The Greatest Kansas City Chiefs, By the Numbers: #34
by Chris Thorman on Aug 13, 2009 7:29 AM CDT
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Wait just a second Dale. The homerun swing is Neil's.
Current #34 for the Kansas City Chiefs Londen Fryar, despite his legacy, can't top the pedigree of one of our greatest Chiefs candidates today.
- S Lloyd Burruss (1981-1991)
- CB Dale Carter (1992-98)
- RB Michael Cloud (1999-02)
- RB Wilbert Haslip (1979)
- KR Eddie Payton (1978)
IMO, Dale Carter runs away with this thing, despite his poor manners. I'm making a personal request to AP reader and commenter thehulk to relay his Dale Carter story. Let's hear thehulk. Just how bad did Dale Carter make you feel?
More on #34, after the jump...
S Lloyd Burruss (1981-1991)
via www.kcchiefs.com
Burruss had a long and productive career in Kansas City, punctuated by a a 5 INT/Pro Bowl season in 1986 when he also had three TDs. He also played a little kick returner when he came to the Chiefs in '81.
He started 103 out of the 145 games he played in and finished his career with 22 INTs. Very solid player.
Burruss is the only Chief to win the Mack Lee Hill award (for most outstanding rookie); team MVP (1985); and be inducted into the Kansas City Chiefs Hall of Fame (1999).
CB Dale Carter (1992-98)
There's a lot to say about Dale Carter. But I'm going mention the fact that Carter snubbed Arrowhead Pride reader thehulk TWICE in 6th grade for a lunch appearances at St. Peter's middle school in Kansas City. I mean, it was springtime. What the hell was he doing that he couldn't make a school lunch for a contest winner? Anyway, the Chiefs eventually had to send Joe Valerio which was pretty cool in its own right.
If we owned could have afforded Dale Carter jerseys, we would have burned them. Plus we had that whole 10-year old kid fascination with fire going on anyway. Let this be a lesson to you Chiefs players - Don't snub a middle-schooler on a contest lunch because his friend may end up writing about it on a popular Chiefs blog fifteen years later. For some reason, this seems time for a Boo-ya!
Okay, time to stop rambling...
Carter was drafted by the Kansas City Chiefs in 1992 out of Miss Arrowhead Pride's alma mater the University of Tennessee (Down here in Texas they get PISSED if you refer to the Tenn. school as UT). He won the NFL's defensive rookie of the year after posting seven INTs and one TD.
Carter played seven total seasons in KC, going to the Pro-Bowl four times (1994-1997). Through 1996, Carter also had quite a few punt and kick returns to add to his stats. He was an excellent corner on an excellent defense in the 1990s.
He know runs the Dale Carter Foundation, who's full time job is presumably to tell kids not to hang out with Tamarick Vanover.
RB Michael Cloud (1999-02)
Never attempting more than 49 rushing attempts in a season or 128 rushing in a season, Mike Cloud turned out to play below his second round potential. After coming out of Boston College in 1999, Cloud played for seasons for the Chiefs, gaining 381 yards rushing and four TDs.
Cloud went on to play for New England Patriots and New York for two years each, producing at a similar level for each.
RB Wilbert Haslip (1979)
Let's see...8th round pick out of Hawaii by the Chargers, five career NFL games (all with the Chiefs)... and two rushing attempts for his career. That's all on Willie Haslip. Dude is huge in Hawaii I bet.
KR Eddie Payton (1978)
Payton...where have I heard that name before.....
Eddie Payton is the older brother of NFL great Walter Payton. Eddie was pretty much a kick returner his entire career, playing for Detroit, Cleveland, Kansas City and Minnesota. He had 64 total returns for the Chiefs in '78 before heading to Minnesota to finish his career. He had no return TDs as a Chief.
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Alright, AP. Who is the greatest Chief to wear #34?
Read more about the Greatest Chiefs:
#1 - QB Warren Moon
#2 - P Dustin Colquitt
#3 - K Jan Stenerud
#4 - P Nick Murphy
#5 - P Louie Aguiar
#6 - RB Warren McVea
#7 - QB Ron Jaworski
#8 - K Nick Lowery
#9 - QB Bill Kenney
#10 - QB Trent Green
#11 - QB Elvis Grbac
#12 - QB Rich Gannon
#13 - QB Steve Bono
#14 - RB Ed Podolak
#16 - QB Len Dawson
#17 - QB Steve Deberg
#18 - CB Emmitt Thomas
#19 - QB Joe Montana
#20 - S Deron Cherry
#21 - S Jerome Woods
#22 - DB Willie Mitchell
#23 - RB Barry Word
#24 - CB Jayice Pearson
#25 - S Greg Wesley
#26 - S Gary Barbaro
#27 - RB Larry Johnson
#28 - RB Abner Haynes
#29 - CB Albert Lewis
#30 - RB Donnell Bennett
#31 - RB Priest Holmes
#32 - RB Marcus Allen
#33 - RB Stone Johnson
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Oh come one people
Carter was a good cornerback, but Burruss is in the Chiefs’ Hall of Fame…
Marley will be walking soon...she could probably play Linebacker better than some of the guys we had.
I think this one is going to come down to younger fans vs. older fans...
While I’m not that old…and I loved watching Carter, you gotta give props to Burruss. Like stag said, he was a very good player on some crappy teams. Burruss wins my vote by a nose.
Virtus In Arduo
"And the winner of the lunch with Chiefs player Dale Carter is.....TheHulk!!!"
So there I was, 4 grandparents bed-ridden in my little shack with my parents and I, my dad worked 2 jobs one of which was screwing the caps onto the tubes of toothpaste, my nickel-a-week paper route bought us the occasional loaf of bread to go along with our cabbage “soup” – cabbage water i must admit – and I had just offered to buy my gramps his tobacco from then on…when I found a dollar on the road. I spent it on a Wonka bar, or 4 tickets to our middle school raffle, which was promising pizza, an extra long lunch, and getting to sit with a Real Live Chiefs player!!! MAN was I excited!!
After a couple weeks of anticipation, the day was finally here. What could possibly make an 11 year old more excited than having pizza…um, and meeting a Chiefs player. Especially because our defense was pretty darn strong at the time, this was no small deal. Lunch time came…and went…and I don’t think I even ate anything at all because I was counting on the pizza that didn’t materialize when the Chiefs player didn’t either. Way to go Dale Carter!!
But let’s not dwell on the past. The present is that I still to this day own what is now a fairly faded, with frayed sleeves, Chiefs windbreaker/coat that is orange and yellow and sports a sharp-looking Joe Valerio signature right below the arrowhead logo on the front. To be quite honest, I was kind of underwhelmed when I was told – after the second cancellation – that Joe Valerio was the back-up Chiefs player coming. I didn’t know that he, for the next couple seasons, would be perhaps the greatest touchdown threat the chiefs would ever know. Tackle-eligible…block for a split second (I mean, when DIDN’T we rush it right up the middle in a goal-line situation back in the 90s)…and then sprint to the sideline to catch a nice easy pass for a TD. Oh yes. Joe Valerio. Touchdown Machine. That guy was the shit.
Anyway, I don’t think I’d equate Dale Carter with Nick-Slap Lowery, but I did think that was kind of a dick move. And yes, the Thormans don’t waste too many opportunities to remind me of how I was snubbed by a Chiefs player. Apparently they delight in the tear-filled eyes of young kids…
by thehulk on Aug 13, 2009 7:52 AM CDT reply actions 3 recs
Well said, my friend, well said
Now, don’t be shy. Let it all out. We’re friends here.
by Joel Thorman on Aug 13, 2009 7:58 AM CDT up reply actions
Just one more reason why it should be Burruss
=)
Marley will be walking soon...she could probably play Linebacker better than some of the guys we had.
Going Green
and how many of these type stories are in the AP Vault? Chris you need to open the Vault more often with your many years of Blog stories :)
Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying
by Steve_Chiefs on Aug 13, 2009 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Is this poll the most physically gifted?
Or the greatest to wear the Jersy #. Burrus should win this by a land slide. He was great on and off the field. Get your head’s out people. Sorry grouchy old man waarning.
David Logue
Burruss
Lloyd came in during some terrible years & left just before the defense started to dominate.
Well we were able to screw over Denver because of Carter :)
That worth a few votes right there.
Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying
Lloyd was the best
Great player, gave Fouts fits (say that 5 times fast). He was a big part of what was probably the best Chiefs secondary of all time, and one that could lay claim to be the best defensive backfield of any time ever. Outstanding in both coverage and run support. I believe he made Bert Jones decide to retire when he popped him in a game. Has to be the best SS the Chiefs have ever had.
Dale was good, but sporadic and was typically not even the best CB on the team. He would have scored much lower on the Haley consistency meter than either Lewis or Hasty. Tons of talent, but he burned out awfully early. I will say one thing I loved about Dale was he was quite willing and able to do run support, as opposed to watching Deion Sanders do Ole tackles. Dale was a very good hitter for a CB. I also remember when Marty played him at WR for a period and Dale pissed off opposing DBs by cutting their legs on running plays.
I prefer to look at a players total contribution – Burress clearly takes this one in my book. He deserves it though I know he’s no Jayice Pearson!! Or Lin Elliot!!
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