Chiefs Training Camp Update 8/10 AM
Updated: 1:26 PM
The Chiefs have concluded practice number one of two today. The second practice is tenatively scheduled for 4:30 this afternoon.
The highlight from today was the wide receivers having to catch the ball in traffic. From reports, this was the most crowd pleasing part of the day as some of the lighter receivers, Bobby Engram and Quinten Lawrence, were de-cleated.
We've got Mr. Looney and Mr. Gretz's updates in. We'll let you know when we update it with the UW-RF updates.
General stuff
- Weather: 76 degrees, 64% humidity, partly cloudy (National Weather Service)
- AM practice was in shells
- Kent Babb of the KC Star thinks Todd Haley might be "merciless" on the team the next couple days since it's game week (kb_kcstar)
- Practice consisted of individual drills, special teams drills and then situational drils (Josh Looney at the Mothership)
- Bernard Radke made the drive to Chiefs camp from Moberly, Mo., to meet up with some of his college buddies. “A few of us like to take a week off, get away from the everyday hustle and bustle of work and family, and come up here to drink beer and watch football,” Radke said. “We love it!” (UW-RF)
Offense
- WRs are working on catching the ball in traffic. They had a few nice catches but also dropped some balls with the safeties coming down on them. Coach Dedric Ward is hitting them with a bag as they cross the middle and even de-cleated a few of them (Josh Looney at the Mothership)
- Bobby Engram and Quinten Lawrence had the most trouble hanging onto the ball during the catch-in-traffic drills (Gretz at CBS)
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Quarterback Matt Cassel had a rough start to the teams 11-on-11 situational drill. Cassel’s first three passes were all incomplete. One of which hit the ground without a receiver in the area. His only completion came on a third-and-eight for a first down. Cassel was 1-4. (UW-RF)
- In a situation with only a few seconds to go in the game on the offense leading, all Tyler Thigpen had to do was throw the ball away. He didn't. Haley said: “Tyler, how can you screw that up? All you have to do is throw it high and out of bounds!” (UW-RF)
- Mark Bradley screwed up on a Hook and Ladder play. Haley said, “The Kansas City Chiefs just lost the game cause Mark Bradley didn’t know where he was suppose to be. You have to explain that to your teammates!” (UW-RF)
Defense
- The entire defense did bag work with Coach Krumrie. Usually this is just a d-line drill (Looney at Twitter)
- Brandon Flowers was also asked about what his diet has been like during camp. “I’m definitely watching what I’m eating this year. Last year I really didn’t pay attention to it, but now I’m watching my diet and making sure I eat healthy and I already see it paying off.” (UW-RF)
Special teams
- Main focus of AM practice was special teams. The team worked in individual groups. (Josh Looney at the Mothership)
- Kicker Ryan Succop was catching punt snaps today during the team’s special teams sessions. Succop didn’t actually punt any balls, but was lined up as the punter. Succop has 85 career collegiate punts. (UW-RF)
Injuries
- LB Monty Beisel and LB Zach Thomas did not practice (Josh Looney at the Mothership)
- LB Mike Vrabel was back in action (Josh Looney at the Mothership)
- LB Demorrio Williams and S DaJuan Morgan did not practice (Gretz at CBS)
- RBs Kolby Smith and Jamaal Charles and G Tavares Washington and G Wade Smith did not practice (Gretz at CBS)
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Demorrio Williams and Dajuan Morgan need to start practicing
Or else they aren’t going to make the roster
I think Demorrio is better off then Morgan
Just because we’re not that strong at LB.
by Joel Thorman on Aug 10, 2009 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Though I will say this
I think Morgan’s strength is special teams play (didn’t someone call him a “torpedo”?) and Haley has reiterated the point that there will likely be someone who makes the roster solely as a special teams guy (not counting the K, LS, and P).
Marley will be walking soon...she could probably play Linebacker better than some of the guys we had.
by PVChiefsfan on Aug 10, 2009 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Correction
Morgans strength is SUPPOSED to be special teams play. But he showed absolutely nothing on special teams last year.
Our boy!
rookie FA alert: Haley praises special teams abilities of LBs Pierre Walters and Jovan Belcher
Belcher has been making noise all week...
I think Walters might be the man out even if he is a special teams ace because Belcher has now been making a good impression at both positions and Mays is a beast on ST and can play ILB. There might not be enough room for another “special teams only” LB.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Aug 10, 2009 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions
I want to see the catch-in-traffic drills
I bet that’s entertaining as hell watching a coach swing that bag at them.
Morgan, Charles, Thomas
Does anyone know what is wrong with these guys?! I’m really getting worried about Thomas, but to make things worse, now Charles is out too? We need him for sure this season. Also, I don’t think Morgan has practiced at all yet, so what’s going on there, and why is he still on the roster?
-Robbie
Ya I dont get this either...
If Morgan hasnt been physically able to practice yet and what he’s dealing with is so bad then why isnt he on the PUP list?
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Aug 10, 2009 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions
There was a post the other day that mentioned
Tyson Jackson knocking the hell out of Charles. I wonder if his absence has anything to do with that. If so, I can’t wait to see what the predator does to McFailure, Moreno, and Sproles.
For justice we must go to Don Pioli
Not good...
Haley: “Today was a lot less coaching to see what they know, and there was a handful of them, it was clear to me, they had not studied.”
High praise for Mays...
Replacing Thomas so thats good news too.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
hahaha
Head Coach Todd Haley had a few words for Thigpen; "Tyler, how can you screw that up? All you have to do is throw it high and out of bounds!"
Predictions.
1. Tank Tyler will end up surprising everyone and be the anchor of our line.
"...Said he couldn't go on the American way"
Nice to see Vrabel being as advertised
From UWRF:
Haley commented on linebacker Mike Vrabel’s passion for the special teams. Vrabel entered the league as a core special teamer, so Haley said "special teams is close to his heart." "I think he’s into it," Haley said about the 13-year veteran, "and I like guys that are into it and passionate about it." Haley said when Vrabel’s not on the field, "something’s missing." "He’s a great communicator. He’s a smart football player that understands those situations I was talking about. He’s the guy who’s helping coach everybody on the field," Haley said. "We need more guys thinking and acting that way."
Chiefs go 9-7. LJ makes 1400 yards. DBowe makes 1200 yards. Defense #18.
I know its early
but is anyone else kind of getting really excited about our defense?
D-Bowe, Mark Bradley, Bobby Engram and Turtle. Four Chiefs WRers. 4 Pro Bowlers.
I'm trying not to
I was excited about our defense going into some of our recent seasons only to be disappointed greatly. I am trying to manage my expectations this season, especially from the defense.
For justice we must go to Don Pioli
eh screw managing expectations
it’s the offseason. I am going to dream damn it! Cause once there is evidence that the D isn’t going to be great I won’t be able to fool myself anymore.
D-Bowe, Mark Bradley, Bobby Engram and Turtle. Four Chiefs WRers. 4 Pro Bowlers.
by Patrick Allen on Aug 10, 2009 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Love to see guys putting in the work
From Gretz:
– Offensive coordinator Chan Gailey and QB Matt Cassel had a long one-on-one conversation at the end of practice, and then they gathered up Lawrence and went back on the field and worked on several passing plays. Bradley eventually joined the group as well.
Chiefs go 9-7. LJ makes 1400 yards. DBowe makes 1200 yards. Defense #18.
sweet
D-Bowe, Mark Bradley, Bobby Engram and Turtle. Four Chiefs WRers. 4 Pro Bowlers.
by Patrick Allen on Aug 10, 2009 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions
I like reading Bradley's name
starting to see more of it popping up in these reports
by KansasCityShuffle on Aug 10, 2009 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions
90's defense coming back?
All the reports thus far in training camp have been talking about how great the defense is coming along. Can our D make a complete 180 from the horrible embarassment that was the last few seasons?
It sounds like the offense is still struggling a bit, with the QB’s, WR’s, and RB’s all making several mistakes. I just hope with only a few weeks left until the regular season starts, they can start to develop a good rhythm on offense.
D is always ahead of the O at this point
OR at least that is how it tends to be however..
the secondary is tough and deep, the linebackers are so incredibly improved its not even funny, watching pat thomas last night was enough validation as the punter made him look pretty bad. Mays is an upgrade, Thomas/Vrabel are upgrades, Beisel is underrated and an upgrade…the DL is very deep, Ron Edwards is even a great option as backup nose tackle to Tank
The D is deep, talented, and young. I dont care what those “experts” say…our old LB’s have 1 year deals…
The offense however may be a problem. The line is decent, thats fine, but the recievers are horrible, even playing madden you can notice the speed issue at reciever, trying to get charles/lawrence to make big plays since toomer/engram arent speedsters.
I stay in the mindset that if LJ runs well which he should with charles/williams taking some carries, maybe the playaction offense can come back…Just a bit scary that the O is getting demolished every practice…
If the line is really decent, the offense will be fine...
We will be a run first team and the passing game should be complimentary. We have enough offensive weapons to have a solid offense this year…As long as the line plays well.
I think its good......
for the offense to go through what they are going through. Right now its the grind, they are getting beat, they are making mistakes, and the coaches are all over em. Thats what training camp is all about. Hopefully by preseason game 3 something starts to click and they start landing some punches back on this D…which in turn pushes it to be better.
I look at this D and get excited…I think they will hover around the top third of the league…..and while I am worried about the offense, I really think that they are going to come through. If offensive players crush under the pressure of the coaches coming down on them how can they handle it when the game is on the line in the playoffs. I truly believe that the coaches and management is building for the super bowl, so if people can’t cut it in the system they will be replaced.
If Cassel turns out to be real deal and our receivers grow from this pressure and intense scrutiny they are under right now…I can see the offense doing well.
Something I noticed
in the update from UWRF blog.
“Quarterback Matt Cassel had a rough start to the teams 11-on-11 situational drill. Cassel’s first three passes were all incomplete. One of which hit the ground without a receiver in the area. His only completion came on a third-and-eight for a first down. Cassel was 1-4.”
Last year, 1 of 2 things would have happened. Either an incomplete, a run stuffed, or a miraculous 1st down made by a scrambling Thigpen.
I like that he kept his composure and moved the chains. Signs of patience and staying focused.

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