Why the Chiefs Won't Cut McIntosh...
by Dono on Aug 17, 2009 5:08 PM CDT
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There is a simple reason as to why this will not happen this season...
He takes up too much cap room to let go.
Usually this is a bad thing, however, for the Chiefs and their current salary cap situation they are simply too close to the NFL's floor requirement to let go of Damion McIntosh's six year $18 Million contract. He's just too valuable (cap wise) to let go.
Take a look back at Primetime's article pertaining to the Salary Cap situation nearly a month ago and the affect of the Matt Cassel extension. We were still around $30 Million under the cap and needed to spend (by his estimations) another $13 million to meet the Salary Cap Floor.
The following figures are taken from the wikipedia article on the Salary Cap:
In 2009, the cap will be $128 million per team, while the floor will be 87.6% of the cap, using the formula provided in the league's collective bargaining agreement, the floor will be $112.1 million.
If that be the case our payroll prior to the Matt Cassel deal was around $98 million. The transactions that have succeeded the Cassel deal have been the release/waiver of Weston Dacus, Ingle Martin, Edwin Harrison, Tony Curtis, Tanner Purdum, and Jeff Webb, in favor for Tyson Jackson, Matt Gutierrez, Amani Toomer, Vince Redd, Thomas Gafford, and Ashley Lelie, correspondingly.
The only transaction that created a major flux within the payroll was Jackson's 5 year, $57 Million contract with $31 Million guaranteed. Last year, Glenn Dorsey's 2008 salary was $6,933,250 and his contract was 5 year, $51 million with $22 million guaranteed. Therefore, Jackson's 2009 salary will be in the ballpark of $7.5-$9 Million (I don't know how to calculate the exact number). Hence, the Chiefs will be remain around $6 Million dollars under the floor (give or take a million dollars or so for Amani Toomer's deal).
Taking McIntosh's $2.5 Million dollar salary just doesn't seem possible if the Chiefs indeed remain under the floor. Surely his ability does not warrant his salary but that's not currently what is most important. The importance lies within the space consumed by his salary, rather than the space taken up by his rotund belly
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We released Dacus?
Thank You Carl Peterson for drafting Dustin Colquitt
by KansasCityShuffle on Aug 17, 2009 5:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You had me at 'rotund belly'
Thank You Carl Peterson for drafting Dustin Colquitt
by KansasCityShuffle on Aug 17, 2009 5:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Rec for space is relative :)
Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying
by Steve_Chiefs on Aug 17, 2009 5:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Cap floor
I disagree.
I think the Chiefs will have Zero problems hitting the minimum cap.
They won’t let something like that stop a transaction that they feel is best for the team and the “right 53”
If (and in my opinion, WHEN) they cut Sackintosh… it will likely correspond with a Free agent signing that will take up comparable cap space.
Plus, they also will probably take a “cap hit” when cutting him, leaving some dead money on the table.
Again, IF the staff feels like he’s not part of the Right 53… he WILL be cut.
"I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
by stagdsp on Aug 17, 2009 5:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree
Some UFA’s that will be around after the 53 man cuts will come with a higher price tag (at least league minum of $900k+) and if the Levi Jones scuttle butt is true than he would easily take up the 2.5 million plus take his roster spot. We will hit the minimum even if we end up having to pull some of next years cap dollar’s forward into this year.
by TonyG88 on Aug 17, 2009 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Okay what scuttlebut?
Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying
by Steve_Chiefs on Aug 17, 2009 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What'd you call me?
Thank You Carl Peterson for drafting Dustin Colquitt
by KansasCityShuffle on Aug 17, 2009 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dont think he will be cut...
we have no depth at RT whatsoever….if anything he will be 2nd string with a new guy brought in…
by woodman212 on Aug 17, 2009 6:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I dont think
he will be cut. If hes on the verge of being cut, why is he working with the first team? If anything, in a weak race for the RT position, he’d be atleast on team 2 if he were on the verge of being cut.
Colin Brown, Herb Taylor, Barry Richardson ALL have an advantage over Dmac because they are young. D-mac is at a disadvantage because if any of these young guys are equal to his talent, the younger person will play. I doubt any of those guys will be cut. Taylor is too valuable at 2nd string LT and maybe 1st string LG after Waters is gone. Richardson is still a bit raw and needs more time. Could develop into RG to replace Goff. Brown could develop into the RT position and hes a monster at 6’7’’ 335lbs.
Of course, that speculation is a long shot. That would give us Albert, Taylor, Niswanger, Richardson and Brown. They would be a very young OL, most likely not doing so well in their 1st 2 seasons or so of playing together. But OLs are a deadly force when they have played several years together, forming the cohesiveness that you need to have a successful OL.
The only cut at RT that makes sense…is D-Mac. But because we have no depth at RT, he will be retained.
by Petey14 on Aug 17, 2009 6:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
he's working with the 2nd team today
Colin Brown is working at RG
Herb Taylor is better at backup LT
IMO, it’s Richardson or McIntosh… ONLY until a FA is brought in (soon) and McIntosh is more likely to be cut than kept on as a backup
"I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
by stagdsp on Aug 17, 2009 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So Richardson was with the #1s?
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
by hmills110 on Aug 17, 2009 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's what I heard...
I hope he works out because everyone except Carr was a waste last year on day 2. (Franklin, Robinson, Johnston, Merritt)
by I_Bleed_Red. on Aug 18, 2009 1:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Like someone else said
in another post.
McIntosh has alot of cap space. We are barely over the cap minimum IF we are. If McIntosh isnt the starter, we will DEFINATELY keep him as a backup because we have no depth at RT. If whoever goes down, McIntosh would be the best RT to replace him. Again, he takes up alot of cap space and we can always get rid of him next year.
I will agree with one thing. IF we bring in another vet at RT whos contract is up to or near DMacs, i could see us cuttin him. But i doubt it happens.
by Petey14 on Aug 18, 2009 2:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Salary cap isn't a consideration IMO, in fact, if he's cut it might count more against the cap this year.
I don’t know the structure of D-Mac’s contract, but it’ s possible that if he gets cut he would actually count more, not less against the cap this year due to all the guaranteed money counting against this year’s cap instead of spread out over the remaining years of the contract
2009-10 Predictions:
1. Chiefs will win ATLEAST 6 games, which is a big improvement over 6 wins in 2 seasons
2. Succop will bring stability to the K position for the first time in years
3. Chiefs D will atleast double the number of sacks form last season
4. Cassel will be a top 15 QB
5. Todd Haley won't make a poster and jump around holding it up welcoming the Chiefs players to summer camp, I mean TRAINING camp
by Chiefs_KC on Aug 17, 2009 8:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
But
we have no quality backup. If Dmac is out, BRich or Taylor is in and I dont think Brich is ready. Taylor MIGHT be but from what I understand, he struggles on the right side. Colin Brown is a rookie and most likely not ready. Dmac is at the very least, a decent backup considering what we have.
The way I understand the salaray cap, if a player is cut now, they only have to pay that seasons guaranteed money and the rest of it counts against the cap the next season. If thats correct, than it wouldnt cost more if we cut mcintosh. It would be the same this year, and count more next year.
Again, thats just the way I THINK it is, but I could be wrong.
Either way, whoever plays, we dont have a quality backup which is why Dmac is important even if hes not good enough to start.
by Petey14 on Aug 18, 2009 2:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
okay, why is he the starter then?
oh yeah, he’s the best RT we have right now.
by Vince D on Aug 17, 2009 10:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think that's been the case, Vince.
He looks like a monster guard, to me.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
by hmills110 on Aug 17, 2009 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Im pretty sure that if they cut D Mac they wouldnt have to pay him his 2.5, They have already paid him his guarentee, (Im not sure) But I think his salary wouldnt count on the cap at all, But still If they didnt think he could benifit the team they would cut him. they have several players that they could resign and picking up FAs.
by dougritchey on Aug 20, 2009 12:37 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
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