2009 Unofficial Depth Chart

by OCD-CHIEF on Aug 10, 2009 6:36 PM CDT

The unofficial depth chart is buried on page 16 of the Chiefs v. Texans press release. It says that it is a 2008 Depth Chart, but it is definitely this years roster.

OFFENSE

WR 10 Terrance Copper 13 Amani Toomer 82 Dwayne Bowe 9 Taurus Johnson 80 Jeff Webb

LT 76 Branden Albert 75 Herb Taylor 69 Cameron Goldberg

LG 54 Brian Waters 74 Wade Smith 66 Darryl Harris

C 64 Rudy Niswanger 73 Eric Ghiaciuc 60 Brian De La Puente

RG 79 Mike Goff 65 Tavares Washington 61 Colin Brown

RT 77 Damion McIntosh 67 Barry Richardson

TE 87 Brad Cottam 89 Sean Ryan 45 Jake O'Connell 41 Tom Crabtree

WR 81 Devard Darling 83 Mark Bradley 84 Bobby Engram 14 Quinten Lawrence 11 Rodney Wright

QB 7 Matt Cassel 12 Brodie Croyle 4 Tyler Thigpen 15 Matt Gutierrez

FB 42 Mike Cox 46 Jed Collins

RB 27 Larry Johnson 26 Jackie Battle 25 Jamaal Charles 29 Dantrell Savage

21 Kolby Smith 40 Javarris Williams

DEFENSE

LE 70 Alfonso Boone 94 Tyson Jackson 65 Bobby Greenwood 62 Dion Gales

NT 95 Ron Edwards 93 Tank Tyler 67 Derek Lokey

RE 72 Glenn Dorsey 92 Wallace Gilberry 71 Alex Magee

LOLB 91 Tamba Hali 90 Turk McBride 67 Pierre Walters

LILB 56 Derrick Johnson 52 Monty Beisel 53 Demorrio Williams 66 Corey Smith

RILB 55 Zach Thomas 51 Corey Mays 59 Jovan Belcher

ROLB 50 Mike Vrabel 96 Andy Studebaker 98 Vince Redd

LCB 39 Brandon Carr 30 Ricardo Colclough 34 Londen Fryar

RCB 24 Brandon Flowers 31 Maurice Leggett 23 Travis Daniels 20 Donald Washington

22 Jackie Bates

SS 49 Bernard Pollard 48 Mike Brown 38 DaJuan Morgan

FS 44 Jarrad Page 47 Jon McGraw 35 Ricky Price

SPECIALISTS

P 2 Dustin Colquitt

K 6Ryan Succop

KO 6 Ryan Succop

PC 43 Tanner Purdum 96 Andy Studebaker

KC 43 Tanner Purdum

H 2 Dustin Colquitt 4 Tyler Thigpen

PR 11 Rodney Wright 29 Dantrell Savage 14 Quinten Lawrence 31 Maurice Leggett

KR 25 Jamaal Charles 29 Dantrell Savage 14 Quinten Lawrence 11 Rodney Wright

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Bowe is 3rd string

Some serious tough love :(

Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying

by Steve_Chiefs on Aug 10, 2009 6:45 PM CDT reply actions

technically wouldn't he be 5th string when you consider the other WR spot?

And surely Thigpen is higher up than Croyle.

Desperately hoping for Desperate Measures

by averagegatsby on Aug 10, 2009 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions

Hi

Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying

by Steve_Chiefs on Aug 10, 2009 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions

Ummm.... What?

Desperately hoping for Desperate Measures

by averagegatsby on Aug 10, 2009 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions

I am Afraid :)

just saying Hi
You take me to strange places

Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying

by Steve_Chiefs on Aug 10, 2009 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions

afraid about what?

Desperately hoping for Desperate Measures

by averagegatsby on Aug 10, 2009 11:13 PM CDT up reply actions

Nice find and rec

Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying

by Steve_Chiefs on Aug 10, 2009 6:45 PM CDT reply actions

Ah tamba is on same side as Jackson

thus Sam backer

Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying

by Steve_Chiefs on Aug 10, 2009 6:51 PM CDT reply actions

Semi-surprising, but not totally so.

He had his best days at DE on the left side of the D. And while it’s an unpopular view, I’ve always thought that LBs do a better job on TEs by smackin’ ‘em in the mouth at the LOS, especially the current crop (Alge Crumpeler and Kevin Boss excepted) of lightweight WR wannabe’s, and even THOSE guys are slowed more by contact than by free release to post-up on a DB.

No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.

by hmills110 on Aug 10, 2009 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions

Copper?

Haven’t heard jack about him.

D-Bowe, Mark Bradley, Bobby Engram and Turtle. Four Chiefs WRers. 4 Pro Bowlers.

by Patrick Allen on Aug 10, 2009 7:09 PM CDT reply actions

The whole body though looks legit

Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying

by Steve_Chiefs on Aug 10, 2009 7:10 PM CDT up reply actions

Haley must be seriously pissed at D-Bowe

D-Bowe, Mark Bradley, Bobby Engram and Turtle. Four Chiefs WRers. 4 Pro Bowlers.

by Patrick Allen on Aug 10, 2009 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions

Just a message I think thus Copper #1

but the D backers seem inverted though lineups seem right

Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying

by Steve_Chiefs on Aug 10, 2009 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions

I don't think Haley has any interest in showing his hand.

Frankly, he can prob’ly learn more about his guys and give away less to future opponents by runnin’ his #2s against the Texans’ #1s. Keeping #1s versus #2s in doubt as long as possible might be win-win for ’im.

No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.

by hmills110 on Aug 10, 2009 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions

I don't think Haley would do that

Seems that a RESPECT for the game is what HC’s do.
Of Course Fischer ran a fake punt and then ran his punter out of the Field of play to seal win.

Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying

by Steve_Chiefs on Aug 10, 2009 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions

I don't see it as disrespectful, and I'm not even sure that's what's happening.

I’m just speculating. You don’t need to be a liar or even disingenuous to set people up to mislead themselves. Be interesting to see if Haley wants to win right away to change the mentality or if his goal is to win in regulation, and preseason be damned, if it doesn’t help him evaluate his players. I’m in the “preseason-be-damned” corner. Show as little as possible. Learn as much as possible.

No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.

by hmills110 on Aug 10, 2009 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions

Probably so as the preseason be damned mode

But the Chiefs have sucked and to change the mindset of the players
The Chiefs need to win, The season might end up “Damned” but the Chiefs need
some performance in the preseason. Did Detroit win all of their preseason games last year?

Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying

by Steve_Chiefs on Aug 10, 2009 9:44 PM CDT up reply actions

I don't think we necessarilly need to win the games

but we definitely need to play well, gell together as a team, find our Special teamers, and see where our weaknesses are. That is a lot. Although, it would feel good to win the first one!

by TheQ on Aug 10, 2009 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions

Haley mentioned the "win versus evaluate" in preseason conundrum.

Nothing definitive, because the need to establish a winning attitude and winning expectations, but he leaned toward evaluation.

No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.

by hmills110 on Aug 12, 2009 5:03 AM CDT up reply actions

Good point

but I would question the logic of not taking advantage of valuable game reps by having Cassel throw to Bowe. Maybe he will only be out a ceremonial snap or two and then come in the game?

by TheQ on Aug 10, 2009 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions

Also

where the hell is Herb Taylor?

D-Bowe, Mark Bradley, Bobby Engram and Turtle. Four Chiefs WRers. 4 Pro Bowlers.

by Patrick Allen on Aug 10, 2009 7:12 PM CDT reply actions

backup LT

Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying

by Steve_Chiefs on Aug 10, 2009 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions

the O-line looks right as for the Texans game

Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying

by Steve_Chiefs on Aug 10, 2009 7:14 PM CDT reply actions

are the backers inverted compared to training camp positions?

I actually like this line up better though

Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying

by Steve_Chiefs on Aug 10, 2009 7:15 PM CDT reply actions

They seem to be, Steve.

Something to be said for your take. Putting the vets on the weak side frees them up, more. But it could just be an accidentally-on-purpose miscue, sowing confusion in the opposition. Oops! Sorry about that! (wink) Didn’t mean to give you guys the wrong idea. (nudge)

No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.

by hmills110 on Aug 10, 2009 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs

Rec

Wink Nudge :)

Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying

by Steve_Chiefs on Aug 10, 2009 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions

Ahhhhh Soooooo

You make sense.

by TheQ on Aug 10, 2009 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions

Other then the O-Line and LBsthe rest of this seems pretty random...

"Success is never ending, failure is never final."

by GenericBrand on Aug 10, 2009 7:31 PM CDT reply actions

No Quinten Lawrence?

No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.

by hmills110 on Aug 10, 2009 7:43 PM CDT reply actions

3rd string returner

Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying

by Steve_Chiefs on Aug 10, 2009 7:46 PM CDT up reply actions

Silly question

Tanner Purdum’s name popped out at me, after hearing about his screw up this morning. It got me thinking about something that I’ve always wondered:

Why in the world can’t the regular C also be the LS?? Is it just that the technique is so much different? Why does it require an extra roster spot? You don’t use someone to exclusively be the holder for FGs! Help me here.

TOUCHDOWN! KAN-SAH-CITY!!!

by TheScootness on Aug 10, 2009 7:59 PM CDT reply actions

In my experience playing football

Long Snapper is every bit as important to a special teams unit as it’s kicker. It’s no surprise that even at the NFL level solid long snappers are hard to come by, there’s a lot of technique and guts that goes into it. And a long snapper can be anyone from a former linebacker to fullback to the traditional center. Hell Jared Allen entered the league as a long snapper and he’s a DE

Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.

by 808NaNz808 on Aug 10, 2009 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions

It's kind of a unique talent.

Sometimes a center can do it, sometimes its a guard(I think Waters can?), sometimes its a D lineman or a LB.

"Success is never ending, failure is never final."

by GenericBrand on Aug 10, 2009 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions

Here’s a pretty good article on long snappers. Strange that it features J.P Darche and Kendall Gammon (both former Chiefs). I remember reading an article about how concerned with Gammon coming back Morten Anderson was, which says a lot.

by JComp11 on Aug 10, 2009 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions

The o-line looks right

I know none of this is “official” but how is Javarris Williams behind Kolby Smith, who hasn’t even practiced yet.

I think this is the old Parcells trick of messing with the depth chart. I swear if they do that this year they’re going to drive AP’s game coverage off a cliff!!

Arrowhead Pride

by Joel Thorman on Aug 10, 2009 8:05 PM CDT reply actions

Yea theres quite a few like that...

Gilberry ahead of Mcgee. Battle ahead of Charles. And the Glaring Copper ahead of everyone.

"Success is never ending, failure is never final."

by GenericBrand on Aug 10, 2009 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions

So Haley magic

or I don’t care?
Did you find any other Official Chiefs depth chart
as I don’t check the mothership because their site is gawdawfull to date?

Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying

by Steve_Chiefs on Aug 10, 2009 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions

Parcells and Belichik were known for screwing with depth charts

and it’s no surprise Haley is following the same trend. Tom Brady has been on the “questionable” list every week since he got the starting gig in New England..

This is going to suck for Chiefs fans because we already have so many unfamiliar faces on the team as it is.

Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.

by 808NaNz808 on Aug 10, 2009 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions

So are the LB's inverted?

Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying

by Steve_Chiefs on Aug 10, 2009 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions

Yea I just noticed that too...

Isnt Hali and Vrabel opposite? I noticed it in that Madden demo too they had Hali playing on Jacksons side and Vrabel on Dorseys.

"Success is never ending, failure is never final."

by GenericBrand on Aug 10, 2009 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions

No, Joel.

What drives fans like me crazy are the dramatic camera angles that provide little useful information and keep me from seeing who’s actually where on the field in the moment. Even with pause-and-rewind, getting the numbers of the players straight is problematical. And those “starting lineups” they always do at the beginning of games usually bear only slight resemblance to what I end up seeing on the field.

No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.

by hmills110 on Aug 10, 2009 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions

This shows you what I know. :)

by TheQ on Aug 10, 2009 9:07 PM CDT reply actions

You know a lot :)

But Haley might be playing games or our onfield reporters haven’t captured the line-up yet.
Even Tank Tyler says that the D behind our front three is Chaos. I agree till Saturday night :)

Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying

by Steve_Chiefs on Aug 10, 2009 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions

True that.

I actually think we have most positions pretty pegged unless they add another player not already on the roster (like Toomer), so it is just the more competitive position groups that might throw us a curve, especially in the depth positions. I am still not sure how many of “their” players will make the roster and push out a more experience player. Such as Jake O’Connell or Corey Mays pushing out Turk McBride. Not likely, but you never now. Somebody is not going to make the 53 that we thought should, and somebodies will make it that we didn’t think would.

I think…Ha.

by TheQ on Aug 10, 2009 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions

Pioli will upgrade 53-man roster all season long

Once the 53 man roster is set and possibly even before then, you’ll see some new additions to the team. I think you’ll see the bottom 5 of our roster being fluid. I’d say Haley and Pioli will head into the season with 48 guys they really like and the rest will be filler or potential options for a trade if there are injuries.

LS, KR/PR, RT, C, TE and NT are my biggest concerns going into the season. I’m hoping i’m proved wrong in at least 2 of those positions listed.

by cameltoeuchdowns on Aug 11, 2009 12:52 AM CDT reply actions

Center and Tight end are probably okay

Niswanger and Ryan will serve the Haley purpose IMO
Edwards and Tank will fill the NT position this year
Right tackle needs addressing before 1st regular game and we might see something there.
Agree on constant upgrading of roster :)

Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying

by Steve_Chiefs on Aug 11, 2009 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions

There were a couple things when I looked at this depth chart I too went "what?"

And then when a couple people on here that are smarter than me figured out that this is probably subterfuge I went to myself “that’s smart!” It actually got me pumped up a bit for Haley to be thinking this smart.

by Primussux on Aug 12, 2009 12:03 AM CDT reply actions