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Why The Chiefs' Best Hope Is Not Even On The Team

Earlier today, a quote was posted from Fox Sports' Peter Schrager saying the following about the Kansas City Chiefs:

"Totally new coaching staff and a revamped defense, but still a few too many missing pieces. Give Scott Pioli a couple of years and this team will be back in the playoffs every year like it was in the late '90s. They're just not there yet."

Of course, I disagree. And not because I am a Chiefs fan or because I write for a Chiefs site or because I'm prepping this for a Chiefs-related audience. I think Schrager's misunderstanding - and what a lot of us can forget - is that your surroundings can be as important as anything. And the Chiefs might find this to be absolutely true in '09.

Consider this: I realize why Schrager wrote what he did. His points could be spot-on. The problem is that he's considering the entirety of the NFL. He's treating all teams the same - with the same schedule, same division, same overarching factors. And this is his fatal flaw.

The Chiefs don't play in a bubble. They play in the AFC West, which, last time I checked, was easily the worst division in its conference and perhaps the NFL. The Raiders, Broncos and Chiefs are all picked to be cellar-dwellers and that was before the internal combustion happening among the coaching staff in Oakland and between players and personnel in Denver.

The Chargers are already dealing with injuries and their two best players seem fragile (LT and Shawne Merriman). Of course, they're the most talented team in the division. But I'll take my chances with Norv Turner, with the possibility of injuries, with a Darren Sproles who is NOT playing for a fat contract and see what the Chiefs can do it with it. After all, the Broncos and Raiders don't seem remotely interested in getting better.

The Chiefs don't have to beat every team in the NFL. They just have to beat the other three around them. An 8-8 record was good enough last year and there's no reason to think that can't happen again. And while I'm not saying the Chiefs are a playoff lock by any means, it's within reasonable terms that the Chiefs could indeed finish with 7 to 9 wins. And in a messed up conference like the AFC West, that just might be enough.

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Have to agree Matt

When I first saw our schedule and started thinking about the year, I was figuring about 6-10 would be good. But as I’ve watched what Haley is doing with the team, the change of attitudes among many of the players, and what has been going on in the rest of the division I just decided to go ahead and go for a 9-7 prediction for the year. If the Chargers live up to billing this year that will be second and probably not make the playoffs. But I’m OK with that. If things go as last year for the Chargers, 9-7 will win the division and we’ll be playoff bound. The early schedule is a killer, but we will be better for having to gel against excellent opposition. Second half of the season may show a pretty tough Chiefs team emerging.

Chiefs go 9-7. LJ makes 1400 yards. DBowe makes 1200 yards. Defense #18.

by Zodeman on Aug 21, 2009 9:23 AM CDT reply actions  

I disagree.

I think Schrager’s right that we won’t make the playoffs this year.

But (and this was the reason I FanShotted the article to begin with), I also think he’s right that our new administration is going to have this team back in the playoffs every year and returning to their rightful place as one of the most feared teams in the AFC.

by JacinB on Aug 21, 2009 9:32 AM CDT reply actions  

That was the way I felt

To begin with I didn’t see any hope for this year. But in a very weak division miracles may be possible. I agree that next year we will start being a contender that everyone will have to recognize and few will want to come to our house to play.

Chiefs go 9-7. LJ makes 1400 yards. DBowe makes 1200 yards. Defense #18.

by Zodeman on Aug 21, 2009 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

+1

i agree with you 100%, JacinB.

by bansky on Aug 21, 2009 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

the division is weak

the Chargers are overrated.
The raiders are a mess
the broncos are a mess

The Chiefs are now as talented as San Diego, IMO. Even if the media wont’ admit it until they win some games.

They are surely more talented and better coached than the other two

There is no reason the Chiefs can’t win the division.
none.

"I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009

by stagdsp on Aug 21, 2009 9:33 AM CDT reply actions  

That's where the problem is.
The Chiefs are now as talented as San Diego, IMO. Even if the media wont’ admit it until they win some games.

I don’t see them beating the Ravens, Eagles, or Giants. That’s 1-3 to start.

The Cowboys are down this year, but they’ll still be tough to beat. I think the Redskins could be the same way. That’s 2-4, at best.

Then, we’ve go tthe Chargers here at Arrowhead going into the bye week.

It’s entirely possible (and I’d go so far as to say probable) that we’re looking at 2-5 or 3-4 going into the bye week. That’s an improvement over last season, yes, but that’s also going to mean that we’re going to have to go 6-3 or 5-4 after the bye to get to .500 …

And, after the bye we’ve got the Jags, the Steelers, and the Bills. Those are going to be three tough games. Add to that any losses (at San Diego? at Denver? just a game we botch) and I think we’re out of the playoff picture.

by JacinB on Aug 21, 2009 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think that we

are going to challenge the ravens, eagles, and giants much more than people are giving us credit for. Our defense is much improved and i especially like our chances of shutting down the run on people.

Ravens are going to have to rely on Flacco more this year and are counting on an aging defense (I mean how long can Ed Reed and Ray Lewis dominate :D).

I’m still not sold on Eli Manning and yet again if we can shut down the run on them and make him throw i think our secondary can make some big plays.

And the Eagles have a good passing game but will Westbrook stay healthy all preseason and how will the defense be without Jim Johnson and Brian Dawkins.

by Chiefs Fan Jon on Aug 21, 2009 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

Key In Point

STOP THE RUN!!! It’s been awhile since a Chiefs D has actually done that. 90’s I believe, our playoff bound era. We’ll see how our D fares up pretty early this Season. Raven’s…running team, Raiders….running team, Giants…running team. The only team that isn’t a running team in the first 6 games, Eagles. So to reitterate….STOP THE RUN!!! We do that who cares we win!

Big Gulps EH????? All right.....Welp....See Ya Later!

by XtaC69Chief on Aug 21, 2009 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

+1 Good point

I think we will much better against the run this season.

by Chiefsfan1970 on Aug 21, 2009 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree...

I also agree. I think we will be a lot better on stopping the run. Our secondary will also step up on the pass this year.

by Chiefsfan85 on Aug 28, 2009 2:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

And

There’s no reason I can’t win the Powerball jackpot.
None.

I’m not sure why you’re so anxious to get to the playoffs and get curbstomped by a much better team. We tried that in Herm’s first year when we backed into the playoffs against Indy and were beaten like a red-headed stepchild.

by Druful on Aug 21, 2009 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

see Patrick Allen's response below

making the playoffs is NEVER a bad thing

"I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009

by stagdsp on Aug 21, 2009 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

OH, and Druful...

If you equate your team’s chances of making the playoffs with your own chances of winning powerball… maybe you should become a Raiders fan.

Any given Sunday, any NFL team can win. Whether that’s regular season or the playoffs.

A team like KC, that has been stockpiling young talent, and come into 2009 with a bunch of new veterans, a new defense, and a new coach/GM/QB… could make the playoffs, or come close… it happened in the last 2 years (dolphins, falcons)… and NO one on either of those two teams is sitting around wishing they didn’t make the playoffs, since they lost

"I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009

by stagdsp on Aug 21, 2009 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

Great

So you’d rather be lucky then good. Good for you.

That is exactly the stratagy the Raider’s have been subscribing to, so perhaps you’re better suited to be the Raider’s fan. Just saying.

by Druful on Aug 21, 2009 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd rather be both,

but will take either over neither.

So you’d rather be lucky then good. Good for you.

by NJ Chiefs Fan on Aug 21, 2009 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree with you stag 100%

2009 AFC West champs....... KC Chiefs!

by Jay 23 on Aug 21, 2009 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

The toughest part of the Chiefs season

is in the early going before the bye week. That is when the new team and coaches will be getting the bugs worked out and may have the toughest time winning. If the Chiefs can win two games in the first part of the schedule, they could make the playoffs. After the bye week the Chiefs have four divisional games and some others that will be winnable. The Chiefs could conceivably win six (or more) of those games when they are really starting to get comfortable as a team. I am expecting the Chiefs to start slowly and after the bye week build momentum. There is a very real possibility we could make the playoffs in Haleys first year.

by G.L. on Aug 21, 2009 9:40 AM CDT reply actions  

Would the Chiefs going 8-8 be the worst thing to happen to this team?

That rediculous 2006 season where we went 9-7 and got hammered by Indi put us back at least 2 years. (Of course the worst playcalling/half time “adjustments” didn’t help). I don’t think playoffs necessarily constitute a successfull season, I just want to see an improvement and this team trending in a good direction. After all, I have no interest in being a team like San Diego, a perennial shitty playoff team, I wanna win the Mother Freaking Superbowl!

And so, Craig finds himself leaping from blog to blog, striving to put right what once went wrong, and hoping each time that his next leap, will be the leap home.

by craig in calgary on Aug 21, 2009 10:02 AM CDT reply actions  

I should have said "Going 8-8 and sneaking in the playoffs"

And so, Craig finds himself leaping from blog to blog, striving to put right what once went wrong, and hoping each time that his next leap, will be the leap home.

by craig in calgary on Aug 21, 2009 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'll tell you why we want the playoffs Craig

#1. The Cards made the playoffs at 9-7 last year and were supposed to get stomped. They got hot at the right time and nearly won the entire thing. You have to attend to the dance to have a shot at bedding the prom queen. Even though chances are she will turn you down, you have 0 chance hitting on her from home.

  1. The Chiefs team you speak of was a declining team. They had finished 10-6 the year before and SHOULD have been a playoff team. That was probably their last best chance to make a run. The 9-7 team did not back into the playoffs. The won on a day when they needed to win and all those other teams who needed to win, lost.
  1. Since this Chiefs team is hopefully an ascending team, the more playoff experience they get, the better. There are a lot of young guys here. Winning the Super Bowl is hard enough for teams with tons of talent. NE has been the best team in football for many years and even they don’t win it every year. The more times you make the playoffs, the better chance you have of winning it all. If you don’t make the playoffs, you are irrelevant.

D-Bowe, Mark Bradley, Bobby Engram and Turtle. Four Chiefs WRers. 4 Pro Bowlers.

by Patrick Allen on Aug 21, 2009 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

+1

"I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009

by stagdsp on Aug 21, 2009 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

Those were #2 and #3 when I wrote them

not sure why they came out as 1’s…

D-Bowe, Mark Bradley, Bobby Engram and Turtle. Four Chiefs WRers. 4 Pro Bowlers.

by Patrick Allen on Aug 21, 2009 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

You think so highly of all your points that they are all #1.

…and I some what agree as well. I just think we are getting WAY ahead of ourselves. We would laugh at a Cleveland fan who said the same thing and our franchises mirror ourselves pretty well. My main point was that this year can be successful even with missing the playoffs.

And so, Craig finds himself leaping from blog to blog, striving to put right what once went wrong, and hoping each time that his next leap, will be the leap home.

by craig in calgary on Aug 21, 2009 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

I should really read my posts BEFORE I hit post.

Worst. Writer. Ever.

And so, Craig finds himself leaping from blog to blog, striving to put right what once went wrong, and hoping each time that his next leap, will be the leap home.

by craig in calgary on Aug 21, 2009 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think highly of my opinions Craig

they are just my opinions. If you read the post under that you would see all of those coming up 1’s was an error.

Also, my post was in no way meant to be combative. I am sorry if it came out that way. Was just trygn to say that there are clear advantages to making the playoffs.

I agree with you that it can be a good season if we don’t make it. I just think there are no negatives to playing as many playoff games as possible.

D-Bowe, Mark Bradley, Bobby Engram and Turtle. Four Chiefs WRers. 4 Pro Bowlers.

by Patrick Allen on Aug 21, 2009 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

Sorry, I as well wasn't combative

It was a feable attempt at humour (humor for you Americans)

And so, Craig finds himself leaping from blog to blog, striving to put right what once went wrong, and hoping each time that his next leap, will be the leap home.

by craig in calgary on Aug 21, 2009 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

ah haha

I thought you might have been joking. I just wanted to be sure.

D-Bowe, Mark Bradley, Bobby Engram and Turtle. Four Chiefs WRers. 4 Pro Bowlers.

by Patrick Allen on Aug 21, 2009 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

There needs to be a sarcasm font.

D-Bowe, Mark Bradley, Bobby Engram and Turtle. Four Chiefs WRers. 4 Pro Bowlers.

by Patrick Allen on Aug 21, 2009 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not saying you're not right, but ...
The more times you make the playoffs, the better chance you have of winning it all.

The Bills of the ’90s and the Eagles of the 2000s disagree with your premise.

by JacinB on Aug 21, 2009 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

This is just simply not true

It is very simple.

If you don’t make the playoffs your chances of winning the Super Bowl are 0%.

If you do, you have a 1 in 6 chance of making the Super Bowl and 1 and 12 of winning it.

D-Bowe, Mark Bradley, Bobby Engram and Turtle. Four Chiefs WRers. 4 Pro Bowlers.

by Patrick Allen on Aug 21, 2009 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

This will be my only Hockey reference, I promise

“You will miss on 100% of the shots you don’t take” – Wayne Gretzky.

And so, Craig finds himself leaping from blog to blog, striving to put right what once went wrong, and hoping each time that his next leap, will be the leap home.

by craig in calgary on Aug 21, 2009 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

The Cards made the playoffs at 9-7 last year and were supposed to get stomped. They got hot at the right time and nearly won the entire thing.

Also, I don’t remember their exact record, but I know the Steelers were a wild card team, had to play three playoff games on the road, and still won the whole damn thing.

Marley will be walking soon...she could probably play Linebacker better than some of the guys we had.

by PVChiefsfan on Aug 21, 2009 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'd Agree With This

The same thought occured to me when I saw his prediction. I still think the Chiefs are probably a 7-9 team for the season, but 9-7 is also a possibility from what I see of the record and that could be good enough to take the division. I’d still go Chargers, though, but I pick the Chiefs for 2nd place in the AFC West.

Predictions for 2009

1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
3. Maurice Carthon will be the most hated man on the Chiefs' coaching staff within two years.
4. Larry Johnson has already played his last meaningful game for the Kansas City Chiefs. He's gone before the 2009 season starts.
5. Larry Johnson will gain 0 yards rushing for the 2009 Kansas City Chiefs.
6. The Chiefs will go 7-9 in 2009, good for 2nd in the AFC West.
7. Ryan Succop will not perform better in 2009 than Connor Barth did in 2008.

by UCrawford on Aug 21, 2009 10:13 AM CDT reply actions  

I have hope for this season.

The defense looks to be improved this year, and if we had any kind of defense last year we would have won a lot more games. People can say what they want about Thigpen but he could score points.
Cassel is better than Thigpen so with an improved defense and upgraded offense( and yes still worried about RT) and if Haley can find a return guy the special teams play will be better. So with all this making a good run this year is very possible.

Herm is gone things are better with that one move!!

by bringbacktheglory on Aug 21, 2009 10:15 AM CDT reply actions  

Why don't we just skip the games now and concede the season?

Every new season is an opportunity to win it all. The 2008 Cards are a great example of that. Nothing changes that including schedule, injuries, personnel changes, division, nothing. The goal of every NFL team at this time of the year should be to win the Super Bowl, not to be competitive as Herm would say.

This team should go into this season expecting to win it all. Anything less and they are shortchanging themselves, us the loyal fans, the front office, and anybody else who loves the Chiefs.

by Chiefsfan1970 on Aug 21, 2009 10:31 AM CDT reply actions  

This team should go into this season expecting to win it all.

I think they are…and I think that is the fundamental difference between Peterson/Edwards and Pioli/Haley…

Marley will be walking soon...she could probably play Linebacker better than some of the guys we had.

by PVChiefsfan on Aug 21, 2009 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

yessir, wrecked

"I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009

by stagdsp on Aug 21, 2009 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

Welcome to AP Smolder009

Green is very cool :)

Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying

by Steve_Chiefs on Aug 21, 2009 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hey, I'm hopeful--

but let’s not get stuck in group think here. We’re not even close yet.

Points:
1. A lot of our hope is based on the sucktitude of Denver and Oakland. Now, Oakland is Oakland. However, the team is not devoid of talent no matter how badly they reach in the first round or how goofy their ownership is or how many fistfights their coaches get in. They surprised a couple teams last year with a fat punch in the mouth. They are not an automatic 2 wins for us. But they do look to be a non-threat for some time (years).

We’re also hoping that Denver is teh suck and I’m not convinced. McDaniels has made some shocking moves (Cutler/Orton) and they have some player issues (Marshall), but this team really underperformed last season. MickeyD has proven that he can command the offense. They might be bad this year, but who’s certain that the Orton experiment will fail any less than the Cassel experiment? What does Orton do on New England last year? Again, I don’t see us going 2-0 against that team. They might not be much better than us—but they aren’t much worse, either. I think they’ll be our main competition in a couple years.

2. This is San Diego’s year. Now, I don’t for a second believe that Norv Turner can take that team to the Super Bowl, but I do think that this is their window closing, much the same way our 13-3 season was our window closing. They have some flaws but are immensely talented and outclass us in every phase of the game. Who thinks we can beat them either game?

Now, like I said, I think this is the window shutting on whatever run Marty might have started for them. I think they’ll be an average to below-average team in a couple years.

3. One of the absolute worst things I see you guys doing is saying “that second half schedule looks easier than the first half.” Well, it does now, doesn’t it? The problem with that is there’s always a few games with teams that were supposed to be bad that become teams that make a run. There’s always a couple teams that are supposed to be good but end up being average. That Broncos-Bills-Browns-Bengals-Broncos gamut there in the last 5 weeks screams TRAP all over it. Now, are we improving by then? Are we improving more than they are? We’ll have to see.

4. We’re in a dangerous mode of groupthink right now. We’re dismissing early concerns about Cassel, we’re assuming LJ is going to get more than 900 yards this season, and we’re assuming that our defensive line has been improved. We’re all assuming that Chan Gailey’s offense isn’t the sham we saw last season (RUN RUN PASS PUNT) and that Haley will be able to fix it if something goes wrong. We’re assuming that whatshisface knows how to call a defense that isn’t haphazardly correct with random blitzing. Some of those are good assumptions, some aren’t.

5. Per Denny Green, this team is exactly what we thought it was. We have a pourous offensive line on the right side and an unproven defensive line with a couple guys out of position. Our QB situation is not automatically solved because he signed a $60M contract. Our receivers are ass-awful and our linebackers are improved but much thinner than acknowledged. Our coaching staff is new, and green.

I do believe this team will be DOMINANT in a year or two. I do believe that Oakland will be bad for years to come, that Denver is playing with fire, and that San Diego’s run is almost at an end. And I believe we are clearly on the ascent. But we’re not there yet fellas. We are vunerable at every single position and lack depth almost everywhere.

This team is a 5-8 win team. If we go to the playoffs it will be luck. Give it a year before thinking we have a shot at the playoffs. You’re just setting yourselves up for disappointment.

by Justin Bopp on Aug 21, 2009 11:14 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

I agree with 94.7% of what you said

Except for:

We’re all assuming that Chan Gailey’s offense isn’t the sham we saw last season (RUN RUN PASS PUNT)

Chan’s play calling was quite the opposite. Remember the “Arrowspread” or “Bradley to Thigpen”?

And so, Craig finds himself leaping from blog to blog, striving to put right what once went wrong, and hoping each time that his next leap, will be the leap home.

by craig in calgary on Aug 21, 2009 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

Remember his play calling before

the season was lost for the year? Remember his play calling the year before?

RUN TO THE LEFT
RUN UP THE GUT
PASS TO THE OUT
PUNT TO THE 15
REPEAT

by Justin Bopp on Aug 21, 2009 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

last year was gailey's first year

The year before was with Mike Solari and he was a terrible play caller.

by Chiefs Fan Jon on Aug 21, 2009 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think that's more Herm

And his conservative second-half playcalling.

Oh, and our complete lack of execution.

"The first step to penetration... must not be lateral"
-Confucius

by ArrowSpread on Aug 21, 2009 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Have to Disagree

Our Receivers are not ass awful Bowe, Toomer, Ingram, Lelie, Bradley pretty good set of 5 people to throw to not to mention Charles out of the backfield. Our TE’s are not great receiving tight ends as is obvious but Cottam is a great blocker and has all the tools to become a good receiving tight end if he gets some experience.

Our Linebackers are much much much improved but i agree the depth is scary to me. Our front 7 in general is going to suprise alot of people the NT doesn’t have to be incredibly dominant since TJ and Dorsey are both gonna get double teamed. And the only person on our D-line that is “out of position” is Dorsey and he can easily play 3-4 d-end, no he doesn’t have the height but he has the strength speed combo to control that side and demand a double team.

And i believe our QB situation is automatically solved when you get a guy that has a year of experience starting with 11 wins who also has all of the necessary skills needed to lead an offense along with an insane work ethic. The talk of Croyle starting is absolutely ridiculous best case scenario with Croyle is he performs very well this offseason and we trade him for a pick.

The only hole left is the right side of the O-Line but even then its basically just RT we brought in 2 people to play RG in the offseason (yes i’m counting Brown as a RG since that is where he is starting.) And i know that sackintosh is bad but how much of him being bad was playing with the terrible right guard we had last year and him maybe hesitating a second to make sure he doesn’t get beat inside. Houston got one sack against us last game and they have a good young defensive front.

by Chiefs Fan Jon on Aug 21, 2009 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

Igram, Toomer, and Lelie aren’t some shrewd Free Agent pickups. They’re scrap heap leftovers. Toomer may not even make the team, man.

by Justin Bopp on Aug 21, 2009 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Toomer may not make the team???

Where did you hear that? Everything I have heard from camp is that he has been outstanding, catching everything thrown in his direction.

Engram is seasoned vet and, I will agree that he is a little long in the tooth but, he has been known to make clutch plays at important times throughout his career. Lelie may be a very high impact signing, he is the fastest player on the team other than Charles and he has been on teams with terrible QBs for the last few years. When he was in Denver with Plummer, he used to light us up. I think Lelie will find new life here in KC with Matt Cassel. As for the old guys, we’ll have to see but, either way, this is the best receiving corp the Chiefs have had for a long time.

by Chiefsfan1970 on Aug 21, 2009 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Listen to yourself.

You’re making every possible concession and hoping every single gamble pays off. That’s a recipe for disappointment.

by Justin Bopp on Aug 21, 2009 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Seems to me like it's not much of a gamble

when you have several years of experience to base it off of.

by Chiefsfan1970 on Aug 21, 2009 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

hmmm

Last season was enough disappointment for anyone. I don’t think we could get much more disappointed. Being optimistic and hopeful is always good especially when you are seeing things that are looking good for us.

by Chiefsfan85 on Aug 28, 2009 2:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

What's wrong with the Kool-Aid?

Nice read got my clear-colored glasses on for the moment :)

Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying

by Steve_Chiefs on Aug 21, 2009 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's just great to see so much optimism and strong support for what Pioli/Haley are....

….doing. It’s very difficult to really see into the future but I do agree with all of the positive thoughts. For now, it still has to be “one game at a time” and I would say "Baltimore better be ready, because if the aren’t, they may will be starting the season, 0 -1.

by jcox31mc on Aug 21, 2009 11:38 AM CDT reply actions  

Good point

Hell, we could start the season 2-0.

by Justin Bopp on Aug 21, 2009 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

I agree good point!!

but how do you guys quote each other and it show up in a gray box like that? Teach me!!

by krayfish on Aug 21, 2009 11:47 AM CDT reply actions  

show formatting guide

it’s at the bottom of the page under the new post option. it’ll show you how to do stuff there.

by Justin Bopp on Aug 21, 2009 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

The weakness of the division is the sole reason for thinking that we can make the playoffs. What we need to see is #1) shift to winning attitude with #2) an improvement of level of play and competitiveness. Everything else is gravy.

I am optimistic we can achieve the above, but we are very thin at almost every position talent-wise and will probably suffer injuries which, while not an excuse to lose, will impact our ability to achieve the record required to take the division, Chargers are a bit deeper, return a pretty good quarterback, and to the best of my knowledge, are not introducing new schemes, except for the tiresome “wildcat”.

by Kane on Aug 21, 2009 11:58 AM CDT reply actions  

wishful thinking

If the Chiefs go into the 09 season trying to run a conventional offense behind that offensive line expect them to look just as they did at the beginning of 08. Cassell was sacked 3 times by a defense that didnt start its best 2 players. The TD drive everyone is so impressed with came against 6 backups that had just checked in and 2 backups that started in place of pro bowlers Jared Allen and Pat williams

by J ray on Aug 23, 2009 11:04 PM CDT reply actions  

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