Why Dwayne Bowe Will Not Be Traded From The Chiefs
by Matt Conner on Aug 19, 2009 2:33 PM CDT
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I'm late getting online today and and I found myself a bit surprised when stumbling across some of the buzz going 'round. The idea that the Chiefs would trade Dwayne Bowe is ridiculous.
Of course, it's fun to surmise which moves might take place or might not. It's almost as entertaining as game day - the back and forth around the NFL draft, the opening of free agency, etc. We love every rumor because it's fodder for discussion, so I recognize that the consideration of Bowe as the newest member of the Jets is at least fun to discuss. But let's be honest about any level of substance behind the talks.
National Football Post is talking about, the radio stations are talking about it and at least some reporters are tweeting about the whole thing (I hate that word). Yet it makes absolutely no sense for the Chiefs. The reasons:
1. In an off-season where you've already alienated some of your fan base by removing team icon Tony Gonzalez, you can't afford to lose another.
2. Your new head coach loves his skill position players and works best when given the best options. Trading the best receiver on the team goes contrary to this. Maybe if we had a defensive minded coach, but not now.
3. The one place with greater needs than ANY other position on the team is wide receiver. The Chiefs have signed three veterans already in Bobby Engram, Amani Toomer and Ashley Lelie. We've also worked out others like D.J. Hackett. It's ridiculous to think that the same front office scrambling to fill the position with everything but the kitchen sink would turn around and trade their best player at the same position.
4. The response of Bowe to the tutelage and demeanor of Haley finally seems to be setting in with Bowe's recent success in the Texans game.
5. Bowe costs us peanuts for the numbers he produces. You don't trade that if you're a savvy front office.
So it's fun to discuss but there's really no merit to Bowe going anywhere.
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Ed Zachary
(say it outloud with an Asian accent)
stupid rumor, not gonna happen
"I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
Why it could happen...
Pioli will listen to any offer and loves 2nd round picks. A 2010 and 2011 2nd rounder and this deal is done in a heartbeat.
Aint got a beach and I see no mountains, landlocked loungin' in the City of Fountains.
doubt it
when your trading out of a weak group the trade is always going to have to be steep in your favor to make up in oter places immediately. There would have to be players involved in this trade
Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.
Be hard for Pioli to maintain his claim that they are trying to win games now...
After trading TG and then Bowe. I think even a great deal he’d turn down unless it put a great WR on our team this year.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Aug 19, 2009 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm not so sure
Dwayne Bowe is probably in the top half of the NFL’s receivers right now. Can he replace that with equal value with just two second rounders?
by Joel Thorman on Aug 19, 2009 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions
With the combo of...
Next years first, two 2nd rounders next year, and plenty of salaray cap space (yes, I’m assuming a CBA deal gets done)? Yes.
Aint got a beach and I see no mountains, landlocked loungin' in the City of Fountains.
Pretty tough assuming that you can draft a guy thats going to give you 2000+ yards and 10+ TDs
In their first two years. He’s a special player. Id be shocked if any of the WR, who were drafted long before Bowe and make way more money, even come close to those numbers in the next two years.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Aug 19, 2009 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Any wr from this years draft*
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Aug 19, 2009 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Why it could NOT happen~
2 2nd rounders for a 1st round draft choice? ONE THAT THEY NEED? I doubt it 100%!!!!!! If they came with the offer of 1st, and a 2nd and a Late rounder, then he may pull the trigger, but to say 2 2nd rounders for a 1st round draft choice that has 2 seasons of 1000 or more yards, is PLAIN STUPID!
sorry, but it is! a horse is a horse
of course of course!
Ol' Kansan' Chief
by Kansan_Chief on Aug 19, 2009 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions
1ST we would never make a major trade within our own division. 2nd, Pioli is bringing in veterns because he wants to start winning now not in 2 or 3 years which is what would happen if you trade Bowe for draft picks. It makes no sense and thats why it won’t happen. It could happen however in a multi team trade. Now with all the rumors and day dreaming going on in here, chew on this one: What if we traded draft picks to pick up Crabtree. He is content onsitting out the year and reentering the draft. We have cap room. He just wants paid.
Really? We're actually going to warrant that Jets "news" with a reply?
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
Honestly speaking
Every player is available for the right price (Coming from Pioli himself) it’s just that price is way too steep for Bowe. It would have to be a lopsided trade
Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.
WPI
Put up a story that there has been talk in Denver about dealing Marshall to KC for Brodie Croyle and a #2?
Insert Laugh track
Yeah
And no offense to WPI, but leaks haven’t been coming out from anywhere, so I would be skeptical of this.
by Joel Thorman on Aug 19, 2009 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh please Jebus let that happen
Happiness is a long walk with a putter in your hand.
by craig in calgary on Aug 19, 2009 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Just for fun can you imagine?
Bowe, Marshall, Toomer really doesnt sound all that bad.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Aug 19, 2009 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Holy crap
Pioli would go down as the greatest GM of all time if he pulled this off.
We’d still have a pick in every round next year and two pro bowl receivers (and yes I’m calling Dwayne Bowe a pro bowler) for a really long time. Moss and Welker? Try Bowe and Marshall!
Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.
and Engram, and Toomer.
Our offense would be po…TENT
Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.
Don't forget Lelie. Oh yeah, you guys hate Lelie.
by Chiefsfan1970 on Aug 19, 2009 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions
O_O
I didnt even think about lelie or engram or toomer …… oh ya and bradley ……. we wouldnt need a RB ……. spread 5 wides every play haha
seriously
anyone on here have reporter contacts? would be so fun to spread this rumor. maybe even get big enough to make marshall even more pissed, and push towards a deal. lol
by MarineChiefsFan on Aug 19, 2009 2:46 PM CDT reply actions
That makes me wonder
how many trades are instigated by the media.
A lot
but a lot more 10X that never happen
Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying
by Steve_Chiefs on Aug 19, 2009 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Bob Gretz is on it
He’s working the story from our end. Hyping up Croyle to the Donkeys. Croyle starting over Cassel, pleasssse!!
by BeijingKCfan on Aug 19, 2009 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions
From the initial story (and only one with original content to my seeing)
He may have played his way out of the doghouse with five catches in the preseason opener, but the Chiefs are rebuilding and will move a player if he doesn’t fit their long-term plans.
There has never been any report or hint that Bowe is doesn’t fit the “long-term plan.”
I dont know about you but I dont see why would would want a consistent 1000+ yard guy on the team
When we can pick up guys like Lelie for probably more money then the 380ish that Bowe is making.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Aug 19, 2009 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Mike Lombardi..
is off his rocker. The whiskey sells in the KC area will skyrocket if this trade were to go down. I know I’d be drinking myself into the ground if we traded D Bowe.
Hey thanks!
That’s what I’ll tell folks the next time they give me a bad time about my drinking.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
Alienating the fan base will never be a concern with Pioli.
If he thinks trading Bowe makes them a better team for the long haul he will do it in a second.
Toby is in HR, which technically means he works for corporate, so he's really not a part of our family. Also, he's divorced, so he's really not a part of his family.
Better in the long run, long run
Reply button, get to know him, he’s your friend.
Aint got a beach and I see no mountains, landlocked loungin' in the City of Fountains.
Why I want this trade to happen...
Sanchez + Bowe = me winning bet with KC Shuffle
Aint got a beach and I see no mountains, landlocked loungin' in the City of Fountains.
um
why would they trade bowe
if anything they would be trading for another elite wr
wtf thats a pretty dumb trade and pioli knows that
uh yeah
if marshall came over for croyle and a 2…goodness the offense would all of a sudden be ridiculous…period. Marshall MADE Cutler…he threw to him all the time.
it wont happen, much like the bowe trade wont….
However bobby sippio released from lions, sad times sippio fans..(not I)
I would expect thigpen dealt, then kc makes the move for a WR, I dont get why we’re the only ones predicting this.
To an extent, I agree.
Same thing is true for Favre’s deep game. He throws a lot of passes up for grabs down the field. Cutler will have problems pullin’ that shit with Devin Hester, who won’t win the jump ball. Hell, he doesn’t even participate.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
no way!
Bowe makes it happen! Hes the most explosive player we have, he turns 7 yard outs into first downs and more. Keep Bowe
Bowe
Maybe Bowe for for both of Denvers tackles. Don’t See Marshall as our type of player. My suggestion has about as much chance as us trading Bowe.
David Logue
Bowes a no-go
Bowe is stayin home, Jets are goin after Marshall, we don’t need a guy who thinks he calls the shots so I say no to Marshall, let the Jets have him and we still kick the shat outta Denver
Everyone thinks they're fine until someone puts something in them they dont want in them.
I don't kill flies but I like to mess with their minds. I hold them above globes. They freak out and yell, 'Whoa, I'm way too high!'
-Bruce Baum
Haley is driving Bowe to be a complete player
Because he knows Bowe has potential to light up the league. He’s making sure he does it professionally and doesn’t slack off, and I believe Bowe is listening. Bowe is predicted to have his breakout year this year, given that he is supposed to be Cassels new best friend and primary target.
2nd Time
A “Chief To Jets” trade has been brought up lately a lil over a week ago Thigpen was a possible canidate for the Jets as a Vet. QB
http://fifthdown.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/08/11/do-the-jets-still-need-a-veteran-backup-qb/
Other possibilities could be San Diego’s Billy Volek or Kansas City’s Tyler Thigpen. Although Thigpen is young and he didn’t win with the Chiefs last year, he is a mobile quarterback who showed a lot of promise in throwing 17 touchdown passes in his 11 starts.
With Clemens and Sanchez in New York, I just don't see what the interest would be in Thiggy.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
I Agree 1000000%
fix the line and everything else falls into place.
by Chiefsfan1970 on Aug 19, 2009 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Been waitin' to see this one before I spouted off.
O Line needs more work than WR. by far.
I don’t know if it’s by FAR, but #3 in the article above is about the only hole I see. WR more than any other position? At the least, an o-line that gives you a viable play-fake will make even a middle-of-the-road group of WRs serve your purposes. Just ask Pittsburgh.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
or
Jacksonville, Chicago, Baltimore, Miami, Tennessee. All teams who outscored us last year and whose current receivers shouldn’t be considered an upgrade over ours (leaving Tony G outta this, because the math gets painful).
Trading Bowe is a no-brainer
seeing as how we have Turtle ready to step into the #1 spot.
I've been rapping for about seveteen years okay? I don't write my stuff anymore I just kick it from my head you know what I'm sayin? I can do that. No disrespect but that's how I am.
the dead horse has shown some good form in practice too!
Blame my wife!
Waiting until August!
by sir eccles on Aug 19, 2009 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Comedic Gold!
Braccae illae virides cum subucula rosea et tunica Caledonia-quam elenganter concinnatur!
The old nag is EVERYWHERE on the field at once!
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
Meh, it was obligatory at this point... 45 posts in and nobody brought it up yet
I've been rapping for about seveteen years okay? I don't write my stuff anymore I just kick it from my head you know what I'm sayin? I can do that. No disrespect but that's how I am.
Trade Bowe!
Oakland would probably be willing to give up a 4th rounder plus a running back.
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