez’s new book— The All Pro Diet. He wrote it with the dietitian for the KC Chiefs, so the info should be legit. Anyone heard anything about it? Check out reviews here:
by Sports185 on Aug 21, 2009 11:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Eat right...
and exercise. You don’t need a book for that.
by 5280ChiefsFan on Aug 21, 2009 11:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Docked 1 letter grade
for 1st and goal on 1 and no score. I’d really like to see Gutierrez run with 1st team O-line and receivers. C
by Kane on Aug 21, 2009 11:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
If you have 1st and goal on the 1...
and can’t get a TD, that’s just pitiful. Hell do a QB sneak on every down. You will eventually get through! Or run a sweep toward the sideline. Regardless, I really like Succup.
by 5280ChiefsFan on Aug 21, 2009 11:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1 QB Sneak anyone?
Thats just bad play calling.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Aug 21, 2009 11:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A
I love that Farve was kept in check (our boys mixed with his sucking on his own). The hit on him by Mays I believe was awesome. The rest of the 1st string looked much more polished and against a better opponent than last week. I don’t care if we do lose all 4 preseason games as long as I see the polishing and tweaking in progress and the team as a whole coalesce into something that doesn’t look like a big pile of Herm (my new term for shit).
by sayten on Aug 21, 2009 11:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The Lions went 4-0...
last preseason, and lost their next 16. I would like to see them win at least 1 of them though, just so they can remember what it feels like.
by 5280ChiefsFan on Aug 21, 2009 11:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They need to win just to have the taste of winning in their mouths.
And when youre on the 1 yard line with a chance to win and cant get it in on 4 tries that is going to be hard for them to swallow.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Aug 21, 2009 11:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
I would love to see them win both of the last 2, start the season on a streak. I guess I am so beaten down after the last 2 years, any progress I see over those years in terms of how they play is a win on some level to me…
by sayten on Aug 21, 2009 11:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The way the last few season have been....
even a win in the preseason is a reason to celebrate. I am still watching the game on NFL network so I’m sure I’ll keep commenting on things that I see.
by 5280ChiefsFan on Aug 21, 2009 11:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ABC
Plays the KC broadcast here in Joplin.
by sayten on Aug 21, 2009 11:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I got tons of family...
down in the Joplin/Carthage area. I was born in Springfield but I’ve lived all sorts of places since then.
by 5280ChiefsFan on Aug 21, 2009 11:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cool
We always gas up at that Conoco right off 71 and grab McDonalds before making the trek. I work between Craterville and Carthage.
by sayten on Aug 21, 2009 11:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My dad...
grew up in Webb City. Talk about a tiny town! At least the last time I was in that area, 10+ years ago.
by 5280ChiefsFan on Aug 21, 2009 11:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its growing...
Still football town…
Our rivals…
by woodman212 on Aug 21, 2009 11:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Much of my family lives in Springfield, Joplin and the surrounding towns.
My aunt is the President of the Springfield Wolfpack.
by ravenhawk on Aug 22, 2009 8:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That Corey Mays hit should make the highlights.
by ravenhawk on Aug 21, 2009 11:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
I bet Mays loved getting that hit on Favre.
by 5280ChiefsFan on Aug 21, 2009 11:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hell ya.
It got 4 replays on the DVR. Hopefully made ol’ Brett fill his Depend up. Or maybe he can hop on the pill wagon again… or am I to mean?
by sayten on Aug 21, 2009 11:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mays has looked really solid filling in for...
Zach Thomas. I wonder who will start in week 1?
by 5280ChiefsFan on Aug 21, 2009 11:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mays
I think Zach will be the defensive Obi Wan for the season, which is well worth 1 mil, if that’s the kind of guy that he can assist developing.
by sayten on Aug 21, 2009 11:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Zack Thomas has helped Corey Mays, and DJ any.
That is well worth 1 mil bucks.
by ravenhawk on Aug 22, 2009 8:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow Croyle got popped and actually got up :)
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Aug 21, 2009 11:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I haven't read all the posts
So was it just me, or, on the last play, did the RT jump the count by at least a 10th of a second?
by Kane on Aug 21, 2009 11:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hahahahah
“the problem with all those veterans is if they all make it you wont be very good”
- vikings color guy referring to toomer, engram, vrabel, thomas
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Aug 21, 2009 11:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The play that Mays hit Favre...
Mayock kept saying it was PI by Leggett…made me so mad….
It was mutual contact…it could have been called both, so they didn’t call it…What a homer queer…
by woodman212 on Aug 21, 2009 11:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The guy ran into Leggett
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Aug 21, 2009 11:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah that was.....
a garbage comment by the commentator. Ok seriously…Jackson is mowing the KC secondary down here.
by 5280ChiefsFan on Aug 21, 2009 11:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was on Morgan...
Looking more and more like a cut man everyday.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Aug 21, 2009 11:57 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
How about Kent Babb predicting the entire game?
“My other prediction: Vikings 17, Chiefs 13. Matt Cassel takes a few steps forward, Succop drills two FGs. Adrian Peterson is too much.:
From his Twitter earlier today.
D-Bowe, Mark Bradley, Bobby Engram and Turtle. Four Chiefs WRers. 4 Pro Bowlers.
by Patrick Allen on Aug 21, 2009 11:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Good call on all but Peterson.
Ours ones and ones/twos played extremely well.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Aug 21, 2009 11:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Glad to see the penaltys were better this game too. But ugh turnovers...
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Aug 22, 2009 12:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hahah...
yeah I was thinking about that post when I saw the final score. Kinda creepy actually!
by 5280ChiefsFan on Aug 21, 2009 11:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
HAHA...
Was Cassel yelpin like a girl after his TD? or was that crowd noise?
by woodman212 on Aug 22, 2009 12:00 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
He kinda jumped like a faury and totally missed Bowe.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Aug 22, 2009 12:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fairy*
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Aug 22, 2009 12:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cassel was pumped...
on that TD. He went up for the mid-air shoulder check with LJ and LJ wasn’t even there haha. D Bowe looked like he wanted to celebrate but was afraid of what Haley might say. Gotta love two fumbles on two plays…Man what is up with that???
by 5280ChiefsFan on Aug 22, 2009 12:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I swear if they would let him....
This color guy would be in the showers with the players at the end of the game.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Aug 22, 2009 12:00 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Here's my take
Cassel throws a pretty accurate ball, even while he’s on the run. He also fairly quick on his feet for a QB and does a fine job of avoiding pressure and extending the play. My concern is that he’s making the decision to take off running too quickly. Instead he should be recognizing where the pressure is coming from and hitting the open hot route underneath. However, as I said earlier, he can make plays on his feet, so its not such a terrible thing.
btw, can he sell a play-fake or what? I’m kinda excited about that. But that won’t work if we can’t get our running game going at all. Which leads me to…
The OLine is piss-poor. I’m not sure what the hell is going on here, but it needs to be fixed. Quickly. They’re showing no push on runs, and with Larry Johnson not being able to make a cut behind the line of scrimmage, our runs go nowhere. On passing downs, they’re porous. Call em OLé, the Matadors, just waving MFers through.
The defense played solid for the most part, minus a few dumbass moves by the secondary. The front seven got some good pressure on Father Time Favre, highli.ghted by Corey Mays putting his hat run through Favre’s chest. Great F’in hit!
Ryan Succup is not so irrelevant. The guy is hitting FGs and sailing kickoffs into the endzone. He’s doing what he’s paid to do, and that’s all we can ask for. Some consistency and an improvement in field position should turn a lot of those losses from last season into wins.
"The first step to penetration... must not be lateral"
-Confucius, in contrary to Glenn Dorsey lining up in the 2-tech
by ArrowSpread on Aug 22, 2009 12:02 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
consistency in the kicking game*
"The first step to penetration... must not be lateral"
-Confucius, in contrary to Glenn Dorsey lining up in the 2-tech
by ArrowSpread on Aug 22, 2009 12:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought the Oline was ok tonight...
Remember this is the best Run D the last 3 years in a row. Niswanger was the only really obvious issue from what I saw.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Aug 22, 2009 12:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1...
on Succup! I haven’t been this excited about a KC kicker since Lowery!
by 5280ChiefsFan on Aug 22, 2009 12:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Im wondering why we brought in Lelei to have a speed guy and stretch the field and then not use him in the 4th when we were on like the 20-25 and take a shot at the td.
Instead we wind up on the 1 and run a fade route
by Bestofthewest on Aug 22, 2009 12:02 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
in that situation...
I bet KC would love to have Tony G still!
by 5280ChiefsFan on Aug 22, 2009 12:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wasn't he in most of that last drive?
by dakotadave on Aug 22, 2009 12:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess KC...
wants to get a good look at him. Really it seems like we only have one really solid WR in Bowe. Darling has some good moments. Besides that it is really wide open at WR. Is it just me or have I not even seen Engram or Toomer yet in game?
by 5280ChiefsFan on Aug 22, 2009 12:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yea i believe he was in most of it but what im saying is they didnt really use him for what they said they signed him for. But we figured out that lawrence cant cath for shit
by Bestofthewest on Aug 22, 2009 1:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Toomer made a nice catch
I believe it was in the 3rd from Croyle. But I have not seen Engram. I am starting to wonder if is going to make the final cut.
by dakotadave on Aug 22, 2009 12:17 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
On a smaller note
One more solid game and I think Belcher will have played his way onto the team. I thought he looked good on special teams and with the 2nd string. If Quentin Lawerence would just stop dropping passes I think he could lock down the last receiver spot. Nice reverse in the first half and some good blocking on a few others in the 2nd. At least he’s shown some upside. I’ve yet to see what has Copper running with the starters. He’s like a slower Lawerence without the blocking and KR capabilities.
Ten sacks in a season! For crying out loud that's what I used to average per game using DT in Tecmo Bowl!
by KCporkchop on Aug 22, 2009 12:44 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Be interesting to see if this Renaud guy from Minny gets cut.
He was pretty impressive and is a KR/PR
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Aug 22, 2009 12:59 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Interesting because we need him...
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Aug 22, 2009 12:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Game just finished on NFLN
- Our O-Line is terrible
- Starting defence looked good
- Dejuan Morgan and Quintin Lawrence was terrible
- Herb Taylor was extra terrible
- HOLD ON TO THE BALL JAMAAL
Overall, I give it a C. Would have been a B if they score at the end.
And so, Craig finds himself leaping from blog to blog, striving to put right what once went wrong, and hoping each time that his next leap, will be the leap home.
by craig in calgary on Aug 22, 2009 1:00 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yea I think morgan is a man without a job here shortly.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Aug 22, 2009 1:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Leggett
looked good as usual tonight…making plays everywhere….and he is FAST
by KCCheeze on Aug 22, 2009 1:06 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Grade: D
Nothing past halftime mattered. Our D looked good for a couple of series, then they ran through us like crap through a goose for their TD.
Our O-line looked like it wasn’t there until they put in the 2nd string D-line.
Long season ahead.
by NJ Chiefs Fan on Aug 22, 2009 1:18 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
if it had been 1s vs 1s for the whole game,
we would have gone through al of our QBs and would have lost badly.
by NJ Chiefs Fan on Aug 22, 2009 1:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the 1s vs 1s
had the lead at halftime…not sure where your logic is in that…but yes our O line is crap….Cassel had some nice plays on the run
by KCCheeze on Aug 22, 2009 1:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
In a real game,
LJ pops a few more big ones, and that great D starts wearing down in the 2nd half.
Be calm. Chiefs are still deciding on the bubble players. I think tonight’s game brought them pretty close to knowing who stays and who goes. I expect there will be some real urgency to win this last preseason game.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
by hmills110 on Aug 22, 2009 2:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We scored our TD against their 2nd string D-line
How do you think LJ got an 18 yrd run?
by NJ Chiefs Fan on Aug 22, 2009 7:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I`m tired its 7am and not suprisingly its another Chiefs loss!!
I just wish the Chiefs would find a way to win games whether its a meaningless preseason game or not(confidence breeds success)
On the plus side Succup looks good,Legget is great,defense looks o.k,Cassel improved and I was impressed with the play calling because it wasn`t repetitive and they tried to mix it up a bit.
With the negatives…hmm….my grandma could claim a rosterspot on the o-line they look awful!! Apart from Bowe I`m not sure who Cassel can rely on to catch a ball because the wr`s look mediocre( I`m hoping Lelie plays more and steps it up because I`m sure Engram and Toomer have gone awol fom this team)
Oh well theres always next week…………
by CHIEFS_FAN_ENGLAND on Aug 22, 2009 1:19 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Two weeks ago, we (I) were (was) griping about Bowe's inconsistency.
Some key improvements have been achieved. I think this will be a fun season to watch.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
by hmills110 on Aug 22, 2009 2:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Javarris
had some nice bursts. guy looks like he can be good in open space, shifty, speedy, good hands, and pretty solid phsyically.
by CHIEFER on Aug 22, 2009 1:50 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Charles is to RB like Bowe was to WR last year.
Guy makes a great catch and run on one play and then brain farts a couple plays later. If that kid could be more consistent, we’d have something pretty special, there.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
by hmills110 on Aug 22, 2009 2:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i love charles
consistency will come with more playing time, practicing and coaching – cant forget charles really didnt play THAT much last year plus he missed a few games due to injury…but when charles did play last year, he was pretty good and def flashed signs he can be our version of Leon Washington. Its only his 2nd year, kids gonna make mistakes-
by CHIEFER on Aug 22, 2009 2:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This was a fabulous effort IMO, loved the whole game. The strange thing is, the only guy I felt was ‘slacking’ was Derrick Johnson. He missed at least two assignments, The ’young’ens’ are showing him up and that is NOT GOOD.
by augmental on Aug 22, 2009 3:53 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Haley is
making these clowns into football players. Slowly, but srely.
by reedeasy on Aug 22, 2009 4:53 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
D+
…this year will be a struggle because of the O-line.
I think it will be very reminiscent of Trent Green’s first year. He had no protection and threw some pretty terrible throws. They will get better and the ultimate result should be better than the Vermeil Chiefs because this team will eventually have a defense.
It will be a fun year, but 6 wins will be an achievement.
by Phalz212 on Aug 22, 2009 7:27 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Jackson or Monroe...
Hmmm…starting to have second thoughts about Monroe over Jackson. Our O line is not good. It really makes me think about how good they were with Roaf, Shields, etc. We still need a few more drafts to get better.
by kc571 on Aug 22, 2009 9:07 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think the Chiefs get a B.
Defense looked decent, And have the potential to be downright scary Honestly, I think that the thing that killed us was our Offensive line play. Honestly, I think that other than Waters and Albert, Our line (especially the right side) needs an overhaul. I think that we need to get rid of Richardson, I think that we need to get some real help on the O line, and soon.
by BetterRedThanDead on Aug 22, 2009 2:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Grade F
I give them an F because T.Jax passes for over 200 yards,2 td’s & they ran very well against the 1st unit.Cassel threw better but still fumbles.No excuses about the o-line.If it’s a problem then the geniuses should have already taken care of it.Pre-season or not this smells like last year.Haley is sounding like Herm with his this is good,have to look at tape etc.This team stinks.Top to bottom.
John Soellner
by chiefs63 on Aug 22, 2009 3:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
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