Chiefs vs. Texans: Second Half Overflow Thread
by DThomasReigns on Aug 15, 2009 9:46 PM CDT
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The Chiefs trail the Texans 16-10 at the moment after a TD pass from QB Tyler Thigpen to TE Brad Cottam.
5 minutes to go.
Head coach Todd Haley has made the 2009 Chiefs training camp about situational awareness, and this is as good a test as any for both sides of the ball.
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Nobody gets out alive
Phase 1: Assemble expensive, below average players
Phase 2: ?
Phase 3: CHAMPIONSHIP!
-RoyalsRetro
by ratherfantastic on Aug 15, 2009 9:49 PM CDT reply actions
^^&#%&^%$&^#*$*&(^#&^@$&*#&&$(*#^%$*(#@
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D-Bowe, Mark Bradley, Bobby Engram and Turtle. Four Chiefs WRers. 4 Pro Bowlers.
this suckssss
I gotta wait til tomorrow 7AM PST to watch this replay on NFLN
Predictions as of 06.24.2009.
Larry Johnson will be a top 3 fantasy pick once again in 2010 (after a monster season in 2009.)
Dwayne Bowe will be a 2009 Pro Bowl selection.
Brandon Flowers will have at least 6 INTs in 2009 season.
Todd Haley will have a sideline shouting match caught on TV yelling at one of his asst. coaches.
by 58 was my friend on Aug 15, 2009 9:51 PM CDT reply actions
we need someone in KCMO to SLING BOX us
Predictions as of 06.24.2009.
Larry Johnson will be a top 3 fantasy pick once again in 2010 (after a monster season in 2009.)
Dwayne Bowe will be a 2009 Pro Bowl selection.
Brandon Flowers will have at least 6 INTs in 2009 season.
Todd Haley will have a sideline shouting match caught on TV yelling at one of his asst. coaches.
by 58 was my friend on Aug 15, 2009 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions
The LEGGET show
c’mon Maurice!!!!!!!!!
PICK 6 and lets call it a night and win this game
Predictions as of 06.24.2009.
Larry Johnson will be a top 3 fantasy pick once again in 2010 (after a monster season in 2009.)
Dwayne Bowe will be a 2009 Pro Bowl selection.
Brandon Flowers will have at least 6 INTs in 2009 season.
Todd Haley will have a sideline shouting match caught on TV yelling at one of his asst. coaches.
by 58 was my friend on Aug 15, 2009 9:54 PM CDT reply actions
That'd be nice.
Would certainly make my day.
playing FTW
Cassel vs. Thigpen in Camp should improve the play of both.
Next on the need list: linebacker, and both lines
by Bleedingredandgold on Aug 15, 2009 9:59 PM CDT reply actions
GRRRR>...
My OTA signal has started sucking ass…
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUck.
Herm Edwards: "There's FOUR quarters in football?!"
Nail meet coffin
lol
Phase 1: Assemble expensive, below average players
Phase 2: ?
Phase 3: CHAMPIONSHIP!
-RoyalsRetro
by ratherfantastic on Aug 15, 2009 10:02 PM CDT reply actions
For the game, not the season
Phase 1: Assemble expensive, below average players
Phase 2: ?
Phase 3: CHAMPIONSHIP!
-RoyalsRetro
by ratherfantastic on Aug 15, 2009 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions
too much pressure, but nothing to lose
Cassel vs. Thigpen in Camp should improve the play of both.
Next on the need list: linebacker, and both lines
by Bleedingredandgold on Aug 15, 2009 10:02 PM CDT reply actions
Tyler Thigpen has No Football IQ. When Pioli talks about accountability, he’s looking at guys like thigpen who do stupid things play after play
What are you talking about?
He had maybe 1 second. The offensive line completely folded.
- W. Bloomquist homered to deep center
- P. Earth explodes
+1
TT had a man in his face, virtually unblocked, and nearly made the throw.
Cassel vs. Thigpen in Camp should improve the play of both.
Next on the need list: linebacker, and both lines
by Bleedingredandgold on Aug 15, 2009 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions
And he HAD to make the throw. It was 4th down.
- W. Bloomquist homered to deep center
- P. Earth explodes
lets see anyone make a throw with someone in your face every play
Herm is gone things are better with that one move!!
by bringbacktheglory on Aug 15, 2009 10:50 PM CDT up reply actions
last year gonzalez bailed him out on those, he is a terrible qb, can’t read the game, and makes terrible un-intelligent decisions
Still the only Chiefs QB to lead a TD drive
Cassel vs. Thigpen in Camp should improve the play of both.
Next on the need list: linebacker, and both lines
by Bleedingredandgold on Aug 15, 2009 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions
he creates chaos… in a bad way. Good QB’s make everyone better around them. Thigpen pads stats by running around like crazy
Pay no attention to the TD
these are not the 7 points you are looking for. Move along, move along.
Cassel vs. Thigpen in Camp should improve the play of both.
Next on the need list: linebacker, and both lines
by Bleedingredandgold on Aug 15, 2009 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Better to go down, and let time run out, hey?
Cassel vs. Thigpen in Camp should improve the play of both.
Next on the need list: linebacker, and both lines
by Bleedingredandgold on Aug 15, 2009 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Let me guess
You are vision impaired, and couldn’t see the white jerseys bearing down on him.
But he’s still the only QB with a TD on our side, today.
Cassel vs. Thigpen in Camp should improve the play of both.
Next on the need list: linebacker, and both lines
by Bleedingredandgold on Aug 15, 2009 10:07 PM CDT up reply actions
you are right, I am vision impaired, that’s why I’m watching the last drive again.
1:30 – Throw over the middle into traffic with 3 whites
1:20 – flees the pocket because he can’t read the defense, gain of 10
:55 – Run by savage for a gain of 10. 1st down
:42 – 1 and 10. Flip to savage, idiotic, fumble, loss of 10.
3 down 25 – throw across the field. Stupid.
4 down – had to throw, but picked off
His own stupidity
on third down created the interception on 4th down.
Guess his stupidity created the only TD, too
Ain’t saying he’s better than Cassel, but his short-clock play’s better than BC’s. He’s got his team moving, and he made things happen, good as well as bad, and overall more good than bad.
My stat: thalove: Thigpen hater.
Cassel vs. Thigpen in Camp should improve the play of both.
Next on the need list: linebacker, and both lines
by Bleedingredandgold on Aug 15, 2009 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions
If every game
was a 2 minute drill thigpen would be great. It’s not, in a real football game, the 60 minute kind, you actually have to play under center, take a 5 step drop and make a throw. Thigpen can’t do that. Brodie can. Brodie was WAAAAY better than thigpen.
You are right. I hate thigpen. He represents two wins, terrible qb play, and the occasional wow play, followed by a pick.
And Croyle represents
vanilla play, some bad decisions (last year, as the starter), and fragility.
you cannot teach durability, or will to win.
You really think Croyle would have done better last year? I don’t.
You’re a TT hater. If Tyler walked on water, you’d gripe tha he can’t swim.
Cassel vs. Thigpen in Camp should improve the play of both.
Next on the need list: linebacker, and both lines
by Bleedingredandgold on Aug 15, 2009 10:20 PM CDT up reply actions
He-he, cant swim, funny.
Now hopefully this team is fun to watch again! Thanks Scott, Clark!!
Not about brodie to me really
I thought he played better, but he’s not going to lead a team to the superbowl… so don’t really care.
Thigpen I do care about. he’s fun to watch, yes, some good plays, yes. but he is terrible. he won two games last year. and if we let him he would walk on water and lead us to the promised land…
… of another 2-14 season because he is THAT bad.
Yes, can’t stand him.
Then your eval of him isn't going to be accurate
Croyle looked better than last year, Cassel looked tenative, more afraid to lose the game than motivated to win the game.
Thigpen, whatever his lacks, played with fire, and his leadership was obvious.
Cassel vs. Thigpen in Camp should improve the play of both.
Next on the need list: linebacker, and both lines
by Bleedingredandgold on Aug 15, 2009 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions
and my eval is fine...
I had 14-16 games or whatever to eval him last year. He was terrible and I was objective until the end of the season. now I’m jaded because I know what he can do.
win two games.
With little O, and no D to speak of
But the D’s TT’s fault, too, right?
Cassel vs. Thigpen in Camp should improve the play of both.
Next on the need list: linebacker, and both lines
by Bleedingredandgold on Aug 15, 2009 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions
and TT's inability
to read a defense, go through a progression, and make a good decision and throw is the defenses fault?
He also had dbowe, gonzalez and johnson. plenty of O. Oh, and an entire offense geared towards the little strengths he has. He sure produced with that.
Going thru a progression is a luxury Thiggy's NEVER HAD.
We don’t know if he can stand up and throw from the pocket, because there’s never been a pocket for him! And if he had one, it’d take a while for him to settle down to the point where a good eval could be made.
He hasn’t looked impressive on those few plays where good fortune or good feet bought him time to survey the field. But those opportunities were, again, few.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
disagree
the reason it looks like he doesn’t have time is because after a half second he scrambles, and the of course he has guys chasing him, because HE broke the pocket.
If he had any kind of pocket presence, you know… the kind where you step UP in the pocket and make a throw, instead of burning rubber out to the left or right. he could try and make a throw. Brodie wasn’t scrambling for his life tonight. and neither was cassel.
Why is tyler treated special? Because he caught a flea flicker pass from Bradley last year? Hardly qualifications for a good qb.
Haley so looked like he wanted to chuck those headsets.
Cantaloupe? More like wontaloupe. Lazy ass melons.
Im outta here now..
Was fun followin the game with you guys. Now im going to watch the Hawks poop on the Chargers=]
Keep safe guys
I loved
Haley tapping Thigpen on the back after that pick. He knows none of that was his fault there at the end. That O-line was AWFUL.
Monday, we will see some cuts most likely
Yeah, let's just keep matriculatin' the ball down the field, boys! ...
ah well
Good try to come back, but still have a ways to go. I did see a number of things that look promising, the D looks like they may do a lot better job of getting pressure this year. O needs work yet, but there are signs of life.
Chiefs go 9-7. LJ makes 1400 yards. DBowe makes 1200 yards. Defense #18.
The D did seem to
play with some fire, and speed.
Now hopefully this team is fun to watch again! Thanks Scott, Clark!!
I know it is preseason, but...
Not at all impressed with Cassell, I am gagging as I say this Brodie looked better than Cassell tonight.
Now hopefully this team is fun to watch again! Thanks Scott, Clark!!
Won't downgrade Cassell just yet
Croyle looked better than last year, too. There’s some bright spots in several places
Cassel vs. Thigpen in Camp should improve the play of both.
Next on the need list: linebacker, and both lines
by Bleedingredandgold on Aug 15, 2009 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Cassell for all the work
he has had with the first team did not move the ball well is what I am trying to say, I am a bit skeptical of our 60+ dollar man at this point.
Now hopefully this team is fun to watch again! Thanks Scott, Clark!!
New team, new system
I’d like more competition at the QB position, though. Cassel needs to step up quick
Cassel vs. Thigpen in Camp should improve the play of both.
Next on the need list: linebacker, and both lines
by Bleedingredandgold on Aug 15, 2009 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Agreed, but
he got paid, now it is time to produce.
Now hopefully this team is fun to watch again! Thanks Scott, Clark!!
No quibble
He’s practically coronated, time to earn the crown. Can’tblame LJ for lack of production, this is suposed to be Cassel’s O.
Cassel vs. Thigpen in Camp should improve the play of both.
Next on the need list: linebacker, and both lines
by Bleedingredandgold on Aug 15, 2009 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Jackie Battle ran with some authority!
He looked like he wanted to be there.
Now hopefully this team is fun to watch again! Thanks Scott, Clark!!
agreed
and D-Bowe looked like he had his head in the game, for once.
Cassel vs. Thigpen in Camp should improve the play of both.
Next on the need list: linebacker, and both lines
by Bleedingredandgold on Aug 15, 2009 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Yep, Haley got his attention!
Now hopefully this team is fun to watch again! Thanks Scott, Clark!!
Maybe now you guys will listen to me about Battle.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
I thought Cassel put the ball where it was supposed to be.
If he had the starting WRs in there, he would have moved the ball. He doesn’t quite have Brodies arm but, Cassel is still the best overall QB we have. They were playing Matt “close to the vest” as Haley said in his post game. They ran the ball alot and were not slinging the ball very much.
Fucking WRs.
by Chiefsfan1970 on Aug 15, 2009 11:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Then again...
Cassel + Croyle = 3 pts
Thigpen = 7 points
Just sayin’
Cassel vs. Thigpen in Camp should improve the play of both.
Next on the need list: linebacker, and both lines
by Bleedingredandgold on Aug 15, 2009 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Croyle fewer wins
Cassel (as Eric notes) played a version of the spread with a much, much better team last year.
Just sayin’
Cassel vs. Thigpen in Camp should improve the play of both.
Next on the need list: linebacker, and both lines
by Bleedingredandgold on Aug 15, 2009 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions
This is not about croyle.
we’ll have to see about cassel, pioli thinks he’s the guy, so he’ll get his chance. Thigpen had his last year and produced as best he could
and won two games.
Show’s over folks.
Bones also kept us
in some games last year, we had a bad football team all around last year.
Now hopefully this team is fun to watch again! Thanks Scott, Clark!!
Croyle looked WAAAAYYY better than bones tonight.
by Chiefsfan1970 on Aug 15, 2009 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Agreed.
He also looked better than Cassell, just sayin.
Now hopefully this team is fun to watch again! Thanks Scott, Clark!!
First off lets wait till regular season to evaluate croyle vs. thigpen
Thigpen has proven much more when it actually counts…Plus thiggy had no actual WR’s to throw too…
Croyle looked good yeah, but he had 2 of our start wr’s out there..Thiggy was playing with the scrubs..
Seriously, its preseason..Wayyyy to early to make judgements
Thigpen would have won most of his games had we not had one of the worst defenses in history..Seriously people, we went from terrible on offense to solid and exciting because of thigpen..How quickly do you forget that Croyle had his chances and didn’t ever throw 2 td’s in a game!!
by CALIFAN1986 on Aug 15, 2009 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree,
you have to admit Croyle looked good tonight.
Now hopefully this team is fun to watch again! Thanks Scott, Clark!!
It sounded like he played well
But he was playing with Bowe against 2nd & 3rd stringers
by DThomasReigns on Aug 15, 2009 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions
He looked good
but Cassel has already won the spot..And thiggy will be coming in for certain “creative” plays like occasional flea flickers etc….
Croyle may be the 2nd qb but thiggy has more likelihood of seeing the playing field this year
by CALIFAN1986 on Aug 15, 2009 10:53 PM CDT up reply actions
All the QBs did okay tonight.
It’s actually one of the few positions I’m not worried about.
I will still say that Brodie was the most impressive tonight for sure. That arm is a fucking cannon! I have been chastised for saying this before but, I think Brodie is the most gifted QB of the three we have. Just my opinion.
by Chiefsfan1970 on Aug 15, 2009 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Gifted? Maybe
Durable? There’s the question. Maybe with another year to really heal up.
I separated my shoulder last august, and it still hasn’t fully healed. Granted, I’m over 40, but it goes to show that joint injuries can nag at you.
Cassel vs. Thigpen in Camp should improve the play of both.
Next on the need list: linebacker, and both lines
by Bleedingredandgold on Aug 15, 2009 11:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Hopefully, he wont have to play.
But when he does completely heal, I wont mind having him under center. He can make some throws that Cassel cant make.
by Chiefsfan1970 on Aug 15, 2009 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, Tyler is only
effective out of the spread though. Of course Cassell played well in a version of the spread last year too though.
Now hopefully this team is fun to watch again! Thanks Scott, Clark!!
and 3rd string offense
Herm is gone things are better with that one move!!
by bringbacktheglory on Aug 15, 2009 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions
How do you know that he's only good outta the spread?
C’mon. He’s never played in a pro-style offense that could execute around him! Never been able to settle in and actually work his progressions with ANY kind of time. Thrown to the wolves last year. Thrown to the wolves THIS year?
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
Is it me~ or~
Is Coach Haley just DYING to call some O plays? He bout to bust like a bubble from the WANTING to, I think~ or is it just me?
Ol' Kansan' Chief
I just hope this season
is not groundhog day all over again.
Now hopefully this team is fun to watch again! Thanks Scott, Clark!!
I would hope we can
get some pass plays of over 10 yards. As long as it is not the 3 yard wheel route to Chris Wilson I will be happy.
Now hopefully this team is fun to watch again! Thanks Scott, Clark!!
I hate to break it to you
but Cassel threw FIVE passes. And I think about 2 of them were receiver drops.
D-Bowe, Mark Bradley, Bobby Engram and Turtle. Four Chiefs WRers. 4 Pro Bowlers.
I was watching, but thanks for the news flash.
Now hopefully this team is fun to watch again! Thanks Scott, Clark!!
People arent acting like they were watching
they are freaking out. Cassel was fine. D Bowe had 5 catches for 70 yards. There is nothing you can judge about Cassel tonight.
D-Bowe, Mark Bradley, Bobby Engram and Turtle. Four Chiefs WRers. 4 Pro Bowlers.
by Patrick Allen on Aug 15, 2009 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Brodie actually looked more calm
and prepared in my eyes, yes it is early, but just my opinion.
Now hopefully this team is fun to watch again! Thanks Scott, Clark!!
WR'S = Bowe, Bradley, Toomer, Engram
I think Haley was just trying to evaluate other wr’s tonight..He knows bowe, bradley, toomer, and engram can do it because their is plenty of video of them performing well at the nfl level on actual sundays
by CALIFAN1986 on Aug 15, 2009 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions
I hope that is the case.
Just cannot survive another 2-14 season!:)
Now hopefully this team is fun to watch again! Thanks Scott, Clark!!
You CAN judge Cassel.
His on-target throws were dropped. Cassel looked good.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
3 drops I think wasn't it? Cassel didn't have the "quality" recievers out there I don't believe
Engram and Toomer never even got on the field, Bowe was on with the second squad, etc.
Yeah, let's just keep matriculatin' the ball down the field, boys! ...
by oldchiefsfan on Aug 15, 2009 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions
This is the problem...
Doom and gloom for the bad things
Everything is fine and dandy for the good things…
Cassel tossed 5 passes and two of them were dropped. Mind you he also had two awful receivers at his disposal. Also KC ran almost every snap he was in and they threw every other player Croyle and Thiggy played.
More concerned about
the penalty total and the turnovers than the QB play.
D-Bowe, Mark Bradley, Bobby Engram and Turtle. Four Chiefs WRers. 4 Pro Bowlers.
Yea, turn overs were not a good thing, but I expected the penalties in Pre Season play.
Yeah, let's just keep matriculatin' the ball down the field, boys! ...
by oldchiefsfan on Aug 15, 2009 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree
I thought all the QBs played pretty well. Cassell looked real good. If only the fucking WRs could catch the damn ball. Seriously, the way Cassell steps into his throws is awesome. His mechanics are out freakin standing and he seems to make the right reads. He needs to get the ball out quicker though.
by Chiefsfan1970 on Aug 15, 2009 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions
shizer
http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2009/8/15/990901/1st-preseason-game-observations
Herm Edwards: "There's FOUR quarters in football?!"
First Post game from Haley
Haley said he was playing Cassel “close to the vest” and ran it a lot. But thought Matt did just fine.
Yeah, let's just keep matriculatin' the ball down the field, boys! ...
I'm not
worried about a single thing. It’s the first preseason game. I know that there’s things you can judge from even preseason games, but I’m not going to zero in on anything yet. I’ll start making my opinions of players next week.
Same here, was great to see the Chiefs play again, it was great just to see them out on the field again.
Yeah, let's just keep matriculatin' the ball down the field, boys! ...
by oldchiefsfan on Aug 15, 2009 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Preseason always reminds me of the commercial from 2006 (I think?)
Where the raiders fans are at a barbeque after going 4-0 in the preseason.
Raider fan – Super bowl this year, no doubt.
I think our Offense will be fine this year
Haley wanted to check out certain players, and there not running any plays that are going to give teams an indication of how were going to play once the season starts.
by CALIFAN1986 on Aug 15, 2009 10:39 PM CDT reply actions
Penalties are the scary part.
Now hopefully this team is fun to watch again! Thanks Scott, Clark!!
True, plays were all vanilla for both D and O.
Probably the best thing out of all of this is proving to these guys what Haley and coaches were trying to teach them. Big difference between the practice field and playing in a NFL stadium. Good experience for the ones that have never done that before. Guarantee you the line up will be different next week against the Vikings.
Yeah, let's just keep matriculatin' the ball down the field, boys! ...
by oldchiefsfan on Aug 15, 2009 10:45 PM CDT up reply actions
I cannot wait until tomorrow morning
when I can finally watch what happened on NFLN. I just can’t have any real opinion until I see what in the hell happened.
We did not look real crisp, that is for sure.
( No sackable offenses in my opinion:) Oh wait two sacks!!!
Now hopefully this team is fun to watch again! Thanks Scott, Clark!!
Was there a turtle sighting?
Now hopefully this team is fun to watch again! Thanks Scott, Clark!!
I spotted him sitting next to Toomer, he was sort of drawn back in to his shell because of the rain.
They were discussing something about routes, Toomer was pointing to a laminated sheet and showing him something.
Yeah, let's just keep matriculatin' the ball down the field, boys! ...
by oldchiefsfan on Aug 15, 2009 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Did Darling catch any passes? Or was he invisible?
by CALIFAN1986 on Aug 15, 2009 10:57 PM CDT reply actions
Darling had one catch for 3 yds.
Yeah, let's just keep matriculatin' the ball down the field, boys! ...
by oldchiefsfan on Aug 15, 2009 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions
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