Chiefs Training Camp Update: 8/1 P.M.
Updated: 9:02 PM
And that's two practices down for the Kansas City Chiefs at their 2009 training camp. Tomorrow's practice is from 2-4 P.M.
We've got the info for you grouped by offense, defense, special teams, injuries and general stuff. I think this may be the way we'll organize this info from now on. Let us know what you think about the format.
We're still waiting on the UW-RF updates and I will drop them in when they post. (They're in there now)
A couple of injuries, an LJ quote and some big plays by Brandon Flowers after the jump...
General Stuff
- Previous years called for a helmets-only practice following all full-padded morning session. This afternoon’s shell practice is yet another example of the "new Chiefs." Coach Haley will likely follow up a full-padded day with helmets-only at some point, but this is a great way to get started on day one. (The Mothership)
- Speaking of the grandstands…I’ve spotted a few Zach Thomas jerseys (Miami edition) and our first homemade sign of camp, "#39 B. Carr lockdown corner." (The Mothership)
Offense
- In a 7-on-7 Chiefs passing drill, Matt Cassel was 7 of 9 with an INT, Brodie Croyle was 3 of 9 with an INT and Tyler Thigpen was 5 of 6.(CBSSports.com Rapid Reports)
- In a 7-on-7 Chiefs passing drill, Matt Cassel was 7 of 9 with an INT, Brodie Croyle was 3 of 9 with an INT and Tyler Thigpen was 5 of 6. (CBSSports.com Rapid Reports)
- "I’m going to hit them like a bullet with some speed and not a tank," Johnson said. "I really feel good and I do feel faster." (BobGretz.com)
- Chiefs RBs struggled in a pass-protection drill trying to block blitzing LBs. (CBSSports.com Rapid Reports)
- Wide receiver Dwayne Bowe had the first dropped ball of the day in an 11-0 drill. It turned out to be a trend for the remainder of practice. (UW-RF)
- Tight end Brad Cottam had two drops in a row when running routes against air about 20 minutes later. Rookie wide receiver Quinten Lawerence had a drop in one-on-one drills. Wide receiver Mark Bradley had a drop in the 7-on-7 drills. (UW-RF)
- Head Coach Todd Haley got on quarterback Brodie Croyle during the 7-on-7 pass skelly when Croyle was too slow getting his unit to the line. “Offense! Let’s go. Quicker! That is too slow, Brodie!” (UW-RF)
Defense
- In a Chiefs 7-on-7 passing drill, ILB Monty Beisel picked off a throw by QB Brodie Croyle. (CBSSports.com Rapid Reports)
- CB Brandon Flowers made two big plays in Chiefs team work, blitzing the QB for a sack and knocking down a pass to WR Dwayne Bowe. (CBSSports.com Rapid Reports)
- Another new drill for this camp, mainly working with interior DL/NT. Three OL vs. 1 DL/NT. Great practice shedding double teams. Some sturdy men going to war in the trenches. The GM made sure to stop by and take note. (The Mothership)
- During a drill involving both offensive and defensive linemen, center Eric Ghiaciuc pushed defensive tackle Tank Tyler over. The crowd, including both offensive and defensive players, let out some “oooh’s” after the play. (UW-RF)
- Linebacker Monty Biesel was running the drill from the middle spot. Biesel was hollering and pointing in several directions, encouraging and leading his team. (UW-RF)
- When Defensive Line Coach Tim Krumrie grew annoyed with how long Gilberry was taking, adjusting his brace, Krumrie asked, “Got the braces on? Come on, man. Let’s get those (freaking) things on.” (UW-RF)
- During 11-on-11, players seeing time with the first-string base defense included: defensive ends Alfonso Boone and rookie Alex Magee, defensive tackle Tank Tyler, linebackers Tamba Hali, Mike Vrabel, Monty Beisel, and Zach Thomas, cornerbacks Brandon Flowers and Brandon Carr and safeties Jarrad Page and Bernard Pollard. Replacing Thomas in the first-string nickel defense was cornerback Maurice Leggett, playing the nickelback spot. (UW-RF)
Special Teams
- As the Chiefs worked on their punting game, WRs Rodney Wright and Quinten Lawrence handled returns. Neither has returned a punt in a regular or pre-season game. (CBSSports.com Rapid Reports)
- During a kick off drill, safeties Jon McGraw and Bernard Pollard and cornerback Ricardo Colclough spent time as first-string. (UW-RF)
Injuries
- Chiefs G Darryl Harris limped off the field, and trainers worked on his right leg. (CBSSports.com Rapid Reports)
- LB Derrick Johnson isn’t working this afternoon, he’s riding a bike and lifting with some of the players being held out today. Johnson began practice this AM with the team, but later went to the sidelines. G Edwin Harrison also left the AM practice session early and is not participating this afternoon. (The Mothership)
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I'm finally getting a good feeling about Tank.
I think he’s going to be a good NT especially with Pioli watching his every move. How badass is it going to be if we end up with a legit NT named Tank Tyler
Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.
Absolutely
Now if we can only get the same warm fuzzy from his roomie Turk. I would love to see them both do well this year.
To bad he gets pushed over by a backup center.
During a drill involving both offensive and defensive linemen, center Eric Ghiaciuc pushed defensive tackle Tank Tyler over. The crowd, including both offensive and defensive players, let out some "oooh’s" after the play.
A center
That has been starting in the NFL for 3 years. I’m not sure Ghiacuc is as bad as a lot of Cincy fans think. If he was that bad I don’t think they would have signed him on.
Chiefs go 9-7. LJ makes 1400 yards. DBowe makes 1200 yards. Defense #18.
Croyle....
Croyle is facing seven defenders and still only went 3 for 9 with an INT…lol. Total and complete failure
He is probably a bit rusty
since he missed OTAs rehabbing his knee. Don’t be surprised if he is in the conversation in a couple of weeks. He was clearly ahead of Thigpen last training camp, and I wouldn’t be surprised to see him at least make a run for the #2 QB spot. To have this much competition at QB is awesome.
good one made me lol
oh wait you weren’t kidding?
Herm is gone things are better with that one move!!
by bringbacktheglory on Aug 1, 2009 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Not at all
Keep in mind that I am judging Croyle on his talent, not his “breakability” factor.
But I knew that would be a controversial remark!
by TheQ on Aug 1, 2009 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
What!
Controversy at QB Rec or unrec? Hmmmmm
Ryan Succop will Kick Two clutch kicks that will directly affect Said game.
Rule 49. " Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram
Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying
LOL @ Breakability
I’m with you — we always knew the dude had some talent. I just wish that my grandma didn’t take a hit better than him…
You are what your record says you are!
In an odd way
I would rather have Brodie as the starter with a solid backup, then to have Brodie as the backup. If Brodie is the backup and we lose the starter for more than 2 weeks, we will be down to third string. If Brodie is the starter, we will be using our backup by week 3, but at least we would still be on a second string guy.
Which is really just an overly complicated way of saying that I don’t want to see him in games.
by LarryDoggyDog on Aug 1, 2009 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions
7 on 7's are tough stuff
The coach puts you under a lot of pressure to get rid of the ball as soon as you finish your drop back which is hardly ever the case. But it’s a good drill to create a quick release. The 7 on 7 drill is in the favor of the defense because the whole defense knows your passing and the offense is only sending 4 to 6 guys out against all 7.
Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.
Another Gretz comment
Chiefs WR Dwayne Bowe says the addition of veteran WR Bobby Engram has been a big help to him. “That’s my roommate, and I’m learning from him every day,” said Bowe. “He’s taught me things about watching tape, catching the ball, how to practice, how to prepare.”
This is some of the most important stuff that can happen in camp. The old guys showing the young guys the tricks of the trade. Engram has been a very good receiver, and this is what Haley was talking about when they signed him.
Chiefs go 9-7. LJ makes 1400 yards. DBowe makes 1200 yards. Defense #18.
From the mothership
WR Dwayne Bowe made a nice catch on a hook route during a 3rd-and-10 situation. These are catches he’ll need to make when we start the real thing.
This needs to be a big year for Dbowe. hope we just hear stuff like this until mid Feb.
Chiefs go 9-7. LJ makes 1400 yards. DBowe makes 1200 yards. Defense #18.
It is interesting to know who are roomed together
So Engram and Bowe
Tyler and McBride
more
Ryan Succop will Kick Two clutch kicks that will directly affect Said game.
Rule 49. " Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram
Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying
Time for Tank & Turk to Step-up
There’s another DT Tank in the league that prefers more modern weaponry. I’m hoping that our Tank doesn’t go down that path. I really like the way these guys are developing this year. Hearing lots of good things these days!
You are what your record says you are!
from ealier comments
It sounds like maybe Turk is looking better than Tamba so far at ROLB. He’s a pretty athletic big guy. Be nice if we could have two guys step up and play well there.
Chiefs go 9-7. LJ makes 1400 yards. DBowe makes 1200 yards. Defense #18.
And another receiver
From the mothership
TE Brad Cottam got loose on a scrape outside, produced some solid YAC and made a nice finish with some noisy contact paired with S Bernard Pollard.
Good to hear that he is making some kind of showing.
Chiefs go 9-7. LJ makes 1400 yards. DBowe makes 1200 yards. Defense #18.
RBs had hard time picking up blitzing LBs?
1. Carthon wont be happy.
2. Pass Rush anyone?
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
And the competition fro return man is on
From Looney:
As stated during the PM observations, three players took some reps at punt returner – WR Bobby Engram, WR Rodney Wright and WR Quinten Lawrence. Five more players joined those list by taking extra reps as return men after practice – CB Maurice Leggett, CB Jackie Bates, RB Dantrell Savage, CB Londen Fryar and WR Taurus Johnson.
Who wants to make the team? This is a really open spot that will be interesting to watch.
Chiefs go 9-7. LJ makes 1400 yards. DBowe makes 1200 yards. Defense #18.
Leggett??? Interesting.
I like Leggett. Everything I’ve seen and heard about him has been good.
I kinda like the idea of him doing kickoffs. He definitely has the speed.
When asked about the pressure of continuing to produce at a high level, especially with the departure of all-pro tight end Tony Gonzales, Bowe replied, "Nah…I don’t call it pressure. I call it fun!"
From the UWRF Chiefs Site. Be sure to click through and give it a read.
There's some pretty good vids at the mothership
Just click on the home and you get some vids. Good one with Holtus from today.
Chiefs go 9-7. LJ makes 1400 yards. DBowe makes 1200 yards. Defense #18.
All of you are awesome :)
Ryan Succop will Kick Two clutch kicks that will directly affect Said game.
Rule 49. " Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram
Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying
During a drill involving both offensive and defensive linemen, center Eric Ghiaciuc pushed defensive tackle Tank Tyler over. The crowd, including both offensive and defensive players, let out some "oooh’s" after the play. Ghiaciuc offered to help Tyler up, but Tyler declined the hand and sprinted back to complete the drill. The offfensive line was looking strong again when tackle Cameron Goldberg knocked linebacker Tamba Hali over pretty handedly. Hali got back up and continued to battle toward the "quarterback."
Lots more like this at UWRF’s site.
I count 4 expletives deleted so far
all from Krumrie. That’s got to be down from last year since we don’t have Gun. =)
by NJ Chiefs Fan on Aug 1, 2009 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Sic em, Haley!
Running back Jamaal Charles coughed up the first fumble of training camp during 11-on-11. This seemed to make Head Coach Todd Haley irate. Haley made the entire team take a jog. When they returned from their jog, Haley said, "We don’t go through the motions! If you want to go through the motions you’ll be (freaking) 2-14 again!" to some defensive players as they jogged by.
I could get more sacks with my sack
Zach Thomas is a badass
The running backs and linebackers got together and did some one-on-one blitz pickup blocking. Linebacker Zach Thomas got the defense off to a good start. Thomas landed a huge hit on running back Mike Cox, picking him up and throwing him down like it was nothing. The defense appeared to completely dominate the drill.
From UWRF
Chiefs go 9-7. LJ makes 1400 yards. DBowe makes 1200 yards. Defense #18.
This is great!
And the format is nearly perfect.
I've been rapping for about seveteen years okay? I don't write my stuff anymore I just kick it from my head you know what I'm sayin? I can do that. No disrespect but that's how I am.

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