Chiefs Training Camp Update 8/18 PM
by Joel Thorman on Aug 18, 2009 4:27 PM CDT
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Updated 5:30 PM
The Kansas City Chiefs practice isn't quite done yet but the reports are starting to come in. Here are a few general highlights:
- Mike Vrabel yelled, "They have Favre, but screw them. We've got Zach Thomas."
- Matt Cassel looked really sharp all day
- Dwayne Bowe saw some time with the first team
As always, we'll let you know when we update this with the UWRF reports.
General stuff
- Low 70s with low humidity and low wind (Bob Gretz at CBS Sports)
- The Chiefs practiced in full pads today (Bob Gretz at CBS Sports)
- The Chiefs conditioned after practice (Mitch Holthus Twitter)
Offense
- In Steve Bono fashion, Matt Cassel sold a naked bootleg for a good chunk of yards (Josh Looney at the Mothership)
- Dwayne Bowe, along with a few others, logged time with the first team (Josh Looney at the Mothership)
- Dantrell Savage had a nice cutback run that drew some cheers (Josh Looney at the Mothership)
- Matt Cassel looked sharp all day (save one INT) (Josh Looney at the Mothership)
- Bowe had a nice touchdown grab in 7-on-7 work drawing praise from Haley (Josh Looney at the Mothership)
- Devard Darling left yesterday's practice with a shoulder injury but is back today (Bob Gretz at CBS Sports)
- Barry Richardson continues to work with the first team offense at RT (Bob Gretz at CBS Sports)
- Backed up against their own goal line, Larry Johnson had a 15+ yard run and Jamaal Charles had a 40 yard run (Josh Looney at the Mothership)
- Brodie Croyle fumbled a snap and was replaced by Matt Gutierrez (Bob Gretz at CBS Sports)
- Adam Teicher and the 610 Sports hosts disagree that Cassel looked sharp today
- Matt Gutierrez struggled hitting players in stride today (UWRF)
- Jake O'Connell had a nice block that opened up room for Jamaal Charles on a reception (UWRF)
- Gutierrez hit Toomer on a slant, after which Pendergast addressed Ricky Price about the missed coverage (UWRF)
Defense
- Mike Vrabel and Tamba Hali both had sacks in first team work (Josh Looney at the Mothership)
- Brandon Flowers logged an INT in 7-on-7 work (Josh Looney at the Mothership)
- Monty Beisel had a big hit on Rodney Wright (Josh Looney Twitter)
- Jon McGraw was able to knock down a Matt Gutierrez pass in 7-on-7 (UWRF)
- Mike Brown and Mike Vrabel teamed up to knock down a Cassel pass to Darling (UWRF)
- Alex Magee jumped offsides and had to run (UWRF)
- Wallace Gilberry read a Cassel pass to the flat and caused him to throw it away (UWRF)
- Vince Reid sacked Croyle in 11-on-11 (UWRF)
Special teams
- Jackie Battle, Jamaal Charles and Javarris Williams took equal time returning kicks (Josh Looney at the Mothership)
- Ryan Succop was 3/3 on field goals from 34, 37 and 39 yards (Bob Gretz at CBS Sports)
- In situational work, Succop hit a 52 yard field goal into the wind (Josh Looney at the Mothership)
Injuries
- Not participating today: Tyler Thigpen, Tavares Washington, Zach Thomas and Kolby Smith (Josh Looney at the Mothership)
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Javarris Williams getting reps as a returner
interesting..
interesting.. Vrabel seems like an awesome guy..
Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.
Soudns like a good day
God I hope this is the week things start clicking on both sides of the ball. They are working their asses off and they deserve to see it pay off this weekend.
D-Bowe, Mark Bradley, Bobby Engram and Turtle. Four Chiefs WRers. 4 Pro Bowlers.
Holy shit I'm excited for Friday
Happiness is a long walk with a putter in your hand.
by craig in calgary on Aug 18, 2009 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions
sounded like a GREAT day
*Cassel was sharp
*Hali and Vrabel got sacks
*Charles AND LJ were breaking runs
*Bowe was catching passes
*Succop was perfect, even on a hurried 50+ yd FG
"I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
of course if either Hali or Vrabel got sacks of MacIntosh Im already not impressed
Desperately hoping for Desperate Measures
by averagegatsby on Aug 18, 2009 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Who they got by, to get the sack...
is something they almost never say. I want to know, as i’m sure many others. It almost seems like they don’t want us to know if someone screwed up. I get the impression they are just trying to make the guy who got the sack look better.
"Whenever you go to a live sporting event, always bring a seeing eye dog and cane, just incase the refs forgot their's at home."
by Chiefsuntilidie on Aug 18, 2009 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow could Barry Richardson actually be doing a good job at RT?
I’d be surprised if he started over Mac.
Sooner or later the young
guys have to step up. If not Richardson, then I will bet someone else (not on the roster yet) starts at RT for the first game.
He looked good filling in at LT last year, wasn't too impressed with him at RT last year or this year
I think he’s a back-up LT or maybe a G
2009-10 Predictions:
1. Chiefs will win ATLEAST 6 games, which is a big improvement over 6 wins in 2 seasons
2. Succop will bring stability to the K position for the first time in years
3. Chiefs D will atleast double the number of sacks form last season
4. Cassel will be a top 15 QB
5. Todd Haley won't make a poster and jump around holding it up welcoming the Chiefs players to summer camp, I mean TRAINING camp
maybe explains MacIntoshes problems moving from left to right side
Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying
by Steve_Chiefs on Aug 18, 2009 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Looks like Mike Goff and Barry Richardson are opening up holes for the run game.
The Chiefs offense showed some spark with the running game in afternoon practice. With the ball on the offense’s 1-yard line, RB Larry Johnson burst through the left side for a long run. Several plays later, RB Jamaal Charles did the same thing on the right side.
Ya agaist a defence who couldn't stop the run last year.
Sorry to be Debbie Downer, but they couldn’t run the ball against the Texans. Does the auto tagger work on comments now? I heart Tony Gonzalez
Happiness is a long walk with a putter in your hand.
by craig in calgary on Aug 18, 2009 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Guess not,
Happiness is a long walk with a putter in your hand.
by craig in calgary on Aug 18, 2009 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Sorry that should have been quoted... it was by Bob Gretz and not my words.
I’m confident in the run game… the offensive line protecting the QB is a completely different animal. We shall see how Richardson handles that in a real game.
bobgretz.com
– Barry Richardson continues to run with the No. 1 offense at right tackle. "Barry has a chance," Haley said. "He’s a guy who used the off-season program to his benefit. He lost more weight than anybody else in the program, he got himself into condition and he got stronger. He should continue to get stronger as we move forward. He’s made progress daily. It’s not picture perfect by any means, but he’s created some competition there."
by chicks_love_chiefs on Aug 18, 2009 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Was Richardson a 2nd teamer in the preseason opener?
Someone noted yesterday that the 2’s did a fine job protecting croyle and opening holes for savage in the opener. Most of our runs were up the middle, over the left side, with a few off tackle right and outside right. I think I remember Richardson playing RT with the 2’s on Sat. Maybe the coaches think he’s “doing it right”. It’s been a problem spot for a long time. My guess is the Pioli might be looking around the league for FA’s that don’t make other teams, or someone with maturity who got released or “retired” last year to see if they’d bring some competition to the RT spot…
Friday won’t get here soon enough for me!!!!
The future is ours KC Chiefs fans!!!!!
N. Gift
by giftedchiefsfan on Aug 18, 2009 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions
I think
he was at RT with the #2s, but spent some time at LT with the #3 line, and looked bad.
but, I may be wrong
"I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
Ya but
not everyone can play both sides. Some great RT’s can’t do squat at LT
The future is ours KC Chiefs fans!!!!!
N. Gift
by giftedchiefsfan on Aug 18, 2009 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions
true.
I really hope B-Rich does grab the RT job by the balls and run.
I’ve been hoping for that since last year’s draft!
"I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
Sounds like
Haley likes his work ethic…that sort of thing goes a long way with the coaches cuz they know he’ll continue to improve as the year goes on. Hard work always pays off. Sounds like he’s doing what it takes. And being a 2nd year guy gives him the advantage of knowing what’s expected. Sounds like he really wants to earn a spot.
The future is ours KC Chiefs fans!!!!!
N. Gift
by giftedchiefsfan on Aug 18, 2009 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions
It was #2s against #2s, which may say more about Houston's depth than Richardson's emergence as a pro-bowler.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
Has Succup ever missed a field goal?
Happiness is a long walk with a putter in your hand.
by craig in calgary on Aug 18, 2009 4:39 PM CDT reply actions
not since the 5th grade
Desperately hoping for Desperate Measures
by averagegatsby on Aug 18, 2009 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Lol
Thank You Carl Peterson for drafting Dustin Colquitt
by KansasCityShuffle on Aug 18, 2009 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions
The Bono-Cassel reference made me throw-up a little
"Whenever you go to a live sporting event, always bring a seeing eye dog and cane, just incase the refs forgot their's at home."
by Chiefsuntilidie on Aug 18, 2009 4:46 PM CDT reply actions
just kinda
came up in your mouth, did it?
The future is ours KC Chiefs fans!!!!!
N. Gift
by giftedchiefsfan on Aug 18, 2009 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Anyone think...
Mo Leggett could be a decent return guy? Seems to have quick feet and while you don’t have to best the fastest guy to be a return guy, I feel like he might have the vision and smarts to do well in that role.
I’m looking at this from 50,000 feet but just a thought…
I mentioned that a couple weeks ago
Leggett definitely has a nose for the endzone.
by Chiefsfan1970 on Aug 18, 2009 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Let's keep that precious lil' body in our defensive secondary
and away from special teams where he could get hurt
Thank You Carl Peterson for drafting Dustin Colquitt
by KansasCityShuffle on Aug 18, 2009 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions
He definitely has the straight ahead speed, but a good return man has to be quick, able to cut on a dime, and fearless. Don’t know if Leggett has those, but we’ll find out.
Anyone think…
Mo Leggett could be a decent return guy?
I do – For a returner, I’ve always liked CB’s better than WR’s – I don’t know why…maybe they’re better at catching the ball and then running the other way with it? =)
Marley will be walking soon...she could probably play Linebacker better than some of the guys we had.
Is anyone concerned that Matt Cassel throws AT LEAST one pick everyday?
I kind of am…. Kind of
Not really
At this point, the D has been jumping routes and pretty much knows what to expect.
How many throws
I wish they would say sometime how many throws Cassel is making… If he throws 40 and gets 1 picked everyday I am cool with that… Especially since they know the route is coming…
by flyin_squirl on Aug 18, 2009 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions
I just have to judge what I saw in first preseason game
and with the exception of one rushed high ball (that was still catchable) his passes were all on target.
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Thank thee
Seriously though.
How was a RT not drafted in the 4th or even 3rd round last year? Is that 4th round DB even going to sniff the field this year?
Happiness is a long walk with a putter in your hand.
by craig in calgary on Aug 18, 2009 4:57 PM CDT reply actions
Don't remind us
Thank You Carl Peterson for drafting Dustin Colquitt
by KansasCityShuffle on Aug 18, 2009 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh
you’re referring to Washington. That doesn’t nearly bother me as much as the selection of Morgan while overlooking RT/RG
Thank You Carl Peterson for drafting Dustin Colquitt
by KansasCityShuffle on Aug 18, 2009 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah really,
especially if Morgan does not cot the mustard, that Zuttah guy was sitting there.
Now hopefully this team is fun to watch again! Thanks Scott, Clark!!
I'm with you
I was screaming at the TV for a RT from rounds 1-5.
Then, Colin Brown… we’ll see how that goes.
"I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
Now Brown is
being tried at RG. Probably grooming him to replace Goff next year so figure he’d take the year to learn from him.
that's fine by me
Being a Mizzou alum, I’m rooting for him.
But, I’d be pretty darn happy with a Phil Loadholt or equivalent out of the 09 draft…
"I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
Isn't Brown like 6'7"
Seems a little tall doesn’t he???
by Chiefsfan1970 on Aug 18, 2009 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions
yes, on the end of the line 6’ 5" to 6’ 8" is ideal to handle the pass rush but 6’ 7" is tall to place in the passing lane. I havent seen him play, maybe he plays in a low, wide stance.
the Chiefs QB's are 6'4 :)
Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying
by Steve_Chiefs on Aug 18, 2009 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions
I think 6'8" would be the tallest guard in the NFL...
probably by a few inches…
Marley will be walking soon...she could probably play Linebacker better than some of the guys we had.
Reports on Washington are generally quite positive.
One thing about D-Bowe runnin’ 3rd string is it puts Washington against him, and word is that Washington is doing quite well against D-Bowe and Lawrence. Reading between the lines, he’s singling up in man on ‘em, and not just playing a zone. Personally, I think Washington might be a very bright spot in an already good secondary. You can’t out-distance him and you can’t out-jump him on the fly route, which is possibly the biggest weakness in our cover-2 corners.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
Pretty sad that our 4th round CB could probably singlehandedly neutralize Oaklands 7th overall pick blindfolded.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Aug 18, 2009 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Washington was my favorite pick this year
I can’t explain it, but something tells me he could be REALLY good…
(Besides, he was essentially a no-brainer in Round 4 – If he develops his mind to a point where it matches his athletic potential, he’s a ProBowler, and Pioli looks like a genius. If, on the other hand, he just uses his current athleticism, he could be a special teams ace (his size and speed make him perfect for this), and Pioli breaks even, ’cause ehhhh, he was just a 4th rounder)
Marley will be walking soon...she could probably play Linebacker better than some of the guys we had.
yeah
he’s built like a man-to-man shut-down type of guy. I think you’re on to something there. Teach Bowe a lesson and leverage his abilities to get the most out of Washington at the same time. I like it.
Braccae illae virides cum subucula rosea et tunica Caledonia-quam elenganter concinnatur!
Best quote from 2009 training camp
coming from Mike Vrabel
Thank You Carl Peterson for drafting Dustin Colquitt
by KansasCityShuffle on Aug 18, 2009 4:58 PM CDT reply actions
+1
"Whenever you go to a live sporting event, always bring a seeing eye dog and cane, just incase the refs forgot their's at home."
by Chiefsuntilidie on Aug 18, 2009 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions
I like Vrabel but what's he talking about???
We technically don’t have Thomas if he’s still over with the red cross gang!!!!!
The future is ours KC Chiefs fans!!!!!
N. Gift
by giftedchiefsfan on Aug 18, 2009 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions
+1
- In Steve Bono fashion, Matt Cassel sold a naked bootleg for a good chunk of yards (Josh Looney at the Mothership)
Predictions as of 06.24.2009.
Larry Johnson will be a top 3 fantasy pick once again in 2010 (after a monster season in 2009.)
Dwayne Bowe will be a 2009 Pro Bowl selection.
Brandon Flowers will have at least 6 INTs in 2009 season.
Todd Haley will have a sideline shouting match caught on TV yelling at one of his asst. coaches.
by 58 was my friend on Aug 18, 2009 5:18 PM CDT reply actions
I vote for Jamall Charles to be our return guy.
Hell, if no one else if gonna grab this spot why can’t it be him?
by CALIFAN1986 on Aug 18, 2009 5:41 PM CDT reply actions
yeah, i was just thinking that in another post
Especially if Battle or Savage step up to take some RB carries…
Charles could be the next Leon Washington
"I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
With LJ already prob'ly the #1 back, it makes sense.
Plus I’d like to see what Battle can do in… uhhhh… battle.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
Anyone think that they'll try...
Ashlie Lelie at KR???? They say he flies…4.23 40yds. Wow if he’s good in the open field, he might be the guy.
The future is ours KC Chiefs fans!!!!!
N. Gift
by giftedchiefsfan on Aug 18, 2009 6:01 PM CDT reply actions
whatever
Lelie, Q. Lawrence, Savage, Battle, Charles, Taurus, Leggett,
Who cares?!
Just find SOMEBODY that can get past the 20yd line everytime, past the 30 once in a while, and to the house once or twice a year.
is that too much to ask//?
"I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
ya ok
I’ll buy that. Haven’t had one since D-Hall. It’ll be a nice change…
The future is ours KC Chiefs fans!!!!!
N. Gift
by giftedchiefsfan on Aug 18, 2009 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions
I hear Tamarick Vanover is clearing his calender 'til Christmas.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
Here's a stat for you guys
Ashley Lelie ranks first among active NFL receivers in yards per reception.
Player, team Yrs. Rec. Y/R
Ashley Lelie, KC 7 217 17.3
Vincent Jackson, SD 4 130 17.2
Santonio Holmes, Pit 3 156 16.6
Calvin Johnson, Det 2 126 16.6
Andre’ Davis, Hou 7 150 16.1
"The first step to penetration... must not be lateral"
-Confucius
Randy Moss like turn around...
I really hope this what we have to look forward too. Hopefully he will breakout again, or at least some what, instead of the crap he has been doing for the last 2 seasons. Maybe this is the chance he needed to bring his career back to life. Don’t get me wrong, I’m know fan of the guy, but this is what we need him to do for the chiefs.
"Whenever you go to a live sporting event, always bring a seeing eye dog and cane, just incase the refs forgot their's at home."
by Chiefsuntilidie on Aug 18, 2009 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions
I've said it before
He’s been part of some bad organizations where underachieving has been acceptable. If he doesn’t make it work this season he may as well hang it up.
"The first step to penetration... must not be lateral"
-Confucius
*no*
"Whenever you go to a live sporting event, always bring a seeing eye dog and cane, just incase the refs forgot their's at home."
by Chiefsuntilidie on Aug 18, 2009 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Good to see my man Savage doing some things
And I have to admit, my confidence in Succop is steadily increasing.
Braccae illae virides cum subucula rosea et tunica Caledonia-quam elenganter concinnatur!
Honestly, I am already sealed on the guy,
He made a great kick in the rain, which kinda of suprised me. In my book he already is 100x better than that who shall not be named.
"Whenever you go to a live sporting event, always bring a seeing eye dog and cane, just incase the refs forgot their's at home."
by Chiefsuntilidie on Aug 18, 2009 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions
+1
Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying
by Steve_Chiefs on Aug 18, 2009 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Most of us would be better kickers than *** ******.
Just kidding of course, though you never know. I’m liking Succop too, just hope he sticks with it. I miss the days where we never had to worry about field goals. His range makes things all the better as well. It would be incredible to have another kicker comparable to Stenerud and Lowery.
Boy Teicher is turning into a negative douchebag....
Can we really handle two Whitlocks?
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
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